New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist
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We have some more stock images for the first batch of Earthrise figures. These are not renders and thus give us the best idea of what these toys will look like in hand, or on the shelves. We have images of voyagers Grapple and Starscream (who is based on the classics deluxe). We also have an extra image for deluxe Hoist and leader Optimus Prime, which look similar to the images used in Takara catalogues for suppliers. The images were found on Autobase Aichi's Twitter. We also added the previously reported in box images.
These should be out soon within the new year. There is of course the final wave of Siege to see on shelves first. All of these Earthrise figures have been available on preorder at a myriad of places online like BBTS, TFSource, Entertainment Earth and Amazon, just to name a few. And the prices are the same per size class as they were in Siege.
Credit(s): autobase aichi
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Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044005)
Posted by haldand on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:46am CST
Posted by haldand on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:46am CST
Might have to actually buy 'another' Optimus Prime. I've tried to stop re-buying versions of characters I already have on display, and I was very happy with the PotP one, but this one is tempting…
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044007)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:55am CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:55am CST
Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044008)
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:57am CST
On some episodes, Grapple's head was yellow. Guess they picked one, but they seem to be leaning 'cartoon' with this line.
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 8:57am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
On some episodes, Grapple's head was yellow. Guess they picked one, but they seem to be leaning 'cartoon' with this line.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044009)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
Don’t bother. He’s a troll who jumps between sites throwing fits about the same stuff and leaves. He’s not here to have conversations. Just stir pots
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
sol magnus wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
On some episodes, Grapple's head was yellow. Guess they picked one, but they seem to be leaning 'cartoon' with this line.
Don’t bother. He’s a troll who jumps between sites throwing fits about the same stuff and leaves. He’s not here to have conversations. Just stir pots
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044010)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:04am CST
You, uh, doing okay over there? Do you want to talk about it? I used to argue with Hasbro subsidiaries too, but not since I changed my anti-depressant.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:04am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
You, uh, doing okay over there? Do you want to talk about it? I used to argue with Hasbro subsidiaries too, but not since I changed my anti-depressant.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044011)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:12am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:12am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
You, uh, doing okay over there? Do you want to talk about it? I used to argue with Hasbro subsidiaries too, but not since I changed my anti-depressant.
Randomhero wrote:Don’t bother. He’s a troll who jumps between sites throwing fits about the same stuff and leaves. He’s not here to have conversations. Just stir pots
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044012)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:15am CST
To be fair he has a point, transformers is borrowing effects parts and the build a figure ideas from the marvel legends figures so hopefully they will include multiple heads at some point.
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:15am CST
Randomhero wrote:sol magnus wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
On some episodes, Grapple's head was yellow. Guess they picked one, but they seem to be leaning 'cartoon' with this line.
Don’t bother. He’s a troll who jumps between sites throwing fits about the same stuff and leaves. He’s not here to have conversations. Just stir pots
To be fair he has a point, transformers is borrowing effects parts and the build a figure ideas from the marvel legends figures so hopefully they will include multiple heads at some point.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044013)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:17am CST
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:17am CST
Still, I'll apply my advice more generally: if you find you're irrationally angry about minor toy issues, you may have clinical depression. Talk to your doctor and see if not being a jerk on the internet is right for you.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044015)
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:18am CST
Completely different costs and engineering. They only have that they are toys in common.
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:18am CST
blackeyedprime wrote:Randomhero wrote:sol magnus wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Too damn lazy to paint Grapple's head black eh Hasbro? That's okay! I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I'll just OVER PAY you & do your job for you.
Oh I get it! You're constantly pandering to the cartoon accuracy jerks as usual. You're just too damn cheap & lazy to include 2 heads? You can include multiple heads with Marvel Legends all the time but not with Transformers? You just can't include a cartoon accurate head + a toy accurate head? You're never ever going to make a Wheeljack figure with a toy accurate head for me? Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Now why don't you go raise the prices again. Isn't it about time we start paying $29.99 for deluxe class? JERKS!!!
