New Scale Image: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-17 Prowl

Prowl seems a bit blocky but it fits for G1. I still want to get him for around $50 if I could seeing how these deluxe class sized MP transformers are cheaper than the more Leader Class sized ones.

Prowl looks better and better. It's a great time to be a Masterpiece collector.

Posting these next to the movie bots really shows how lifeless and same-ey they are. So much personality, visible car bits, expression in the face, vivid color... I'll take the G1 Masterpiece over the movie line any day. They look amazing.

Got Prowl on preorder; looking forward to his release!

I was worried about the scale, but it looks perfect.

gothsaurus wrote:Posting these next to the movie bots really shows how lifeless and same-ey they are. So much personality, visible car bits, expression in the face, vivid color... I'll take the G1 Masterpiece over the movie line any day. They look amazing.

To be fair,all the toys Optimus RotF Leader mold gets does make him look pretty awesome.

Xephon0930 wrote:Prowl seems a bit blocky but it fits for G1. I still want to get him for around $50 if I could seeing how these deluxe class sized MP transformers are cheaper than the more Leader Class sized ones.

Hobbylink Japan has him for about that much if their preorders are still open. That is excluding shipping, though.

Xephon0930 wrote:Prowl seems a bit blocky but it fits for G1. I still want to get him for around $50 if I could seeing how these deluxe class sized MP transformers are cheaper than the more Leader Class sized ones.

I wish that was the case, but if Sideswipe is any indication, he'll sell out shortly and prices will go up. when I got him from BBTS at the preorder price of $84.99 I felt that he would eventually go down in price and go on sale on BBTS, but lucky for me, I had a store credit of $60.89 for an item that I had cancelled from my POL and bought him, otherwise I wouldn' of picked him up, and I do believe he is now sold out and going for over $100.00, personally I would preorder/purchase prowl and not look back, either way his value will not depreciate, specially the Takara MP version...take care and good luck

looks good but not for the price

Excited about these two. They look perfect.

Now I kind of want a Sideswipe, too.

Great detail.

I have the silver and red repaint of Alternators Prowl (I dont remember the name). I dont see much difference here. So, what's the point paying for the "masterpeice" when the Alternators are (almost) perfectly fine?

Especially whith Reprolabels. I have Alternators Jazz with repros and I'm not looking forward for a MP Jazz anymore.
With my Alternators Hound, I just need to buy the repros and some Shapeways accessories if they ever make them to have a MP Hound.
Of course, I dont say all Alternators are MP quality or even representative of their G1 counterpart.

I see the new MP line for the Autobot cars as the new Alternators line in fact. It's just too bad that they are at Takara prices.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I have the silver and red repaint of Alternators Prowl (I dont remember the name). I dont see much difference here. So, what's the point paying for the "masterpeice" when the Alternators are (almost) perfectly fine?

For one thing, MP Prowl is a near exact representation of Prowl as he appears in the G1 cartoon. Alternators Prowl, on the other hand, uses a different alt mode and a little on the "chunky" side.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I have the silver and red repaint of Alternators Prowl (I dont remember the name). I dont see much difference here. So, what's the point paying for the "masterpeice" when the Alternators are (almost) perfectly fine?

For one thing, MP Prowl is a near exact representation of Prowl as he appears in the G1 cartoon. Alternators Prowl, on the other hand, uses a different alt mode and a little on the "chunky" side.

Meh, who I am kidding? If they ever bother brigging them over here as Hasbro NON-EXCLUSIVES at maybe around 40$ (the Human Alliance price point) I would buy them in a heartbeat. For me to pay 100$ for one of these tiny MPs, it have to be a Character I truly care about.

????? That makes no sense Kan. Yes you'll pay $80-$100 to deal with importers/secondary market options (which is entirely self-inflicted), but here's the thing. Plenty of Asian retailers have had these guys on preorder for about $50. I paid $49 for Sideswipe and Red Alert, I paid $138 Soundwave, I'm paying $36 for each of the cassette sets and I'm paying $48 for each of the Datsuns.

