New Information on Transformers Titans Return Canadian Ship Date, Prices and SKU Codes

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:True, but $14.99 to $23.99 for the same combiner limbs is stretching it a little bit though...

I am right there with you, I would absolutely despise TRU is they were that high. I beleive our more leniant price matching laws are the reason they cant get away with that in Quebec/Canada. They would lose too many sales to Walmart (which is next door to my TRU ). Pretty nuts how that price gap between deluxe and voyager keeps getting smaller.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I was considering that the original comics cost $3.99, and I took off about a dollar since they do lack some of the features, but it is still about $3 worth of comic there. I agree that older comics would be sold off cheaper and the price is meaningless, but that's how I had thought of them. Made me feel a little better that I was getting a good toy and a comic for a good price (especially with the spotlights of Trailcutter and Hoist)

Yeah, I hear you. I think the reason see no value to them is because they dont come with the international version, which comes with a card instead. So I dont feel I am missing out on anything with the switch. And plus, if they have the same MSRP with or without comic, it means that Hasbro themselves see little value to them and I guess those business notions end up forging my thoughts on their value. But I am sorry for your loss there.

Agamemnon wrote:With Titan Returns, we are generally getting two transforming figures in each package... (#JustifyCosts?)

Costs dont need to be justified to me, we are getting these at a huge bargain compared to what people's parents spent in the 80s for their kids.

Here is G1 Hardhead with his old price sticker intact:



Unlike the early G1s, headmasters were all plastic and like most G1, paint apps were minimal and they cost 15.47$. That is the equivalent of $32.58 today, meaning that people's parents had to work the same amount of hours necessary to make $32.58 today to be able to afford that toy back then.
Almost 30 years later, we are now getting a toy of that similar size with modern engineering, a higher parts count, more articulation and more paint apps (with a collector card ) for.... 16-20$. So you only have to work the amount of time it takes to make 20$ instead of 32$ to be able to afford this toy.

Transformer toys have gotten far more affordable than when they originally appeared and we tend not to realize that.

Hasbro (and Toys R us) have a good sense of humor if they expect me to pay over 200$ for Fort Max. Especially after seeing a few reviews of him online.

Ultra Mad wrote:Hasbro (and Toys R us) have a good sense of humor if they expect me to pay over 200$ for Fort Max. Especially after seeing a few reviews of him online.

Well that's why it's a choice. If you don't like it don't, buy it. If the reviews don't wow you, don't buy it. If the price doesn't satisfy you than don't buy it. No body is forcing you to do anything.

It is a choice. But there is something bothering me about such a high price tag for a product that is nowhere near masterpiece quality. At the end of the day, this figure is a *toy* a lot more then a collectable (and yes, I do realise that all Transformers are technically toys, not collectable). And to have paid less then half of that price for Metroplex 2 years ago ( I paid 115$, taxes included, in Canada), which is basically the basis for this toy, make me wonder what they are thinking. I can't imagine many parents rushing into store to buy him for their kids. The advantages of him being at such retail store however is that at some point, he might be on sale for a 'decent' price. (The definition of decent being different for everybody).

Ultra Mad wrote:It is a choice. But there is something bothering me about such a high price tag for a product that is nowhere near masterpiece quality. At the end of the day, this figure is a *toy* a lot more then a collectable (and yes, I do realise that all Transformers are technically toys, not collectable). And to have paid less then half of that price for Metroplex 2 years ago ( I paid 115$, taxes included, in Canada), which is basically the basis for this toy, make me wonder what they are thinking. I can't imagine many parents rushing into store to buy him for their kids. The advantages of him being at such retail store however is that at some point, he might be on sale for a 'decent' price. (The definition of decent being different for everybody).

When I saw that price, I told myself I was gonna wait for him to be less than $100 at Costco which wa the case for every other titan class toy so far.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Mad wrote:It is a choice. But there is something bothering me about such a high price tag for a product that is nowhere near masterpiece quality. At the end of the day, this figure is a *toy* a lot more then a collectable (and yes, I do realise that all Transformers are technically toys, not collectable). And to have paid less then half of that price for Metroplex 2 years ago ( I paid 115$, taxes included, in Canada), which is basically the basis for this toy, make me wonder what they are thinking. I can't imagine many parents rushing into store to buy him for their kids. The advantages of him being at such retail store however is that at some point, he might be on sale for a 'decent' price. (The definition of decent being different for everybody).

