New Netflix Transformers Voyager class Sightings and Listings

Interesting to see that the characters renamed for Titans Return now have their original names back. I wonder if it was ever actually about trademark or they just wanted to tone them down a bit...

King Kuuga wrote:Interesting to see that the characters renamed for Titans Return now have their original names back. I wonder if it was ever actually about trademark or they just wanted to tone them down a bit...

Trademark situations can change at the drop of a hat. And listings aren't a good indicator of what the final name might end up as.

King Kuuga wrote:Interesting to see that the characters renamed for Titans Return now have their original names back. I wonder if it was ever actually about trademark or they just wanted to tone them down a bit...

Lots of names have been lost and regained over the years. If it were a tone issue, then the child-aimed Cyberverse line wouldn't have used "Skullcruncher" for its Ultra class figure.

o.supreme wrote:Some fans are already speculating that the voyagers will come with a single Core class. I hope not. I hope they continue to come packed with 2 Micromasters or Battlemasters. They don't factor into the show, so I don't see a reason to change the formula now.

One of the leakers (the one who leaked most of ER, not the one who leaked Kingdom) says that they do come with Cores instead of Battlemasters (which makes sense, since Kingdom doesn't have those).

Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

How come? I'll take a zombie any day. Sure, I'd rather have Sunstorm, but we got the main 6 so I consider anything else a bonus. I'd prefer that over, say, a dirty Starscream.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

How come? I'll take a zombie any day. Sure, I'd rather have Sunstorm, but we got the main 6 so I consider anything else a bonus. I'd prefer that over, say, a dirty Starscream.

Emerje

Because I want Sunstorm. And he's been skipped over for Red Wing* (whose entire existence is due to an art error and a massive misunderstanding), Hotlink, G2 Sandstorm, seemingly G2 Ramjet, the Rainmakers, and a generic zombie, all of whom except for Acid Storm are a lot more obscure than Sunstorm.

*I say this as a person who loves Red Wing and his figure, but he fits with the argument.

Emerje wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

How come? I'll take a zombie any day. Sure, I'd rather have Sunstorm, but we got the main 6 so I consider anything else a bonus. I'd prefer that over, say, a dirty Starscream.

Emerje

It's just, every time they release another Seeker who isn't Sunstorm (especially if it's one more obscure than him), it feels like such a tease. And that spoilered text being true would feel like Hasbro's flat-out trolling us.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

How come? I'll take a zombie any day. Sure, I'd rather have Sunstorm, but we got the main 6 so I consider anything else a bonus. I'd prefer that over, say, a dirty Starscream.

Emerje

It's just, every time they release another Seeker who isn't Sunstorm (especially if it's one more obscure than him), it feels like such a tease. And that spoilered text being true would feel like Hasbro's flat-out trolling us.

Yeah, I agree. Just give us a voyager Sunstorm already.

What if the Sparkleman is colored like Sunstorm?

Autobot N wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

How come? I'll take a zombie any day. Sure, I'd rather have Sunstorm, but we got the main 6 so I consider anything else a bonus. I'd prefer that over, say, a dirty Starscream.

Emerje

Because I want Sunstorm. And he's been skipped over for Red Wing* (whose entire existence is due to an art error and a massive misunderstanding), Hotlink, G2 Sandstorm, seemingly G2 Ramjet, the Rainmakers, and a generic zombie, all of whom except for Acid Storm are a lot more obscure than Sunstorm.

*I say this as a person who loves Red Wing and his figure, but he fits with the argument.

The zombie makes sense though, since you can troop build to recreate the scene from the netflix show.

Autobot N wrote:Also, the guy said that the Seeker was a Sparkless from Siege, which I would find very irritating if true imo.

I saw that post as well, and I'm not actually certain both that that's what the leaker meant and that that's what'll happen. The post in question was literally just the word Sparkless Sparklers with no context, that could technically be what the dead/damaged version of Barricade that someone mentioned at some point is supposed to be, seeing as how one of those guys with the Barricade/Datsun body ate Moonracer and that's literally the only one of them I actually remember from the show because of it (which means it would probably sell better to casual viewers as well). In addition to that, 2 of the leakers are in disagreement over whether the Siege mold is still in use or not, with one saying they're doing one more use of it for this listing, and the other saying the mold has been retired but also saying they trust the first leaker more than their own sources. Not saying anyone is specifically wrong, but I think there's room for error here in terms of getting the identity of the Seeker right for everyone involved and not every leak is gonna be right.

