New Images - Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Reflector Prototype and Caliburst

SG-27 Caliburst and SG-28 Decepticon Reflector...

Wait a minute... Not "Refraktor"?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SG-27 Caliburst and SG-28 Decepticon Reflector...

Wait a minute... Not "Refraktor"?

Yeah, I first noticed in the preorders, his name is Reflector

I guess Takara doesn't have the same Trademark issues with the name that Hasbro might have.

Sabrblade wrote:I guess Takara doesn't have the same Trademark issues with the name that Hasbro might have.

... despite having the "Decepticon" prefix. Quite funny how one area doesn't need while the other doesn't.

Sabrblade wrote:I guess Takara doesn't have the same Trademark issues with the name that Hasbro might have.

As I just wrote above, its still unclear for Hasbro themselves: https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... e/hse3432c

I'm torn on Barricade.
I like the idea of character geting recognition and being adapted on other versions,but he looks like he could have more detail.

These G1 inspired line keep absorving details from other parts o the frachise,so much so that I personally think being G1 inspired isn't that much of descriptive term for design.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!

This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

TulioDude wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!

This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

But in Drift's case, its bringing IDW verse to an old school G1 setting, not movie inspired. Eslecially since it reflects the decepticon aspect which is not a big part of the movie character.

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!

This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

But in Drift's case, its bringing IDW verse to an old school G1 setting, not movie inspired. Eslecially since it reflects the decepticon aspect which is not a big part of the movie character.

Retro G1 Deadlock model sheet. There's an AoE and regular Drift deco version too

I'm calling it now: Hasbro has a Deadlock head built into Springer. Whether or not it'll see use, who knows?

Imagine the 2nd line would be beast wars but based from their cybertronian forms (IDW) (Still waiting for Apeface.)

More Walmart sadness! I stopped by one I checked yesterday again tonight just to make sure that the Transformers figures weren't in a different section, as they were in a different Walmart I visited last week. Sure enough, it was still just that lonely Studio Series Dropkick and nothing else. I tried another Walmart after that, and all they had was one SIEGE Megatron and three G1 Optimus Primes. I guess that's an improvement? I asked the guy stocking the toy aisles what was going on with the lack of Transformers figures. I pointed out that this was the third Walmart in the area with next to nothing in stock for any Transformers figures. He thought maybe they were all cleared out for "a new line" coming out. I tried to explain to him that the new lines had already come out a few months ago and that they are way behind on the latest stuff. This seemed to be beyond his understanding. Target is practically the only game in town now for collectors.

I'd be surprised if there will be Micromaster Combiners, that will be fun for both and

Does Hasbro already have a release date for Reflector?

If not, I'm thinking to go ahead and pre-order three from Takara. But those won't be out till August.

Albatross250 wrote:I'd be surprised if there will be Micromaster Combiners, that will be fun for both and

I don't think that's what you meant to say, but yes, I will be surprised if they do Micromaster combiners. Hasbro has never showed much interest in them before aside from some late exclusives and I'm not at all convinced that they actually care about the Micromasters they're doing now. Half-teams and half-assed weapon modes aren't exactly filling me with confidence that they'll ever do more than the minimum to fill the Legends price point.

Emerje

Cyberpath wrote:Does Hasbro already have a release date for Reflector?

If not, I'm thinking to go ahead and pre-order three from Takara. But those won't be out till August.

Its about the same. Hasbro preorders are due July
https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... e/hse3432c

william-james88 wrote:Its about the same. Hasbro preorders are due July
https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... e/hse3432c

That's also for three Red Alerts and two Brunts though. I haven't seen any other pre-orders for the Hasbro release.

I wonder if Takara will announce an MP Reflector not long after I get this. Mind you, it could be relatively soon, with the S1 Decepticon cast nearly complete, special teams aside.

Anyone else think that they have a little too much greeble? I have yet to receive any SIEGE figures so maybe it looks less noticeable in-hand. Nice of them to spare him of the war paint though.

Cyberpath wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Its about the same. Hasbro preorders are due July
https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... e/hse3432c

That's also for three Red Alerts and two Brunts though. I haven't seen any other pre-orders for the Hasbro release.

I wonder if Takara will announce an MP Reflector not long after I get this. Mind you, it could be relatively soon, with the S1 Decepticon cast nearly complete, special teams aside.

Anyone else think that they have a little too much greeble? I have yet to receive any SIEGE figures so maybe it looks less noticeable in-hand. Nice of them to spare him of the war paint though.

The greebling is fine on all the toys I have so far. But the worst offender was Chromia and she hasnt come out yet (nor will I own her).

And I get what you mean now about the preorders. There is this thing where Walmart has to have a head start on deluxes, and so Habro preorders for anything before their big toy fair initiative usually ends up close to release date.

Also with this wave having 3 reflectors per case I just dont know how collectables retailers will be doing their preorders.

