New Pictures of 25th Prime and Classics revealed at BotCon!

YES! YES! YES! I knew Ironhide would see a Classics/Universe release eventually. To hell with Hasbro's claim of Animated characters not being released as Classics; this proves that Hasbro is willing to break their word to appease fans (I just hope the same goes for the Botcon Seekers). I'm disappointed with Sideswipe. I was hoping Hasbro would replace Sunstreaker's engine block with an spring-loaded shoulder cannon. He even has Sunstreaker's head! It's Classics Cliffjumper all over again. Oh well, at least we have Bluestreak who can transform into Silverbolt. Isn't that something?

What's with the Autobot symbol thing with that Prime?

I would imagine it's a stand, but it looks really thick.

Prime and Ironhide are a must for me, but I'm a little disapointed with Siverbolt's robot mode, and I'm not much of a fan of Ironhide or Sideswipe. Very nice figures still.

Hot diggity! Ironhide, is awesome.

Hopefully Sideswipes head will be tweaked to where the ears are removed or kept inside the head permanently.

The Autobot shield is an electronic box with voices and phrases.

They basically took G2 Prime and redid him back to G1 Prime.

Damn those look fantastic! I'm so glad they colored the top part of Sideswipes chest black. Bluestreak looks amazing, Ironhide looks amazing, Silverbolt looks amazing!

I really hope they put up pictures of Cyclonus and Hound.

I knew they would do a Hound!

Senor Hugo wrote:Hot diggity! Ironhide, is awesome.

Hopefully Sideswipes head will be tweaked to where the ears are removed or kept inside the head permanently.

There is a Sideswipe with a correct head in the cabinets at Botcon (see tformers gallery) I assume the finished version will have a rocket launcher too - it'd be a shame if he didn't

I knew they would do a Hound!

Two Hounds - there's a legends one too!!

Autobot Jazz wrote:Prime and Ironhide are a must for me [...] I'm not much of a fan of Ironhide or Sideswipe.

Idiot.

Oooh... 25th Prime... I may have to get that. My parents should still have my original G1 Prime in their loft, but it's broken (well used when I still played with toys ), so I'd like a new one to display.

I think it's a bit odd that Sideswipe still comes with the engine and the ears, but I can always pretend it doesn't

Silverstreak's bot mode looks suspiciously like Silverbolt's. You'd think Hasbro would get their own site right

Ironhide's alt mode seems to be full of joins, so is very messy

Those all look great, that Silverstreak looks way better than Prowl.

I'm sad Sideswipe has no shoulder cannon.

Wish they'd post pics of the others...

Holy cow...Ironhide has a few lines showing...maybe they are age lines?

Counting down to Smokescreen repaint...

Honestly, I'd hoped they'd come up with something better for the 25th. I'll get all of them...including this new Seeker repaint Acid Storm...but ironhide is probably staying in robot mode. You suppose they can do that mold as Rathet too?

Love that 25th Anni OP! That Autobot Shield that has sounds and phrases intrigues me. They better use Peter Cullen's voice.

Rodentus Prime wrote:There is a Sideswipe with a correct head in the cabinets at Botcon (see tformers gallery) I assume the finished version will have a rocket launcher too - it'd be a shame if he didn't

Link? I can't seem to find it.

awesomeness. that means i dont have to buy encore convoy. i wonder if prime's trailer will be able to launch roller . cant wait for ironhide. BLUEstreak looks meh. i hope sideswipe will get a new head mold.

These are BEAUTIFUL

Ironhide looks way superior to the Botcon exclusive did

I don't care about the repaints but wished Sideswipes head was different

....and Silverbolt has his old G1 face

Glitcher wrote:

Autobot Jazz wrote:Prime and Ironhide are a must for me [...] I'm not much of a fan of Ironhide or Sideswipe.

Idiot.

Pest.

It'd be nice if people around here would just quit all of the name calling and finger pointing, its just not called for.

Glitcher wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:I knew they would do a Hound!

Rodentus Prime wrote:There is a Sideswipe with a correct head in the cabinets at Botcon (see tformers gallery) I assume the finished version will have a rocket launcher too - it'd be a shame if he didn't

Links? I can't find Hound or the alternate Sideswipe head.

