New Possible Transformers Cyberverse Grimlock Packaging Art

I don't think that detracts at all -- they'd simply be using the same packaging art for multiple products. We see it all the time; like with Sideswipe here.

Kurona wrote:I don't think that detracts at all -- they'd simply be using the same packaging art for multiple products. We see it all the time; like with Sideswipe here.

'Some assembly required' does not mean you need to build it. And having the same card art as the other toys suggests that it may just be a weapon or something - given that other toys that require no assembly also have the same wording.

Is what I meant.

That Grimlock art we first saw is just the front window card wraparound.

Va'al wrote:'Some assembly required' does not mean you need to build it. And having the same card art as the other toys suggests that it may just be a weapon or something - given that other toys that require no assembly also have the same wording.

Exactly. Most likely you have to snap the dino head onto the figure like we did TR Skullsmasher.



I'd be surprised if it were anything more than that.

Emerje

In the continued multilateral effort to spoil as much new content as possible, we have some more packaging art for the currently speculated Cyberverse toyline - we will know more after Hascon next week, probably - with the back of Grimlock's packaging being now accompanied by some Optimus Prime and Megatron artwork too.

Check out the images mirrored below from usual Weibo user tf-factory, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub.

That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?

Still, look interesting enough.

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?

Still, look interesting enough.

The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.

Sjeng wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?

Still, look interesting enough.

The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.

I dont know that I agree with you on that. Look at Grimmy's fist holes. If we assume those are a standard size, those look more like 5mm than the 3 that Legin used. Could totally be wrong, mind you.

Based on the directions and similarity to the RiD warrior packaging and steps, I'm guessing somewhere around deluxe sized

Sjeng wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?

Still, look interesting enough.

The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.

Its the same as the RID warriors. A Legion packaging would be too small for the instructions to be printed in the back.

Anyways, about these toys it looks like Hasbro through their arms in the air and went "Fuck it! Fans want G1 again, here's G1 again, same tranformation, same design, same fucking everything now leave us the fuck alone!"

And about that grimlock not being a model kit, yeah I can totally concede to that now but the "no tools required" is still super odd to see.

That Grimlock figure.....the G1 figure is better.

I think that sums up how i feel about this.

DMSL wrote:That Grimlock figure.....the G1 figure is better.

I think that sums up how i feel about this.

Whats better about G1, the shinyness?

The box art looks so much better then the other pictures of the designs so far but it's probably not going to be what the show looks like so no reason to be excited.

On one hand I'm disappointed that it looks like Grimlock will not come with a weapon but OMG this Cyberverse line looks awesome. I'm more excited for it then POTP.

Ooof, that doesn't look too great. It has that same sort of awkwardness and bad chunkiness that some of the early RiD Warrior Autobots had.

Like the RiD Warriors though, I hope this is only an indicator of how the line will start out and not how it will continue -- and we will instead get some awesome gems later on.

Theirs something about that megaton art I really like and I don't know why.

Is it just me or do these seem to be in the same vein as the Cyber Batallion Series. Large hollow things, with simple transformations and lower price tags.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/





Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.

Overcracker wrote:Is it just me or do these seem to be in the same vein as the Cyber Batallion Series. Large hollow things, with simple transformations and lower price tags.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/





Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.

Only problem with that is that I have never ever seen a carded voyager toy. I am pretty sure this will basically be the same as the simpler RID figures like Twinferno, Stormshot and Optimus Prime instead this time it will be all G1 with no new or modern characters.

Looking forward to seeing that Megatron and Starscream though.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Is it just me or do these seem to be in the same vein as the Cyber Batallion Series. Large hollow things, with simple transformations and lower price tags.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/





Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.

Only problem with that is that I have never ever seen a carded voyager toy. I am pretty sure this will basically be the same as the simpler RID figures like Twinferno, Stormshot and Optimus Prime instead this time it will be all G1 with no new or modern characters.

Looking forward to seeing that Megatron and Starscream though.

That's true, can;t recall ever seeing a Voyager on a card, but there's always a first time for everything no?

Megs looks like he could be a decent toy.

I don't think these are Cyberverse designs, guys.

While it's entirely possible that Cyberverse may take some inspiration from these designs, Emiliano Santalucia has confirmed himself to be the one responsible for creating these designs, and which we refers to as his "Transformers evergreen" designs.

https://www.facebook.com/emiliano.santalucia.artist/posts/1662229523789691

https://www.facebook.com/emiliano.santalucia.artist/posts/1695254980487145

https://www.facebook.com/emiliano.santalucia.artist/posts/1714936498518993

https://www.facebook.com/emiliano.santalucia.artist/posts/1718585278154115

Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sabrblade wrote:Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sure, but then we get that Grimlock who is not ancillary merchandise. He is a full on deluxe in a new line. What line would that be?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sure, but then we get that Grimlock who is not ancillary merchandise. He is a full on deluxe in a new line. What line would that be?

