New In-hand Images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus and Shockwave
Sunday, December 16th, 2018 4:39PM CST
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The pictures include a comparison shot of Siege Optimus with both the inner white robot of Ultra Magnus and with Ultra Magnus all armoured up. There is also a good look at Shockwave, included being handled as if he had his original alt mode.
We have mirrored the images below for your convenience.
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Posted by Lore Keeper on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:13pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CST
Want those two so hard.
Posted by S.o.L. on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:19pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:23pm CST
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!
Posted by YoungPrime on December 16th, 2018 @ 5:56pm CST
Better yet just release this d@mn figure at retail already and I'll do it myself!
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:10pm CST
Not a deal breaker, just less than ideal.
Emerje
Posted by Lucky Logician on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:13pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:15pm CST
Emerje wrote:Looks like we've got our confirmation that Ultra Magnus' armor has pre-posed ankles rather than ankle tilts.
Not a deal breaker, just less than ideal.
Emerje
AGH Why?! I'm still gonna get him, but I hate when they're pre-posed ankle tilts! It just makes it more tedious to pose! Oh well, there are worse things in this line (Prowl's legs I'm looking at you)
Posted by Cobotron on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:26pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:30pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:33pm CST
Randomhero wrote:Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait
If I'm honest, I kind of wish we'd get it, just to see how they handle the Scramble City style, with the addition of two bots making up the torso. Maybe down the line we might see release like with Greenlight
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 16th, 2018 @ 7:38pm CST
Randomhero wrote:Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait
There are hinges attached to the side of the feet. What purpose would they serve other than ankle tilt?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:04pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:There are hinges attached to the side of the feet. What purpose would they serve other than ankle tilt?
After watching the pictures carefully, the angle of the feet seem to be unmoving no matter the pose. Plus what you see as "hinges" are really just the parts where the white panels tab solidly in. There is no "hinges" there.
Posted by Cobotron on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:32pm CST
Posted by RainyDayMan2k on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:37pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't care for that Shockwave, but I NEED that Ultra Magnus!
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!
Either that's an amusing typo where you slipped just south of the W key, or...
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:41pm CST
Randomhero wrote:Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
There’s a corner with people still waiting for unite warriors Liokaiser. They’ll probably let you chill with them while you wait
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 8:43pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
Yes, let's remember that Hasbro's stock photographers can't be trusted to transform a Jumpstarter.
And I'm pretty sure it is in fact working ankle tilts. Because in some of those pictures, like this one:
The ankles look to be tilted more steeply.
It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:17pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna hope that it's another case of mis-transformation until proven otherwise.
Yes, let's remember that Hasbro's stock photographers can't be trusted to transform a Jumpstarter.
And I'm pretty sure it is in fact working ankle tilts. Because in some of those pictures, like this one:
The ankles look to be tilted more steeply.
They do appear to be more angled there so there might be a bit more of a tilt inward, but I don't think they can sit flat. The feet appear to be attached to the tires so if the were flat they'd force the wheels off the ground in truck mode and he'd roll in bot mode, by angling them they keep the wheels up in bot mode. At least that's how it looks.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:22pm CST
Shegotron wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't care for that Shockwave, but I NEED that Ultra Magnus!
Like, really, THE RETURN OF SHITE OPTIMUS! That combine with his trailer! It's the first time ever since G1!
Either that's an amusing typo where you slipped just south of the W key, or...
M... Maybe that's why it took so long to have a combining White Magnus!
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2018 @ 9:34pm CST
Walmart: New Siege display (picture below) for Deluxes and Voyagers. These are apart from the Transformers section, in a central aisle.
Toysrus: While the Battle Masters were already reported, they now have the Micromasters, Deluxes and Voyager classes.
EB Games: They have the Micromaster two packs.
The prices are the same across the board with the Micromasters at $12.99, Deluxes at $29.99 and Voyagers at $39.99. These are all in Canadian dollars. Like in the US, the MSRP is made to match the movie figures price jump we saw last year with The Last Knight. Of course, there are always deals and right now at Toysrus there is a BOGO 50% off sale. So buying two Siege deluxes gives you 25% off each figure.