When I saw that price, I told myself I was gonna wait for him to be less than $100 at Costco which wa the case for every other titan class toy so far.

That's my plan if I decide I really want him

Were there ever reports of Devistator at Costco?

Cobotron wrote:Were there ever reports of Devistator at Costco?

Canadian Costco, yes, for less than 50$. Dont know if he ever showed up in the US

Metroplex was at our Costco for $50 but I never heard of Devastator being there in the US

william-james88 wrote:Canadian Costco

CostCan?



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Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Canadian Costco

CostCan?



this joke sponsored in part by Thew.

CostCeh.
MooseCo.

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Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Canadian Costco

CostCan?



this joke sponsored in part by Thew.

Heh.

And I was wrong a bit. He didnt cost as little as I posted, he was a tad bit more pricey:



Wont be easy though. He only goes on clearance if there are any left and they go away fast when priced so low. Walmart might be a safer bet. He went for less than 100$ 6 months later.

I have no trouble conceiving they won't sell out all of their Fortress Max at his price range. But you're right, once he get to clearance, it will be a though hunt.

I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

It was more me commenting on seeing titans in stores, not necessarily that buying them in store was better

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Just to precise, the June 25th date is a "Ship Date" and in this context, it likely means "date that our distribution centers will send them out to stores", but to which stores, in what quantity, and at what pace is going to be almost entirely unknown. However, with that date being within the next 2 weeks, it is logical to assume that the rest of North America is not far behind. So keep your eyes peeled!

The date of the 25th isn't really a street date. Not in the same sense of say, Movie figures that typically have a date in May that they are released to the public.

These are a progressive release. The TRU I mentioned shows them as a shipped item. They were ball parking the estimated time of arrival as the 25th, as that's when they get a truck in. Now, they did say it could show up on the next truck in the first week of July, it just all depends on what was put on the truck at the D.C.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

It was more me commenting on seeing titans in stores, not necessarily that buying them in store was better

I see Sorry for being a d#@k.

PS: Woah, that word isnt censored, oh well, I will self censur it.

Just a quick note about the $23.99 Deluxes at Toys R Us. Whenever you see a price that ridiculously high, it's often a sign that they're going to put it on sale soon. I remember seeing Target jack the prices of the Prime Cyberverse Playsets up to like $40 and then selling them for 30% off the next week. It makes it seem like you're getting a better deal when you're only saving a dollar or two over the normal price.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

Is Walmart.com for Canada better at pricing than the American version? Ours is a pretty terrible place. There are deals to be had, but they completely lack consistency.





And those are Walmart.com's prices, not market prices. I don't remember Titans ever being offered on there by Walmart either.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

It was more me commenting on seeing titans in stores, not necessarily that buying them in store was better

I see Sorry for being a d#@k.

PS: Woah, that word isnt censored, oh well, I will self censur it.

Well, you do have to remember that Richard can be shortened to that as a name (though I still really have no idea how that even became a thing...)

Emerje wrote:

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You have no idea how much this has given me strife in recent times, not to mention all those other poor people who have this happen. I mean come one, $5 apart for figures in the same wave part of the same combiner. We are all kinds of crazy here

I wonder if they'll have Fort Max at Costco like they did with Metro.

Emerje wrote:
Is Walmart.com for Canada better at pricing than the American version? Ours is a pretty terrible place. There are deals to be had, but they completely lack consistency.

And those are Walmart.com's prices, not market prices. I don't remember Titans ever being offered on there by Walmart either.

Emerje

Yes, Walmart.ca is far better Prices are always consistent, and you can even spot a titan

There! Consistency!

You watch, when TR comes to Walmart.com here, Blurr will be like $20 since he is a well known name but then Skullsmasher will be $12 because no one at Walmart knows who that is

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:
Is Walmart.com for Canada better at pricing than the American version? Ours is a pretty terrible place. There are deals to be had, but they completely lack consistency.

And those are Walmart.com's prices, not market prices. I don't remember Titans ever being offered on there by Walmart either.