Tformers Gallery

I expect Seibertron will have the pics up soon.

Glitcher wrote:

Autobot Jazz wrote:Prime and Ironhide are a must for me [...] I'm not much of a fan of Ironhide or Sideswipe.

Idiot.

What is your deal? That's two or three posts of your's that are considered flame bait. Seriously, get over yourself.



Back on topic...

Hasbro has really outdone themselves in design department this time 'round.

Sideswipe is proof that you can take a crappy mold, slap on a nice paint job and make it look buy worthy.

Ultra Magnus is not only made of win, but he pwns souls with his hammer of awesome.

Ironhide was something out of left field, but welcome nonetheless. Great vehicle and robot modes, even though he's all...panel-y. (Granted, I realize he's a proto in the pics.)

Silverbolt just gets better and better with each viewing.

Bluestreak (I refuse to call him anything but his G1 name) is handled quite nicely. It's great to see G1 done the *right* way.

Sentinel Prime comes with his sword and shield...pure, unbridled joy.

Swoop...looks like he just climbed out of the screen. These Dinobots get better in plastic. (too bad their 'toon counterparts aren't too terribly great.)

25th. Prime...eh, not so much. Although I do like the idea of the digitally remastered MTMTE pilot. Still...$70.00 just for me to get the DVD...no. hope the rest of you enjoy him.

I want Animated sooooo bad.

FRAKIN SWEET DUDE! I WANT THEM NOW!

So far, Streak is my favorite.

yup these pics were on tformers

Something kept nagging the back of my mind about the four military minicons in the twelve pack, and I finally figured out what it was!

They're GIJoe homages!

Specifically, the A-10 is supposed to look like a Cobra Rattler, and the M1 is supposed to look like a Crimson Guard tank!

Neat!

Can't wait for Prime... but Ironhide's alt mode looks like Sh!t. Damn, could he be any more broken up and messy. I've really got to see all these in person before I decide which to get.

I'm sorry everyone, I gotta go against the grain here and say that the new Classics stuff looks bloody awful.

Ironhide looks like he blew up in a million pieces and someone tried to glue him back together and Silverbolt looks just as ugly as he did in the 1980s. He's not a transformers, he's just a robot hidden under a jet.

And already with the friggin' repaints. There are more repaints in this line that actual new molds, and the line hasn't even been released yet!

I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!," but I'm really disappointed in the direction this franchise is taking. If it weren't for TF Animated and my Beast Wars DVDs, I probably would have completely abandonned this franchise by now.

All I can say is—YEE HAH!

Judging from the pictures the news crew or Ryan uploaded, it looks like I can finally get the Voyager Cybertron SS mold as Dirge, and an updated Classics Springer! I am one happy fella!

I just hope that the Springer, Ratbat two-pack isn't ultra rare. I'll be watching my Target like a hawk when it comes out.

springer? ratbat? where?

Silverstreak: Looks good. A redeco and a slight retool he may be, but so was the original, and so far, the eldest and hardcore of fans use that as their measuring stick for toys. I could pick up both Prowl and him.

Sideswipe: I can only hope that photo was the incorect one. If they were going to retool the head and engines, then I'd be interested. Otherwise, it's just a red Sunstreaker.

Ironhide: Both modes are just ok for me. Nothing too special. I just hope that if a Ratchet retool was made, that it looks a bit mor einteresting.

Silverbolt: Wearing your alternate mode? Pfft.

This is the first time I'm excited for an Ironhide figure.

All of them look sweet...
It does look like there are holes on the shoulders of Sideswipe.
I'd assume he'll get those weapons...
Hopefully.

MUST
HAVE
ALL

but wait.... a little ravage and ratbat? and they transform into cassetts... and fit in soundwave? thats altra badass! but... does that mean there is a posibility of a REAL classics Soundwave, and not just the reissue?

shadowsfm wrote:springer? ratbat? where?

Check the link on the front page, it should take you to a gallery with the new Universe figres. On the last page there is a pic of Ratbat (Cyb Sideways) and Springer (Cyb Evac).