On some episodes, Grapple's head was yellow. Guess they picked one, but they seem to be leaning 'cartoon' with this line.
Don’t bother. He’s a troll who jumps between sites throwing fits about the same stuff and leaves. He’s not here to have conversations. Just stir pots
To be fair he has a point, transformers is borrowing effects parts and the build a figure ideas from the marvel legends figures so hopefully they will include multiple heads at some point.
Completely different costs and engineering. They only have that they are toys in common.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044016)
Posted by Keelan on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:20am CST
Posted by Keelan on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:20am CST
Grapple and the new Prime are looking good and I will probably picking them up. I also had the old classics Starscream so i might pick up this new one.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044018)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:23am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:23am CST
Buyers are going to have to be careful on figure swapped returns for starscreams.
Grapples arms with the hollow/hands faced upwards in vehicle mode is a bit urk, hoping the potential inferno does it differently or that that it works with the arms rotated. I'll probably end up picking one up to display in vehicle mode next to the MP with the classics figure being my main toy bot.
Grapples arms with the hollow/hands faced upwards in vehicle mode is a bit urk, hoping the potential inferno does it differently or that that it works with the arms rotated. I'll probably end up picking one up to display in vehicle mode next to the MP with the classics figure being my main toy bot.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044023)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:42am CST
He does or claims to. On tfw2005 all throughout September and October anytime something about generations is shown or announced he goes on the stupid tangents about being disabled and it’s hasbro and the governments fault he can’t afford toys and lashes out on hasbro and everything for it to a point where threads have been purged.
Again he’s not here to have conversations, not here to be part of a community or any community. Just throw fits, blame whoever he feels like, leaves, waits for another site to post the same news and say the same stuff and leave because he’s a nut job and gets off on it.
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:42am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:Still, I'll apply my advice more generally: if you find you're irrationally angry about minor toy issues, you may have clinical depression. Talk to your doctor and see if not being a jerk on the internet is right for you.
He does or claims to. On tfw2005 all throughout September and October anytime something about generations is shown or announced he goes on the stupid tangents about being disabled and it’s hasbro and the governments fault he can’t afford toys and lashes out on hasbro and everything for it to a point where threads have been purged.
Again he’s not here to have conversations, not here to be part of a community or any community. Just throw fits, blame whoever he feels like, leaves, waits for another site to post the same news and say the same stuff and leave because he’s a nut job and gets off on it.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044024)
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:44am CST
LOL. Wow.
Posted by sol magnus on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:44am CST
Randomhero wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Still, I'll apply my advice more generally: if you find you're irrationally angry about minor toy issues, you may have clinical depression. Talk to your doctor and see if not being a jerk on the internet is right for you.
He does or claims to. On tfw2005 all throughout September and October anytime something about generations is shown or announced he goes on the stupid tangents about being disabled and it’s hasbro and the governments fault he can’t afford toys and lashes out on hasbro and everything for it to a point where threads have been purged.
LOL. Wow.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044026)
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:46am CST
Not even joking and it’s happened on here too. He’s notorious and is blocked by many.
Posted by Randomhero on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:46am CST
sol magnus wrote:Randomhero wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Still, I'll apply my advice more generally: if you find you're irrationally angry about minor toy issues, you may have clinical depression. Talk to your doctor and see if not being a jerk on the internet is right for you.
He does or claims to. On tfw2005 all throughout September and October anytime something about generations is shown or announced he goes on the stupid tangents about being disabled and it’s hasbro and the governments fault he can’t afford toys and lashes out on hasbro and everything for it to a point where threads have been purged.
LOL. Wow.
Not even joking and it’s happened on here too. He’s notorious and is blocked by many.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044027)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:48am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:48am CST
Dengeki Hobby has even more pics of Hoist, Optimus, Soundbarrier and Grapple:
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/875026/
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/875051/
Interestingly, it says that Grapple and Soundbarrier are going to be TakaraTomy Mall exclusives in Japan instead of mass retail figures (like how they will be in Hasbro's version of the line).
