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New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles

Transformers News: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles

Saturday, August 19th, 2023 7:56AM CDT

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Another set of leaks from Jtprime17 posted to the Seibertron Pub forums by Munkky seems to run the widest spectrum of figures yet for the line. Some of these we can only speculate on and others are likely errors (like MV6 Frenzy which is probably the 86 repaint). But there are a few references that we haven't previously seen like "Deluxe HM Megatron" (another High Moon Megatron?), "Next Gen Bumblebee", and two figures marked as "A Level AST" without price classes, one of which is "MV8 OP". Feel free to speculate away in the forums what these could possibly mean!

Munkky wrote:More 2024 Studio Series listings have dropped, courtesy of JtPrime17:

Tra Gen Studio Series Core 86 Steeljaw
Product Number: F8752

Tra Gen Studio Series Core MV6 Frenzy
Product Number: F8753

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe MV7 Wheeljack
Product Number: F7233

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe 86 Gnaw PR
Product Number: F0786 (same as original release)

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen Studio Series Voyager MV6 Skywarp
Product Number: F8769

Tra Gen Studio series Voyager WFC Ratchet
Product Number: F8770

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220
Credit(s): Jtprime17

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Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167078)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:08am CDT
Wouldn't surprise me if next gen Bumblebee is from the Energon Universe comics.

Finally doing MV6 Skywarp, so much for a bunch of the jets being exclusives (thankfully not).

Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167079)
Posted by Rtron on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:13am CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.


Seriously, what the fuck is up with that? Only a core class this year? I got my hopes up when I read "Frenzy", but it's probably just a repack of the 86 guy.

List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy
-Dispensor
-Autobot Protoform
-Decepticon Protoform
-Demolishor
-Scalpel
-Que/Wheeljack
-Hatchet, we've seen renders but he still hasn't shown up
-Devcon
-Sand themed Brawl
-Bumblebee (AOE old camaro)
-Bumblebee (2014 camaro, this absence is particularly puzzling because it'd just be Stinger with a new head, you'd think they would have made it ages ago)
-Drift (car)
-Hound
-Scorn
-Slug
-Strafe
-Junkheap
-Daytrader
-Lieutenant
-Bulldog
-Infernocus
-Onslaught
-Dragonstorm

And these are just the ones I could easily remember, plus I left out anyone who already had proper toys done in The Last Knight.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167082)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:54am CDT
Weirdly most excited for Filch, I guess because it's so unexpected. Probably just a redeco of Airazor, but that's fine for me. Plenty of others that I'm excited for, but I was expecting most of those.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167083)
Posted by sol magnus on August 19th, 2023 @ 9:16am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Weirdly most excited for Filch, I guess because it's so unexpected. Probably just a redeco of Airazor, but that's fine for me. Plenty of others that I'm excited for, but I was expecting most of those.

I'm excited for Filch, Lockdown and Thundertron - who I suspect will be a retool of Tigerhawk. Its the only leader-class even in the ballpark. I should note this is the wrong thread, though.

For SS86, it's nice to get Steeljaw for sure! Bumblebee...best guess is the existing Netflix one with painted windows (which would be welcome).
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167084)
Posted by o.supreme on August 19th, 2023 @ 9:17am CDT
I'm guessing MV8 Op is from the animated film coming out next year
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167087)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 10:43am CDT
Rtron wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.


List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy


Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167090)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 10:46am CDT
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167093)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:10am CDT
Worth noting that according to JTPrime, the 86 Steeljaw has overwritten/replaced the previously leaked AoE Steeljaw.

Considering that clarification has been made but none of the MV6/Bee movie characters that weren't actually in the movie have been changed, I have to assume that actually means they all are Bee movie versions? Who knows at this rate.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167096)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:19am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?


An 07 Frenzy in Studio Series scale would be a microfigure along the lines of Ravage/Igor/Scorponok which we've seen packed in with other figures, but core class would be cool to get as well since it doesn't necessarily need to scale. I imagine they would go with the Boombox alt mode, since that was his more prominent alt mode compared to the cell phone.