While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one), it may also now harbour some new toys. The wave 2 Transformers Siege deluxes have been found there. This wave includes Ironhide, Sixgun, Chromia and Prowl. They each come two per case. This particular sighting comes from a Walmart in Columbia, Missouri, and was reported by MelodiousGiant04 on the TFW boards.

Let us know if you will be picking up the whole wave or just a few and when you do get the toys, let us know what you think of them. If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

While the wave 2 voyager bots were also found recently, we still have yet to see the leader, Battle Master and Micro Master class at retail, so if you find them, let us know.

Crap baskets...-I’m flying out for my vacation in 6 house and this is almost tempting to go check out a couple. I found soundwave and starscream this week and I know Wednesday’s are days when new figures are seen

william-james88 wrote:The greebling is fine on all the toys I have so far. But the worst offender was Chromia and she hasnt come out yet (nor will I own her).

And I get what you mean now about the preorders. There is this thing where Walmart has to have a head start on deluxes, and so Habro preorders for anything before their big toy fair initiative usually ends up close to release date.

Also with this wave having 3 reflectors per case I just dont know how collectables retailers will be doing their preorders.

Thanks, Will!

WOW! Now that's distribution for you!
If they're showing up in next to nowhere Columbia, They could just as easily be in my neck of the woods! (One tick closer to somewhere. )

Better feed the hounds and and tip the arrows. It's hunting time!

Bakugan? Get the heck outta there!

That Sixgun art is glorious!

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!

This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

But in Drift's case, its bringing IDW verse to an old school G1 setting, not movie inspired. Eslecially since it reflects the decepticon aspect which is not a big part of the movie character.

But IDW Drift (Deadlock) was not a Triple Chsnger, so a Springer redeco would be more in line with Movie Drift, than IDW. Although their safest bet would probably be to do an amalgamation of them and give us the triple changer as IDW Drift.

Or Deadlock. I could use him as a seperate chsracter. Nice color scheme

Flashwave wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!

This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

But in Drift's case, its bringing IDW verse to an old school G1 setting, not movie inspired. Eslecially since it reflects the decepticon aspect which is not a big part of the movie character.

But IDW Drift (Deadlock) was not a Triple Chsnger, so a Springer redeco would be more in line with Movie Drift, than IDW. Although their safest bet would probably be to do an amalgamation of them and give us the triple changer as IDW Drift.

Or Deadlock. I could use him as a seperate chsracter. Nice color scheme

The point of making Drift out of Springer is because of Guidi having done another piece of fanart of G1 Drift (well, Deadlock) from Springer:

william-james88 wrote:While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one)...

Salt in the wound, Will.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one)...

Salt in the wound, Will.

I've explained this before though. I know different members live in different population centers. I literally can drive in any direction and hit 10 different Walmarts in 30 minuets or less (when I visited all in one day last summer it took about 4 hours). If we say, reduced that number to 2 instead of 10, its likely the toy sections would more like they do in Canada

blackeyedprime wrote:Omegas art doesnt even resemble the toy, the toys faction symbol is too low down among other things.

Still not sold on the micromaster cars humping each other = weapon thing but wanting them at some point (ideally half price and being able to complete full teams)

If the gun barrels were painted, or some sort of plug-in blast effect were included the cars would be more convincing as a weapon. As-is it's a very meh look. Maybe someone on Shapeways will help them out on that.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one)...

Salt in the wound, Will.

Haha, couldnt resist I think this thread was full of walmart woes recently that it was just too perfect not to include.
And it's a way of showing casual members and viewers that this site has more fun things to offer, plus making a ho hum article all the more fun and cheeky

Still looking for Wave 1 in my area

So, as a guy whose opinion means literally nothing to anyone, I kinda wanna throw my hat into the ring about the recent figures. First, Barricade. I can see why people are disappointed. A straight repaint of Prowl for the introduction of one of the movie series' most iconic Decepticons is a bit lame. That said, I can't help but like him. Quite a lot really. I just love the colors. Black and purple? Yes please. Definitely will be picking this guy up when he *eventually* reaches the UK.

Also, Reflector? Eh, he's cool I guess. I dunno, I've never really cared about this guy, and this figure doesn't change that. Not that he's bad or anything, just does nothing for me. He cool for people that want him. He's a little greebly too.

I'm interested in what Skywarp will look like too, because, as we all know, Skywarp is the best Seeker. It's a fact.

Gemstonegemini wrote:So, as a guy whose opinion means literally nothing to anyone, I kinda wanna throw my hat into the ring about the recent figures. First, Barricade. I can see why people are disappointed. A straight repaint of Prowl for the introduction of one of the movie series' most iconic Decepticons is a bit lame. That said, I can't help but like him. Quite a lot really. I just love the colors. Black and purple? Yes please. Definitely will be picking this guy up when he *eventually* reaches the UK.

