New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown

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Thanks to regular source of news from Weibo, the user tf-factory or 淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂, and via a notification from fellow Seibertronian westjames/notirish, we have some stock product images of the second wave of the Hasbro and Takara Tomy Transformers Studio Series line, featuring a Decepticon heavy line-up with Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown squaring off alongside Autobot Jazz.

You can check out all of the images below, which include looks at the backdrops, accessories, shots of both robot and vehicle modes with sizes (for the most part), and a couple of comparisons between the actual figure and the art of the character that they are intended to bring to life in plastic form. Give them all a look, and let us know what you think of them in the Energon Pub discussion boards!

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Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955089)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2018 @ 9:59am CDT

Both Jazz and Lockdown look FANTASTIC! Jazz will be a sureshot purchase.

Not much interests in Brawl.

Megatron is quite barren or plain compared to the others. His base plastics should have had a shine like Optimus's red. I'm still getting him though.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955094)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:20am CDT

Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955095)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:28am CDT

These look really good! I LOVE that shot of Lockdown next to the Prime 1 Studio statue. Megatron's going to need some silver paint, but the mold looks good.

Also, I'm glad they're using the movie-styled Autobot logos on the right side of the displays now! It was bugging me that the wave 1 figures have a G1 styled Autobot logo.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955108)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:15am CDT

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:These look really good! I LOVE that shot of Lockdown next to the Prime 1 Studio statue. Megatron's going to need some silver paint, but the mold looks good.

Also, I'm glad they're using the movie-styled Autobot logos on the right side of the displays now! It was bugging me that the wave 1 figures have a G1 styled Autobot logo.

That Lockdown look WAY better than the AoE version. Even though I have Peru Kill and the oversized AoE KO, I may just buy that one for my "standard scale" movie display.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955111)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:23am CDT

Brawl looks much better now he's actually transformed properly. He's definitely on the bucket list.

Lockdown looks awesome, I wish he was bigger though.

Jazz looks a bit wonky somehow.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955113)
Posted by Ballistic90 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:54am CDT

Jazz looks nice, but I'm fine with the human alliance figure. Lockdown is a good design, but I'm not too interested in him. I never liked that Megatron design, so I'll pass on him, despite the competent interpretation.

Strangely enough, Brawl is the one I'm most likely to get. His head looks squashed, but I kinda like him, and i want a nice accurate version of him.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955114)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:55am CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

What disappoints you about Grimlock?

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955116)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2018 @ 12:05pm CDT

Really don't like Jazz's upside-down chest bumper, or his car hood upper arms. OR his knee pads coming up from his ankles.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955119)
Posted by Victinoko on April 22nd, 2018 @ 12:34pm CDT

Lockdown looks great! And brawl looks better than he did in the stock photos, not getting either one though. Megatron still looks amazing and I'll probably get him eventually.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955122)
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on April 22nd, 2018 @ 1:33pm CDT

Lockdown be look'n fine!

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955126)
Posted by Octobotimus on April 22nd, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

so your one of those people that hates good figures? got it....

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955136)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 22nd, 2018 @ 2:44pm CDT

That lockdown is awesome, only thing he's missing is the head cannon

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955137)
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 22nd, 2018 @ 2:45pm CDT

How big is Jazz? If these are to be to scale, and Jazz was smaller than Bumblebee...

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955147)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 22nd, 2018 @ 3:30pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:so your one of those people that hates good figures? got it....

I said nothing about hating.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

What disappoints you about Grimlock?

First and foremost, I hate the (lack of) characterization and design the most out of all movie verse characters. So I'm biased.

Second, I found it to be a rather simple figure for a leader class. Plus, the extremely loose and floppy but and crotch flaps in dino mode were a huge letdown. The figure looks really good though, bad design or not, he looks like he stepped right off the screen.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955160)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2018 @ 4:08pm CDT

Being complicated or not is irrelevant for any size class. The point is the fun factor and how well the thing pull of the modes.

