New Possible Listings for Transformers WFC Kingdom Include Voyager Tigatron, Rhinox and More
Monday, August 17th, 2020 10:23PM CDT
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Here are the listings thought to be for the Kingdom line:
Transformers Voyager Starscream
Transformers Voyager Scourge
Transformers Voyager Cyclonus
Transformers Voyager Optimus Prime
Transformers Voyager Inferno
Transformers Voyager Rhinox
Transformers Voyager Dinobot
Transformers Voyager Tigatron
Here are additonal listings that would most probably appear in Studio Series though it is unclear which is for the 86 movie line and which is for the Bayverse:
Transformes Hot Rod
Transformers Kup
Transformers Jazz
Transformers Astrotrain
Transformers Jolt
Transformers Dino
Transformers Sideswipe
Transformers Bumblebee
Transformers Grimlock
Finally, there was also a listing for a new Masterpiece Bumblebee, all that we have is the price point of $79.90.
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Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2020 @ 10:24pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:whoops ...fixed. My son would be 100 years old though, may he live that long.Sabrblade wrote:hey, at least you got a time travel deal out of it.
I wish it to him!
Posted by Albatross250 on August 17th, 2020 @ 10:45pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 17th, 2020 @ 10:48pm CDT
Posted by megamanfan on August 17th, 2020 @ 11:41pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on August 17th, 2020 @ 11:50pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 18th, 2020 @ 2:07am CDT
What if it's actually a set with a Deluxe Tigatron and Core Airazor sold as a Voyager? It's not like the full name would necessarily be in the computer the price would be the same.
I thought it was said before that the whole point of Core Optimus Prime was to get an OP in this line, a Voyager OP totally debunks that explanation.
Emerje
Posted by Rodimus Knight on August 18th, 2020 @ 7:40am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 18th, 2020 @ 7:50am CDT
Emerje wrote:That is a ridiculous number of Voyagers, most of which don't lend themselves well to repaints/retools (aside from Prime, Inferno, and Starscream of course) it's hard to believe all of this is accurate, even if it is coming from store computers. I guess we can get a Sweep out of Scourge and maybe a Grimlock out of Dinobot, but what about Tigatron (prototype orange?), Rhinox (Fox Kids white?) and Cyclonus (lilac?). I guess they're just counting on assigning slight variations for Netflix variants.
What if it's actually a set with a Deluxe Tigatron and Core Airazor sold as a Voyager? It's not like the full name would necessarily be in the computer the price would be the same.
I thought it was said before that the whole point of Core Optimus Prime was to get an OP in this line, a Voyager OP totally debunks that explanation.
Emerje
Unless the voyager op is for the Netflix line...again
Or as the leaker suggested, is someone mixing up Prime and Primal. It wouldn't surprise me of a lot of those Voyagers end up being for adjacent lines. Will be better when we see more pics of the toys. Though I'm guessing Cyclonus is the first Kingdom toy we've seen then
Also if anyone wishes to discuss the studio Series 86 toys, head over to the Studio Series thread!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 18th, 2020 @ 9:14am CDT
As stated before, the original leaker stated somewhere that Voyager Optimus and Starscream might just be unchanged repacks of their Earthrise molds (sans Prime's trailer to sell him at the Voyager pricepoint) like how Siege Astrotrain, Rung, Smashdown, and the Battle Squad were all repacked for Earthrise.
And the latest rumors mentioned that the Core class Optimus might not be G1 Prime.
Posted by Autobot N on August 18th, 2020 @ 9:49am CDT
Scourge is definitely Studio Series. The guy who leaked all the Target listings specifically said that Cyclonus is Kingdom, since his DPCI (is that what it is?) matched up with the other Kingdom voyagers.Sabrblade wrote:Scourge and Cyclonus could still be Studio Series.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 18th, 2020 @ 10:04am CDT
Autobot N wrote:Scourge is definitely Studio Series. The guy who leaked all the Target listings specifically said that Cyclonus is Kingdom, since his DPCI (is that what it is?) matched up with the other Kingdom voyagers.Sabrblade wrote:Scourge and Cyclonus could still be Studio Series.
Indeed, Hasbro have three lines to play with next year gettihg these out: Kingdom, Netflix and Studio Series 86
Posted by TrukMunky on August 18th, 2020 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 18th, 2020 @ 3:46pm CDT
TrukMunky wrote:Hopefully this Cyclonus will pair up well with the Titans Return Scourge.
Hopefully he'll pair up well with Studio Series Scourge ('cause I don't have the other one).