How do you know for certain that it's a Deluxe?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sure, but then we get that Grimlock who is not ancillary merchandise. He is a full on deluxe in a new line. What line would that be?

How do you know for certain that it's a Deluxe?

The card back and the fist holes. Cant be anything else than that size (though it may be called a different class).

We already know the evergreen designs are used for 4.5 inch toys but only for Megatron, Optimus, Starscream and BB. So this grimlock cannot be in that smaller size.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sure, but then we get that Grimlock who is not ancillary merchandise. He is a full on deluxe in a new line. What line would that be?

How do you know for certain that it's a Deluxe?

The card back and the fist holes. Cant be anything else than that size (though it may be called a different class).

We already know the evergreen designs are used for 4.5 inch toys but only for Megatron, Optimus, Starscream and BB. So this grimlock cannot be in that smaller size.

Reasonable. Though, for all we know, the Grimlock toy itself might be for another generically-named "Transformers" line of simple dollar store toys, as its only a 7-step figure with bare minimum paint apps and seems rather limited in articulation.

A main line Deluxe, even the least impressive Warriors of the RID line, don't look quite as phoned in as that Grimlock does.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Now, this isn't to say that "Evergreen" is the name of a series, but rather, it appears that Santalucia is using it in the sense of these designs simply representing the characters in a basic, broad strokes format, as though they're designs meant to be used for ancillary merchandise and such.

Sure, but then we get that Grimlock who is not ancillary merchandise. He is a full on deluxe in a new line. What line would that be?

How do you know for certain that it's a Deluxe?

The card back and the fist holes. Cant be anything else than that size (though it may be called a different class).

We already know the evergreen designs are used for 4.5 inch toys but only for Megatron, Optimus, Starscream and BB. So this grimlock cannot be in that smaller size.

Reasonable. Though, for all we know, the Grimlock toy itself might be for another generically-named "Transformers" line of simple dollar store toys, as its only a 7-step figure with bare minimum paint apps and seemingly limited in articulation.

That is 100% possible. All I meant was that its a deluxe sized toy not POTP and inspired by the new G1 designs we see popping up, anything else is pure speculation. And in any case, all we will need to do then is change the title of this thread but the dicsusson will all remain based on this same new line.

Edited my previous post.

And, to put it forward, it seems a bit presumptuous to label these designs as part of the new Cyberverse series at this time (as per the current title of this thread).

Sabrblade wrote:Edited my previous post.

And, to put it forward, it seems a bit presumptuous to label these designs as part of the new Cyberverse series at this time (as per the current title of this thread).

I changed it to Evergreen for now since thats what the leaks and the designer is calling the designs. We will change it again with the official name from hascon.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Edited my previous post.

And, to put it forward, it seems a bit presumptuous to label these designs as part of the new Cyberverse series at this time (as per the current title of this thread).

I changed it to Evergreen for now since thats what the leaks and the designer is calling the designs. We will change it again with the official name from hascon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mz0G0F-QfA

So yeah, this is weird. Evergreen...?

So.....these are Cyberverse figs.... Hmm... would've preferred bigger class size figs & what's up with Grimlock's tail? has it been cut off or something?

Kurona wrote:

So yeah, this is weird. Evergreen...?

Y U NO USE YOUTUBE BRACKETS?

I didn't wanted to click on that link just to see what the video was all about, so okay then.
At least, it's not that Evergreen College madness.

Stuartmaximus wrote:So.....these are Cyberverse figs.... Hmm... would've preferred bigger class size figs & what's up with Grimlock's tail? has it been cut off or something?

The title is misleading and possibly innacurate.

We think the line is called Cyberverse, and we may be wrong about that, but they actually arent all small figures. That grimlock is delue scaled. This megatron in the image below however is more like legends scaled:



And they are both using designs called "Evergreen". That was the name used in the leaked slides that first showed the smaller megatron in the image above, along with Optimus, Bee and Starscream. It was said that only those 4 would be a smaller class, so Grimlock must be a bigger class.

Kurona, I hope that answers your question.

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:So.....these are Cyberverse figs.... Hmm... would've preferred bigger class size figs & what's up with Grimlock's tail? has it been cut off or something?

The title is misleading and possibly innacurate.

We think the line is called Cyberverse, and we may be wrong about that, but they actually arent all small figures. That grimlock is delue scaled. This megatron in the image below however is more like legends scaled:



And they are both using designs called "Evergreen". That was the name used in the leaked slides that first showed the smaller megatron in the image above, along with Optimus, Bee and Starscream. It was said that only those 4 would be a smaller class, so Grimlock must be a bigger class.

Kurona, I hope that answers your question.