Also, Reflector? Eh, he's cool I guess. I dunno, I've never really cared about this guy, and this figure doesn't change that. Not that he's bad or anything, just does nothing for me. He cool for people that want him. He's a little greebly too.

I'm interested in what Skywarp will look like too, because, as we all know, Skywarp is the best Seeker. It's a fact.

Hey! Those are good opinions!

I actually never realized that Guidi might have done Springer as Drift because of the triple-changer thing (I know that version isn't one, but it's still a connection).

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one)...

Salt in the wound, Will.

I've explained this before though. I know different members live in different population centers. I literally can drive in any direction and hit 10 different Walmarts in 30 minuets or less (when I visited all in one day last summer it took about 4 hours). If we say, reduced that number to 2 instead of 10, its likely the toy sections would more like they do in Canada

That's basically my situation, my two local Walmarts (Waterville and Augusta, right in the capital) are both about 20 or so miles apart, I just happen to live between the two. The next nearest Walmarts are much further than 30 miles from me. Sadly neither of my Walmarts look anything like Will's, the only thing that's been restocked since January is Studio Series wave 1 Leaders and Deluxe wave 5. Everything else is fairly barren with only a few stragglers left behind.

Emerje

I just hope Skywarp won't be that exclusive. If he's Generations Select then he should at least show up on BBTS.

I just thought of something that can draw a stronger connection between Smokescreen and Barricade as his new G1-styled repaint. Perhaps now they are brothers, split from the same spark, but each got different ends of the "alignment spectrums" from Dungeons & Dragons. Smokescreen is a Chaotic Good Autobot. He's on the side that's fighting for the right reasons, but he's a trickster by nature and isn't averse to cheating to win the day for the good guys. Barricade is a Lawful Evil Decepticon. He uses the law and his station as an enforcer to justify his inherent cruelty and sadism, in the name of Decepticon supremacy. It makes it a little easier to have a mold split between two factions. Neither brother is a perfect example of his chosen cause. Together as one being, they might instead be Neutral, taking neither side. The Smokescreen "body type" could fit with either side depending on the bot's personality.

william-james88 wrote:While your local Walmart's Transformers section might look like a ghost town (unlike my awesome one), it may also now harbour some new toys. The wave 2 Transformers Siege deluxes have been found there. This wave includes Ironhide, Sixgun, Chromia and Prowl. They each come two per case. This particular sighting comes from a Walmart in Columbia, Missouri, and was reported by MelodiousGiant04 on the TFW boards.

Meanwhile on the opposite side of the state, I'm happy that my Walmarts and Targets finally stocked Studio Series Sideswipe...

Had an extremely rare free day today (I'm off for my birthday, wife is at work, kids at school), so for old times sake, I did a total store hunt. I hit 3 targets, 8 walmarts, and 4 Meijers.



All I found was a single Siege Soundwave and Starscream at the last Walmart I hit.


Anyway, I picked up soudwave, since Starscream's 'detachable body' has me less than thrilled.



I have made no secret that I overwhelmingly detest the Siege line. Soundwave (much like Megatron) is a massive exception to that. This is just an all around amazing figure. The only complaint I have is the battle damage, which remains the worst idea Hasbro has ever had.


Seriously, if it wasn't for said deco, this would be an absolute perfect update to the original toy.

I got a question for you Siege Soundwave owners. Is the tape deck door damage painted on or molded in? Also is it on the inside of the door?

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/1103341320133840896

Genius!

That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Wolfman Jake wrote:That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Sounds like you're over-reacting; he's just trying to have some fun with his toy for kids; it's a humorous picture

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Sounds like you're over-reacting; he's just trying to have some fun with his toy for kids; it's a humorous picture

I don't think Jake was really responding directly to that picture/post, more using it as a springboard to respond to the wider complaints about Siege Starscream.

Wow, until Peaugh made his review of Siege Soundwave, I never knew that if you flip open the bottom of his box, you can find an image of his lamppost mode underneath. It's a cool little thing and I love it. Link to Peaugh's video:

https://youtu.be/tEhKVrIWF48

Also there is a Siege Starscream review as well:

https://youtu.be/D2OtGHoqSNM

See I need to be back home in Missouri. Wishful thinking, but I am keeping my eyes open here while I am in Virginia. Fingers crossed. My only current fortune, is finding SS #37 Rampage and Siege Starscream today.


SGM

SGMLordMirage wrote:See I need to be back home in Missouri. Wishful thinking, but I am keeping my eyes open here while I am in Virginia. Fingers crossed. My only current fortune, is finding SS #37 Rampage and Siege Starscream today.


SGM

Dude, you just found 2 brand new figures that have been hitting stores for less than a week. You’re acting like you haven’t found anything.

Very true and probably misspoken or the choice of words. It’s hard to tell depending on how many people post pictures of what they find. Guess I took that one for granted. I will say I am very happy with what I found, though I will say I am anxious to see Soundwave in person and OP from the Bumblebee MOvie. Thanks you Rodimus Prime 13!