As for the skirt flaps, it may be a problem but it's pretty minor. Those are not structural like Leader Dragonstorm's dragon forearms. Mine are very loose and my drangon can only have a groveling pose.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955166)
Posted by nemesis primus on April 22nd, 2018 @ 4:16pm CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:so your one of those people that hates good figures? got it....

I said nothing about hating.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

What disappoints you about Grimlock?

First and foremost, I hate the (lack of) characterization and design the most out of all movie verse characters. So I'm biased.

Second, I found it to be a rather simple figure for a leader class. Plus, the extremely loose and floppy but and crotch flaps in dino mode were a huge letdown. The figure looks really good though, bad design or not, he looks like he stepped right off the screen.

Fair comments really. Grimlock’s biggest downfalls as a figure are the front and back skirt. The front pops off way too easy and the rear has no locking mechanism whatsoever to keep it attached as a tail in dino mode. That said it’s still miles above all previous movie Grimlock toys to date, as much as I liked the original Voyager I can’t look on it as anything more than a chibified kibblebot now. Plus the new Grimlock looks fantastic with TLK Voyager class Scorn.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955174)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 4:49pm CDT

well that confirms Megatron's feet being far from screen accurate.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955177)
Posted by shajaki on April 22nd, 2018 @ 4:56pm CDT

Yo Will! Has SS Thundercracker been sighted in Canada at all?

I'm surprised to see lot's of Americans snagging him what with all their TRU's shutting down :-?

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955192)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2018 @ 5:45pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:well that confirms Megatron's feet being far from screen accurate.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955202)
Posted by Randomhero on April 22nd, 2018 @ 6:31pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:well that confirms Megatron's feet being far from screen accurate.

Could be worse. The rest is pretty damn good and it’s certainly not the first ROTF voyager megs who had accurate feet and nothing else.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955246)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 8:26pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Really don't like Jazz's upside-down chest bumper

Isnt that how its supposed to be?

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955267)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 22nd, 2018 @ 9:12pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Really don't like Jazz's upside-down chest bumper

Isnt that how its supposed to be?

Nope.

The SS toy has the center of the bumper turn right-side-up, but the rest of the bumper still curves downward when it all curves upward on both the movie CG model and the previous Movie Jazz Deluxe toy.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955270)
Posted by bacem on April 22nd, 2018 @ 9:19pm CDT

looking good! lockdown will definitely goes to my list, as well as megatron. as for the rest, still on the fence. i'll wait for review, if i find the transformation interesting and fun, i'll get them too.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955275)
Posted by TulioDude on April 22nd, 2018 @ 9:26pm CDT

I dig those comparsion shots!

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955286)
Posted by Emerje on April 22nd, 2018 @ 9:50pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:well that confirms Megatron's feet being far from screen accurate.

Aside from the inside panels being a little big what isn't screen accurate about the feet? Even in the cross image it looks pretty accurate, miles better than Blackout's feet.

Emerje

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955291)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:25pm CDT

Emerje wrote:Aside from the inside panels being a little big what isn't screen accurate about the feet? Even in the cross image it looks pretty accurate, miles better than Blackout's feet.

The cross image shows why its innacurate. ther are no giant inside panels on his feet in the CG model. But in the toy, theres this whole chunk of kibble where we should be seeing a hole.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955292)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:28pm CDT

I call a misstransformation. Look like those panels can be folded up right on the side of the feet. There will still be kibble, bit it would be good enough.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955295)
Posted by Emerje on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:41pm CDT

No, like I said, the panel is there, it's just much bigger on the figure.

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Granted, it isn't the same shape (what on these figures is), but it's in the same spot and painted up the same way with the two gold piece. I don't know if they could have broken it up any or put it somewhere else, but at least it's on the inside of the foot and easily overlooked I think.