This info is brought to us by MeGrimlock78 on our boards and Dangard Ace from Cybertron.ca.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 16th, 2018 @ 10:05pm CST
Because the thighs are the only part of the inner figure's front that are exposed when the figure is wearing its armor. The rest of the body is so pristine because the armor piece cover up all those pristine parts, keeping them clean from the battle damage that the armor pieces themselves get covered in.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 16th, 2018 @ 11:17pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 11:23pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?
I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
Posted by Randomhero on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:44am CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:43am CST
Randomhero wrote:Six months since the reveal of siege and people still complaining about the weathering effect and saying the same stuff over and over and over.
Generally I'm okay with the battle damage effect cause it's subtle. And then there's Soundwave being caked in the stuff He's the only one I take a lot of issue with, and mostly because of the cracks in his... Window? Would that be the right term?
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 17th, 2018 @ 2:29am CST
Shockwave looks fine but should have left all that backpack junk off him and released him as a voyager. Way too expensive for a voyager size figure and awful accessory.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:07am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Don't like Magnus at all. Surprised he can even pose at all being so bricky looking. And his butt ends up as the truck's lower front. Like when he crashes into enemies in truck mode he's butt-bashing them?
Shockwave looks fine but should have left all that backpack junk off him and released him as a voyager. Way too expensive for a voyager size figure and awful accessory.
1. Ultra Magnus doesn't look that much blockier than the Combiner Wars toy (and his G1 design has always been blocky, which you should know full well from your comics), why are you so surprised he can pose? Also, A. We've known how blocky he is for months, why are you only trashing on him for it now? and B. the truck bumper had to go somewhere. I'm pretty sure Optimus has a bumper butt too.
2. Regarding Shockwave, they needed somebody to be a Decepticon Leader-class toy. And whether you like the weapon harness or not (I think it's fine), it brings him up to Leader size, which is the important thing. Besides, they have at least 4 Voyager slots allocated to Decepticons already (Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Thundercracker).
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:52am CST
Eh.
Call me a pessimist, but I'm pretty sure there will be FOKKAL in my local Laval stores.
Posted by frogbat on December 17th, 2018 @ 6:34am CST
I actually like shockwave - the kibble seems weird but it kinda goes with the character and with the weaponiser gimmick.
Posted by Evil Eye on December 17th, 2018 @ 7:54am CST
And that Shockwave...homina homina. I want him so much.
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2018 @ 7:56am CST
But you can't have your pudding until you eat your meatCobotron wrote:When everyone gets their pudding, then we'll have our proof.
So after staring deeply into Magnus's eyes and getting lost, I came to the conclusion that the Siege greebling is very similar to that of Bandai's NXEDGE figures.
We're all certifiable around hereZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...I'm not a board-certified...
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:04am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Ultra Magnus doesn't look that much blockier than the Combiner Wars toy (and his G1 design has always been blocky, which you should know full well from your comics), why are you so surprised he can pose? Also, A. We've known how blocky he is for months, why are you only trashing on him for it now? and B. the truck bumper had to go somewhere. I'm pretty sure Optimus has a bumper butt too.
Nah, I'm not fond of the he CW toy but it has a lot more angles to break up the constant rectangles whereas this one seems to be all rectangles plus that truck mode is just solid brickiness and somehow looks messy at the same time, at least his traditonal alt-mode looked like it had more of an obvious purpose. And I did mention that a while ago but this first time I'm seeing the back view as i rarely come in this thread (it's usually when there's a news item). And why bring up the comics? The only time I'd want the toys to resemble anything from the Marvel Comics is Geoff Senior angry/evil Decepticon faces and possibly some colour schemes (always did prefer Galvatron in mostly grey/silver), for the most part they used the cartoon character models and I'm really no fan of that.
2. Regarding Shockwave, they needed somebody to be a Decepticon Leader-class toy. And whether you like the weapon harness or not (I think it's fine), it brings him up to Leader size, which is the important thing. Besides, they have at least 4 Voyager slots allocated to Decepticons already (Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Thundercracker).
