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New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts

Transformers News: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts

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Thanks to a Facebook post on the HK-TF page have have a pair of new magazine scans that show off the newly retooled parts on the upcoming Takara Legends Kup and Hot Rod! The scans show that Hot Rod's chest was the only piece redone while Kup has new arm parts and a new face, though the arms were not totally redesigned, just the shoulders and forearms.

Check out the new images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Transformers News: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts

Transformers News: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts
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Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876390)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 22nd, 2017 @ 1:49pm CDT
clear plastic barrels and chest.
ummmmmm.... no thanks
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876395)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
Oh god why is Kup that bright teal colour in that shot showing the retooled pieces? You trying to start another argument, Takara? I pre-ordered the greyish one and that's what I'd better get.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876397)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:18pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Oh god why is Kup that bright teal colour in that shot showing the retooled pieces? You trying to start another argument, Takara? I pre-ordered the greyish one and that's what I'd better get.

The shots showing the retooled pieces are the Hasbro versions with prototypes of the new parts... >:oP
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876399)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
calm down people those are the prototypes, they literally just took hasbros figures and slapped the new parts on. These pictures are ment to show whats new, they arent the final product nor a variant.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876400)
Posted by Poyguimogul on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
The clear parts show what qas retooled.

Bright kup is u.s. version with altered parts to accommodate targetmaster.

But doed the takara version have a different face?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876402)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Oh god why is Kup that bright teal colour in that shot showing the retooled pieces? You trying to start another argument, Takara? I pre-ordered the greyish one and that's what I'd better get.

The shots showing the retooled pieces are the Hasbro versions with prototypes of the new parts... >:oP



Yeah that's what I figured but wanted to get some clarification just to be sure else anyone else expected Takara may have gone with Hasbro colours after all :P
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876419)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 22nd, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
Poyguimogul wrote:The clear parts show what qas retooled.

Bright kup is u.s. version with altered parts to accommodate targetmaster.

But doed the takara version have a different face?


The grey and and clear unpainted parts, and yes, Kup has a new face plate. And I thought we all knew Hot Rodimus' chest was clear plastic (and not chromed!).

And allow me to point out a slight error, as the magazine has Hot Rodimus and Chaar share the same ID number, LG46. Hot Rodimus is LG45 :)
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876428)
Posted by Kurona on April 22nd, 2017 @ 4:44pm CDT
Poyguimogul wrote:The clear parts show what qas retooled.

Bright kup is u.s. version with altered parts to accommodate targetmaster.

But doed the takara version have a different face?

More than likely they figured Hasbro's faceplate wasn't a good enough fit for the cartoon.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876559)
Posted by Albatross250 on April 23rd, 2017 @ 8:28am CDT
now :TAKARATOMY: has something to do with Blitzwing and Octone (Tankor if you want)'s paint scheme
i hope its all painted and not stickers like the :HASBRO: does :BOOM:
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876560)
Posted by Albatross250 on April 23rd, 2017 @ 8:30am CDT
Hold on a second ...
Do anyone still receive some Announcements for Godbomber? :shock:
I had no news or information of him on release :-?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876564)
Posted by Flashwave on April 23rd, 2017 @ 9:22am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:Hold on a second ...
Do anyone still receive some Announcements for Godbomber? :shock:
I had no news or information of him on release :-?

He's just in a sorta lull, that quiet time between initial announcement and shipping to stores where there's not much to say. I believe BBTS had him slated for August, so we'll have more probably June or July?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876579)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 23rd, 2017 @ 10:08am CDT
Flashwave wrote:
Albatross250 wrote:Hold on a second ...
Do anyone still receive some Announcements for Godbomber? :shock:
I had no news or information of him on release :-?

He's just in a sorta lull, that quiet time between initial announcement and shipping to stores where there's not much to say. I believe BBTS had him slated for August, so we'll have more probably June or July?

hes out in may
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876580)
Posted by Overcracker on April 23rd, 2017 @ 10:10am CDT
Release date for Godbomber is in May. Late May according to AmiAmi No new photos have come up, but we already know what he looks like, and how he combines with Ginrai.

Not sure what more there is to show about him.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876591)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 23rd, 2017 @ 12:01pm CDT
Via Dengeki Hobby, we have some new images and information regarding the upcoming Takara Legends LG-EX Black Convoy! The new images show the beautiful black paint job the figure has along with all 3 modes. Some new information also reveals the figure will be 5600 yen, or about $51.00 US dollars, it is scheduled for a June 3 release, and it will be released at the opening day of the 2017 Tokyo Toy Show. It is also a limited release.

