New Official Images: Transformers Generations IDW Style Deluxe Series 4

Who was it that said the minicons might be the Ammonites? Good call, yo. Good call.

But man...I really hope Hasbro gives us a Scrapper redeco/retool of Scoop. I already have a stand-in for Scoop in my Wreckers, but I gots ta have mah favs Constructicon.

That Scoop looks fun as Hell.

Mkall wrote:That Scoop looks fun as Hell.

Quite fun. Double Targetmaster goodness. Out of this wave, I need him and Skywarp.

Scoop looks better in-package than in the stock photos.

Im not digging the "go go gadget copter" on the Minicons combined mode. What faction are they anyway ? It's not like theyre homages to any of the Armada minicons who were neutral. Scoop looks awesome. Starscream looks better with Takara paint. And I guess Skywarp is cool so you can make the Takara version a Rainmaker. I wouldnt mind getting Acid Storm and Sunstorm in that mold too.

arent they going to do more wreckers? i remember seeing a picture of a voyager size whirl

I was thinking of doing something fun for my (eventual) Seekers display. Change up the molds for each of the 3:

Generations Armada Starscream
Fenerations FOC Thundercracker
TF: Prime Dark Energon Starscream (as Skywarp)

As it is, I kind of wish they gave FOC Skywarp the same treatment as the Prime Dark Energon version, but what can you do.

Every single one of these. Bought. No questions asked.

Especially that Armada Starscream.

Very cool. I'm loving the designs of all 4 and they shall all be added to my collection but I'm very curious as to how Scoop (and the mini-con team) warrants enough importance to be added to the Generations line when there are so many other characters that have not been given decent attention. Their designs are great, I have to give them that but I still think the resources could have gone to other figures and designs.
Also, while Starscream does look cool in his re-hashed attire, I think that was one design that didn't translate quite as beautifully in the smaller size as it does in the larger versions. Won't stop me from getting it but it's not looking quite as cool as the earlier promo shots made it appear.

I'm curious about the pack-in comics more so than the figures themselves since, excluding Skywarp, they all look to be utterly puny. The labeling for Screamer specifically notes "Armada Starscream" so does that mean there will be a newly made comic for him set in the Armada universe, will it just re-hash an old Dreamwave issue, or will it just be a relabeled Dark Cybertron comic?

Shadowstream wrote:The labeling for Screamer specifically notes "Armada Starscream" so does that mean there will be a newly made comic for him set in the Armada universe, will it just re-hash an old Dreamwave issue, or will it just be a relabeled Dark Cybertron comic?

It's an issue of Dark Cybertron, since Starscream will be rebuilt into this body. They probably labeled him "Armada Starscream" because that'll be the second third Starscream in the Generations line.

Ultra Markus wrote:arent they going to do more wreckers? i remember seeing a picture of a voyager size whirl

Hold your horses, he's coming. He's predicted to be released during the first quarter of 2014.

Awesome. Scoop looks amazing and I will love to finally have a complete seeker set.

Rated X wrote:Im not digging the "go go gadget copter" on the Minicons combined mode. What faction are they anyway ? It's not like theyre homages to any of the Armada minicons who were neutral.

Actually, they seem to be based on another race of diminutive robots in the IDW comics, divided between Ammonites and Terradores. The three belong to the evil Ammonites, and thus would likely be labeled Decepticons in other lines. And this confirms Hasbro will slap "Mini-Con" on any small robot.

The Ammonites look a little worse in this image than in previous ones, but I'm still intrigued..

ahhh yeah cat wait to get these guys. more and more awesome generations guys. MORE

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Im not digging the "go go gadget copter" on the Minicons combined mode. What faction are they anyway ? It's not like theyre homages to any of the Armada minicons who were neutral.

Actually, they seem to be based on another race of diminutive robots in the IDW comics, divided between Ammonites and Terradores. The three belong to the evil Ammonites, and thus would likely be labeled Decepticons in other lines. And this confirms Hasbro will slap "Mini-Con" on any small robot.

It never fails. I'm on the cusp of getting a thorough Minicon faction, and Hasbro steps in to further complicate matters.

Mindmaster wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:The labeling for Screamer specifically notes "Armada Starscream" so does that mean there will be a newly made comic for him set in the Armada universe, will it just re-hash an old Dreamwave issue, or will it just be a relabeled Dark Cybertron comic?

It's an issue of Dark Cybertron, since Starscream will be rebuilt into this body. They probably labeled him "Armada Starscream" because that'll be the second third Starscream in the Generations line.

Well that's intensely disappointing, as I would rather not associate the IDW/G1 version of the character with the Armada/UT version... especially when it's got "Armada" printed all over the package

Shadowstream wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Shadowstream wrote:The labeling for Screamer specifically notes "Armada Starscream" so does that mean there will be a newly made comic for him set in the Armada universe, will it just re-hash an old Dreamwave issue, or will it just be a relabeled Dark Cybertron comic?