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 18th, 2020 @ 3:59pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:TrukMunky wrote:Hopefully this Cyclonus will pair up well with the Titans Return Scourge.
Hopefully he'll pair up well with Studio Series Scourge ('cause I don't have the other one).
Hopefully he will pair up with the new Ultra Magnus - or the Siege version with the extra height from the third party legs. Sadly he's got no chance of standing head to head with CW Magnus.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 19th, 2020 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 20th, 2020 @ 2:20pm CDT
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/walmart-wfc-kingdom-listings.1198957/#post-18223867
In addition, leakers provided more Core Class details, as multiple of them have now seen Rattrap:
-Core figures do come with at least 1 accessory, Rattrap has his gun
-Roughly Legends height, Rattrap was compared to the Autobot clones
-Core class Starscream was accidentally confirmed by leaker (called out Screamer's null rays when talking about accessories), meaning we now know have the full breakdown of the 6 Core figures Target says we're getting (Rattrap, OP, Megatron, Starscream, 2 Fossilizers)
-Articulation is slightly better than Legends class figures in bot mode, but leaker feels Rattrap is missing paint and rat mode has less articulation that T30 Deluxe
-Core G1 Megatron is still a tank, but comes with a pistol based on his G1 alt mode that forms the front part of his tank cannon
-G1 Prime has "his weapon", wasn't specified what it is (gun vs ax)
Also Warpath apparently has a shield of some kind, everyone's favorite.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:07pm CDT
We have listings for three Deluxes as well, Cheetor, Warpath and Blackarachnia.
There was also several notes, like Warpath having a shield made up of part of his alt mode, and that Core Class will at least come with one accessory.
Also, Nemesis Primal rounded up several other rumours related to these:
Nemesis Primal wrote:In addition, leakers provided more Core Class details, as multiple of them have now seen Rattrap:
-Core figures do come with at least 1 accessory, Rattrap has his gun
-Roughly Legends height, Rattrap was compared to the Autobot clones
-Core class Starscream was accidentally confirmed by leaker (called out Screamer's null rays when talking about accessories), meaning we now know have the full breakdown of the 6 Core figures Target says we're getting (Rattrap, OP, Megatron, Starscream, 2 Fossilizers)
-Articulation is slightly better than Legends class figures in bot mode, but leaker feels Rattrap is missing paint and rat mode has less articulation that T30 Deluxe
-Core G1 Megatron is still a tank, but comes with a pistol based on his G1 alt mode that forms the front part of his tank cannon
-G1 Prime has "his weapon", wasn't specified what it is (gun vs ax)
Also Warpath apparently has a shield of some kind, everyone's favorite.
What do you think of these listings? Are you excited to see what Kingdom brings to the table? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:18pm CDT
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:22pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:23pm CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:32pm CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:One thing I realized: has anyone found it odd that Jazz didn't get a WFC figure yet while everyone else from the Ark crew did? I guess that justifies having him in the SS86 line even though he did very little in that film.
If memory serves, Jazz was also the only member of the Ark crew who got a figure in the line immediately preceding WfC, PotP. I'm not including Inferno, who didn't resemble the G1 design ... and also wasn't on the Ark. Minibots also excluded, since most of those haven't been in WfC.
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:34pm CDT
But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:37pm CDT
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.
My feelings exactly.
Posted by Flashwave on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:39pm CDT
I suspect Warpath is going to be another one like Cliffjumper. In fact, the Transformations could be very similar. That will probably be a fun toy, but so far, just as Cliffjumper has not replaced his GDO figure on my shelf despite me liking it, I doubt Warpath will take the place of his Generations self.
Posted by Autobot N on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:40pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:41pm CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by Rtron on August 20th, 2020 @ 3:48pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:00pm CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:One thing I realized: has anyone found it odd that Jazz didn't get a WFC figure yet while everyone else from the Ark crew did? I guess that justifies having him in the SS86 line even though he did very little in that film.
Hauler didnt get a figure either tho I can always use ER Grapple as one and the Classics as the other, unless selects gets a green version at some point.
Posted by Emerje on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:01pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:I want a minibot-scale G1 Warpath, so I think the Kingdom one will be perfect for me. Generations Warpath is too big, the CW one is too small, and neither of them have the right tank or robot design.
I doubt that's what you'll be getting here. WfC going for cartoon bot scale means a normal sized bot mode for Warpath like on the cartoon. I imagine the mentioned shield is to fill out the front of the tank mode between his feet.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:11pm CDT
The reveals this time are based around the Voyager and Leader Class figures. As well as confirming that we're getting Optimus Primal in Voyager, we're also set to get a repack of Leader Class Optimus Prime (presumably Earthrise version). More excitingly though, is the confirmation of Leader Class Beast Wars Megatron!