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

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Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876595)
Posted by Yweggo on April 23rd, 2017 @ 12:19pm CDT
The sword's a too little pink for my tastes. Still looks fan-flipping-tastic, if I had any connection to the character I'd be all over this.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876596)
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 23rd, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
Now all we need is the Toxitron Redeco.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876629)
Posted by Overcracker on April 23rd, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
Wasn't planning on picking him up, but man is that truck mode gorgeous.

If he's not too expensive I may just cave in and pre-order him.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876636)
Posted by Deliverence on April 23rd, 2017 @ 2:18pm CDT
I need this guy in my life!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876641)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
The Flowers of Evil shall bloom across the cosmos!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876647)
Posted by SG Roadbuster on April 23rd, 2017 @ 2:40pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Now all we need is the Toxitron Redeco.


and a dotm inspired Megatron. and a ehobby Battle Magnus?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876650)
Posted by william-james88 on April 23rd, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Wasn't planning on picking him up, but man is that truck mode gorgeous.

If he's not too expensive I may just cave in and pre-order him.

He will be about 60$ USD minimum.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876653)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 23rd, 2017 @ 2:57pm CDT
SG Roadbuster wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:Now all we need is the Toxitron Redeco.


and a dotm inspired Megatron.

Ooh, that'd be awesome!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876667)
Posted by Overcracker on April 23rd, 2017 @ 5:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wasn't planning on picking him up, but man is that truck mode gorgeous.

If he's not too expensive I may just cave in and pre-order him.

He will be about 60$ USD minimum.


Hmmm, not too expensive... :-?

Any news whether the likes of Ami Ami or Anime Export are expected to carry it?


Or will it have to be BBTS or TFsource for those of us in the western hemisphere?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876668)
Posted by william-james88 on April 23rd, 2017 @ 5:31pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wasn't planning on picking him up, but man is that truck mode gorgeous.

If he's not too expensive I may just cave in and pre-order him.

He will be about 60$ USD minimum.


Hmmm, not too expensive... :-?

Any news whether the likes of Ami Ami or Anime Export are expected to carry it?


Or will it have to be BBTS or TFsource for those of us in the western hemisphere?

Its an exclusive in japan, like thosr recent heads in a boxset, so only bbts, tfsource and the like.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876680)
Posted by Overcracker on April 23rd, 2017 @ 6:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wasn't planning on picking him up, but man is that truck mode gorgeous.

If he's not too expensive I may just cave in and pre-order him.

He will be about 60$ USD minimum.


Hmmm, not too expensive... :-?

Any news whether the likes of Ami Ami or Anime Export are expected to carry it?


Or will it have to be BBTS or TFsource for those of us in the western hemisphere?

Its an exclusive in japan, like thosr recent heads in a boxset, so only bbts, tfsource and the like.


All righty then. TFSource it will be.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876694)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on April 23rd, 2017 @ 7:24pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Via Dengeki Hobby, we have some new images and information regarding the upcoming Takara Legends LG-EX Black Convoy! The new images show the beautiful black paint job the figure has along with all 3 modes. Some new information also reveals the figure will be 5600 yen, or about $51.00 US dollars, it is scheduled for a June 3 release, and it will be released at the opening day of the 2017 Tokyo Toy Show. It is also a limited release.

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

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I feel like I've died and gone back in time to a time when Paris Hilton was slightly relevant, because damn THAT'S HOT!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876704)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 23rd, 2017 @ 8:24pm CDT
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You know, his noggin looked a bit off, and I didn't know why at first. I just now noticed that the pylons/antennae aren't up.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876709)
Posted by JazZeke on April 23rd, 2017 @ 8:42pm CDT
Y'know that scene in Zootopia when the sloth gets the joke and his face slowly explodes into a huge open-mouthed smile? That was my reaction to seeing this.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876713)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 23rd, 2017 @ 8:57pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:Y'know that scene in Zootopia when the sloth gets the joke and his face slowly explodes into a huge open-mouthed smile? That was my reaction to seeing this.

Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876716)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2017 @ 9:08pm CDT
It just hit me. This toy is basically giving Black Convoy everything he's ever wanted. Not only does he now have a Headmaster to counter Brave Maximus, but he also now has a flight mode to counter both God Magnus and God Fire Convoy.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876736)
Posted by JazZeke on April 23rd, 2017 @ 11:06pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It just hit me. This toy is basically giving Black Convoy everything he's ever wanted. Not only does he now have a Headmaster to counter Brave Maximus, but he also now has a flight mode to counter both God Magnus and God Fire Convoy.