Emerje

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955298)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 10:50pm CDT

I could circle the exact same part in my argument to say just how dissimilar it is. In reality, its just the tank kibble from the front (see below) stuck on somewhere in robot mode.Any similarity is more coincidence than anything else.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955301)
Posted by President-prime on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:00pm CDT

I think voyager scale and bigger are the better figures in this line. The two leader from wave 1 were phenomenal (blackout and grimlock). I’m prob gonna only get Brawl. We’ll see.

Dont know about you guys, but I love kibbles. Streamlined toys are not my thing. I like to know where the vehicle parts came from.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955305)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:14pm CDT

President-prime wrote: Dont know about you guys, but I love kibbles. Streamlined toys are not my thing.

But Grimlock is as streamlined as toys can get.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955307)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:23pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Really don't like Jazz's upside-down chest bumper

Isnt that how its supposed to be?
Nope.

The SS toy has the center of the bumper turn right-side-up, but the rest of the bumper still curves downward when it all curves upward on both the movie CG model and the previous Movie Jazz Deluxe toy.

Even with the sides of the front bumper upside down and the headlights on the shoulders instead of the wrists, Studio Series Jazz looks miles better than the one and done mold he got 10 years ago. He looks nice and sleek instead of squat and bloated. These figures still have some give and take in them, but overall, they look like much better figures than their previous incarnations. The weird feet on TLK Hound bother me, but I can't deny that the rest of the figure is well sculpted and more detailed than his less "accessorized" AoE version.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955311)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:33pm CDT

Jazz's chest here looks similar to the Human Alliance figure with the majority being 'upside down' with the center part rotated round and I'm cool with that. The upper arms look very much like the HA figure too which isn't strictly accurate (the headlights end up on the forearms on the CGI model and original deluxe) and I do wish the feet would done a bit better as they look so stubby compared to previous but eh overall it looks like a solid figure to me.

I'm even liking Brawl here who isn't one of my fave designs but them pics look much better than previous.

Lockdown looks great. Peru Kill is obviously the most accurate toy rendition of him by far but that's like a MPM scale and this new deluxe is leagues ahead of the AoE one.

Megatron looks like such a fun toy but yeah he's gonna get some silver paint put on him. I'd hoped they would have done that themselves but that's fine. I'll do that then. The figure itself looks great.

So yes I'd like them all thank you.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955312)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:34pm CDT

Now I am curious. The HA version also did the upside down bumper. So I thought that was always what was supposed to happen. So in the film, its never upside down, it just deforms itself to give the robot appropriate proportions in his chest.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955313)
Posted by Emerje on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:35pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:I could circle the exact same part in my argument to say just how dissimilar it is. In reality, its just the tank kibble from the front (see below) stuck on somewhere in robot mode.Any similarity is more coincidence than anything else.

I'm fine with considering it a dual purpose part, it's not like the part I circled exists on the figure underneath. Doesn't matter, I'll wait until we get some in-hand shots before I decide if it's really that intrusive to me.

Emerje

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955314)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:35pm CDT

Ironhidensh wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron looks to be the same level of disappointment that Grimlock is on, but I'll buy it anyway. I'm going completionist on this line. First time I've done that since the Unicron Trilogy.

The other 3 look amazingballs though.

What disappoints you about Grimlock?

First and foremost, I hate the (lack of) characterization and design the most out of all movie verse characters. So I'm biased.

Second, I found it to be a rather simple figure for a leader class. Plus, the extremely loose and floppy but and crotch flaps in dino mode were a huge letdown. The figure looks really good though, bad design or not, he looks like he stepped right off the screen.

"Looks like he stepped right off the screen" is really all I need. Simpler transformations don't throw me off if it means the figure looks right in all modes, which it seems like Grimlock does. I'll have to look out for the loose flaps in dino mode. I've softened a bit on Studio Series Bumblebee, though it's still my least favorite acquistion of the series so far because of the roof pieces and arms popping off during transformation. It sounds like at least Grimlock doesn't come apart at the seams, so that's a win in my book.