Yeah but the only one of those I was remotely interested in was Shockwave but his price puts him way above what I wanted to pay for a voyager sized Shocky cos it's about £32 for a voyager here and about £50 for a Leader. For that junky backpack. It's a cheat. Not a true Leader class figure at all. Just a voyager with a goofy accessory to up the price. Could have just put Soundwave in the Leader class and given you a few of his tape buddies in the package too. Might have made up for that lame alt-mode he has at least.
Posted by galvatron00 on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:14am CST
Posted by no-one on December 17th, 2018 @ 8:18am CST
Even I have to shout!
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by galvatron00 on December 17th, 2018 @ 9:43am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:What's more amusing to me is where the 5mm port ends up... Especially if you put a blast effect there...
Posted by Short Circuit on December 17th, 2018 @ 10:25am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:06pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?
I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
I didn’t skim it, I read the post. I don’t doubt that they did in fact ration the paint the way you say, I simply don’t like that it’s there.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 12:36pm CST
Speaking of Ultra Magnus, his vehicle mode is based off this (and, by dint of that, real car carriers at least when it comes to the trailer):
It was done because A. The RiD cab makes him look Cybertronian and B. A G1-based Ultra Magnus trailer in size with a Voyager cab would end up too big for the Leader-class price point. That would result in a Supreme-class toy.
Regarding Soundwave, they had to give him an altmode that looked both Cybertronian and like it could move under its own power while preserving his tape deck look. And he can totally still turn into a tape deck, looking at his legs, they just haven't advertised it.
Now me, I would have preferred them to make Megatron into a Leader-class toy and contrive a spaceship out of this:
But I guess they wanted to make the more important guy more accessible, and what they did with Shockwave doesn't look bad IMO.
Also, why are you not a fan of the cartoon? Because it had the good guys actually being heroic, had the big leader guys actually in charge, and didn't have Optimus commit idiotic suicide over accidentally killing video game NPCs?
Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:I’m with Lucky on this; would the lack of battle damage on the thighs of the Power Armor really detract from the look the way including it on the core robot does?
I realize I'm not a board-certified expert like Sabrblade, so you may have skimmed over what I had sad about it. So here:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not actually haphazard, there is a calculation to it. Siege may have more paint than we've been accustomed to for a while, but it's still rationed. So when apportioning Magnus' paint operations, they presumably decided it was more important to weather the armored mode since that's the part most people would care about. And since the thighs of the cab robot are the only part left exposed, they're what gets the weathering.
I didn’t skim it, I read the post. I don’t doubt that they did in fact ration the paint the way you say, I simply don’t like that it’s there.
Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:51pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2018 @ 2:44pm CST
Posted by Windsweeper on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CST
It could give us another separate character to the CW Magnus with Minimus and another individual to wear the armour like in the IDW comics.
I wouldn't mind a retool as Motormaster.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean
This right here is exactly what we’re saying. Would the Armored mode really look that bad without the thighs painted up in battle damage? I submit that it would not.
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 17th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, think of how the armored mode would look with the rest of it weathered and the thighs clean
This right here is exactly what we’re saying. Would the Armored mode really look that bad without the thighs painted up in battle damage? I submit that it would not.
I submit that it would. With the rest of the armor weathered, the spotless thighs would stick out like a sore thumb. Yes, it does make the cab robot look inconsistent because there's no weathering on the rest of it. But there's only room in the budget for so much paint and if you were doing Ultra Magnus and had to choose which robot mode to weather, which would you pick? And Sabrblade has a point about parts left exposed getting dirtier than covered-up parts.
Posted by DMSL on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:26pm CST
Shockwave....looks fantastic, i want him now.
Posted by mordhelm on December 17th, 2018 @ 4:36pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Does Siege Megatron's head not lock?
As far as most who have him can tell, the headplate he mounts to does not lock. Just is a friction thing. I could not find anything to lock it on mine.
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2018 @ 10:30pm CST
mordhelm wrote:william-james88 wrote:Does Siege Megatron's head not lock?
As far as most who have him can tell, the headplate he mounts to does not lock. Just is a friction thing. I could not find anything to lock it on mine.
Thanks, thats too bad.
Anyways, gt all of Wave 1 today (voyagers and deluxes) and I will be exploring them more in the days to come. But so far, that Optimus...