Here is the listings as revealed by Jtprime17:
TRA Gen WFC K Core AST
EAN: 5010993767038
TRA Gen WFC K Voyager AST
EAN: 5010993767052
TRA Gen WFC K Leader AST
EAN: 5010993767076
Tra Gen WFC K leader Optimus Prime PR
EAN: 5010993767021
(note “PR” stands for package refresh so this is most likely Earthrise Optimus in Kingdom Packaging)
Tra Gen WFC K voyager Cyclonus
EAN:5010993767014
Tra Gen WFC K voyager Optimus Primal
EAN: 5010993766987
Tra Gen WFC K leader Trex Megatron
EAN: 5010993766970
What do you think of this set of listings? Want to see a new Generation of Primal and BW Megs to square off? Let us knlw in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:17pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:37pm CDT
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:Okay. I know I said back when this thing started that I didn't need a new CHUG Sideswipe, or Hound, or Wheeljack. And I bought all of those.
But it's going to take a borderline miracle for them to top Generations Warpath.
Great point...
I can understand if anyone thinks the Datsun bros, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee, Grapple, etc. are better versions... I think most of the ER versions are better in some ways then what we've previously had in the CHUG lines.
But Generations Warpath is really an excellent figure... And for those who hate the parts-forming,
I don't see how this version can be better.
Posted by Starseeker on August 20th, 2020 @ 4:57pm CDT
Yessssssss!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 20th, 2020 @ 5:01pm CDT
Posted by SkyFire Prime on August 20th, 2020 @ 5:11pm CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on August 20th, 2020 @ 5:18pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 20th, 2020 @ 5:18pm CDT
SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.
If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 20th, 2020 @ 5:43pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.
If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.
Why is everyone convinced this is true? In scenes with Hoist, he's about as tall as Hoist. In scenes with other minibots, he's the same size that they are. Neither size is any more accurate than the other, the cartoon scaling was just terrible.
Posted by sol magnus on August 20th, 2020 @ 6:01pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:sol magnus wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:Gen Leader Warpath was good but this one will probably cartoon accurate and small like Cliffjumper. I'm excited.
If he is going to be accurate, he'll be Hoist sized.
Why is everyone convinced this is true? In scenes with Hoist, he's about as tall as Hoist. In scenes with other minibots, he's the same size that they are. Neither size is any more accurate than the other, the cartoon scaling was just terrible.
Really? I just finished watching several Season 2 Episodes. He was never shown as 'mini-bot' sized. In the episode I'm mainly referring to "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", he was actually taller than Hoist. In Hoist goes Hollywood, it was pretty much the same thing. He was at least as tall as the 'Autobot Cars.' I guess they figured he was a tank, so he couldn't be but so small. I dunno, ask Sunbow.
In the Marvel series, he was more in line with 'minibot' scale as a robot, though.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 20th, 2020 @ 6:05pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 20th, 2020 @ 6:12pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
I'm not on Season 3 yet. But, really, Season 3 is where the scale goes out the window.
I'm not sure what the strident opposition is about. The 'Masterpiece' Warpaths that have been made 3P have more supported the Hoist sized Warpath.
I'm curious as to which way Hasbro will go, but it's not going to be a dealbreaker for me if he's Brawn sized or whatever.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 20th, 2020 @ 6:27pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 20th, 2020 @ 6:51pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2020 @ 7:30pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on August 20th, 2020 @ 7:37pm CDT
Which lends more credence to the theory that the Walmart listing is for Optimus Primal, not Optimus Prime, and that it's just misspelled.william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom
Posted by SkyFire Prime on August 20th, 2020 @ 8:17pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom
You are aware of just that in Netflix
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2020 @ 10:15pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:Not as exciting, but here's the Deluxe AST that was missing from the last two posts
From what I undertand, that isn't an actual figure, just a listing for the general assortment. More of an internal thing for Walmart, not really for us.
Autobot N wrote:Which lends more credence to the theory that the Walmart listing is for Optimus Primal, not Optimus Prime, and that it's just misspelled.william-james88 wrote:I guess this removes the idea of trailerless earthrise prime releases aa a voyager in Kingdom
You mean the Target listing. This Walmart listing is spelt correctly.
Anywyaus, Earthrise Optimus being rereleased makes sense since that's the toy we see on the Kingdom Artwork.