The trick is to preorder from the right place and at the right time.

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Dont get me wrong, those mp- sideswipe and prowl look great. But they got my much maligned and loved human alliance/ bayformer figures looking bad next to those guys.

Yeah those 2 HA figures cant compare to those mp's but if you put them next to *Human alliance Skids with Makela Barnes sitting on his shoulder. Now thats a different story. I would take Human Alliance Skids and even Deluxe battle blades bumble over mp-prowl anyday (maybe because I haven't really seen him yet) but not sideswipe he's grreat. I only would put ha skids and a couple of other formers over swipe cause swipe is that good. He is a Lambo what more can you say.

Good MP figures tho thx.

Show those Mp- Smokescreen pictures pls.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I have the silver and red repaint of Alternators Prowl (I dont remember the name). I dont see much difference here. So, what's the point paying for the "masterpeice" when the Alternators are (almost) perfectly fine?

For one thing, MP Prowl is a near exact representation of Prowl as he appears in the G1 cartoon. Alternators Prowl, on the other hand, uses a different alt mode and a little on the "chunky" side.

Don't forget that the Alternator chest is completely wrong. It points down and the doorwings are at the wrong angle as well.

Mykltron wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I have the silver and red repaint of Alternators Prowl (I dont remember the name). I dont see much difference here. So, what's the point paying for the "masterpeice" when the Alternators are (almost) perfectly fine?

For one thing, MP Prowl is a near exact representation of Prowl as he appears in the G1 cartoon. Alternators Prowl, on the other hand, uses a different alt mode and a little on the "chunky" side.

Don't forget that the Alternator chest is completely wrong. It points down and the doorwings are at the wrong angle as well.

Well, basically besides the paint scheme, decals and head sculpt, everything else about the mold does NOT represent G1 Prowl. That said, he was never intended to perfectly represent G1 Prowl, unlike MP Prowl.

Don't see a difference... between a 1970s car and a 2000s car???

What are those piles of junk I see hanging out int he background?

Nice wide angle shot of the master pieces vs. two of the best figures the movies had to offer. Jazz and Barricade were some of the best figures from the movie universe, yes, they might not be masterpieces but also they did not cost masterpiece prices either, I was able to pick them both up from Marshalls and TJ Maxx for about $ 15 dollars each, I will definitely pick the masterpieces but I still love those two guys in the background.

Transformado wrote:also they did not cost masterpiece prices either

Depends on where you are. Sideswipe and Red Alert on preorder actually cost me slightly less than what I pay for Voyagers at retail here.

I get that it's a huge jump for people in the US, but outside of the US, where you're paying $45-$50 or more for Voyagers, it becomes a really tough decision. I mean do I pick up a voyager class figure or do I preorder a Masterpiece Autobot Car - it's totally......

not a dilema at all

gothsaurus wrote:Don't see a difference... between a 1970s car and a 2000s car???

I never said that I didnt see any differences. I basically said that the Alternator is good enough.

...

That's what I say to console myself because of lack of money and display space...

Alternately offload your CHUG and BT figs to fund getting them and make space for them in the process - problem solved .

As has been the case with the past few Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece figures Amazon Japan will be throwing in exclusive accessories with the upcoming MP-17 Prowl and MP-18 Bluestreak figures. Each figure will come with a G1 style shoulder weapon, so fans will need both if they want to display one or the other with a pair. Check out the images mirrored below.

Article should be corrected.

Each figure only comes with one rocket launcher. You have to buy both to have them displayed with one on each shoulder.

Randy

I knew it. I knew those silly barrel launchers were going to be optional. But only comes with one? That's just plain stupid. Well, so much for pre-ordering these.

I'll wait and see if Hasbro will be releasing these in the U.S. I'm sure if they do they'll do the right thing and include both. They seem to have a little more common sense with their MP releases.

Powered Convoy wrote:Article should be corrected.

Each figure only comes with one rocket launcher. You have to buy both to have them displayed with one on each shoulder.

