New Images of Transformers Generations Selects Smokescreen

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

They raise the price slightly after the said before date.

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

This here Smokey don't look too bad. They definitely should have added some more paint apps to break up that dark paint on his legs BUT...I'll give him a good home.

They changed the Cybertronian on his doors and hood

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

They might need to know how many to "order" from Takara Tomy to make sure there are enough produced to meet demand by their release in late January 2020.

Sabrblade wrote:

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

How would they lose money by giving us more time to buy the same things?

Wolfman Jake wrote:They might need to know how many to "order" from Takara Tomy to make sure there are enough produced to meet demand by their release in late January 2020.

I suppose that makes some sense, but in that case, why not start the preorders earlier? It's still a fairly narrow window they're leaving.

Zeedust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Zeedust wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

How would they lose money by giving us more time to buy the same things?

It's our money and they need it NOW! MWAHAHAHA!

Welp she looks good, dosnt hold the foot peg really well tho, so might switch her with one of the arms if I decide to display her combined. But Lancer was well worth the wait.

Just pre-ordered Gulf and Turtler. Given how far away the shipping date is, I wonder how long it's gonna take to release all of them? Will it be a four-ish month wait from when those go up for pre-order as well?

Vic Zanzibar wrote:Just pre-ordered Gulf and Turtler. Given how far away the shipping date is, I wonder how long it's gonna take to release all of them? Will it be a four-ish month wait from when those go up for pre-order as well?

I am going to hazard a guess that it will be 3 months between each pair, and we will get 2 in January, 2 in April, and 2 in July

I think this makes a pretty good Target exclusive team;

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think this makes a pretty good Target exclusive team;

That, that right there is what we call money folks. Learn from your mod.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:You're right, I can't know for sure that the Seacons are limited, but it would be unusual for an exclusive not to be. We can't always look at post release availability as proof of normal release numbers. Look at Legends Grand Maximus, we know for a fact that there's less than 3,000 of those in the world and they're still readily available, sometimes at a discount.

Thats another assumption and far from a fact. The only thing we are sure of is that TTMall got less than 3000 orders, and thats it. We dont know if the ones sold outside japan through different distributors (Hasbro asia, usually), count into that, which is why he does seem so plentiful outside of japan. Hence why i was only referring to the japanese market in my example of combiners. Once again, when it comes to numbers, nothing can be assumed.

I'll admit, I completely forgot to factor in Hasbro Asia's release, but that wasn't really the point anyway. They only needed to sell 2,000 to turn a profit on their exclusive and in the end, to cover all of their orders, they sold less than 3,000. Now, that's a bit of an extreme case since it's a big and expensive release, but I bet that's the smallest number of Titans they ever produced by a fairly large margin. I probably shouldn't say they're always produced in smaller numbers, but it has to be more often than not, with the ones that are produced in high numbers being packed with caveats to explain why. Maybe the Seacons are produced in the same numbers world wide as the Terrorcons, but I just can't see it.

Emerje

...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

They actually did have them up, for a very short period, a day before HP and most of the other online retailers (search back in the thread). Not sure if there was a glitch, but they were only up for maybe an hour. Gulf seemingly sold out incredibly quickly, then the listings were removed. However at least one person here said their pre-order went through.

I imagine in time they will have them again, not sure what the hold up is.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

Yeah they went up, but then down. Might be a glitch, or maybe they sold out of their original stock. Not sure, but I am confident they will go back up soon

So.....
I know some find the subject taboo
But...
I am wondering if I should
A) buy the Selects versions ASAP
B) buy the beautiful TFC Toys version
C) wait and buy the inevitable 4th party oversized version.

Z3ROhour wrote:So.....
I know some find the subject taboo
But...
I am wondering if I should
A) buy the Selects versions ASAP
B) buy the beautiful TFC Toys version
C) wait and buy the inevitable 4th party oversized version.

Well, I've heard the TFC Toys Piranacon has trouble holding up his Targetmaster. So the Selects version's definitely going to struggle. Other than that, it's purely price, design, size decisions

Personally I'd give my money to the official product though in this case the official product is just as rich for my tastes as the other stuff Though this is the sort of ideas we need to encourage

Finally ordered Greenlight Thursday. And I shipped Ricochet and Swoop today as well, so they should all be here next week I'd guess.

Now to wait on Lancer to have my final combiner limb (besides King Poseidon). That is going to be a long 2 to 3 months

I apologize if this doesn't belong in this topic, but given Mastermind Creations recent reveals of their prototype for their take on Armada Prime, when do you all expect to see more on the initial prototype Takara showed off at one of the cons?

I'm hoping we see more soon, mostly because I've always loved Armada Prime's design and Takara's looks to be the best yet. Especially if they create a new Jetfire and Overload.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I apologize if this doesn't belong in this topic, but given Mastermind Creations recent reveals of their prototype for their take on Armada Prime, when do you all expect to see more on the initial prototype Takara showed off at one of the cons?

