New Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG30 Weirdwolf
Monday, July 4th, 2016 8:38AM CDT
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We also included some photos of Hasbro's Wolfwire (yes, they are named differently) taken at Botcon for you to compare with. You will see that there are very few differences in the robot mode aside from the Titan Masters. Most differences are in wold mode with different colours found on the back, the head and the tail. Enjoy and let us know which version you plan on getting!
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Posted by Kurona on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:03am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 4th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
Kurona wrote:I can't quite see from the botcon images; but do Hasbro and Takara's weirdwolves share the same face?
They're different.
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 11:05am CDT
Kurona wrote:I can't quite see from the botcon images; but do Hasbro and Takara's weirdwolves share the same face?
Its differet. Hasbro has a thinner visor while takara has a connected shade like visor. But the bigger difference is the shape. Hasbro's is rounded at the top while Takara's is a block.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 4th, 2016 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 11:20am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 4th, 2016 @ 11:41am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.
That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.
They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.
I like the pic in your sig btw.
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 11:52am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.
That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.
They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.
I like the pic in your sig btw.
I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless
And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2016 @ 12:54pm CDT
What's interesting about the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters, and which can be seen in this comparison image, is that, unlike the Autobot Headmasters, the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters used essentially the same base animation models for their depictions in both The Rebirth and The Headmasters, with any differences in their designs between the two cartoons being only rudimentary ones inherent of each being animated by a different studio (AKOM vs Toei).
So for Takara Skull, Weirdwolf, and the eventual Wipe, the heads those three have are not only Headmasters cartoon-accurate but Rebirth cartoon-accurate as well.
Posted by Microraptor on July 4th, 2016 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 4th, 2016 @ 1:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What's interesting about the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters, and which can be seen in this comparison image, is that, unlike the Autobot Headmasters, the three normal 1987 Decepticon Headmasters used essentially the same base animation models for their depictions in both The Rebirth and The Headmasters, with any differences in their designs between the two cartoons being only rudimentary ones inherent of each being animated by a different studio (AKOM vs Toei).
So for Takara Skull, Weirdwolf, and the eventual Wipe, the heads those three have are not only Headmasters cartoon-accurate but Rebirth cartoon-accurate as well.
The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.) If true, they should be mostly Rebirth/Headmasters accurate, too. (With some differences in the decos.)
Posted by Insurgent on July 4th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 4th, 2016 @ 2:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.
That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.
They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.
I like the pic in your sig btw.
I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless
And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.
I agree with you. I always enjoy the toy and comics deco personally. I'll gladly take Jazz with door wings, Prowl with shoulder cannons and even megatron with a grey helmet any day over cartoon accuracy. Still need time with Optimis having yellow eyes though.
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 3:05pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.
That's a lot of love for a 3rd tier character.
They both look good to me, I picked the one closer to the cartoon and easier for me to get.
I like the pic in your sig btw.
I am a toy guy, the fiction is really secondary for me (though I will always read or watch something if its good). So these guys are all toys and all on equal footing in terms of tier to me. That movie Mindwipe wasnt in the films but is one of my favourites regardless
And thanks, my sig now features my very first TF toy.
I agree with you. I always enjoy the toy and comics deco personally. I'll gladly take Jazz with door wings, Prowl with shoulder cannons and even megatron with a grey helmet any day over cartoon accuracy. Still need time with Optimis having yellow eyes though.
Thats cool, but what I meant was not the same thing. I didnt mean I preferred a toy to reference a toy's deco, I jut meant that I dont care what it references as long as its a cool toy. For istance Weirdwolf's Hasbro head doesnt look like his G1 toy, it looks different from anything else. And I dont judge it based on its reference, I judge it based on whether or not I think it looks good. And I think it looks awesome
PS: But yeah, I do preffer Megatron to have a grey head and I do preffer a darker purple for shockwave, but thats just because I think it looks better, didnt matter where that initially came from.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 4th, 2016 @ 3:26pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that Hasbro head. Its a gorgeous update and goes well with the less blocky update of the toy itself.
Take notes, Hasbro! This is how you update a design into something that looks "cool." Skullcruncher's head was a complete failure of your mission statement.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:00am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 5th, 2016 @ 5:01am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 5th, 2016 @ 5:11am CDT
But sigh, more drones. Mindwipe even has the same one as Skullcruncher. Wish they ditched those, especially now that the Yen is strong.