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/875026/
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/875051/
Interestingly, it says that Grapple and Soundbarrier are going to be TakaraTomy Mall exclusives in Japan instead of mass retail figures (like how they will be in Hasbro's version of the line).
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044031)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:18am CST
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:18am CST
I may have to replace my RTS Grapple with this one. The flaws were his open hands which you could not give him a decent weapon. Hasbro SHOULD have armed him just as they did with Earthrise version.
The great thing about RTS vs Earthrise Grapple is that he didn't look like his G1 mold much like this new mold. I'm just sayin'...'nuff said!
The great thing about RTS vs Earthrise Grapple is that he didn't look like his G1 mold much like this new mold. I'm just sayin'...'nuff said!
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044033)
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:22am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:22am CST
We have Takara's stock images for the first batch of Earthrise figures. These are not renders and thus give us a good idea of what these toys will look like in hand, or on the shelves. We have images of voyager Grapple, leader Optimus Prime, deluxe Hoist and Soundbarrier (who turns into a shield or a ramp). We also have images of how they interact together with Optimus wearing Sound Barrier as a shield, Grapple picking up Soundbarrier and Hoist attaching to the bases. In Japan, it seems Grapple and Soundbarrier will be exclusives since they are designated by and EX instead of an ER in their name. The release date for these in Japan is the last day of April 2020. These images come from Dengeki Hobby.
The identical Hasbro releases should be out soon within the new year. There is of course the final wave of Siege to see on shelves first. All of these Earthrise figures have been available on preorder at a myriad of places online like BBTS, TFSource, Entertainment Earth and Amazon, just to name a few. And the prices are the same per size class as they were in Siege.
The identical Hasbro releases should be out soon within the new year. There is of course the final wave of Siege to see on shelves first. All of these Earthrise figures have been available on preorder at a myriad of places online like BBTS, TFSource, Entertainment Earth and Amazon, just to name a few. And the prices are the same per size class as they were in Siege.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044034)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:47am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:47am CST
Interesting. Tying them into the Micromasters, it almost looks like the specific bots are being selected for this line to suit a practical narrative.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044036)
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:53am CST
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:53am CST
This line really looks quite engaging, and the updated G1 styling looks great. I wish I had room to display interconnected bases and such.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044039)
Posted by -Crossfire- on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
Posted by -Crossfire- on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
I think Soundbarrier (and the inevitable retools of him) is so lazy. Like, he doesn't even transform INTO the shield, he just... wears it on his back. It's like a shellformer, only there's nothing to actually hide the fact that there's a robot underneath.
Still gonna get it, but geez Hastak, get your act together.
Still gonna get it, but geez Hastak, get your act together.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044040)
Posted by Brass Drag0n on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:58am CST
Posted by Brass Drag0n on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:58am CST
Oh dear, that's a bit unfortunate - poor Grapple, I guess it was cold the days those pics were taken. 
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044042)
Posted by Dannshinigami on November 7th, 2019 @ 12:14pm CST
Posted by Dannshinigami on November 7th, 2019 @ 12:14pm CST
The random pic of Hoist with a silver faceplate is odd.
Soundbarrier looks awesome, pending the inevitable con repaint with purple clear plastic which will be a must buy.
Cant wait to see some con baseformers. The lack of weaponizers needs to be addressed on the con side.
Soundbarrier looks awesome, pending the inevitable con repaint with purple clear plastic which will be a must buy.
Cant wait to see some con baseformers. The lack of weaponizers needs to be addressed on the con side.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044043)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 12:15pm CST
I'm right there with you. It isn't like the other weapon battlemasters had amazing transformations or anything, but at least there is a little more than "fold the ramp in 1/2".