HAH!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876748)
Posted by Emerje on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:13am CDT
Refresh my memory, were the previous Tokyo Toy Show exclusives sold at the Takara Tomy Mall site? I don't want to bother with TFSource or BBTS if I can get it for less through a forwarding service. I've gotten the previous Masterpieces from TFS, but I'd really like to try buying direct if I can this time.

Emerje
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876751)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:22am CDT
Emerje wrote:Refresh my memory, were the previous Tokyo Toy Show exclusives sold at the Takara Tomy Mall site? I don't want to bother with TFSource or BBTS if I can get it for less through a forwarding service. I've gotten the previous Masterpieces from TFS, but I'd really like to try buying direct if I can this time.

Emerje


My guess is the primary venue is that Toy Show, with leftovers sold on TakaraTomy Mall.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876753)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:34am CDT
Emerje wrote:Refresh my memory, were the previous Tokyo Toy Show exclusives sold at the Takara Tomy Mall site? I don't want to bother with TFSource or BBTS if I can get it for less through a forwarding service. I've gotten the previous Masterpieces from TFS, but I'd really like to try buying direct if I can this time.

Emerje


I have an intermediary/forwarding contact in Japan (well know among the collector's community and not BigInJapan who I also use) who gets me hard to find PVC figs (100% success rate). They wouldn't want to even touch Tokyo Toy Show exclusives(too expensive). Same with the special headmaster sets. Hence I was force to use RK.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876754)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:46am CDT
Emerje wrote:Refresh my memory, were the previous Tokyo Toy Show exclusives sold at the Takara Tomy Mall site? I don't want to bother with TFSource or BBTS if I can get it for less through a forwarding service. I've gotten the previous Masterpieces from TFS, but I'd really like to try buying direct if I can this time.

Emerje


The ones i am thinking of were not available at takaratomymall.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876784)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 24th, 2017 @ 4:58am CDT
That Scourge is delicious and I want it.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876793)
Posted by Albatross250 on April 24th, 2017 @ 7:05am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Image

You know, his noggin looked a bit off, and I didn't know why at first. I just now noticed that the pylons/antennae aren't up.

The paint they did to black convoy is Very CHEAP (look at that small :RENEGADE: logo :lol: )
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876797)
Posted by Kurona on April 24th, 2017 @ 7:12am CDT
The placement of the Combatron logo is pretty odd actually - everything else seems to be accurate to either the cartoon or the toy except for that. On both the toy and the cartoon, Scourge/Black Convoy had two Combatron faction symbols - one on each shoulder. But here he doesn't have any on his shoulders and instead has a tiny little one stuffed away in the corner of one of his window boobs. I guess Takara figured the shoulders on this mold were too small?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876804)
Posted by Big Grim on April 24th, 2017 @ 7:48am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Image

That really is bloody lovely!
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876837)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 24th, 2017 @ 10:23am CDT
Kurona wrote:The placement of the Combatron logo is pretty odd actually - everything else seems to be accurate to either the cartoon or the toy except for that. On both the toy and the cartoon, Scourge/Black Convoy had two Combatron faction symbols - one on each shoulder. But here he doesn't have any on his shoulders and instead has a tiny little one stuffed away in the corner of one of his window boobs. I guess Takara figured the shoulders on this mold were too small?
With all that sculpted detail, there doesn't appear to be enough flat surface area on the shoulders for Combatron Marks to have been printed on them.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876857)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 24th, 2017 @ 11:50am CDT
It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876859)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2017 @ 11:56am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?

I am wondering about the face. Unlike the standar titan masters, the leader titan masters all have way bigger faces. I havent tried yet but I dont think the head that came with stateside PMOP would work on deluxe Kup due to the change in scale. I should try when I get back home. Has anyone else tried that yet?
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876860)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:01pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?

I am wondering about the face. Unlike the standar titan masters, the leader titan masters all have way bigger faces. I havent tried yet but I dont think the head that came with stateside PMOP would work on deluxe Kup due to the change in scale. I should try when I get back home. Has anyone else tried that yet?
The head that came with Hasbro PM Prime doesn't even look like Cartoon Orion Pax anyway. Were Takara to make an Orion Pax at all, they'd want a cartoon-accurate head given their track record. Short of retooling a new face, of the preexisting TR head molds, Blurr's looks the most like Orion Pax's cartoon head.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876867)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote: Short of retooling a new face, of the preexisting TR head molds, Blurr's looks the most like Orion Pax's cartoon head.

I wouldnt have made the connection but now that you mention it, he does.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876876)
Posted by Kurona on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?

I am wondering about the face. Unlike the standar titan masters, the leader titan masters all have way bigger faces. I havent tried yet but I dont think the head that came with stateside PMOP would work on deluxe Kup due to the change in scale. I should try when I get back home. Has anyone else tried that yet?