Randy

you are wrong my friend, they come as a pair... no ifs ands or butts about it. I think these should come with all of the figures, these are the accurate shoulder cannons, not the flip out things that look like cheap pipes. now takara has dropped the ball

I'm probably not going to bother tracking these down.

I did for the Sideswipe & Soundwave exclusive accessories, only to have Dr Wu put out similar sets for the figures that, IMO, were better, and overall would have cost less.

Powered Convoy wrote:Article should be corrected.

Each figure only comes with one rocket launcher. You have to buy both to have them displayed with one on each shoulder.

Randy

Done.

This is quite silly.

If the MP line is meant to be G1 cartoon/toy accurate, than these accessories should have been included from the get-go, as they correspond more closely to the character model of the cartoon and the original toy than the shoulder barrels we've seen previously.

I got Sideswipe's official pile drivers for the sake of supporting the official brand (and for completeness's sake), even though I will never display Sideswipe with those accessories. I felt no need to get Soundwave's Amazon cube since it was simply an extra one, identical to the one he already came with.

In this case... I need to get them... these are accessories I would actually display. I guess Prowl & Bluestreak are getting preordered at Robotkingdom... ugh.

VioMeTriX wrote:

Powered Convoy wrote:Article should be corrected.

Each figure only comes with one rocket launcher. You have to buy both to have them displayed with one on each shoulder.

Randy

you are wrong my friend, they come as a pair... no ifs ands or butts about it. I think these should come with all of the figures, these are the accurate shoulder cannons, not the flip out things that look like cheap pipes. now takara has dropped the ball

I think there are ifs, ands, and butts here. From everything I have seen you only get one of these or you have to do with the stupid flip out things which you (very) accurately described as looking like cheap pipes.

Not cool. I thought that the amazon pre-order included BOTH rockets.

This kinda kills my order for prowl.

Seems like accessories with the smaller sized figures are getting lesser. And the rockets are a pretty vital piece to their look, IMO, should have came packed with the figure.

I'm glad they found SOME way to get these out, even if as a store exclusive. (And Amazon is pretty easy to get access to.)

From interviews, it sounds like Takara gave these a really low price point/low budget for a masterpiece figure... to the point that the designer thought it might not be possible. All that said, them figuring out a way to get the figures and parts out in SOME way is commendable... not to mention finding a way to give us a show AND toy accurate version. Bravo.

If one were to get both to get two rocket launchers, but torn between which figure to give both to, I'd say to give them to Streak, since he had the shoulder cannons in the cartoon, whereas Prowl did not.

Out of interest I tried to see if I could pre-order these from amazon.co.jp and have them sent to me in the UK but they don't allow that. Booo.

I wondered if Amazon.co.jp allowed you to pre-pay import fees like Amazon.com does.

I'm really craving these guys. If I muster up enough money, I'll try and take a dive at Silverstreak over there.

I prefer Silverstreak over Bluestreak or Streak. Sounds cooler.

At first these accessories being exclusive bothered me, but seeing them in detail... meh, they look a little too chunky. Kinda silly. I can live with the built-in ones. I'm sure someone will repro them soon enough anyway.

These remind me a LOT of the rocket (Flamethrower) on Jazz's shoulder.



Speaking of Jazz, I really hope that the next Masterpiece is him... He kind of needs that treatment.

Agreed on Jazz next!

I'm going to be upset if these four below don't get issued — for being an iconic character or unique visual mold from the season 1 lineup. (And honestly, the iGear minibots and Ironhide/Ratchet can act as a passable stand in for those characters if we never get a Masterpiece version.)

Jazz (and Stepper)
Mirage (and Diaclone Red)
Sunstreaker (and Diaclone Red)
Wheeljack (and Marlboor, Slicer)

From the Minibots:
Bumblebee
Cliffjumper

I get these above, I'll rest my case... like, forever. But of course, I'd still buy the rest of the "deluxe" car lineup... I think a jeep, trucks, van are really unique vehicles to add to the lineup... plus a vintage Corvette is always a sexy choice.
Hound (and Detritus)
Tracks (and Road Rage)
Trailbreaker / Hoist
Ironhide / Ratchet

Meh, Amazon exclusive.