I'm hoping we see more soon, mostly because I've always loved Armada Prime's design and Takara's looks to be the best yet. Especially if they create a new Jetfire and Overload.

I'm guessing around the time the first wave of Seacons are released in late January 2020, which happens to line up with Wonder Festival 2020 Winter on Feb 9, 2020. I would like to be wrong and it shows up soon, maybe in a magazine or obscure convention since Star Convoy is due out in late September. But I suspect they're going to get through the Seacons before he's actually released.

Emerje

Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

o.supreme wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

I agree its odd. But this is the same company who revealed a fully painted MP Hound and then kept ignoring him for months on end.

o.supreme wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

At least it won't be like some of the toys from the 4th season of Animated, where we saw some of the thoughts and models, but they never got made because Animated got cancelled. Takara's currently using the Selects line almost as a replacement to the Legends line given the amount of projects they've been making without Hasbro input

I am ready to see Armada Prime in color and Super Megatron in more than a shadow. I wish we could at least see them

We finally have an official reveal of sorts for two new Transformers toys, which we didn't get a great look at yet. These are Transformers Generations Selects Nightbird And Powerdasher Zetar, made from Siege Chromia and Brunt. The official images are of the actual toys and not renders. They come from TakaraTomy Mall, which has pre-orders up for the Japanese community. It is not confirmed who will carry them in the US, though they are more likely to be online exclusives of some sort, as are all Generations Select toys.

On the TTMall site, they are priced at ¥ 4,104 (US$ 38.50), though this info benefits more any japanese fan reading this. The release date from Takara is September 7th, 2019. However, the pre-orders will only be available until the supplies last.

Let us know what you think of these toys!

Oh wow. I was just thinking last night that we haven't really seen anything from Nightbird since the pictures were revealed

Nightbird's alt mode looks very sleek, but the lack of original weapons knocks her down a few pegs. I'd still say the Legends version is the best.

I literally watched the Nightbird episode of G1 for the first time last night, now I'm way more interested in her lol. Though I do wish she had some swords, the gun is pretty lame.

Zetar looks pretty good. I'm a sucker for drill tanks though so I may be biased.

Nightbird's robot mode looks great, and the vehicle mode looks good too...except that the "female torso on the roof" syndrome the Moonracer/Chromia engineering has is taken to a whole new level here. Like, you have this really slick black wedge car with Nightbird's very womanly chest on the back. That's a shame. Also she needs some ninja weapons. I still kinda want her though.

I was gonna go for Brunt, but Zetar is so awesomely goofy that I may have to shoot for him (plus I'm a sucker for drill tanks lol).

I really like this Nightbird, much more than the Legends version, but the absolute fortress on her back is still a turnoff for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hasbro just officially revealed these two at Canada FanExpo, so hopefully we'll see some listings or preorders go up soon.


I'm intending to get both of them, although I do find it interesting that Zetar looks more black than dark blue now. Also, did they remold the inner structure of his chest? I'm pretty sure Brunt can't do that with his head (I don't have mine on-hand to look).

Nemesis Primal wrote:Hasbro just officially revealed these two at Canada FanExpo, so hopefully we'll see some listings or preorders go up soon.

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Zetar.jpg

I'm intending to get both of them, although I do find it interesting that Zetar looks more black than dark blue now. Also, did they remold the inner structure of his chest? I'm pretty sure Brunt can't do that with his head (I don't have mine on-hand to look).

It looks like his drill just disconnects from the top of his and plugs onto the front of the vehicle mode

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Hasbro just officially revealed these two at Canada FanExpo, so hopefully we'll see some listings or preorders go up soon.

nightbird.jpg

Zetar.jpg

I'm intending to get both of them, although I do find it interesting that Zetar looks more black than dark blue now. Also, did they remold the inner structure of his chest? I'm pretty sure Brunt can't do that with his head (I don't have mine on-hand to look).

It looks like his drill just disconnects from the top of his and plugs onto the front of the vehicle mode

...ohhh, yeah, I see it now. I had thought that the head had somehow swapped places with the weapon mode handle, but now I see the face better on the other pictures. My bad.

Both look pretty good, though Nightbird should have a sword

Zetar could easily be repainted as screwhead/ Rod Drill. And I kind of think he looks cooler then Brunt

Zetar looks awesome-- I was planning on making a custom one anyway (different base figure) and now I don't have to.

Nightbird....is... fine.

I'm conflicted about Nightbird. On the one hand, I like the color scheme and the idea of adding more female Decepticons to my shelf. Well, more Decepticons in general But on the other hand, when I got Chromia the joints felt... Loose isn't the right word because they holds their poses... Too smooth for comfort? Combined with the fact that Moonracer and Novastar are also in the same feeling of looseness, I'm not sure if Nightbird is really worth it when there are several others that could be used to bolster ranks

These two just popped up for pre-order on Pulse!