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 12:15pm CST
-Crossfire- wrote:I think Soundbarrier (and the inevitable retools of him) is so lazy. Like, he doesn't even transform INTO the shield, he just... wears it on his back. It's like a shellformer, only there's nothing to actually hide the fact that there's a robot underneath.
Still gonna get it, but geez Hastak, get your act together.
I'm right there with you. It isn't like the other weapon battlemasters had amazing transformations or anything, but at least there is a little more than "fold the ramp in 1/2".
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044049)
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CST
I dont think its a silver faceplate but rather the light being reflected from both angled surfaces that make up his faceplate. I am selling a few of my TFs and when I post the pics I take, I realize that this effect happens sometimes.
I agree as well. I noticed it when newsing, there is really not much to the transformation. And it's not a great looking shield.
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CST
Dannshinigami wrote:The random pic of Hoist with a silver faceplate is odd.
I dont think its a silver faceplate but rather the light being reflected from both angled surfaces that make up his faceplate. I am selling a few of my TFs and when I post the pics I take, I realize that this effect happens sometimes.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:-Crossfire- wrote:I think Soundbarrier (and the inevitable retools of him) is so lazy. Like, he doesn't even transform INTO the shield, he just... wears it on his back. It's like a shellformer, only there's nothing to actually hide the fact that there's a robot underneath.
I'm right there with you. It isn't like the other weapon battlemasters had amazing transformations or anything, but at least there is a little more than "fold the ramp in 1/2".
I agree as well. I noticed it when newsing, there is really not much to the transformation. And it's not a great looking shield.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044050)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 7th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 7th, 2019 @ 1:33pm CST
I still find it so weird that Hoist stills has battle damage paint apps, but no one else in the line does. Definitely looking forward to Grapple though. And oddly, I kind of want a Hot Spot version despite there not being any reason for that to exist...
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044054)
Posted by -Crossfire- on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:09pm CST
That's the thing though, they don't need to have a great transformation, they just need to have A transformation. This is basically just Nap-Mode.
(Alright, I'll stop. :p)
Posted by -Crossfire- on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:09pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:-Crossfire- wrote:I think Soundbarrier (and the inevitable retools of him) is so lazy. Like, he doesn't even transform INTO the shield, he just... wears it on his back. It's like a shellformer, only there's nothing to actually hide the fact that there's a robot underneath.
Still gonna get it, but geez Hastak, get your act together.
I'm right there with you. It isn't like the other weapon battlemasters had amazing transformations or anything, but at least there is a little more than "fold the ramp in 1/2".
That's the thing though, they don't need to have a great transformation, they just need to have A transformation. This is basically just Nap-Mode.
(Alright, I'll stop. :p)
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044055)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
It looks like it is only around what ends up as the front of the truck hood, and a little on the top of the front fenders. That's not battle damage, its bug guts.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I still find it so weird that Hoist stills has battle damage paint apps, but no one else in the line does.
It looks like it is only around what ends up as the front of the truck hood, and a little on the top of the front fenders. That's not battle damage, its bug guts.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044057)
Posted by Whirlkick on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:16pm CST
Posted by Whirlkick on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:16pm CST
Oof that second picture of Grapple. Damn son.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044058)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CST
A few things to note from these pics. First off, Grapple now seems to have yellow eyes (or perhaps they're just painted over in the same white as the rest of the face? It's hard to tell, honestly).
More importantly, this Optimus Prime is a complete mess. We're back to the look with the gray hands, yellow eyes, and unpainted cod piece. That means we should be seeing the version of the trailer with no blue plastic, because the hands are allegedly gang molded to the trailer parts. However, the trailer has the blue plastic parts like it did in the initial Hasbro renders, meaning the hands on Prime should be blue, but they're not! Furthermore, it looks like the bicep pieces are gang molded to the trailer too. They're ALSO blue on the robot mode! They've shown up as gray in all other stock photography and renders before. Did Takara mix and match different test shots of the figure for their stock photos? That still wouldn't explain the blue biceps and gray hands, though. Both should be one color plastic or the other.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
A few things to note from these pics. First off, Grapple now seems to have yellow eyes (or perhaps they're just painted over in the same white as the rest of the face? It's hard to tell, honestly).