I'm also totally with you on wanting specifically a Siege Sunstorm, in addition to wanting him both in general and to go with Hotlink, he's the only one left they need to make for me to be able to have a full rainbow of Tetrajets and I really want them to enable that now.

Today is the last day for Canadians to get Nemesis Prime at the same price as Americans.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/collectio ... esis-prime

I just paid for mine.

Maybe wheeljack might be a zombie too if that's the route they go with the seeker. Seems strange to pass up on doing ghost starscream but that's probably spoiler pack 3 (and at the same price of a leader spoiler pack ).

Looks like Voyagers are starting to show up in the United States...

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... l_walmart/

I haven't even seen the Deluxes Yet, most of my Walmarts are clogged with Cyberverse and SS. Plenty of empty pegs for Generations. I'm glad they don't share the same shelf space, but when something is THIS popular, you think they would order more of it, and less of the other lines... oh well.

The Hotlinks and Megatron's are disappearing , so I'm hopeful to at least see Prime, or if my Partner here seems him first...that works also..

Lastly, someone here previously mentioned if Walmart puts something on clearance, they don't intend to get any more. Does that mean they don't even intend to carry the 2nd Spoiler ox in store, since #1 was clearanced so quickly? I mean I got mine online already, but just asking for anyone who hopes to see it at an actual store...

All I know is my Wal-Mart just reset the toy aisle and there's no spot for a spoiler box.

Struck out trying to find Bee today, but lucked into finding this guy.

How much does Netflix soundwave go for in stores?

Razorbeast88 wrote:How much does Netflix soundwave go for in stores?

$40

Oof I need to start hunting
I pre-ordered mine for $60 off tfsource and its not supposed to come in until February

Well, Optimus is available on Wal-Mart.com, and I just bought mine. He should be here in about 5-6 days.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, Optimus is available on Wal-Mart.com, and I just bought mine. He should be here in about 5-6 days.

I'm still on delayed for Elita-1, and I haven't seen her or anyone else that isn't wave 1 (in any line) in the 5 stores near me yet.

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, Optimus is available on Wal-Mart.com, and I just bought mine. He should be here in about 5-6 days.

I'm still on delayed for Elita-1, and I haven't seen her or anyone else that isn't wave 1 (in any line) in the 5 stores near me yet.

I have seen Wheeljack and only Wheeljack in any stores by me. He appears to be the Hound of wave 2, as he was hanging out by a couple Hounds in each case.

Fellow Seibertronians o.supreme and TF-fan kev777 have reported that the second wave of voyagers from the Walmart exclusive Transformers Netflix series have been found in the US. Both the Soundwave and Optimus three packs (they each come with 2 smaller toys) are just shy of $40. While these are in Netflix boxes, they aren't related to the show. Optimus is the Earthrise toy (he has his Siege body in the Earthrise cartoon) in his original toy colours while Soundwave is an excusive retool of the Siege toy that makes him turn into a casette player. These have been found in various states in the pat few days like Utah (where the in store image was taken from) and Michigan.

well this is great. since walmart cancelled all my preorders except bumblebee, who has just gone to back order status. Maybe I will get lucky and find them in store.

Immortal Starscream wrote:well this is great. since walmart cancelled all my preorders except bumblebee, who has just gone to back order status. Maybe I will get lucky and find them in store.

They cancelled a order that wasn't even "pre".
So eh. Whenever I'll order anything from Walmart, I'll assume that I have 50% chance of not getting anything.

A miracle that I was able to order Omega Supreme a few months back.

Well, this doesn't seem to be specific to Walmart - it has to be Hasbro. I JUST got an email that Amazon cancelled the preorder I had for their exclusive Paradron Medics 2-Pack with RATCHET and Lifeline that I preordered in October and they had set to deliver TODAY. This is after having the Amazon exclusive Prowl / Ironhide 2-Pack delayed twice.

I can't believe Hasbro is making so many of their core character figures be exclusives and so limited. One of the first two Transformers I got for my birthday in July 1984 was Prowl - it's as core as it gets. Luckily the other (Sunstreaker) is available everywhere.