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers?page=1&rb_stock_status=Pre-Order

Cobotron wrote:These two just popped up for pre-order on Pulse!

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers?page=1&rb_stock_status=Pre-Order

I preordered both! Zetar is mandatory, of course. I already have what is probably the superior release of Nightbird, the Takara Transformers Legends repaint of Arcee with new head and appropriate ninja weapons (swords, sai, etc.), from a few years back, but, I can't help but like this rendition too. I think part of me just wants to "Catch 'Em All" with the Siege line. There isn't anything I haven't passed up so far.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cobotron wrote:These two just popped up for pre-order on Pulse!

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers?page=1&rb_stock_status=Pre-Order

I preordered both! Zetar is mandatory, of course. I already have what is probably the superior release of Nightbird, the Takara Transformers Legends repaint of Arcee with new head and appropriate ninja weapons (swords, sai, etc.), from a few years back, but, I can't help but like this rendition too. I think part of me just wants to "Catch 'Em All" with the Siege line. There isn't anything I haven't passed up so far.

I just preordered both as well, and it looks like Hasbro is suggesting to use the modular aspect of the Chromia molds' weapons to make a small melee weapon from the grenades and the gun "scope", which they also call a baton now. They show an example in the stock photography.

What interests me is that these two are GS07 and GS08, and Zetar's description confirms that Cromar will be the last Powerdasher released and therefore have a higher number, probably GS09, so GS04 is still missing. It could be Hot Shot I guess, but if that's the case and that's the last figure, it bothers me that the numbers didn't at least go to 10.

ok so Pulse says Zetar's expected to ship around September 9, but BBTS is not until February 2020 ??? I've already pre-ordered the Seacons. Too bad there isn't anything else besides Zetar I want to qualify for free shipping. I guess Ill be getting this one way late again.

You now got a good look at Transformers Generations Selects Nightbird and Powerdasher Zetar and here are the questions we got: When can we buy them and where?

Well, we got you covered. The toys can be ordered RIGHT NOW on the internet at whichever place you usually get your collectables like Entertainment Earth, BBTS, TFSource and Pulse. Canadians can get them at EB Games. They are officially due for September 1 and the MSRP is $19.99, though some places may have a mark up.

Below are more images and the official product descriptions.

TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS SELECTS DELUXE WFC-GS07 NIGHTBIRD

(Ages 8 years and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: 09/01/2019)

The Generations Selects WFC-GS07 NIGHTBIRD, as seen in the Enter the Nightbird episode of the G1 series, features an alt mode never before seen in the show and is inspired by how NIGHTBIRD would have appeared on Cybertron. NIGHTBIRD stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts to alt mode in 15 steps. The NIGHTBIRD figure also comes with four ninja weapon accessories – one Venomizer Blaster, one Nightshock Baton and two Flash Grenades - that combine and attach to each other.

Generations Selects is a fan-dedicated line of figures featuring special edition characters that can’t be found in the main line. Available at HasbroPulse.com and other major retailers on 09/01/2019.


TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS SELECTS DELUXE WFC-GS08 POWERDASHER ZETAR

(Ages 8 years and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: 09/01/2019)

The Generations Selects WFC-GS08 POWERDASHER ZETAR features a design inspired by the classic 1983 POWERDASHER DIACLONE, DRILL DASHER, with tampo art reminiscent of the original stickers. POWERDASHER ZETAR stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts to drill mode in 23 steps. The POWERDASHER ZETAR figure also breaks apart into nine weapon accessories that can be equipped to other SIEGE: WAR FOR CYBERTRON figures (Sold separately. Subject to availability).

Generations Selects is a fan-dedicated line of figures featuring special edition characters that can’t be found in the main line. Available on HasbroPulse.com and other major retailers on 09/01/2019.

Zetar is truly the hero we deserved, he takes the weaponizer gimmick to it's natural conclusion by turning his head into a weaponizer port, so much awkward goofiness is going to ensue

Both of these look pretty good. I pre-ordered both.

Zetar is perfect. He is necessary thanks to Aragon in the siege 3-pack that I want, but he is a great looking standalone too. Well done there.

Nightbird is weaker than her Legends toy a few years ago, but she will do. I never got that one, and i don't actually have Chromia, so at least I will get that mold... even if it will be my 5th of that skeleton basically. she really needed some better/different weapons

This new Nightbird makes me want to go on eBay and pay the aftermarket prices for the Legends figure.

Hasbro? No offense but you've skipped a number... WFC-GS04.

Sabrblade wrote:This new Nightbird makes me want to go on eBay and pay the aftermarket prices for the Legends figure.

Same. I already have the Chromia figure, and I can't really do much with her because every time I move the legs her crotch plate falls off and breaks and needs another layer of glue. Other than the paint and head, this Nightbird figure is exactly the same, and I don't want to have to deal with her losing her crotch plate too. I'm so disappointed. Thankfully I have Generations Chromia to have on my shelf while Siege Chromia can get tossed into storage.