The only transforming Frenzy we've had before (excluding Human Alliance, which just folds up) is actually the 07 Fast Action Battler, which used the boombox alt mode. It's kind of a neat looking figure!
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167097)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167099)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:22am CDT
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje
Although, now that I look at the listings again, "A Level" is written where the line's name would be, suggesting it's the start of... a new separate line of its own?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167101)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje
Although, now that I look at the listings again, "A Level" is written where the line's name would be, suggesting it's the start of... a new separate line of its own?

Yeah, the numbers don't work either. Just noticed they're listed as G0200 like the Star Seeker capsule so they might be another exclusive SS line like Buzzworthy Bumblebee. A as in Amazon?

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167102)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?


An 07 Frenzy in Studio Series scale would be a microfigure along the lines of Ravage/Igor/Scorponok which we've seen packed in with other figures, but core class would be cool to get as well since it doesn't necessarily need to scale. I imagine they would go with the Boombox alt mode, since that was his more prominent alt mode compared to the cell phone.

The only transforming Frenzy we've had before (excluding Human Alliance, which just folds up) is actually the 07 Fast Action Battler, which used the boombox alt mode. It's kind of a neat looking figure!


It's been so long since I watched '07. I forgot Frenzy transforms into a phone as well. Seeing as HasTak do love their mold reuses, in theory they could do three separate Frenzy figures?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167103)
Posted by Munkky on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:32am CDT
Rtron wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.


Seriously, what the **** is up with that? Only a core class this year? I got my hopes up when I read "Frenzy", but it's probably just a repack of the 86 guy.

List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy
-Dispensor
-Autobot Protoform
-Decepticon Protoform
-Demolishor
-Scalpel
-Que/Wheeljack
-Hatchet, we've seen renders but he still hasn't shown up
-Devcon
-Sand themed Brawl
-Bumblebee (AOE old camaro)
-Bumblebee (2014 camaro, this absence is particularly puzzling because it'd just be Stinger with a new head, you'd think they would have made it ages ago)
-Drift (car)
-Hound
-Scorn
-Slug
-Strafe
-Junkheap
-Daytrader
-Lieutenant
-Bulldog
-Infernocus
-Onslaught
-Dragonstorm

And these are just the ones I could easily remember, plus I left out anyone who already had proper toys done in The Last Knight.

It definitely sucks that Bayverse has been almost completely phased out from Studio Series when there's still so much more that can be done with it, I would love a Voyager class Onslaught. This brand team must not like doing Bayverse characters all that often. At least Buzzworthy Bumblebee has been coming through with re-issues of older, popular Studio Series toys. It would be great if they re-released Ironhide, maybe adding his Dark of the Moon weaponry, and perhaps do the Wreckers together as a three-pack, Buzzworthy would be a fine place for those.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167104)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:34am CDT
As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167107)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:40am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167108)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.

Have we already forgotten Takara Tomy teased MP Rhinox earlier this year?

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167110)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


Indeed. As paradoxical as that all sounds :lol:
Still there is a silver lining to my cloud. With rumours of MP Rhinox being sighted in Japan. The future for SS Bayformers though? That's a little more murky.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167118)
Posted by Overcracker on August 19th, 2023 @ 12:42pm CDT
Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220


So,Decepticon infantry? This guy?
IMG_0629.jpeg


What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167126)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 2:05pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
We don't know yet.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167128)
Posted by Overcracker on August 19th, 2023 @ 2:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
We don't know yet.


Mysterious.

Specially because A Level AST is applied to the probable next movie Prime, and an 86 Bumblebee. :-?
The game’s afoot.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167129)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 3:26pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
We don't know yet.


Mysterious.