Eh? you sure you've got the right picture? coz all I see is G1 Predaking + some small white fig(dunno if that's supposed to be Megs or not but certainly no sign of Bee & Prime in that pic)

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And they are both using designs called "Evergreen". That was the name used in the leaked slides that first showed the smaller megatron in the image above, along with Optimus, Bee and Starscream. It was said that only those 4 would be a smaller class, so Grimlock must be a bigger class.

Kurona, I hope that answers your question.

Eh? you sure you've got the right picture? coz all I see is G1 Predaking + some small white fig(dunno if that's supposed to be Megs or not but certainly no sign of Bee & Prime in that pic)

Small figure is indeed Megatron. As Will says:

the smaller megatron in the image above

Optimus and Bee were present in the slides that we briefly saw for a couple of days. As Will says:

the leaked slides that first showed the smaller megatron [...], along with Optimus, Bee and Starscream.

Optimus and Bee are not in the picture. They were in the slides, alongside Megatron.

Ah right, thanks

BTW this Starscream...by any chance

Jetfire & Megatron

Wrong thread, Stu.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Wrong thread, Stu.

Aye, sorry, I've just posted it in the right one, btw is that Starscream in the wrong thread too?

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Wrong thread, Stu.

Aye, sorry, I've just posted it in the right one, btw is that Starscream in the wrong thread too?

Yupyup.

Yeah there seems to be some confusing posts crossing over between the Evergreen & Cyber line threads

Stuartmaximus wrote:Yeah there seems to be some confusing posts crossing over between the Evergreen & Cyber line threads

Seems like it...it's fine though. Stuff happens.

Cyber Series and Cyberverse. It can easily get very confusing, very fast...

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Yeah there seems to be some confusing posts crossing over between the Evergreen & Cyber line threads

Seems like it...it's fine though. Stuff happens.

This suddenly felt like the Toy Haul Thread.

I know I'm late to the party, but that Grimlock is terrible, even ignoring that it's such a blatant G1 rehash. Jaw doesn't open, no weapons, poorly-designed "tech" detailing (Transmetals did it better, and that was 20 years ago! Hell, it's been done better on other G1-style Grimlocks, like the FoC version.), and tail-dragger stance all really kill any enthusiasm I could have had for it. Unless they seriously screw up PotP Grimlock, this thing is just not going to measure up.

Just to be clear, "evergreen" in marketing terms refers to a product line that reoccurs year after year. Transformers as a whole is considered an "evergreen toy line", as is Power Rangers, HotWheels, and Barbie. Referring to this new line as "evergreen" simply means either Hasbro has long term plans for it as an ongoing line or somebody is using the term wrong.

Anyway, am I the only one that looks at this:



and sees this:



He needs a shell...

Emerje

Zeedust wrote:I know I'm late to the party, but that Grimlock is terrible, even ignoring that it's such a blatant G1 rehash. Jaw doesn't open, no weapons, poorly-designed "tech" detailing (Transmetals did it better, and that was 20 years ago! Hell, it's been done better on other G1-style Grimlocks, like the FoC version.), and tail-dragger stance all really kill any enthusiasm I could have had for it. Unless they seriously screw up PotP Grimlock, this thing is just not going to measure up.

It looks cheap because it's probably meant to be for a generic dollar store line.

Sabrblade wrote:It looks cheap because it's probably meant to be for a generic dollar store line.

I hope you're right. but those don't usually get new molds, do they?

Zeedust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It looks cheap because it's probably meant to be for a generic dollar store line.

I hope you're right. but those don't usually get new molds, do they?

First time for everything.

Though, IIRC, the non-transforming 4" Titan Guardian toys from the Prime line first appeared at dollar stores before mass retail, and those were new molds at the time.

Zeedust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It looks cheap because it's probably meant to be for a generic dollar store line.

I hope you're right. but those don't usually get new molds, do they?

The entire Cyber Battalion line are new simplified molds meant to be in a budget line. And we had leaks of a line consisting of 4 figures, all new molds, meant t be a generic dollar store line too. Granted, its a relatively new development, but we have at least 2 lines made of only new molds that fit this criteria.

One more leak before the big show tomorrow. We had previously seen packaging art of upcoming G1-styled toys, like Optimus Prime and Megatron. Well now, we get a shot of the back of the packaging of the Optimus Prime toy where we see him in robot mode. There was some confusion regarding these but sicne the initial leaks, the dots have been connected. This Optimus, alonn with Megatron, Starscream and Bumblebee, are upcoming simplified toys within the Generations line. These have been labeled under the "value chain" segment of Transformers toys and feature what Hasbro calls an "Evegreen" design, designed by Emiliano Santalucia. This Optimus Prime, along with the other three mentioned earlier, will be 4.5" in robot mode and convert in 4-7 steps. This image was found on the TFCN facebook page. We will hopefully see more tomorrow so keep your eyes peeled to this site!

Looks like it has the intricate molded details of a Generations style figure and the weight of a Warrior Class figure (except the outside of the truck looks more solid).