There is also another repaint of last year's Springer Exclusive, but I don't know who that is supposed to be.

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!,"

It won't, and I actually appreciate fans who can criticise despite others' expectations. (I just wish others felt the same way about my criticism.) I see what you mean about Ironhide, but even a pessimist like me is willing to bet that all the bits and pieces aren't pressed together properly. Hey, it wouldn't be the first time Hasbro has mistransformed its products. And once you see Hound and Cyclonus, I'm sure your fears about repaints will vanish.

I like the new Universe (classics) figures shown here quite a bit. I hope they change Sideswipe's "ears", but I can live with them like that. I don't know why, but he looks a lot better to me than Sunstreaker. Maybe it's just the colour because they're pretty close.

I was kind of let down with the last pics we seen of universe. Especially Galvatron. He's one of my favourite characters and I was hoping for something on par with Energon Galvatron (at least big). I don't hate the figure and will get it, but he oculd have been more. I didn't really care much for Powerglide or Blaster being a straight Soundwave repaint. Overall the last set of pics felt to me a little uninspired. This set of pics looks a little more inspired. Ironhide and Silverbolt look pretty cool to me.

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!,"

I'm a bit more mixed on the current Classics/Universe stuff that I was about Classics 1.0. Some figures I'm definitely going to get. (Especially the G1 Optimus, because although I've still got the G2 Optimus [mostly] I'd really like to have a complete G1 Optimus, even if I end up keeping it MISB, like I would Star Convoy if I buy the sealed carton from Action HQ.) Sunstreaker and Side Swipe I can get...looking forward to Galvatron, Tankor and Targetmaster Cyclonus... Most others the jury's still out on whether or not I'd actually buy or pass. I'll only know when I actually see them...

Oh man! My wallet is going to hurt. These look awesome. I have to gat all of these especially Prime.

WOW IRONHIDE!

This is probably the biggest Transformers moment of the last 25 years!

Someone has probably asked this already, but will Silverbolt be able to combine with future Aerialbots perhaps?

Silver/Bluestreak and Silverbolt don't impress me much, but Ironhide will be mine for sure.

I really like Silverbolt's design. The coloring and mold are pretty cool. I like how they have tried to make jet intakes under the fuselage. I hate it when lots of parts are hanging under a plane's fuselage or wings. He'll be really big though.

I'm glad Ironhide is getting some deserved love. Sideswipe definitely needs a retooled head though.

Hmm Silverbolt is good. Silverstreak is good. 25th Prime and Sideswipe(though Im praying he'll have a retooled head on final release) are great. But as for Ironhide...I can't get over the fact that his vehicle mode is so ugly. Robot mode is decent though.

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I gotta go against the grain here and say that the new Classics stuff looks bloody awful.

Ironhide looks like he blew up in a million pieces and someone tried to glue him back together and Silverbolt looks just as ugly as he did in the 1980s. He's not a transformer, he's just a robot hidden under a jet.

That's a very apt way of summing up what's wrong with Silverbolt. I was disappointed yesterday, when I saw all the endless repaints, but some of this new stuff they've just shown and announced is alright.

I've certainly bought much worse than that Ironhide in the past. I don't like him being an SUV, but using the rear window for the chest is kinda clever, and maybe the panel cracks won't look so prominent in better lighting.

My main bone of contention is that they're still not moving forward with new combiner gestalts. What they're doing with all the repaints does bother me, I mean I'd been hoping for a decent Springer redo rather than yet another repaint. I know people say repaints help justify the expense, but the whole line is starting to feel very watered down.

Though it's a pleasant surprise to see that the legends line isn't going to be all repaints after all.

Wonder if we'll see Silverbolt repainted as Whisper?

Hasbro's been really big on the Micromaster homages lately (WMX Movie Big Daddy & Grindcore, Movie Mudflap, Universe Heavyload, Universe Stormcloud, the Universe repaint of Scattorshot, etc.)

JesWal wrote:Hmm Silverbolt is good. Silverstreak is good. 25th Prime and Sideswipe(though Im praying he'll have a retooled head on final release) are great.

Yeah, I'd been thinking about that toon-accurate retooled headsculpt. What's that on, Ipod Convoy or something?