Specially because A Level AST is applied to the probable next movie Prime, and an 86 Bumblebee. :-?
The game’s afoot.
At the very least, "AST" usually means "assortment".
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167134)
Posted by M. Spector on August 19th, 2023 @ 4:40pm CDT
So is that .. Studio Series Movie 8 Optimus Prime? how curious. I feel like a lot of these mightve gotten the big translation garble effect and we'll have to wait and see
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167136)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 5:04pm CDT
M. Spector wrote:So is that .. Studio Series Movie 8 Optimus Prime? how curious. I feel like a lot of these mightve gotten the big translation garble effect and we'll have to wait and see
We're not entirely sure, since it's also listed under "A Level AST" instead of "Studio Series", and have a product number that better resembles those that belong to a capsule subline.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167152)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 20th, 2023 @ 12:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
M. Spector wrote:So is that .. Studio Series Movie 8 Optimus Prime? how curious. I feel like a lot of these mightve gotten the big translation garble effect and we'll have to wait and see
We're not entirely sure, since it's also listed under "A Level AST" instead of "Studio Series", and have a product number that better resembles those that belong to a capsule subline.
And the product number also changed from starting with F to starting with G. That usually means a different line of production as well with different guidelines for aesthetic. So I doubt they will be Studio Series, though being designated "MV8" and "86" does give me pause.

If we indeed get a SS86 Bee, will it be another use of the Netflix mold, perhaps in a brighter yellow like Buzzworthy Bee was? And does that mean Prime will be a figure of Prime from the fully animated movie scheduled to come out next year, which is apparently labeled "movie 8?"
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167153)
Posted by Emerje on August 20th, 2023 @ 12:51am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
M. Spector wrote:So is that .. Studio Series Movie 8 Optimus Prime? how curious. I feel like a lot of these mightve gotten the big translation garble effect and we'll have to wait and see
We're not entirely sure, since it's also listed under "A Level AST" instead of "Studio Series", and have a product number that better resembles those that belong to a capsule subline.
And the product number also changed from starting with F to starting with G. That usually means a different line of production as well with different guidelines for aesthetic. So I doubt they will be Studio Series, though being designated "MV8" and "86" does give me pause.

If we indeed get a SS86 Bee, will it be another use of the Netflix mold, perhaps in a brighter yellow like Buzzworthy Bee was? And does that mean Prime will be a figure of Prime from the fully animated movie scheduled to come out next year, which is apparently labeled "movie 8?"

That's what he was saying, G0200 series is the Star Seeker capsule so these are probably also exclusive.

I wouldn't trust the MV8 part too much. Just like how MV6 Frenzy is most definitely SS86 Frenzy, MV8 OP is probably SS86 OP. I would be very surprised if movie 8 happens next year or even in the next two years given ROTB's poor performance.

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167154)
Posted by JoeBot83 on August 20th, 2023 @ 12:54am CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220


So,Decepticon infantry? This guy?
IMG_0629.jpeg


What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167159)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 20th, 2023 @ 7:09am CDT
Last night, my customs page on this site reached 1 million views! I've got a few things to celebrate:

First off is a group shot of every Studio Series custom I've done over the years! This took a long time to set up xD

Complete Group Shot.jpg


Second, I'm holding a vote for what my extra DOTM Bumblebee gets repainted into! Here's the link:

https://forms.gle/oMYo4Bg4wJbs2DBB9

Bee Options.jpg


Thank you again to everyone whos checked out my work either on the page or over in this thread!
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167160)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 20th, 2023 @ 7:37am CDT
Congrats and I voted for Goldfire/Goldbug.
By principle, he should also have the battlemask head.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167172)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 20th, 2023 @ 2:52pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:And the product number also changed from starting with F to starting with G. That usually means a different line of production as well with different guidelines for aesthetic. So I doubt they will be Studio Series, though being designated "MV8" and "86" does give me pause.


I wouldn't use product numbers as a mean of indicating new lines per se, as there's no special formatting to indicate them: across all of Hasbro toylines, it's a first-come-first-serve in assigning them, and now with Power Rangers on board, the numbers are going faster than ever.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167181)
Posted by Rtron on August 20th, 2023 @ 5:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


I'm pretty sure Generations doesn't affect Masterpiece. They teased Rhinox a while back.

