New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin

Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.

Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?

ZeroWolf wrote:Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?

I dunno, I wasn't part of that conversation.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.

But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.

But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.

Because, at the time, Hasbro and Paramount kept referring to the satellite mode as Soundwave's altmode.

The following is an early concept design for his robot mode, which Soundwave would have transformed into after scanning a black Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck in an early draft, and which Hasbro used as a basis for designing the ROTF satellite toy's robot mode after the plans for Chevy altmode were scrapped.

Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.

ZeroWolf wrote:Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?

In the movie, while in “satellite mode” Soundwave’s head was much more sleek and longer with a faceplate and a sort of visor (this can be seen on the alt mode of the old deluxe) while presumably in robot mode his head was pretty much just DotM Soundwave’s head (also seen on the old toy in robot mode). This new SS opts for lazily just using the standard Soundwave Robot head rather than having it become screen accurate for the alt mode, which is no real surprise given the alt mode in general for this figure is pretty terrible in my opinion.

Pretty disappointed that Soundwave lost the lathered up silver paint he was covered in. With such a weak alt mode, while also missing Ravage, that was one of the main things going for him.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.

But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.

There was concept art for Soundwave’s robot mode in ROTF, which the toys and video game model (ROTF era) are based on. In the movie itself, though, we only see the Satellite mode. It’s a case similar to DOTM Shockwave, where we don’t see another mode in the movie itself so Hasbro came up with something.

The shrouded vs unshrouded head thing is about the ROTF deluxe, which had 2 heads: one for satellite mode (which is meant to resemble the head we see Soundwave with on-screen in ROTF, though it is different from the final film version), and a separate one for robot mode that’s based on the concept art. Since the SS figure is just based on what we saw on-screen, with a new robot mode specifically for this figure, it uses the same head in both modes.

Honestly, the included stand with that orbit backdrop is really neat looking - I’m thinking I might pick this one up, I’ll have to look at some reference pics to see what I could do with paint.

"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?

Soundwave looks quite terrible imo. The original is a more interesting design, at least looks closer to the movie in terms of how "busy" it is, and has FAR better pain. This looks like a random TLK Soundwave.

Cliffjumper on the other hand looks awesome and a lot of fun.

jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.

The toy was revealed several months ago and a few have pointed it out since.

And thanks guys for clarifying the deal with Soundwave and his satelite mode.

I might be speculating a bit too much, as there have been some figures with unique backgrounds (like Blackout or Clunker Bumblebee), but the way Earth is positioned in Soundwave's background reminds me of that scene in the first movie where the Autobots are falling into earth's atmosphere. Does this mean we might get the protoforms?



As for Soundwave himself, I like his headsculpt and torso / main satellite body way more than the ones on the original figure, but his limbs / panels seem worse than the original ones. I'll probably remain on the fence until there's some reviews out, but I'm not hating it as much as some do. Definitely looks better than in the renders, although Hasbro's renders are very bad so that's not surprising.

MCutter wrote:
"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?

Yup, Definitely.

jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.

Wait, what?
*compares the stock images*
Wow! I missed that, any any other comments on it. It looks like they removed the front wheels from the shoulders for a couple of the stock photos.
I do hope the drivers-side door tabs-in better on this remold.

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

MCutter wrote:
"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?

Yup, Definitely.

And in that graveling Dr Claw voice too!

MCutter wrote:

jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.

Wait, what?
*compares the stock images*
Wow! I missed that, any any other comments on it. It looks like they removed the front wheels from the shoulders for a couple of the stock photos.
I do hope the drivers-side door tabs-in better on this remold.

Yeah, interesting. I don't know that I've ever seen them remove untransforming parts of a figure for display pictures like that. Definitely helped hide its remold effect.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.

He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.

But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.

There was concept art for Soundwave’s robot mode in ROTF, which the toys and video game model (ROTF era) are based on. In the movie itself, though, we only see the Satellite mode. It’s a case similar to DOTM Shockwave, where we don’t see another mode in the movie itself so Hasbro came up with something.

The shrouded vs unshrouded head thing is about the ROTF deluxe, which had 2 heads: one for satellite mode (which is meant to resemble the head we see Soundwave with on-screen in ROTF, though it is different from the final film version), and a separate one for robot mode that’s based on the concept art. Since the SS figure is just based on what we saw on-screen, with a new robot mode specifically for this figure, it uses the same head in both modes.

This is the shrouded version:

According to TFwiki that's the finalized head design.
Which is blatantly untrue, because there are severals shots where the head is unshrouded as per the toys' robot modes (although on a double-check the ROTF toy's real head isn't accurate after all ):


In fact, I'm feeling like a bit of an idiot now at least re: the head (the SS toy's satellite mode as a whole is still dodgy and he still seems too small). And also mad at TFwiki. Because I'm struggling to find any instance of his head being armor-shrouded head and minus the G1-esque crests in the movie. It does have a long backwards protrusion, but I have yet to find a single shot of it looking as it does in the render (which the TFwiki page is insisting is the "finalized head design").