In a way that'd be nice to have, but I almost think I prefer the original. I guess they might as well go for it. I already have G2 Prime, and my original junked G1 figure.

whooo hooo

finally ironhide is back and ready to rumble

bring on rachet

Getting the 25th "Re-Encore Reissue" Prime for sure, can't get enough of different releases of G1 Prime. Wish it were November already!

Glitcher wrote:

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!,"

It won't, and I actually appreciate fans who can criticise despite others' expectations. (I just wish others felt the same way about my criticism.)

I wish every time I step foot into an Animated thread I wouldn’t feel like there’s a barrage of riflemen aiming their guns at me… yeah I agree.

And I at least am fine with your criticism, its just when you start calling people “idiot” and so on fourth it becomes name calling rather than criticizing.

Nekoman wrote:And I at least am fine with your criticism, its just when you start calling people “idiot” and so on fourth it becomes name calling rather than criticizing.

I was just taking the piss. I realize he miswrote Bluestreak as Ironhide. Of course, the mods have no sense of humour.

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I gotta go against the grain here and say that the new Classics stuff looks bloody awful.

Ironhide looks like he blew up in a million pieces and someone tried to glue him back together and Silverbolt looks just as ugly as he did in the 1980s. He's not a transformers, he's just a robot hidden under a jet.

And already with the friggin' repaints. There are more repaints in this line that actual new molds, and the line hasn't even been released yet!

I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!," but I'm really disappointed in the direction this franchise is taking. If it weren't for TF Animated and my Beast Wars DVDs, I probably would have completely abandonned this franchise by now.

While I respect your opinion Skowl, I am curious what direction exactly would you have liked Universe to take?
We all new where they were headed, and what there point was going to be. Still Universe is still a secondary line to Animated. Animated is supposed to be the main one.

And I find your points valid. I agree with them Silverbolt is a really cheap design. Ironhide's design I like, but I agree his alt mode looks like its been pieced together a bit too much.
Probably mistransformed but you never know.

As for Repaints well this is Universe its going to have repaints.
some are good some are bad. But we are getting very cool new molds in the mix also. I just don't see repaints as a problems, its a way for Hasbro to make money off of their molds, and I know I don't have to buy them if I don't like them.

whooo hooo

finally ironhide is back and ready to rumble

bring on rachet

You know, one thing I didn't realize until now is that Ironhide's chest is actually the rear of the vehicle instead of the front. That's thinking outside the box, Hasbro. It reminds me of the intuition they demonstrated in reversing Grimlock's dinosaur parts in robot mode.

On the subject, can car nuts identify which vehicle Ironhide transforms into?

Overcracker wrote:

Skowl wrote:I'm sorry everyone, I gotta go against the grain here and say that the new Classics stuff looks bloody awful.

Ironhide looks like he blew up in a million pieces and someone tried to glue him back together and Silverbolt looks just as ugly as he did in the 1980s. He's not a transformers, he's just a robot hidden under a jet.

And already with the friggin' repaints. There are more repaints in this line that actual new molds, and the line hasn't even been released yet!

I'm sorry everyone, I just can't get excited about this stuff anymore. I know my negative comments will just get lost in the sea of fans' "zomg G1 stuff again this ownz!," but I'm really disappointed in the direction this franchise is taking. If it weren't for TF Animated and my Beast Wars DVDs, I probably would have completely abandonned this franchise by now.

While I respect your opinion Skowl, I am curious what direction exactly would you have liked Universe to take?

Honestly, if it were up to me, there would be no Universe/Classics line at all.

And I was Gonna import MP whatever...

Wait sorry, it's just another G1 reissue, with some stand deal!?!

I like alot of the new classics molds, the fact that repaints are planned before the initial release is expected, but still depressing. Probably gonna pass on SideSwipe on principal alone.

Realy, would it have killed them to retool the head!

Liege Evilmus wrote:And I was Gonna import MP whatever...

I like alot of the new classics molds, the fact that repaints are planned before the initial release is expected, but still depressing. Probably gonna pass on SideSwipe on principal alone.

Realy, would it have killed them to retool the head!

It is retooled:



Or at least it looks retooled to me.