Congrats Camarobee on a million views!
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167182)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 20th, 2023 @ 5:50pm CDT
Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


I'm pretty sure Generations doesn't affect Masterpiece. They teased Rhinox a while back.


In a sense it did, actually. Unlike G1, Beast Wars with its smaller fanbase is more prone to oversaturation of its market and we have seen what oversaturated markets do. Now that lines are moving away from Beast Wars Masterpiece is ready to fill that void again.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167183)
Posted by Rtron on August 20th, 2023 @ 6:02pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


I'm pretty sure Generations doesn't affect Masterpiece. They teased Rhinox a while back.


In a sense it did, actually. Unlike G1, Beast Wars with its smaller fanbase is more prone to oversaturation of its market and we have seen what oversaturated markets do. Now that lines are moving away from Beast Wars Masterpiece is ready to fill that void again.


Masterpiece and Generations are not the same market. It's like saying family cars crowd the sports car market.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167184)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 20th, 2023 @ 6:10pm CDT
Rtron wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


I'm pretty sure Generations doesn't affect Masterpiece. They teased Rhinox a while back.


In a sense it did, actually. Unlike G1, Beast Wars with its smaller fanbase is more prone to oversaturation of its market and we have seen what oversaturated markets do. Now that lines are moving away from Beast Wars Masterpiece is ready to fill that void again.


Masterpiece and Generations are not the same market. It's like saying family cars crowd the sports car market.


I'm talking the total market here, besides there's an overlap with the markets you described, with some fans picking and choosing between MP and Generations.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167185)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 20th, 2023 @ 6:31pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.


I'm pretty sure Generations doesn't affect Masterpiece. They teased Rhinox a while back.


In a sense it did, actually. Unlike G1, Beast Wars with its smaller fanbase is more prone to oversaturation of its market and we have seen what oversaturated markets do. Now that lines are moving away from Beast Wars Masterpiece is ready to fill that void again.
Although, Beast Wars Again is sticking around for a little bit and creating a redundancy for the Kingdom figures.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167187)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 20th, 2023 @ 7:44pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Congrats and I voted for Goldfire/Goldbug.
By principle, he should also have the battlemask head.

Thank you!

Yep, if Goldfire wins it’ll definitely use the masked head sculpt!
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167190)
Posted by Emerje on August 20th, 2023 @ 8:48pm CDT
Quick thought: HM Megatron is listed as a Deluxe, and we also have a Deluxe Optimus Prime coming next year in Legacy. Think there's any connection? I mean, aside from "lower price point option for kids".

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167191)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 20th, 2023 @ 9:06pm CDT
I just transformed SS ROTB Rhinox and wow. That's a magnificent robot mode for a bad-ass rhino mode! I didn't had any difficulties transforming him without instructions but a word of warning. Things WILL pop off all over the place. Fortunately, they pop right back in. I'm glad for this feature because I would have hurt myself / broken things a few times while figuring out the transformation if things would have been pinned instead.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167208)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 21st, 2023 @ 6:34am CDT
The fact that, between 2023 and 2024 we will get exactly 2 bayverse figures, and they are both cores, is saddening on so many levels.

For everyone that commented on my cynicism with regards to us not getting to complete the original mission of SS because they moved the goal posts: told you so.

The fact that it will now be at least 2025 AKA SEVEN YEARS since AOE Grimlock before we get another Dinobot is disheartening, especially since they just re-released him.

I am also willing to bet that at least one of those listings is for a Transformers: Reactive figure.

Anyways, happier topic. I spent some time with the SS RotB figures this weekend, as well as some time with the mainline figures taking some comparison pics for squads. SS Bee is definitely better than the mainline figure, but mainline Prime is a better figure than the SS one.

I also am splitting the beasts up into 1 release in bot mode, and 1 release in robot mode for display. SS Primal will most likely be in robot mode.