It's an issue of Dark Cybertron, since Starscream will be rebuilt into this body. They probably labeled him "Armada Starscream" because that'll be the second third Starscream in the Generations line.

Well that's intensely disappointing, as I would rather not associate the IDW/G1 version of the character with the Armada/UT version... especially when it's got "Armada" printed all over the package

Well, it's not like he's going to be renamed "Armada Starscream" post plastic (metal?) surgery.

It looks as if Armada Starscream is a little smaller than the FOC Seeker. It's what I was anticipating, but its a real bummer. A Voyager version would've been best and the FOC Seeker is as small as I could accept. Yet, I can't just pass him up.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote: And this confirms Hasbro will slap "Mini-Con" on any small robot.

I'm not following your logic. Small transforming robot, check. 5mm peghole with center post? check. Diamond faction logo? bingo. Its a minicon. (Or did you mean Scoop's targetmaster guys?) If anything, I think Hasbro is doing a reverse-repurposing of the figures, or something better called a generization of the figure to be whoever the heck-they want them to be. Of course IDW is gonna reuse them as Ammonites, because they'republishing a 12part Christmas Gift Catalog for Hasbro. but theseare signed up as actual Minicons because that's what they are meant to be.

And personally, I like 'em. Perceptor can go eat dirt, these guys look like they have KNEES!

Scoop looks great, but I wanna see what Takara does with him first before I bite.

Skywarp looks like ass compared to the Takara version which I already have, so they can keep it. I mean seriously, you can't tell me that this looks better...



...than this:



No use for the minicon combiner, particularly since its limbs look jacked.

That Starscream mold doesn't do anything for me at all. I don't think even a Takara paint job could save it, but we'll see I guess.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Who was it that said the minicons might be the Ammonites? Good call, yo. Good call.

*raises hand* I believe that was me.

Flashwave wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote: And this confirms Hasbro will slap "Mini-Con" on any small robot.

I'm not following your logic. Small transforming robot, check. 5mm peghole with center post? check. Diamond faction logo? bingo. Its a minicon. (Or did you mean Scoop's targetmaster guys?) If anything, I think Hasbro is doing a reverse-repurposing of the figures, or something better called a generization of the figure to be whoever the heck-they want them to be. Of course IDW is gonna reuse them as Ammonites, because they'republishing a 12part Christmas Gift Catalog for Hasbro. but theseare signed up as actual Minicons because that's what they are meant to be.

And personally, I like 'em. Perceptor can go eat dirt, these guys look like they have KNEES!

They called Cyclonus' Nightstick a Mini-Con once. 'Nuff said.

Mindmaster wrote:Every single one of these. Bought. No questions asked.

Especially that Armada Starscream.

He is sex on legs.

xyl360 wrote:Skywarp looks like ass compared to the Takara version which I already have, so they can keep it.
...than this:

Yeah I can say I like the Hasbro Version better than takara's. Yes the paint job on Takara's better, but it dosen't look like skywarp, just a generic. The hasbro one, despite the dull gray plastic, it at least looks like skywarp.

Though my favorite Skywarp is still the original Universe one

Money saved yet again . That starscream look cheap actually he looks terrible , the only thing i'm interested in is if those minicons form a really solid figure other than that just give me that whirl , skids and waspinator .

I'm sorry, but this Starscream looks like a Scout in size, build, and complexity.

megatronus wrote:I'm sorry, but this Starscream looks like a Scout in size, build, and complexity.

The original Armada Starscream was incredibly simple but still an amazing figure.

Not really interested in anything other than Skywarp. Scoop looks great though.

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:I'm sorry, but this Starscream looks like a Scout in size, build, and complexity.

The original Armada Starscream was incredibly simple but still an amazing figure.

They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

Nice one, Hasbro. Couldn't bother to actually give names to the individual "Mini-Con Assault Team" members, eh?

I'm genuinely surprised that they're calling him "Armada Starscream" instead of just "Starscream". I get that it might be to differentiate it from the last "Starscream" toy, but still. I'm now very curious as to what type of bio he might have, but I think it's safe to guess that it might be like Waspinator's in being an ambiguously-written bio that fits both his Armada self and that of IDW G1 Starscream as he currently is.

Rated X wrote:Im not digging the "go go gadget copter" on the Minicons combined mode.

Fear not, my friend, for that rotor is mistransformed in these pics. It's supposed to fold in to make horizontal horns instead.

megatronus wrote:They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

I never said anything about the size, just the simplicity.

Hasbro scaling down TF's is out of my control. What can I do about it? I have much more important issues in life to deal with really. (That's not a jab at anyone either, just my stance on the matter)

I just noticed Scoop needs to hide his head better. @xyl360, some of us prefer Skywarp's original color scheme of black and purple, not overly applied metallic purple and gunmetal.