More importantly, this Optimus Prime is a complete mess. We're back to the look with the gray hands, yellow eyes, and unpainted cod piece. That means we should be seeing the version of the trailer with no blue plastic, because the hands are allegedly gang molded to the trailer parts. However, the trailer has the blue plastic parts like it did in the initial Hasbro renders, meaning the hands on Prime should be blue, but they're not! Furthermore, it looks like the bicep pieces are gang molded to the trailer too. They're ALSO blue on the robot mode! They've shown up as gray in all other stock photography and renders before. Did Takara mix and match different test shots of the figure for their stock photos? That still wouldn't explain the blue biceps and gray hands, though. Both should be one color plastic or the other.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044059)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CST
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 7th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CST
The play feature for Earthrise is ramps.
The alternate mode of Battle Masters is ramps.
There's ... not a whole lot they could do. If you split the ramp parts up into smaller panels, you're certainly going to weaken the connection points that allow you to combine different ramps together, or even affect the tolerances within a single ramp when weight is applied.
I mean, yeah, it's lazy, but it's effective. Most Battle Masters are just parts packs, and I want functioning parts. If Soundbarrier worked better as a robot toy but didn't work well as a ramp, that would be a net failure.
The alternate mode of Battle Masters is ramps.
There's ... not a whole lot they could do. If you split the ramp parts up into smaller panels, you're certainly going to weaken the connection points that allow you to combine different ramps together, or even affect the tolerances within a single ramp when weight is applied.
I mean, yeah, it's lazy, but it's effective. Most Battle Masters are just parts packs, and I want functioning parts. If Soundbarrier worked better as a robot toy but didn't work well as a ramp, that would be a net failure.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044064)
Posted by Goombatron on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CST
Posted by Goombatron on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CST
I'm not really excited about EarthRise. I'm just getting bored with the same characters over and over.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044065)
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:08pm CST
When I read that first line I was sure you would also bring up the fact that he has a 5 mm trailer port that doesnt hide away in robot mode.
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:08pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:More importantly, this Optimus Prime is a complete mess. We're back to the look with the gray hands, yellow eyes, and unpainted cod piece. That means we should be seeing the version of the trailer with no blue plastic, because the hands are allegedly gang molded to the trailer parts. However, the trailer has the blue plastic parts like it did in the initial Hasbro renders, meaning the hands on Prime should be blue, but they're not! Furthermore, it looks like the bicep pieces are gang molded to the trailer too. They're ALSO blue on the robot mode! They've shown up as gray in all other stock photography and renders before. Did Takara mix and match different test shots of the figure for their stock photos? That still wouldn't explain the blue biceps and gray hands, though. Both should be one color plastic or the other.
When I read that first line I was sure you would also bring up the fact that he has a 5 mm trailer port that doesnt hide away in robot mode.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044066)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:20pm CST
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:20pm CST
These new Takara shots of Optimus heavily confuse matters. Not jusr the lack of the added blue paint apps, but also blue plastic instead of dark grey for the inner shoulder, bicep, wheel-on-back-hinge-piece, etc. Hopefully it turns out to be like the previous couple examples of all-over-the-place decos and plastic colors between different shows and sets of stock photos for some figures, and the end product turns out more like the leaked photos from a couple days ago.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044067)
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CST
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CST
Much like Siege, this is the perfect example of how one can have line-wide gimmicks which collectors can choose to ignore and thus won't endlessly complain about it 'ruining' a good toy, like with Titans Return mandatory headmasters. Mind you I like Headmasters but I know plenty of angry grognards who were mad at characters being turned into headmasters.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044070)
Posted by joevill on November 7th, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
Posted by joevill on November 7th, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
Wow looks pretty fun!!