Is there any way Hasbro will listen to us to cut this out? It's bad enough when Amazon sends Deluxe figures in bubble mailers and they packages get beaten up.

And the hunt begins...

Wow, those look great.
Too bad there's no damn room for them on the shelves due to the stupid slight Megatron/Skywarp repaints that have been clogging shelves for a year now.

cruizerdave wrote:Wow, those look great.
Too bad there's no damn room for them on the shelves due to the stupid slight Megatron/Skywarp repaints that have been clogging shelves for a year now.

Its Walmart, there is always room, they will just pile them on top. I'm being serious, that is exactly where I found mine, on a pile of Megatrons and Hotlinks.

Fortunately they have been dwindling, at least in my area. Whereas before most stores in my area had 6-8 Netflix Voyagers, Now they are down to about 3 or less. Each store is different. Some make piles of incoherent mess, some keep their overstock up above, and some are content to have empty space and never order anything for some reason....

Lately I've seen Walmart stock up on Cyberverse and SS (overflowing with those, they just aren't selling). The only Earthrise or Netflix has been a few Voyagers or Leaders, but Most stores in my area cant keep deluxes of ER or Netflix in stock, they sell as quick as they come in....

Oh yeah, and a few RED and Re-Issue Blasters in their for good measure

Found mine last night too. They weren’t on shelves but someone had already opened a few of the cases in the pile so there were a few Optimus and a Soundwave spread all over the floor. Both are really great, Soundwave looks good with the smooth design and I love the colors on Optimus next to the Earthrise release - I can actually see his eyes now lol. But also the dark blue reminds me of the original toy too which is nice and I like the contrast better. Also the unpainted blue hands are nice and I kinda like that his upper arms and inner shoulders are the same blue. Looks better than I expected. Just need Bee now

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

bstngs wrote:I can't believe Hasbro is making so many of their core character figures be exclusives and so limited. One of the first two Transformers I got for my birthday in July 1984 was Prowl - it's as core as it gets.

According some people around here (and Chris Feely, apparently), Prowl is just some guy that happened to be from 1986.

As far as the reason Prowl, Ironhide AND Ratchet got made as exclusives, I can only guess budgets.

I thought it was more to do with varying up what was on store shelves so that they couldn't have the accusation if just repeating the same characters over and over again. Hence why Smokescreen got the retail release this time.

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought it was more to do with varying up what was on store shelves so that they couldn't have the accusation if just repeating the same characters over and over again. Hence why Smokescreen got the retail release this time.

It's as good a reason as any. I'll go with yours.

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought it was more to do with varying up what was on store shelves so that they couldn't have the accusation if just repeating the same characters over and over again. Hence why Smokescreen got the retail release this time.

It's as good a reason as any. I'll go with yours.

I think it may be a little of both. For prowl, to vary who was an exclusive last time. For Ironhide and Ratchet, I suspect the extra plastic pushed them too heavy for a regular deluxe release, so they had to be paired with a lighter deluxe in a 2 pack to balance things out. The siege versions were already on the heavy side for the amount of plastic before the new roof piece was added in.

Hasbro's decision with Prime and now Soundwave are so puzzling.

These two voyagers are technically the toys everyone has wanted for a decade. A representation of G1 Prime and Soundwave in the CHUG scale. No gimmick, no reinterpreted alt mode, no battle damage, just straight up G1 in the scale most collect. And yet the "siege" take on these molds/characters creeps up on them. I am so baffled that the G1 Soundwave retool keeps the siege forearms with landing gear. I know it's all cost, same with Prime's leg mode assembly, but we finally have these versions out, you'd think they would do the extra task of making them uncompromised since that's the whole point of these figures.

Anyways, my other issue with Soundwave is the ratchets on his armpits which are just too wide apart. I have no clue why ratchets were used, it's not like there is weight on the arms needing support.

They are both nice toys and nice versions (the best?) but these vestigial elements are such a drag.

I'm seeing some reports trickle in on Facebook that Prime and Soundwave are showing up. I'm gonna go hunting again tonight.