Scourge is still awesome!

I also took some updated group shots of the SS shelves. enjoy!

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Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167209)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 21st, 2023 @ 6:40am CDT
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As expected, the only place where scale make sense is in the Studio Series line. In the ROTB Mainline, we get a tiny Optimus with a "giant" Bee.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167223)
Posted by Actar on August 21st, 2023 @ 8:48am CDT
Quick review of Studio Series Mirage! Mirage's car mode is indeed covered from front to back with gorgeous metallic silver and blue paint. Definitely the highlight of the figure. Of course, most of the painted pieces are made from transparent plastic, which might pose some issues in the future.

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Robot mode is pretty much a case of what you see is what you get. Vehicle kibble is obtrusive and severely hinders articulation. Head articulation, waist articulation, and leg articulation are all neutered thanks to the vehicle panels, most of which are pinned in. As mentioned above, a ton of the figure is made out of transparent plastic, including the entirety of the forearms (as they form the windows). Not too big a fan of that.

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Interestingly enough, you can collapse the double shoulder hinges to, in my opinion, improve the look significantly. It does mean that the arms can't come down straight against his sides because of the kibble, but it does slim him up quite a bit and make him look more accurate to the on-screen model. In fact, a number of the pictures above already used the shoulder-down configuration, and I think it works.

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Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167228)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 21st, 2023 @ 9:12am CDT
Mirage have a magnificent car mode, but the bot is unfortunately ZERO % accurate from the movie. Even the bot by himself is just a kibble mess.

Still, I may buy him but only on sale. I'd customise it into some sort of "alternate reality Jazz.".
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167241)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 21st, 2023 @ 3:21pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I wouldn't trust the MV8 part too much. Just like how MV6 Frenzy is most definitely SS86 Frenzy, MV8 OP is probably SS86 OP. I would be very surprised if movie 8 happens next year or even in the next two years given ROTB's poor performance.

Emerje
...but we already know there's a movie coming out next year, TF One. Nowhere is it specified that "MV8" specifically means live-action movie 8.

Also, SS86 Rumble and Frenzy both already exist (even though Frenzy isn't out yet), so what you're suggesting would mean that either the listings are even more screwed up than already speculated (since they would be saying the wrong movie and be missing the PR designation) even though having a repack in wave 1 is basically unheard of below Leader class, or that Hasbro is genuinely going to try to sell Rumble (Red) and Frenzy (Blue) as separate figures from Rumble (Blue) and Frenzy (Red)....even though that would still mean the red cassette would be in Wave 4 this year and then immediately repacked via technicality in Wave 1 next year.

I honestly think that at this point the listings being 100% accurate is just more plausible, the only one I could still see maybe being mislabeled is maaaybe Sunstreaker (and even then, why would he not have been corrected when Steeljaw was?).
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167243)
Posted by Overcracker on August 21st, 2023 @ 4:56pm CDT
Actar wrote:Quick review of Studio Series Mirage! Mirage's car mode is indeed covered from front to back with gorgeous metallic silver and blue paint. Definitely the highlight of the figure. Of course, most of the painted pieces are made from transparent plastic, which might pose some issues in the future.

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That alt-mode is good enough to make me want to pick him up, If I ever find him.

Can anybody that has Mirage take a comparison pic him with SS-86 Jazz in car mode, just for kicks?

Emerje wrote:
I wouldn't trust the MV8 part too much. Just like how MV6 Frenzy is most definitely SS86 Frenzy, MV8 OP is probably SS86 OP. I would be very surprised if movie 8 happens next year or even in the next two years given ROTB's poor performance.

Emerje


The animated movie is confirmed for next year. So one can assume figures from there will make it into SS. So, this MV8 Prime makes a lot of sense there even if he is being voiced by Chris "The Mighty Thor" Hemsworth.