If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.

Apologies to everyone for getting worked up over the head aspect..

Not sure if all Targets are doing this but I got Jet Mode Shatter for only 10$

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.

Apologies to everyone for getting worked up over the head aspect..

Don't apologize, this whole thing confused me too. And there is no shot in the film where his head looks different, it's just the soundwave bot mode head which is what lead me to think we were seeing him in his robot mode all along.

Man, Soundwave's legs look super weird. Not really a fan of that.

Topspin is also weirdly lacking yellow paint in robot mode. He needs some to break up the blue and gray like his old toy.

I would love some weird General Grievous Overload repaint, that would be so wacky and cool

This ROTF Soundwave talk makes me feel like sharing these concept arts for Soundwave just to see just how many different ideas there were for him.







Josh even seemed to revisit the design back when the Decepticon protoform designs for DOTM were being concepted.

I would have loved the silverado alt mode. That would have been really sweet

“The ship? We were never in the ship. We designed the damn thing, didn’t we?”

Just got Roadbuster today, and he’s pretty cool! I still think the HA is the best representation of the design, but this one pulls off both modes (particularly vehicle mode) really well.

I won’t be able to fully paint him for a while since I don’t have green paint and I’m busy working on Sentinel, but I did go over a lot of the parts with gunmetal real quick earlier. I also borrowed some guns from DOTM Topspin to help arm him up!



Speaking of Topspin, these two look really good together in vehicle mode!


Glad to have another Autobot in the ranks, now bring on SS Topspin and Leadfoot! And Dino . . . and Que. . .

Given the apparent willingness to change the altmodes when lack of licensing forces their hands, we may actually get Dino after all. Unless Ferrari decide to be Animated Sentinel Prime-tier jerks.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.

Just point me in the direction and I'll fix what's wrong.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.

Just point me in the direction and I'll fix what's wrong.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Soundwave_(ROTF)

Just to be sure it's clear.
The article claims that the armored, crestless head in the render at the top is the finalized head design, when this form of the head is the only one that actually appears in the ROTF movie. I have double-checked.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.

Just point me in the direction and I'll fix what's wrong.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Soundwave_(ROTF)

Just to be sure it's clear.
The article claims that the armored, crestless head in the render at the top is the finalized head design, when this form of the head is the only one that actually appears in the ROTF movie. I have double-checked.

Just made an edit. Did I get the right text changed?

There's still faulty info about the armored head in the entry for the SS ROTF toy and in the trivia section

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There's still faulty info about the armored head in the entry for the SS ROTF toy and in the trivia section

Edited the trivia part. I don't see the other line, though.

I look at this, and I like it overall... I am pick and choose when it comes to SS series.

The more I look at it I think to myself that this is what movie Starscream should've been...Then again I prefer the Bumblebee models so much more than the Bayverse models.

That's just me.

Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to a tip off from fellow Seibertron user, -WonkoTheSane-, we've learned that Takara Tomy Mall has updated their listings for two forthcoming Studio Series toys! Those toys being SS 53 Deluxe Class Bumblebee Movie Cliffjumper and SS 54 Leader Class Revenge of the Fallen Overload.
Check out the new pictures below:

SS 53 Cliffjumper









SS 54 Overload











As you can see, with these pictures, we get a good look at Overload's place within the beast that is Studio Series Devastator.

Are you planning on picking these up? Are you one of the lucky few that already have Overload? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Looks like Cliffjumper is a retool of the Offroad Bumblebee.

Is Overload's number correct? Megatron is SS-54. Or is it different for Japan?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Overload's number correct? Megatron is SS-54. Or is it different for Japan?

It's different in Japan as I don't think they counted exclusives like SS Thundercracker

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Overload's number correct? Megatron is SS-54. Or is it different for Japan?

It's different in Japan as I don't think they counted exclusives like SS Thundercracker

TakaraTomy didn't release exclusives outside of Retro Rock Garage, VW Bumblebee from the Then and Now set, and Drift with the Baby Dinobots; all were numbered SS-EX.

The numbering for the upcoming Hasbro releases are:

#62: Soundwave
#63: Autobot Topspin
#64: Cliffjumper
#65: Blitzwing
#66: Constructicon Overload

Note: I use "#" to separate Hasbro numbering from the "SS-##" TakaraTomy one.

I watched a youtube video that speculated that the Studio Series Line is going to expand to figures based on Transformers the Movie... Specifically mentioning Grimlock (with a Wheelie). I know lots of people hate G1, but is there any truth to this, or even substantiated rumor about this?

