New Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave, 37 Jaguar, 38 Condor, 39 Brainstorm
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Posted by Rainmaker on August 5th, 2016 @ 5:34am CDT
Soundwave and Laserbeak look way betetr
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 5:56am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:08am CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:23am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:31am CDT
Also an image from IDW. It's unfair to not have that when the thrilling 30 and headscuplt for the Titans return is where they're based from.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:38am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
I can't quite see it; what's different about it? I'd look again but I'd feel uncomfortable looking at Soundwave's crotch that much.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:48am CDT
One LG39 please...'nuff said!
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:50am CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:09am CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
I can't quite see it; what's different about it? I'd look again but I'd feel uncomfortable looking at Soundwave's crotch that much.
The Hasbro version above is missing the cover with the buttons on it that are shown on the Takara Tomy version. The Hasbro version does have it, it's just an issue with the one on display.
Emerje
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:14am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:22am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:30am CDT
The Takara-head looks good, all it needs is a faceplate. It looks like it's got indents between his face and "sideburns".. maybe enough to tab a fan-made faceplate.
Mold-wise, the wings on his shoulders look goofy, good thing they can be swept back though.
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:34am CDT
It would be nice if the wings could collapse a little. I'm actually surprised they don't! A little double hinge in the middle of them or something.Cyberpath wrote:I like the Takara deco the best, but with the Hasbro-head.
The Takara-head looks good, all it needs is a faceplate. It looks like it's got indents between his face and "sideburns".. maybe enough to tab a fan-made faceplate.
Mold-wise, the wings on his shoulders look goofy, good thing they can be swept back though.
Also, as I've said before, I needs the faces! No faceplates for me. Unless it was supposed to have one. In what I'm referencing the figure to in my head
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:42am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:45am CDT
Agreed. And that is really the only reason I want Blaster, break-battles between Metroplex and Fort Max. It's gonna take a while to get the poses right, but it'll be worth it.Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, another hinge would have looked good and closer to the cartoon.
*dat boombox snip*
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:50am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Agreed. And that is really the only reason I want Blaster, break-battles between Metroplex and Fort Max. It's gonna take a while to get the poses right, but it'll be worth it.Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, another hinge would have looked good and closer to the cartoon.
*dat boombox snip*
Posted by Randomhero on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:54am CDT
Doesn't matter if you like the comics are not. It's what it's based on. His entire head is based on IDWs head and the colors are as well.
It's like posting a comparison of apples and oranges and saying "I know I should compare an orange with a clementine but I don't like clementines"
Posted by Va'al on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:03am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:27am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:28am CDT
And Cyberpath, here is that image in colour:
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:36am CDT
The mold itself, yeah, but Takara's deco was more toy-accurate than not, whereas the Hasbro version of the Voyager (which is also missing from this comparison) was IDW-based in both mold and deco.Randomhero wrote:Doesn't matter if you like the comics are not. It's what it's based on. His entire head is based on IDWs head and the colors are as well.
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 8:57am CDT
I feel like we saw that picture somewhere..AND maybe I should wait until the eventual TwinCast redeco for even MORE "Headmasters" accuracy!! I mean, yeah, Blaster WAS in there, but he was only there for a few episodesprimalxconvoy wrote:I wonder if he can bend his arm enough to perch Blaster on/over his shoulder like a true 80's hero on the street would?
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:01am CDT
These all come from a Japanese listing which shows that, surprisingly, this toy is not at a much higher price point than the other Legends Leader figures, even though it towers them and has more retooling. The MSRP is 8500 Yen ($84 USD), which is only 500 yen higher than other leader figures (about a $5 difference), and he will retail anywhere between $57 and his MSRP in Japan.
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:11am CDT
william-james88 wrote:We have the best look yet at his headmaster figure which is Hi-Q.
But... it's Ginrai...
In any case that Optimus head looks really nice. It's a pretty cool extra.
Posted by steals_your_goats on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:20am CDT
So pretty.