Now, bring on those mini-cons!

Those Mini-Cons will look great with PCC Bombshock, methinks. And they'd be perfect rivals for Prime Abominus.

I'm FINALLY going to have a complete Starscream, ThunderHonkey and Skywarp seeker team without having to shell out untold amounts of money?!

ITS ABOUT FLIPPING TIME!

Also Scoop and the Minicons look pretty cool, Armada Starscream...meh....I absolutely loathed Armada after the first episode.

maybe this armada starscream shares the same bio as the one from Robots in Disguise #23

Gorechyld wrote:Armada Starscream...meh....I absolutely loathed Armada after the first episode.

What about the Armada comics? Those were infinitely better than the cartoon.

And, this Starscream isn't exactly the Armada character, rather, it's the IDW G1 Starscream having been given a new body upgrade to go with his new position as the leader of all of Cybertron.

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

I never said anything about the size, just the simplicity.

Hasbro scaling down TF's is out of my control. What can I do about it? I have much more important issues in life to deal with really. (That's not a jab at anyone either, just my stance on the matter)

No one said you have to "deal with it" as in come up with a solution, but a defeatist attitude doesn't do anything, either (arguably less).

Grr i going to stop buying these and stay with masterpiece collecting!!! Grrr!! sigh... i must have them all...

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

I never said anything about the size, just the simplicity.

Hasbro scaling down TF's is out of my control. What can I do about it? I have much more important issues in life to deal with really. (That's not a jab at anyone either, just my stance on the matter)

No one said you have to "deal with it" as in come up with a solution, but a defeatist attitude doesn't do anything, either (arguably less).

How is it a defeatist attitude? It's more prioritizing. I just have much better things to expend my time and energy on than getting upset over the size of a toy.

Armada (DW Comic) G1 Galvatron, (cause the 1st was a disappointment).

Or

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... oduct.html

Eventually I will purchase all of IDW. Though I still haven't fully recovered from the DW 2006 cliff hanger...

This is the first time I'm noticing the kibble between the legs of the two Targetmasters. Can't say I'm a fan of it.

I'm very surprised by Starscream's official designation of 'Armada' Starscream, and wonder if they'll be explaining that one in the fiction.

I'll probably be quite happy getting all four moulds. As always the only question will be Hasbro or Takara?

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

I never said anything about the size, just the simplicity.

Hasbro scaling down TF's is out of my control. What can I do about it? I have much more important issues in life to deal with really. (That's not a jab at anyone either, just my stance on the matter)

No one said you have to "deal with it" as in come up with a solution, but a defeatist attitude doesn't do anything, either (arguably less).

How is it a defeatist attitude? It's more prioritizing. I just have much better things to expend my time and energy on than getting upset over the size of a toy.

So why take the time to reply to me on a topic you don't have the time to deal with?

I'm not terribly upset. I'm not home throwing a temper tantrum. But I can be somewhat annoyed and air that grievance.

I have to say, while I'm not going to be getting Scoop due to the number of other incoming Generations figures I would prefer, they did seem to do a pretty solid job with him.

Also, I do hope that they give the Mini-cons individual names.

Sodan-1 wrote:I'm very surprised by Starscream's official designation of 'Armada' Starscream, and wonder if they'll be explaining that one in the fiction.

It's just a suffix like "Freeway Jazz", "Stealth Bumblebee", "Recon Barricade", etc. to differentiate this toy from the previous Generations "Starscream" toy. It also just happens to be a double-pun that calls back to the toyline of this toy's inspiration.

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:They are similar, but you really don't have a problem with the new Screamer being smaller than the FOC deluxe?

I never said anything about the size, just the simplicity.

Hasbro scaling down TF's is out of my control. What can I do about it? I have much more important issues in life to deal with really. (That's not a jab at anyone either, just my stance on the matter)

No one said you have to "deal with it" as in come up with a solution, but a defeatist attitude doesn't do anything, either (arguably less).

How is it a defeatist attitude? It's more prioritizing. I just have much better things to expend my time and energy on than getting upset over the size of a toy.

So why take the time to reply to me on a topic you don't have the time to deal with?

I'm not terribly upset. I'm not home throwing a temper tantrum. But I can be somewhat annoyed and air that grievance.

When did I say I didn't have time for the topic? I never said that at all. I already posted that I liked Starscream and really can't wait to get him.

Burn and megatronus wrote:stuff

And why do we like Starscream, you might ask, megatronus general public?

Because he's sex on legs. Simple as that.

Mindmaster wrote:

Burn and megatronus wrote:stuff

And why do we like Starscream, you might ask, megatronus general public?

Because he's sex on legs. Simple as that.

I like this Starscream design, too. Really like it, in fact. But the simplicity and size is bothersome to me. That's all.

Is that really beyond the pale?