Emerje

Yes, Walmart.ca is far better Prices are always consistent, and you can even spot a titan

You'd think Walmart.com and Walmart.ca would both follow the same rules being both Walmart websites, but clearly that isn't the case. And I really don't understand why .com won't carry Titan class, but .ca will. Plus those .ca prices are just so good!

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:
Is Walmart.com for Canada better at pricing than the American version? Ours is a pretty terrible place. There are deals to be had, but they completely lack consistency.

And those are Walmart.com's prices, not market prices. I don't remember Titans ever being offered on there by Walmart either.

Emerje

Yes, Walmart.ca is far better Prices are always consistent, and you can even spot a titan

You'd think Walmart.com and Walmart.ca would both follow the same rules being both Walmart websites, but clearly that isn't the case. And I really don't understand why .com won't carry Titan class, but .ca will. Plus those .ca prices are just so good!

Emerje

Walmart Canada is run independently of Walmart USA. Mostly for tax purposes and to better coordinate their warehouses (something Amazon has a problem with in Canada), but it seems it extended to pricing policies on their website as well. Of course, they are the same company, but I believe a different brain trust operates each entity, with its own headquarters since it is a seperate division. Procter and Gamble work that way as well. I believe the reason the US version cannot incorporate the same consistency is due to the immense volume. Walmart Canada is big but still small in comparison and monitoring is easier. Also, they probably have more recent database softwares that help keep this consistency, while Walmart USA is stuck with old legacy systems that would be too pricey to fully update. They will surely have to someday though.

Some of you may remember my "adventure" around this time last year when I did a road trip to secure Devastator.

Just like last year when Devastator was part of Big W's Toy Sale, Fortress Maximus will be a part of this years Big W toy sale. In fact, he'd already begun showing up at Big W's around Australia over a week ago, for the price tag of $249AU, which is substantially less than what he was going for at Myer.

A bit over an hour ago a pictured appeared in my Facebook feed of Fortress Maximus in stock at my "local" Big W. (Take into account "local" is still 100km's (60+miles) away. So I made a phone call. First time they didn't even bother answering, second time they did.

I was informed ...
• He cannot be held for me.
• I cannot pay for him in advance.
• He cannot be put on lay-by (lay-away).

With only six in stock, and two other inquiries already, it feels like every hour I delay (yay for work, oh and a head cold!), there's a chance he could slip through my fingers. Not to mention they close at 6pm, I finish work at 5pm ... it takes an hour to get there!

So with not being able to get out of work early, and my head cold, I have decided NOT to do a road trip this year to get Fortress Maximus. So for those who may have been hoping for a repeat of last years hunt ... sorry, it won't be happening.

And for those who have read this far and are now feeling sorry for me because there's a good chance I will miss out. Worry not. I have a friend who lives MUCH closer who will be going in after work and grabbing him for me, and then I'll just pay her back on the weekend.

So, provided all six don't sell out in the next few hours, I will be taking possession of Fortress Maximus in less than 72 hours.
Yes I realise I probably just jinxed myself.

Are you like a giddy little kid hoping for that perfect present?

Good luck in your quest, Burn!

Good Luck Burn! Hopefully Fort Max sells just slow enough for your friend to make it in time!

Agamemnon wrote:Are you like a giddy little kid hoping for that perfect present?

nah, it's more a case of "Just paid the electricity bill, have just enough to pay the car registration ... how the fudge am I going to pay for FM?"

Well, it's not the quest that matters as much as the spoils. Good luck with your Fort Max!

Fortress Maximus has been secured.

Not as exciting as last year's "quest", but good news to wake up to none the less.
Awesome news Burn.
With your new found photo skills, I hope you'll give us the low down.

Burn wrote:Fortress Maximus has been secured.

Maximum Fortitude!

WE NEED MOAR PICS

Burn wrote:Fortress Maximus has been secured.

Nice!

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I never saw Metroplex or Devastator as my mass retails. Never reached the local Walmarts, TRU or Target.

I did however hear that Metroplex was at a Costco near me, but my near I mean the nearest is 3 hours away

But does it matter if they are in brick and mortar stores for those big box retailers like Walmart, TRU or Target? Its the same prices and discounts online and collectors know to find them there. Its not like them being on the shelves helps them sell more when the price is that big.