Yep the news is getting around

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ail/45474/

I see where you're coming from

Though with optimus im assuming they kept it for people that had already gotten earthrise optimus and prefer netflix prime as their definitive G1 Prime, providing the option to give him the trailer as well. And it seems most of the toys released in these lines are meant to have these kinds of options

As far as netflix soundwave goes, I was under the impression the landing gear also acted as "guns" in robot mode, since blast effects can be added to them. Other than that im not sure what purpose they would serve but they don't bother me in robot mode. And without them in alt mode, there'd be an odd gap in the back (not that it really matters). Just my take on it, though ill assume you're right about the armpit ratchets and I dont have an ER prime yet to judge the problem with the legs

o.supreme wrote:Yep the news is getting around

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ail/45474/

Yeah, I saw that post, but more sightings boost my confidence.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Though with optimus im assuming they kept it for people that had already gotten earthrise optimus and prefer netflix prime as their definitive G1 Prime, providing the option to give him the trailer as well. And it seems most of the toys released in these lines are meant to have these kinds of options

Earthrise and Netflix Prime are the exact same mold and both of those molds share the same vestigial port with the wrong orientation that has nothing to do with carrying the trailer.

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Though with optimus im assuming they kept it for people that had already gotten earthrise optimus and prefer netflix prime as their definitive G1 Prime, providing the option to give him the trailer as well. And it seems most of the toys released in these lines are meant to have these kinds of options

Earthrise and Netflix Prime are the exact same mold and both of those molds share the same vestigial port with the wrong orientation that has nothing to do with carrying the trailer.

Pretty big oof haha my bad

I thought at first that I'd may impulse Netflix Soundwave. But on second thought, there's no point for me. I'm plenty satisfied with my Siege version. I already have the G1 and the MP who turn into PROPER tapedeck modes. The Siege tape deck is a freaking mess. Plus now that I have ALL the cassettes, I really don't want to hunt down the same cassettes all over again, despite the slight differences.

william-james88 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Though with optimus im assuming they kept it for people that had already gotten earthrise optimus and prefer netflix prime as their definitive G1 Prime, providing the option to give him the trailer as well. And it seems most of the toys released in these lines are meant to have these kinds of options

Earthrise and Netflix Prime are the exact same mold and both of those molds share the same vestigial port with the wrong orientation that has nothing to do with carrying the trailer.

On the Siege Prime, the port covered by the flap is on the left leg and is the trailer 'hitch'. But on Earthrise Prime, because of the way the legs flip differently, that port is now on the right leg and sits just to the side. I mean, it's an extra C.O.M.B.A.T. port so do with it what you will, but it was probably cheaper to leave it than remove it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I thought at first that I'd may impulse Netflix Soundwave. But on second thought, there's no point for me. I'm plenty satisfied with my Siege version. I already have the G1 and the MP who turn into PROPER tapedeck modes. The Siege tape deck is a freaking mess. Plus now that I have ALL the cassettes, I really don't want to hunt down the same cassettes all over again, despite the slight differences.

They only released two 'earth mode' cassettes didn't they? And they're in the set with Soundwave.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I thought at first that I'd may impulse Netflix Soundwave. But on second thought, there's no point for me. I'm plenty satisfied with my Siege version. I already have the G1 and the MP who turn into PROPER tapedeck modes. The Siege tape deck is a freaking mess. Plus now that I have ALL the cassettes, I really don't want to hunt down the same cassettes all over again, despite the slight differences.

That soundwave comes with the 2 new casettes so nothing else needed to hunt. I knew this toy would be ridiculous on the secondary market so I got it now instead of regretting it later.

Finally found a Wave 2 figure. Just hit a Walmart with five Hotlinks, two Decepticon Mirages, and a single Bumblebee. Four more to complete the diorama. My bro didn't realize this was a VW Bee until I showed him the license on the box since he mostly collects Studio Series.

Hit up 3 walmarts tonight, including one I rarely go to because it's out of my way but is usually good to me, no dice anywhere. Alas.

Well, I found a pretty bad fan mode space barge for Netflix Soundwave, but hey, at least he now uses his landing gear. See everyone, it is supposed to be there...

If you are in the Phoenix, AZ area, all of the deluxe figures can be found at a Walmart in the old Metrocenter mall. There are two pegs and at least two or three of each figure. The voyagers were still wave 1 though so the hunt for Soundwave continues.