What's still confusing is why MV8 Prime and Bumblebee are both in whatever sub-group / line "A Level" is supposed to be. Some type of more accurate figure sub-line? Special detailing , paint apps? Who knows.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167256)
Posted by Emerje on August 21st, 2023 @ 10:49pm CDT
We knew for a fact ROTB was coming in 2022 until it was pushed back an entire year only months ahead of release. Given that movie's poor performance I have no reason to believe we're getting movies in consecutive years without taking a break for reevaluation.

Frenzy wasn't in the Bumblebee movie so I doubt the accuracy of that listing unless it's another Freezer repaint they're sticking a Bumblebee logo on. That feels like a wasted Core slot for a mold that doesn't need a third retail repaint if that's the case.

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167273)
Posted by Overcracker on August 22nd, 2023 @ 12:07pm CDT
Emerje wrote:We knew for a fact ROTB was coming in 2022 until it was pushed back an entire year only months ahead of release. Given that movie's poor performance I have no reason to believe we're getting movies in consecutive years without taking a break for reevaluation.

Frenzy wasn't in the Bumblebee movie so I doubt the accuracy of that listing unless it's another Freezer repaint they're sticking a Bumblebee logo on. That feels like a wasted Core slot for a mold that doesn't need a third retail repaint if that's the case.

Emerje


It's an animated feature and RotB was delayed due to other factors.

I don't see any reason for them to delay the movie, worst comes to worst, they may choose to just release it Direct to streaming instead of theatrical if they don't want to spend the money on advertisements.

Transformers One. - September 13 2024 - IMDB.com

But anything can happen as you say.

But if it's not for TFONE, then what is this Prime? a 40th anniversary SS86 version?
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167279)
Posted by Emerje on August 22nd, 2023 @ 3:09pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Emerje wrote:We knew for a fact ROTB was coming in 2022 until it was pushed back an entire year only months ahead of release. Given that movie's poor performance I have no reason to believe we're getting movies in consecutive years without taking a break for reevaluation.

Frenzy wasn't in the Bumblebee movie so I doubt the accuracy of that listing unless it's another Freezer repaint they're sticking a Bumblebee logo on. That feels like a wasted Core slot for a mold that doesn't need a third retail repaint if that's the case.

Emerje


It's an animated feature and RotB was delayed due to other factors.

I don't see any reason for them to delay the movie, worst comes to worst, they may choose to just release it Direct to streaming instead of theatrical if they don't want to spend the money on advertisements.

Transformers One. - September 13 2024 - IMDB.com

But anything can happen as you say.

But if it's not for TFONE, then what is this Prime? a 40th anniversary SS86 version?

People seem to be sure SS86 Prime is going to be a Commander class figure so I don't think this is that. The whole "A Level" thing is a total unknown so I couldn't even venture a guess what it'll really be. Between the G0200 numbering that's being used for exclusives and lack of price class it could be anything from a true "mini Masterpiece" new mold line to a "Premium Finish" style Hasbro line for Earthrise molds (since Takara Tomy handled Siege, SS, and Kingdom), to a 1-step Generations line to something that never sees the light of day. Could literally be anything. Only thing I don't think it is is TF:One.

Emerje
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167281)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
Emerje wrote:People seem to be sure SS86 Prime is going to be a Commander class figure so I don't think this is that.
Unfortunately, that speculation was based entirely on speculation about SS86 Commmander class Ultra Magnus having an inner cab robot that could be redecoed into Optimus for a SS86 Commander class release, but said Ultra Magnus ended up not having an inner cab robot after all.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167285)
Posted by Overcracker on August 22nd, 2023 @ 5:30pm CDT
Maybe the error is with Bumblebee.

Maybe they are both MV8 figures. BB is slated to be in that movie too.

The lack of class size however is a bit strange.
Re: New set of Unconfirmed Leaks for Studio Series Includes Unfamiliar Titles (2167291)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 22nd, 2023 @ 7:55pm CDT
I just want my other 3 live action Dinobots, Que, and Frenzy. Please.

I am practically begging now.

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