Posted by MemphisR56 on July 5th, 2016 @ 7:11am CDT
That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.
All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:21am CDT
MemphisR56 wrote:definitely looks like the same headsculpt on Domey there. Sorry to burst a few bubbles. It's too difficult to tell with all the artefacts in there whether they changed the paint on the visor though.
That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.
All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight
It's not the same it's different. The IDW/hasbro version has more smooth curves. This one has a more straight edge blocky look.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:41am CDT
Think they'll show Brainstorm in the next batch?
Posted by fenrir72 on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:55am CDT
Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:09am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Hominahominahomina!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?
I think that's a given that Brainstorm will have a mouth. It's hard to believe they'd alter everyone except him.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:33am CDT
william-james88 wrote:legends groove.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:legends groove.
william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released
That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:43am CDT
william-james88 wrote:IF they release Brainstorm. That is still far from a guarantee. There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released lately like the Plainum DInobots with new G1 heads, the reissue of Perceptor with new accessories, legends Groove and I dont think they will release Hasbro's version of CW Strafe. I am holding no hope until I see it.
I think they will. It's true they've yet to release certain retools and remolds but this is is headmasters. That was their series and they're going out of their way to make new heads for these guys. It's just a matter of time. My first thought was "God they'll mall make it an online or mall exclusive like deadlock or some of the combiners"
It's surprising it took them 2 1/3 years to do release skids and it wasn't even a toy deco it was straight MTMTE. Still waiting and hoping for Jhiaxus. Takara is picky when it comes to doing characters.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:43am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:legends groove.william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released
That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:53am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:03am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.
That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
Hell, even if they don't release Brainstorm... I can see them making a new mold for Brainstorm. I know it sounds crazy, but so far all the new molds they've made - Blast Off, Groove - have been for the sake of completing a set. So if they somehow don't get their hands on that Brainstorm, they'll sure as hell make their own because there's no way they're making a line of the Headmasters and missing Brainstorm. It's like ordering a Pizza, Garlic Bread and a bottle of Coke but they ran out of Garlic Bread and don't charge you for it. You're happy with what you got, yeah, but there's something very significant missing.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.
I still think they can release him as a standard release. Just because the legends line hasn't released the same character twice (outside exclusives) doesn't mean they can't. Only time will tell though
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:33am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.
Personally I don't demand and need cartoon accuracy, just having the character is good enough for me. Now when it came to the femcons, I bought those and Ultra Magnus and skids because they were gorgeous and I had a little extra cash to toss at an import.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:36am CDT
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.
We are of the same mind
Posted by SeventhSage on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by leokearon on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:11am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:15am CDT
leokearon wrote:I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters
Yeah thats a huge bummer for me too. I mean they are meant to interact so you cant actually have a complete mini dinosaur without your robot losing his head.
Posted by xMXUx on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:19am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:28am CDT
And you know what would be a cool accessory for him instead of another drone? A Rebirth-accurate head sculpt! Give us both options, like with MP-33 Inferno.
Posted by durroth on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
Highbrow doesn't look that different from his Hasbro counterpart but I'll reserve judgement for now.
Mindwipe is never gonna look good regardless of the deco. Sorry, but I'm going FP for him. (Or getting the old ROTF figure, that thing is awesome).
Posted by EvilOmar on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:59pm CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6GaJKjupbk
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:13pm CDT
*EDIT* For those curious, the vehicles included come from these Titan Master Class (not Legends Class) releases: Nightbeat, Loudmouth and Crashbash (again), completing that list as well.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:17pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CDT
Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
They probably won't make a sentinel due to him and astrotrain sharing molds but also the fact he has no history in Japan. Like I said before Japan is super picky about what they'll make and release. It's baffling they did grand galvatron and Lynx Master.
I don't even think they'll do Alpha Trion. I see them using that mold for Lio Convoy before they use it for Alpha Trion. Not because he doesn't have history hit because the body doesn't looked like alpha Trion. They wouldn't do minimus Ambus, they painted him as Alpha and made up some weird story about him joyriding inside Magnus.
Japan is weird...