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:21am CDT
The charts aren't designed the map out every source of inspiration behind the new figures. They are mostly a tool to help decide which version to get (Hasbro or Takara) based on which is closer to the cartoon (or toy) since this is what I'm interested in. If a character has a Masterpiece figure I might throw it in for fun, to see how its cartoon-accuracy compares with the new figure.Randomhero wrote:Doesn't matter if you like the comics are not. It's what it's based on. His entire head is based on IDWs head and the colors are as well.
It's like posting a comparison of apples and oranges and saying "I know I should compare an orange with a clementine but I don't like clementines"
If someone wants to make ones with the IDW designs they are certainly welcome to.
william-james88 wrote:I was looking at pics of Brainstorm's vehicle mode in the US cartoon and that voyager still nails it better than all the rest:
And Cyberpath, here is that image in colour:
Thanks, Will! But yeah, that's the one that I found, too. Unfortunately it's from the Marvel Comics profile pages; they tend to be more crude and don't always match the actual animation cels...
I considered painting the lineart from The Ark, but it seems that particular one was traced (rather poorly) from the Marvel Comic profile, so didn't think it was worth the effort of laying down the flats.
Wish there were a book with all the colour models from the Sunbow show.
Want.william-james88 wrote:
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:26am CDT
Even if it's a mold that based directly on a non-cartoon comic design more than anything? In the case of Voyager Brainstorm, it's based on Nick Roche's MTMTE design, with the Hasbro version reflecting that in its deco while Takara tried coloring it more like the 1987 toy's deco. In this example, it's a mold sculpted to resemble neither the original toy nor any of the cartoon models, and is colored by both companies in non-cartoon-based decos.Cyberpath wrote:The charts aren't designed the map out every source of inspiration behind the new figures. They are mostly a tool to help decide which version to get (Hasbro or Takara) based on which is closer to the cartoon (or toy) since this is what I'm interested in.Randomhero wrote:Doesn't matter if you like the comics are not. It's what it's based on. His entire head is based on IDWs head and the colors are as well.
It's like posting a comparison of apples and oranges and saying "I know I should compare an orange with a clementine but I don't like clementines"
Frankly, the Voyager might as well have been left out from this comparison altogether since it's not based on what you're interested in.
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:28am CDT
Staring right into my soul. Curses!Cyberpath wrote:Want.william-james88 wrote:
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:30am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:I don't usually fan boy over toys (mostly because I hate fanboys) but God damn Ginrai looks absolutely perfect. I'm so glad I waited for him to be revealed.
I am such a sucker for value and getting more ang for your buck and man even if I dont like those feet, this toy has that. I always assumed he'd be at a higher price point since TFSource is charging 95$ for him. That turns out to be 10$ more than the MSRP and its a nonsense figure, especially when they charge 75$ for Blaster. Probably curreny caught up to them in between the months.
Anyways, I thought he was a higher price point. But he isnt, and yet they give you all that retooling and he is huge compared to the Hasbro leader. Thats good value and I might jump on him now.
Posted by Cobotron on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:39am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:I feel like we saw that picture somewhere..primalxconvoy wrote:I wonder if he can bend his arm enough to perch Blaster on/over his shoulder like a true 80's hero on the street would?
Til all are JAMMIN' ON THE ONE!
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:46am CDT
Thank you CobroCobotron wrote:Til all are JAMMIN' ON THE ONE!itscramtastic wrote:I feel like we saw that picture somewhere..primalxconvoy wrote:I wonder if he can bend his arm enough to perch Blaster on/over his shoulder like a true 80's hero on the street would?
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:48am CDT
Posted by xMXUx on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:13pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:This all looks awesome...and expensive. Sorry Takara, I'm going all in on this line, so I gotta go with Hasbro.
I'm stuck in a similar dilemma. This is currently what I am struggling with: what if Takara releases Godbomber to go with their Ginrai? Hasbro might do it for theirs, but what if one looks much better? It keeps happening in the RID line where a cool product gets released only to be outdone by and even better one.