It's not so much hate as just absolutely tired of everything having to be G1, when there's other 6 main generations to explore. On their own, I love the G1 designs. In context, I despise that everything has to be about those designs all the time, specially in the last 8 years or so. G1 already has the WFC Line, and has had the Prime trilogy before that, and that's not counting the Classics/Universe reinterpretations of G1 that came even earlier than that. So some of us are pretty miffed that what seemed to be a little corner away from G1 is getting G1-ified too.

But yes, a Studio Series listing was leaked with the name "Leader '86 Grimlock and Wheelie", and a "Deluxe '86 Gnaw"

Rtron wrote:It's not so much hate as just absolutely tired of everything having to be G1, when there's other 6 main generations to explore. On their own, I love the G1 designs. In context, I despise that everything has to be about those designs all the time, specially in the last 8 years or so. G1 already has the WFC Line, and has had the Prime trilogy before that, and that's not counting the Classics/Universe reinterpretations of G1 that came even earlier than that. So some of us are pretty miffed that what seemed to be a little corner away from G1 is getting G1-ified too.

Some of us have been miffed about that since Bungledbee.

Rtron wrote:But yes, a Studio Series listing was leaked with the name "Leader '86 Grimlock and Wheelie", and a "Deluxe '86 Gnaw"

Hopefully the packaging will be branded to set them apart as a subline...

How well has Studio Series been shifting, compared to the lingering SIEGE figures and the Earthrise figures they're tripping up the distribution of?

Sowndwave76 wrote:I watched a youtube video that speculated that the Studio Series Line is going to expand to figures based on Transformers the Movie... Specifically mentioning Grimlock (with a Wheelie). I know lots of people hate G1, but is there any truth to this, or even substantiated rumor about this?

From pages 329 to 335. The entire discussion from start to end.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:How well has Studio Series been shifting, compared to the lingering SIEGE figures and the Earthrise figures they're tripping up the distribution of?

Studio Series is selling pretty well by me (Chicago area), with the exception of helicopter Dropkick who still lingers at a few stores, but even those stores are stocking new waves around them. They are even selling enough that I have found earlier releases that must have been stuck in a warehouse and passed over until recently, which tells me the warehouse is emptying out enough that the older cases are being pushed through.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:How well has Studio Series been shifting, compared to the lingering SIEGE figures and the Earthrise figures they're tripping up the distribution of?

Studio Series is selling pretty well by me (Chicago area), with the exception of helicopter Dropkick who still lingers at a few stores, but even those stores are stocking new waves around them. They are even selling enough that I have found earlier releases that must have been stuck in a warehouse and passed over until recently, which tells me the warehouse is emptying out enough that the older cases are being pushed through.

I had a feeling. I'm suspecting these figures are being put in Studio Series to make use of the available shelf space.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:How well has Studio Series been shifting, compared to the lingering SIEGE figures and the Earthrise figures they're tripping up the distribution of?

Studio Series is selling pretty well by me (Chicago area), with the exception of helicopter Dropkick who still lingers at a few stores, but even those stores are stocking new waves around them. They are even selling enough that I have found earlier releases that must have been stuck in a warehouse and passed over until recently, which tells me the warehouse is emptying out enough that the older cases are being pushed through.

I had a feeling. I'm suspecting these figures are being put in Studio Series to make use of the available shelf space.

Probably also to pad out the Studio Series line somewhat, keep it from getting to the end of doable movieverse characters too quickly.

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, -WonkoTheSane-, has let us know that Takara Tomy's official twitter feed has just released two new photos of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series voyager, Skipjack! Skipjack is a yellow redeco of Rampage who was one of the first constructicons released in the Studio Series line. He retains full combining ability, meaning that when he is released, you can give your Studio Series Devastator a yellow leg if you wished. Or alternatively, you can leave Rampage combined and have Skipjack on his own.

One of the photos released has Skipjack and Rampage side by side to show you the differences.





Will you be picking up Skipjack to go along with the other Studio Series Constructicons? Do you want him just on his own? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

ZeroWolf wrote:you can give your Studio Series Devastator a yellow arm of you wished.

Psst, yellow leg not arm

I think I’ll be picking up Skipjack, I like that it breaks up the red more on Devastator (although I kind of wish I had gotten Rampage to recreate his fight with Bee in ROTF).

Aside from the color, is there anything different about skipjack?

Rodimus Knight wrote:Aside from the color, is there anything different about skipjack?

No, color is it. But the color is important, since the bulldozer who's part of Devy in the movie was yellow.

Ideally, Rampage would have been a separate mold (or at least a heavy retool) that didn't combine (and thus, didn't make the sacrifices necessary for the combined mode).

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:you can give your Studio Series Devastator a yellow arm of you wished.

Psst, yellow leg not arm

D'oh! Argh, thanks for pointing it out I've edited the news story.