I'll just wait for Dr. Wu to work his magic, you just know that he will.

Back to the group shot, im thinking that TT are showing us more than just a scale comparison. Then again, i could just be reading too much into.it

Yeegads man. If that were the case... and we got a G1 Barricade repaint/retool and then Jazz.... wow. That would be amazing.

As much as I hesitate to use the Bay emoticon, maybe this would warrant it?

@!%$#$%#@$%$#%@#@$ Amazon and Takara! Seriously! I can understand then pulling that line with Sideswipe's Jackhammers as they didn't show up that much compared to his piledrivers, but the toy accurate launchers on the Datsuns, especially with Prowl, are completely different. If any launchers had to be offered as Amazon Exclusives, why wasn't it the "cartoon accurate" ones?

Not. Happy. Jan!!!!

Don't really care for the launchers. I'm only getting Prowl, anyway, who (I think) never did use shoulder launchers in the G1 cartoon. Even if he did, the built-in ones are good enough for me.

I've got no sense of nostalgia for the original G1 toy either, since I never owned one as a kid. The launchers honestly don't mean much to me.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeegads man. If that were the case... and we got a G1 Barricade repaint/retool and then Jazz.... wow. That would be amazing.

As much as I hesitate to use the Bay emoticon, maybe this would warrant it?

The Law Enforcement connection, finally, i can play good cop bad cop. But wasnt there a HA Sideswipe? Surely they couldve used him instead

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Don't really care for the launchers. I'm only getting Prowl, anyway, who (I think) never did use shoulder launchers in the G1 cartoon. Even if he did, the built-in ones are good enough for me.

I've got no sense of nostalgia for the original G1 toy either, since I never owned one as a kid. The launchers honestly don't mean much to me.

That's the difference though. Prowl would have been my first TF (I got talked out of Laybying him into getting Orko instead ) and he was one of my favorite characters in the cartoon.

I picked him up as a Classics figure and after an accident with him during a force room cleanup as a teenager, I picked up the Takara reissue. I've always had a special place in my heart for the figure so with this one, my standards are fairly, but reasonably high.

Some of us have a huge nostalgia connection to the toy and for us, everything, including the launchers, matter.

Bowspearer wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Don't really care for the launchers. I'm only getting Prowl, anyway, who (I think) never did use shoulder launchers in the G1 cartoon. Even if he did, the built-in ones are good enough for me.

I've got no sense of nostalgia for the original G1 toy either, since I never owned one as a kid. The launchers honestly don't mean much to me.

That's the difference though. Prowl would have been my first TF (I got talked out of Laybying him into getting Orko instead ) and he was one of my favorite characters in the cartoon.

I picked him up as a Classics figure and after an accident with him during a force room cleanup as a teenager, I picked up the Takara reissue. I've always had a special place in my heart for the figure so with this one, my standards are fairly, but reasonably high.

Some of us have a huge nostalgia connection to the toy and for us, everything, including the launchers, matter.

Honestly, I know where you're coming from. I was the same way when I realized MP Megatron didn't come with the stock and silencer.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Don't really care for the launchers. I'm only getting Prowl, anyway, who (I think) never did use shoulder launchers in the G1 cartoon. Even if he did, the built-in ones are good enough for me.

I've got no sense of nostalgia for the original G1 toy either, since I never owned one as a kid. The launchers honestly don't mean much to me.

That's the difference though. Prowl would have been my first TF (I got talked out of Laybying him into getting Orko instead ) and he was one of my favorite characters in the cartoon.

I picked him up as a Classics figure and after an accident with him during a force room cleanup as a teenager, I picked up the Takara reissue. I've always had a special place in my heart for the figure so with this one, my standards are fairly, but reasonably high.

Some of us have a huge nostalgia connection to the toy and for us, everything, including the launchers, matter.

Honestly, I know where you're coming from. I was the same way when I realized MP Megatron didn't come with the stock and silencer.

And just think, that was before you got your hands on the figure