PMOP's Titan Master face is the same size and scale as the Deluxe/Voyager Titan Masters because unlike the rest of the Leaders, it doesn't make up part of the actual head - a helmet comes over it. It's the only Leader Titan Master that would actually work on non-leaders.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876880)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?

I am wondering about the face. Unlike the standar titan masters, the leader titan masters all have way bigger faces. I havent tried yet but I dont think the head that came with stateside PMOP would work on deluxe Kup due to the change in scale. I should try when I get back home. Has anyone else tried that yet?

PMOP's Titan Master face is the same size and scale as the Deluxe/Voyager Titan Masters because unlike the rest of the Leaders, it doesn't make up part of the actual head - a helmet comes over it. It's the only Leader Titan Master that would actually work on non-leaders.

Do you own it and compared them? Because i did and the face part of PMOP's titanmaster still takes up a much bigger chunk than any deluxe or voyager titan master. it doesnt scale with deluxes and voyagers, same as the rest of the leaders.

Check out the difference between him and doublecross for instance, you can see that double cross has a much smaller face part before his helmet begins

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Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876885)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 24th, 2017 @ 1:04pm CDT
I'll have to check to be sure when I get home from work later this evening, but I think the "trick" with the Leader class Titan Masters is that their faces take up more of the available space, while their "helmets" are quite diminutive compared to the individual Titan Masters, Deluxes, and Voyagers. This allows the Leader class Titan Masters to still function with all of the other size classes and the Titan Master vehicles/beasts/weapons too, because even though the proportions between face and helmet are much different, the overall space taken up is about equivalent with any other Titan Master. The smaller helmets on the Leader Titan Masters are remedied by the use of larger helmets integrated into the Leader class figure proper, to bulk up the size of the head, keeping it in scale. The larger faces help facilitate this "trick." It's not perfect, but technically, all Titan Masters are compatible with all figures in Titans Return, even if to your eye, the proportions may be a bit skewed towards whatever size class the Titan Master in question was originally paired with.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876888)
Posted by Kurona on April 24th, 2017 @ 1:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just struck me, but now that Takara has remolded the shoulders and forearms for Kup, that would make a possible Orion Pax repaint all the better! Though, if e-Hobby did decide to do an updated Orion Pax from this mold, I wouldn't fault them for using the original Hasbro tooling, just to make Orion a little more distinct from Kup, even though it would mean a bit less cartoon accuracy. What do you guys think?

I am wondering about the face. Unlike the standar titan masters, the leader titan masters all have way bigger faces. I havent tried yet but I dont think the head that came with stateside PMOP would work on deluxe Kup due to the change in scale. I should try when I get back home. Has anyone else tried that yet?

PMOP's Titan Master face is the same size and scale as the Deluxe/Voyager Titan Masters because unlike the rest of the Leaders, it doesn't make up part of the actual head - a helmet comes over it. It's the only Leader Titan Master that would actually work on non-leaders.

Do you own it and compared them? Because i did and the face part of PMOP's titanmaster still takes up a much bigger chunk than any deluxe or voyager titan master. it doesnt scale with deluxes and voyagers, same as the rest of the leaders.

Check out the difference between him and doublecross for instance, you can see that double cross has a much smaller face part before his helmet begins

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Figured it might be that since it is used for PM OP's eyes. Still, it certainly works better than most Leader heads as it is a full head on its own rather than just a face that's useless without a helmet; and it might actually work better on a Voyager.

Still, it'd be best to try out the Orion Pax head on an actual Deluxe or Voyager to fully judge. Showing that it's a slightly bigger scale than most Deluxes by putting him on Sky Shadow doesn't really help illustrate anything, especially in the context of the conversation.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876889)
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Still, it'd be best to try out the Orion Pax head on an actual Deluxe or Voyager to fully judge. Showing that it's a slightly bigger scale than most Deluxes by putting him on Sky Shadow doesn't really help illustrate anything, especially in the context of the conversation.

I'm at work, its all I had to compare with to go along with my question to the Wolfman. However I will say that then I did the comparison, all the leader heads, including the optimus one, have the exact same facial proportions. So if one leader head works on a deluxe, then they all do, and vice versa.
Re: New Magazine Scan Shows Takara Tomy Legends Kup and Hot Rod's New Retooled Parts (1876890)
Posted by Cobotron on April 24th, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
If Takara went through the trouble of sculpting a new face for Kup/Char (and the main 4 HMs), and were going to make an Orion Pax, would it not be safe to assume they would just sculpt a new face?

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