It was more me commenting on seeing titans in stores, not necessarily that buying them in store was better

I see Sorry for being a d#@k.

PS: Woah, that word isnt censored, oh well, I will self censur it.

You weren't being a Richard at all! ha ha ha.

Again, I'm happy just to help folks narrow the field to find what they are looking for.

Dr Va'al wrote:

Burn wrote:Fortress Maximus has been secured.

Maximum Fortitude!

WE NEED MOAR PICS

And a pictorial review we can news! (pretty please?)

btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

There will be, we just don't know what it will look like yet

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

There will be, we just don't know what it will look like yet

Just curious, but what's the source on that? It's rather odd there has been NO reveal at all for an SDCC edition of Fortress Maximus so close to the convention. Other Hasbro exclusives for the show were unveiled many weeks ago, including a Transformers set.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

There will be, we just don't know what it will look like yet

Just curious, but what's the source on that? It's rather odd there has been NO reveal at all for an SDCC edition of Fortress Maximus so close to the convention. Other Hasbro exclusives for the show were unveiled many weeks ago, including a Transformers set.

It was on the leaked art for fort max, he is also seen on the art for the windblade sdcc set, he is to include the master sword (apparently)

Wolfman Jake wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

There will be, we just don't know what it will look like yet

Just curious, but what's the source on that? It's rather odd there has been NO reveal at all for an SDCC edition of Fortress Maximus so close to the convention. Other Hasbro exclusives for the show were unveiled many weeks ago, including a Transformers set.

This is all we have:



Everything else has been pure speculation based on this.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:btw isn't there gonna be a SDCC Fort Max

with chrome parts on it.....ect

There will be, we just don't know what it will look like yet

Just curious, but what's the source on that? It's rather odd there has been NO reveal at all for an SDCC edition of Fortress Maximus so close to the convention. Other Hasbro exclusives for the show were unveiled many weeks ago, including a Transformers set.

This is all we have:



Everything else has been pure speculation based on this.

I really wonder what the hold up is, unless Hasbro has been waiting on some possible retooling from Takara to incorporate into the SDCC release. It's getting pretty late in the game for that kind of stuff, though. I'd imagine production has to be nearly finished by now if they are going to release a Fort Max in time for SDCC next month.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I really wonder what the hold up is, unless Hasbro has been waiting on some possible retooling from Takara to incorporate into the SDCC release. It's getting pretty late in the game for that kind of stuff, though. I'd imagine production has to be nearly finished by now if they are going to release a Fort Max in time for SDCC next month.

Is there retooling on the Takara one? I thought it was a straight redeco, for the body at least.

I'm kinda sad that I can't get Metroplex from T30. If I had him, I'd be more excited to get Trypticon probably. I am crossing my fingers though for a Titan Class Predaking. I think a Titan Omega Supreme would be awesome though.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I really wonder what the hold up is, unless Hasbro has been waiting on some possible retooling from Takara to incorporate into the SDCC release. It's getting pretty late in the game for that kind of stuff, though. I'd imagine production has to be nearly finished by now if they are going to release a Fort Max in time for SDCC next month.

Is there retooling on the Takara one? I thought it was a straight redeco, for the body at least.

Cerebros might be a retool for Takara. Also, the Master Sword that rumor suggests would be included in the SDCC version may be something that Takara is developing themselves, since it's solely a Japanese Fort Max reference. The US release never had one, nor did his brief depictions in the cartoon, from what I remember.

Seriously, I prefer Hasbro to do this to Blurr rather than the color scheme that they painted him in.

HBGoo1984 wrote:Seriously, I prefer Hasbro to do this to Blurr rather than the color scheme that they painted him in.

In other words, you'd rather Hasbro's looked like Takara's:

HBGoo1984 wrote:Seriously, I prefer Hasbro to do this to Blurr rather than the color scheme that they painted him in.

"Paint"??? What is this "Paint" you speak of?



Seriously though, Hasbro's Blurr is just Blue plastic with a slightly different shade of blue plastic. There is pretty much no paint on him aside from some silver highlights here and there.