Man I just wished I saw what they were all planning before i made my purchase.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:
Best image here, no doubt.
And everytime I see Ginrai, I look at those feet. that is the one thing that I do not like, Godbomber or no
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:42pm CDT
Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 5th, 2016 @ 12:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Nope. I ignore the japanese continuity. That there is my updated Hi-Q no matter what it says on the box!
This is first time I've actually been excited about a G1 Optimus Prime since the original Powermaster figure (the only one of my original collection I still own).
Just wondering if I will repaint Prime's eyes red or not. I do prefer the red.
(base mode still looks like garbage but I won't use that anyways, especially as the main reason I used it on the original figure was for when using the smaller Prime figure formed from the cab which this doesn't do)
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Nope. I ignore the japanese continuity. That there is my updated Hi-Q no matter what it says on the box!
It might say Hi Q on the box, who knows.
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Nope. I ignore the japanese continuity. That there is my updated Hi-Q no matter what it says on the box!
It might say Hi Q on the box, who knows.
But it already says Ginrai on the box
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:25pm CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Nope. I ignore the japanese continuity. That there is my updated Hi-Q no matter what it says on the box!
It might say Hi Q on the box, who knows.
But it already says Ginrai on the box
We have pics of this toy in box? Can you give me a link, that would be newsworthy.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
I like Brainstorm's colours but he just looks weird without his mouthplate to me. I know it's japanese cartoon accurate but screw that. I want the Walgreens one if I can find it available to the UK.
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Ginrai, you mean.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Properly coloured Hi-Q!
Nope. I ignore the japanese continuity. That there is my updated Hi-Q no matter what it says on the box!
It might say Hi Q on the box, who knows.
But it already says Ginrai on the box
We have pics of this toy in box? Can you give me a link, that would be newsworthy.
No, just the fact it's called LG35 Ginrai kind of hints that that's what's gonna be printed on the box
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
Kurona wrote:No, just the fact it's called LG35 Ginrai kind of hints that that's what's gonna be printed on the box
That varies from place to place. His real name on the site with this listing was actually Super Jinrai with a J. So I dont know if that will be there too. The main reason I dontk now anymore is because a lot of Convoys have become Optimus in English on the Japanese boxes.
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:No, just the fact it's called LG35 Ginrai kind of hints that that's what's gonna be printed on the box
That varies from place to place. His real name on the site with this listing was actually Super Jinrai with a J. So I dont know if that will be there too. The main reason I dontk now anymore is because a lot of Convoys have become Optimus in English on the Japanese boxes.
Well, I mean; Ginrai or some variation thereof. Translations differ from place to place.
Posted by Ultra Markus on August 5th, 2016 @ 9:57pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:itscramtastic wrote:I feel like we saw that picture somewhere..primalxconvoy wrote:I wonder if he can bend his arm enough to perch Blaster on/over his shoulder like a true 80's hero on the street would?
Til all are JAMMIN' ON THE ONE!
now get one of him in a break dance position with blaster
Posted by Sabrblade on August 5th, 2016 @ 10:01pm CDT
But Ginrai isn't a Convoy. Japan knows he's not the same character as Optimus like Convoy is. They're the ones who made the distinction in the first place.william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:No, just the fact it's called LG35 Ginrai kind of hints that that's what's gonna be printed on the box
That varies from place to place. His real name on the site with this listing was actually Super Jinrai with a J. So I dont know if that will be there too. The main reason I dontk now anymore is because a lot of Convoys have become Optimus in English on the Japanese boxes.
And outside of special cases like Scorponok/MegaZarak and Fortress/Fortress Maximus, the little Headmasters don't get their own unique names in Japanese fiction, as they're the same identity as the larger bodies. The little Headmaster here is still Ginrai just as the Transtector body is Ginrai (though, in this case, this toy represents Ginrai's Double On mode Super Ginrai, as the normal Ginrai transtector cab is fully integrated with the trailer this time around).
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 10:37pm CDT