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044077)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CST
Holy crap! How did THAT happen? All of the other pics we've seen show a much different assembly, with 2/3 of the hexagonal 5mm hole on the right leg and 1/3 on the left, creating a bit more symmetry and not making it look like some weird growth is sticking out of the right leg. That's the Hasbro renders, the NYCC at show pics, and the recently leaked pics with the new paint apps all follow this "split" design. Where did this Takara stock photo come from!? Nothing about it makes sense!
Also if they had kept the trailer parts blue and preserved the correct color of the inner calves of the robot mode, that split hexagonal port would be even less obvious. They could have avoided so many issues with this mold (gray hands, gray back of head, etc.) if they had just realized no one would be upset about blue parts on the trailer, since it's supposed to have some blue parts anyway, and they didn't interfere with the look of the alternate mode at all. Or, some smarter parts distribution among the molds might have helped too. Yeah, I know, "budgets and sizes and logistic and blah blah blah," but it's Optimus Prime, for goodness sake! Bend a few rules to get him right! It's not like he won't sell out!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:More importantly, this Optimus Prime is a complete mess. We're back to the look with the gray hands, yellow eyes, and unpainted cod piece. That means we should be seeing the version of the trailer with no blue plastic, because the hands are allegedly gang molded to the trailer parts. However, the trailer has the blue plastic parts like it did in the initial Hasbro renders, meaning the hands on Prime should be blue, but they're not! Furthermore, it looks like the bicep pieces are gang molded to the trailer too. They're ALSO blue on the robot mode! They've shown up as gray in all other stock photography and renders before. Did Takara mix and match different test shots of the figure for their stock photos? That still wouldn't explain the blue biceps and gray hands, though. Both should be one color plastic or the other.
When I read that first line I was sure you would also bring up the fact that he has a 5 mm trailer port that doesnt hide away in robot mode.
Holy crap! How did THAT happen? All of the other pics we've seen show a much different assembly, with 2/3 of the hexagonal 5mm hole on the right leg and 1/3 on the left, creating a bit more symmetry and not making it look like some weird growth is sticking out of the right leg. That's the Hasbro renders, the NYCC at show pics, and the recently leaked pics with the new paint apps all follow this "split" design. Where did this Takara stock photo come from!? Nothing about it makes sense!
Also if they had kept the trailer parts blue and preserved the correct color of the inner calves of the robot mode, that split hexagonal port would be even less obvious. They could have avoided so many issues with this mold (gray hands, gray back of head, etc.) if they had just realized no one would be upset about blue parts on the trailer, since it's supposed to have some blue parts anyway, and they didn't interfere with the look of the alternate mode at all. Or, some smarter parts distribution among the molds might have helped too. Yeah, I know, "budgets and sizes and logistic and blah blah blah," but it's Optimus Prime, for goodness sake! Bend a few rules to get him right! It's not like he won't sell out!
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044082)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CST
Yikes, Prime does not look good from the back.
The weird torso proportions in that photo look like when girls try to photoshop themselves a thigh gap.
Also, the wheels and small hexagonal flight stand port give Prime a very surprised looking "butt-face". I can't unsee it now.
The weird torso proportions in that photo look like when girls try to photoshop themselves a thigh gap.
Also, the wheels and small hexagonal flight stand port give Prime a very surprised looking "butt-face". I can't unsee it now.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044084)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:25pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:25pm CST
I agree on the Soundbarrier front. That is a lazy figure. If you want to see a good shield figure, look at TR Lione. that figure pulled off a lion and a fantastic shield mode, he is the definition of a good shield-former
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044089)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:49pm CST
He's as much a shield as Soundwave's cassettes are, and simply repurposed from a different, primary function: a ramp. In that aspect, I don't really see how else it could be done other than making him a flat, and above all fragile mess.
