New Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG21 Hardhead

Randomhero wrote:-looks at first picture- looks good

-looks at second picture- dammit Japan...

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things play out with Brainstorm. He did have a mouth in the "Headmasters" cartoon, but he's more iconic to me with the mouthplate. I think the decoes between Hasbro and Takara will play a big part in which face type I choose, though if it does end up that Takara has a vastly superior deco (odds are in favor of this, honestly) sporting his full face, I'll have to go that route. At least with IDW in recent years we've seen Brainstorm a few times with his mouthplate removed, revealing his mouth underneath. So, there IS precedence for the mouthplate-less look in some western G1 media.

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things play out with Brainstorm. He did have a mouth in the "Headmasters" cartoon, but he's more iconic to me with the mouthplate. I think the decoes between Hasbro and Takara will play a big part in which face type I choose, though if it does end up that Takara has a vastly superior deco (odds are in favor of this, honestly) sporting his full face, I'll have to go that route. At least with IDW in recent years we've seen Brainstorm a few times with his mouthplate removed, revealing his mouth underneath. So, there IS precedence for the mouthplate-less look in some western G1 media.

I could see Takara giving Brainstorm a new mouthed head for two reasons: 1) show-accuracy to The Headmasters cartoon, and 2) Japan already got a mouthplated Brainstorm with the Voyager mold, so a mouthed version of the Deluxe mold would be something different for that market.

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

ZeroWolf wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh, I didn't realize this guy had a different head with a mouth. Well now alongside Blurr that's the second Takara version of a TR figure I want...
I can at least trust if they make Brainstorm without a faceplate I won't want it. That's just not right to me

Hey, the faceplate is removable in IDW

william-james88 wrote:I dont get the second pic, why is he heavily bowing before an anime girl cutout?

Cyberpath wrote:

Hardhead





Skullcruncher

MGrotusque wrote:What's the stand that is being used for these pics. Anybody have an idea?

Kurona wrote:Every picture I see of Skullcruncher just makes me want him more and more. I **** need that crocodile.

Also... starting to not like the Takara Hardhead as much. I was thinking of it at first because mouth, but the colours are waaaaaay too saturated; they need to be a bit darker than they are to fit.

MGrotusque wrote:These side by side comparisons pics that are being posted are absolutely fantastic. Thanx for taking the time and doing this. It's extremely helpful in my decision making process.

Takara Skullcruncher all the way. The headmaster face is 100% better plus they painted the croc teeth. Nice touch.

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

titans__guns.jpg

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

titans__guns.jpg

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

Sabrblade wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Counterpunch wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Cyberpath wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Thanks for the breakdown

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Thanks for the breakdown

I thought that Hardhead vehicle was Terri-Bull's. Nightbeat's is that drill tank.

きっとゴーストになってしまったスタースクリームには、ガルバトロンの砲台モードはトラウマなんだろうなぁ。

「これは良い物を手に入れたぞ、流石ゴーストスタースクリームだ。」 「コラー！返せー、ワシの物だぞー!!」 運命の出会いが今ここに♪

Agamemnon wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

Same with the original g1 guns. Also hollow.

I think it might have to do with little boys and the "B" in "BFG"

Cyberpath wrote:

きっとゴーストになってしまったスタースクリームには、ガルバトロンの砲台モードはトラウマなんだろうなぁ。

「これは良い物を手に入れたぞ、流石ゴーストスタースクリームだ。」 「コラー！返せー、ワシの物だぞー!!」 運命の出会いが今ここに♪

fenrir72 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

I think it might have to do with little boys and the "B" in "BFG"