Side note: How accurate are the yellow, blue, and red used in TLK Slug, Strafe, and Scorn respectively? I know they're played up to be more appealing toys on store shelves, but are those highlights found in their on screen character models? It's hard to tell amongst all the gray and black from screen shots of them, but I think I have seen some red in Scorn and blue in Strage, though I could just be making myself see it. The yellow (or previously purple) for Slug, though, is really tough to justify.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955318)
Posted by william-james88 on April 22nd, 2018 @ 11:41pm CDT

There is defintely some muted red on Scorn, go the the 7 mark below:

And there is some yellow on Slug as well though its not as obvious. Grimlock's green is exactly like the toy, it looks great.

Oh and that clip comes with the iconic lines we expect our nobleand heroic Optimus to say, like "I KILL YOU!" :HEADHURTS:

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955328)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 23rd, 2018 @ 12:25am CDT

william-james88 wrote:There is defintely some muted red on Scorn, go the the 7 mark below:

And there is some yellow on Slug as well though its not as obvious. Grimlock's green is exactly like the toy, it looks great.

Oh and that clip comes with the iconic lines we expect our nobleand heroic Optimus to say, like "I KILL YOU!"

"I came here to kick ass and take faces...and you're all out of faces!" :lol:

I think I'll try to pick up TLK Strafe and Scorn, then. I already got Slug on Saturday from a TRU. They were offering an extra 10% on everything at that location, Transformers included. They should all look great with Studio Series Grimlock.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955376)
Posted by President-prime on April 23rd, 2018 @ 4:56am CDT

Having Dino face split in half and hanging on should us not streamline. But that’s me. I really meant, I like my toys with kibbles. Everything else is just me babbling

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955407)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2018 @ 6:57am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Oh and that clip comes with the iconic lines we expect our nobleand heroic Optimus to say, like "I KILL YOU!"

Don't forget the ever righteous sword-to-throat line of "Defend my family... or die!" >:oP

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955430)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:02am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Oh and that clip comes with the iconic lines we expect our nobleand heroic Optimus to say, like "I KILL YOU!"
Don't forget the ever righteous sword-to-throat line of "Defend my family... or die!"

Well, I'd imagine that Prime would be in a bad mood after finding out that most of his friends had been murdered and melted down. That being said, it was kinda jarring hearing that come from Optimus when I first saw the movie.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955432)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:04am CDT

Slightly off topic, but in a universe where the Decepticons are actually killing people and posing a very real threat (as opposed to, say, building giant purple griffins and getting defeated by a fire extinguisher) and the humans that Optimus gives his all to protect instead start butchering his closest friends, I think his righteous anger is rather justified.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955439)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:27am CDT

...It was the Autobot Grimlock whom Optimus held his sword at throat and threatened with murder.

And the "I'll kill you!" line was yelled at a mindless KSI robot that had no concept of life, death, or opinions on either. Optimus was basically yelling at a machine, as though yelling at it would have made a difference.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955443)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:41am CDT

Black Hat wrote:Slightly off topic, but in a universe where the Decepticons are actually killing people and posing a very real threat (as opposed to, say, building giant purple griffins and getting defeated by a fire extinguisher) and the humans that Optimus gives his all to protect instead start butchering his closest friends, I think his righteous anger is rather justified.

Yeah, Prime's probably had enough by that point of the timeline with the trauma of having had so many close friends killed (some by his own beloved mentor figure, Sentinel) anyways and perhaps is what helped Quintessa turn him into Nemesis since his own resolve had been worn down so much. Maybe I just find him more relatable that way instead of a the optimist (heh) he was moreso in the cartoon (which he can afford to be in that Saturday Morning Cartoon land where nobody dies)

As a kid I had just assumed that part in the 1986 animated film where he turns up and starts blasting Decepticons was the same sorta actual warrior thing that so rarely appeared in the show or comics. I can't imagine he was simply trying to just wound them (even if some of them appeared later on just fine). He was certainly fighting Megatron to the bitter end.