As for Prime's 5mm trailer hitch, that may be a last-minute design change. Non-solid or split peg holes usually have problems holding things in, just ask anyone with a PotP Sludge, Slug or Rippersnapper.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2019 @ 6:49pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I agree on the Soundbarrier front. That is a lazy figure. If you want to see a good shield figure, look at TR Lione. that figure pulled off a lion and a fantastic shield mode, he is the definition of a good shield-former
He's as much a shield as Soundwave's cassettes are, and simply repurposed from a different, primary function: a ramp. In that aspect, I don't really see how else it could be done other than making him a flat, and above all fragile mess.
As for Prime's 5mm trailer hitch, that may be a last-minute design change. Non-solid or split peg holes usually have problems holding things in, just ask anyone with a PotP Sludge, Slug or Rippersnapper.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044090)
Posted by toycave_studios on November 7th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
Posted by toycave_studios on November 7th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
If this is how Prime is going to look... I'm either going to pass, or have someone professionally repaint it for me. This is ridiculous.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044100)
Posted by Microbot on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:58pm CST
Posted by Microbot on November 7th, 2019 @ 9:58pm CST
Now I'm confused...Optimus how will look like at the end??? I assume was with blue hands and eyes...but now.....oh boy.... 
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044103)
Posted by Rainmaker on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:48pm CST
Posted by Rainmaker on November 7th, 2019 @ 10:48pm CST
Man, Earthrise Prime's back look great compared to what we usually get!
Also Soundbarrier is just fine as he is to me.
Also Soundbarrier is just fine as he is to me.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044105)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:09pm CST
There seems to be some sort of hiccup between the color charts and assigning parts to plastic colors/molds, that may be related to the change in design of the hitch. The hands seem to be gang-molded with the hitch and/or the elbows, they've all changed between blue and grey in different types of stock images and the sample at NYCC.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:09pm CST
Microbot wrote:Now I'm confused...Optimus how will look like at the end??? I assume was with blue hands and eyes...but now.....oh boy....
There seems to be some sort of hiccup between the color charts and assigning parts to plastic colors/molds, that may be related to the change in design of the hitch. The hands seem to be gang-molded with the hitch and/or the elbows, they've all changed between blue and grey in different types of stock images and the sample at NYCC.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044107)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:33pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:33pm CST
where the hell is roller 
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044108)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:34pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2019 @ 11:34pm CST
Never a part of this Optimus toy to begin with.Ultra Markus wrote:where the hell is roller
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044110)
Posted by Emerje on November 8th, 2019 @ 12:52am CST
Here's to hoping for a Micromaster sometime down the road. The size should work fine with the trailer's more compact size.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on November 8th, 2019 @ 12:52am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Never a part of this Optimus toy to begin with.Ultra Markus wrote:where the hell is roller
Here's to hoping for a Micromaster sometime down the road. The size should work fine with the trailer's more compact size.
Emerje
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044113)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 8th, 2019 @ 2:39am CST
Only problem would be who he came with given that Micromasters are packed in twos, unless they make a hot rod to go with Selects Star Convoy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 8th, 2019 @ 2:39am CST
Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Never a part of this Optimus toy to begin with.Ultra Markus wrote:where the hell is roller
Here's to hoping for a Micromaster sometime down the road. The size should work fine with the trailer's more compact size.
Emerje
Only problem would be who he came with given that Micromasters are packed in twos, unless they make a hot rod to go with Selects Star Convoy.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044115)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 8th, 2019 @ 5:25am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 8th, 2019 @ 5:25am CST
In light of Sixgun, Brunt and Ironworks, they might even make Roller into a bot this time?
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Earthrise Grapple, Starscream and Hoist (2044117)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 8th, 2019 @ 5:45am CST
It's possible, would be fun if they tailored him specifically to Optimus Prime, making him a mini godbomber of sorts (Godbomber, the original Weaponizer!)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 8th, 2019 @ 5:45am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In light of Sixgun, Brunt and Ironworks, they might even make Roller into a bot this time?
It's possible, would be fun if they tailored him specifically to Optimus Prime, making him a mini godbomber of sorts (Godbomber, the original Weaponizer!)