I dunno. Maybe the "I'll kill you" line is a bit strong and strange but I'd rather that than the mopey Prime in some of the later Marvel stories. At least movie Prime gets the job done. No point him having all those cool guns and swords if not gonna use them properly to save us all from being wiped out by properly evil Decepticons.

that's just the way my weird low-intelligence mind perceives things anyway. Gimme more toys.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955444)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:42am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Optimus was basically yelling at a machine, as though yelling at it would have made a difference.

Haven't we all at some point?

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955445)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:45am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:...It was the Autobot Grimlock whom Optimus held his sword at throat and threatened with murder.

And the "I'll kill you!" line was yelled at a mindless KSI robot that had no concept of life, death, or opinions on either. Optimus was basically yelling at a machine, as though yelling at it would have made a difference.

People do that all time from my experience :lol:

especially if they are running late or said machine has just broken ;-)

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955448)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2018 @ 10:58am CDT

We've all threatened to slit our dog's throat? 8-}

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955461)
Posted by YRQRM0 on April 23rd, 2018 @ 11:46am CDT

Brawl looks really nice but I still love the leader version of him, I'll have to pass. Megatron looks nice but super plain paint-wise.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955481)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 23rd, 2018 @ 12:58pm CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Slightly off topic, but in a universe where the Decepticons are actually killing people and posing a very real threat (as opposed to, say, building giant purple griffins and getting defeated by a fire extinguisher) and the humans that Optimus gives his all to protect instead start butchering his closest friends, I think his righteous anger is rather justified.

Yeah, Prime's probably had enough by that point of the timeline with the trauma of having had so many close friends killed (some by his own beloved mentor figure, Sentinel) anyways and perhaps is what helped Quintessa turn him into Nemesis since his own resolve had been worn down so much. Maybe I just find him more relatable that way instead of a the optimist (heh) he was moreso in the cartoon (which he can afford to be in that Saturday Morning Cartoon land where nobody dies)

As a kid I had just assumed that part in the 1986 animated film where he turns up and starts blasting Decepticons was the same sorta actual warrior thing that so rarely appeared in the show or comics. I can't imagine he was simply trying to just wound them (even if some of them appeared later on just fine). He was certainly fighting Megatron to the bitter end.

I dunno. Maybe the "I'll kill you" line is a bit strong and strange but I'd rather that than the mopey Prime in some of the later Marvel stories. At least movie Prime gets the job done. No point him having all those cool guns and swords if not gonna use them properly to save us all from being wiped out by properly evil Decepticons.

that's just the way my weird low-intelligence mind perceives things anyway. Gimme more toys.

I figured that Optimus Prime was just handling the Dinobots on their level: the strongest leads and calls the shots. He had to prove he was the alpha to the pack, essentially. I thought it was a nice callback to the original Dinobots' personalities, particularly Grimlock's, of being brutish and strength obsessed. He constantly challenged Prime's leadership, supposing him to be weak and therefore not worthy of command. Of course, a few throw-away lines in the movie might have helped clarify this whole interaction between Prime and the Dinobots, but meh, dialogue isn't Michael Bay's strong point in movies. I think the "let them fight" line was meant to give us a hint as to what was going on, though. Long story short: I think Prime was just fronting with Grimlock, not giving in to bloodlust.

Re: New Images of Transformers Studio Series Jazz, Megatron, Brawl, Lockdown (1955483)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 23rd, 2018 @ 1:06pm CDT

Well by no mean are these the "Black Series" of movie figures, I suppose that would be the Movie Masterpieces, out of the few I've gotten I have to say I find them all super fun! They're all pretty decent movie generations figure, and all things conaidered i feel like theyre all different enough from their original counterparts it's worth the second buy. Blackout especially, not necessarily for scale, but because it's world's apart from the 07 version. The 07 blackout used engineering and aesthetic qualities from the cybertron era, while leader blackout feels closer to something that would be at home with the ROTF toyline.

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