New Images Of FansProject's Shadow Commander
Saturday, November 8th, 2008 2:23PM CST
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FansProject has been doing some remolding to the head to set it apart from it's City Commander counterpart.
You can view this image, as well as make your pre-order, here~
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Posted by rpetras on November 8th, 2008 @ 2:26pm CST
Posted by emeraldbeacon on November 8th, 2008 @ 2:51pm CST
So who thinks it'll be long before we see a Powermaster Prime version?
Posted by Archanubis on November 8th, 2008 @ 2:56pm CST
Posted by Sledge on November 8th, 2008 @ 2:58pm CST
Posted by DevastaTTor on November 8th, 2008 @ 2:58pm CST
Posted by Blurrz on November 8th, 2008 @ 3:05pm CST
Way to narrow the fanbase, FansProjects.....
Posted by Sabrblade on November 8th, 2008 @ 3:11pm CST
emeraldbeacon wrote:Oh HELL yes.
So who thinks it'll be long before we see a Powermaster Prime version?
They're already making one for Optimus, but it'll be in the Diaclone Powered Convoy colors.
Posted by DevastaTTor on November 8th, 2008 @ 3:24pm CST
Blurrz wrote:Something spectacular I won't be getting, simply cause SDCC was an exclusive, and then this is pretty expensive in it's own right.
Way to narrow the fanbase, FansProjects.....
Not sure I agree. Last time I checked, NP was still available on HTS.com. There are probably going to wind up being 100 NPs out there to every SC set. The fact that they're producing half as many tells me they're taking that into account.
Posted by Solrac333 on November 8th, 2008 @ 3:43pm CST
Posted by Narc on November 8th, 2008 @ 3:46pm CST
Posted by HighPrime on November 8th, 2008 @ 5:35pm CST
Only improvement I'd still like to see is a swivel point for the trailer so the tractor can move independently of the trailer.
Posted by ShadowGinrai on November 8th, 2008 @ 5:44pm CST
Posted by Shadowstream on November 8th, 2008 @ 5:46pm CST
Now I could go on and on about the whole magnus/nemesis armor thing, but these are just my own opinions. Plus the decapitation of my own Magnus armor has left me with a low opinion of fan made add-ons.
And if they really wanna do a Powered Convoy armor then once again I'll give a thumbs down, UNLESS they can find a way to have a blue and black Optimus to go with it.
Posted by emeraldbeacon on November 8th, 2008 @ 8:01pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:emeraldbeacon wrote:Oh HELL yes.
So who thinks it'll be long before we see a Powermaster Prime version?
They're already making one for Optimus, but it'll be in the Diaclone Powered Convoy colors.
I didn't think there was any confirmation of this. They had a mockup of both Powered Convoy and Shadow Commander at a toy show, but at that time, they stated that they were one-offs, and that they would not be mass produced. Then they created Shadow Commander...
While it's true that Powered Convoy was portrayed in their instruction booklet for City Commander, I hadn't heard any confirmation, one way or another, than it was actually going to be produced.
Posted by BlackMagnus on November 8th, 2008 @ 8:17pm CST
emeraldbeacon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:emeraldbeacon wrote:Oh HELL yes.
So who thinks it'll be long before we see a Powermaster Prime version?
They're already making one for Optimus, but it'll be in the Diaclone Powered Convoy colors.
I didn't think there was any confirmation of this. They had a mockup of both Powered Convoy and Shadow Commander at a toy show, but at that time, they stated that they were one-offs, and that they would not be mass produced. Then they created Shadow Commander...
While it's true that Powered Convoy was portrayed in their instruction booklet for City Commander, I hadn't heard any confirmation, one way or another, than it was actually going to be produced.
Agreed.
A blue Prime would be required for a true PC.
Posted by Delicon on November 8th, 2008 @ 8:20pm CST
Posted by Stormrider on November 8th, 2008 @ 10:03pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on November 9th, 2008 @ 7:47am CST
Who says the head joint is week? Mine is perfectly fine it wasn't designed to go up and down just move sideways.
Posted by barricade2218 on November 9th, 2008 @ 7:52am CST
Posted by Asphalt22 on November 9th, 2008 @ 8:02am CST
Posted by Venksta on November 9th, 2008 @ 10:06pm CST
I confirmed earlier today that Shadow Commander will come with two faces. The original face with a mouth, and this new face with the faceplate. And they'll be easy to switch around.
Posted by El Duque on November 9th, 2008 @ 10:24pm CST
Venksta wrote:New Info!
I confirmed earlier today that Shadow Commander will come with two faces. The original face with a mouth, and this new face with the faceplate. And they'll be easy to switch around.
That sounds cool except for one thing, at least a few people have reported a weak neck on CC. Hope they improved the strength of that area of the mold since surely it will have more stress being put on it with people moving the head around to get the alternate face in position.
Posted by Venksta on November 9th, 2008 @ 10:49pm CST
El Duque wrote:Venksta wrote:New Info!
I confirmed earlier today that Shadow Commander will come with two faces. The original face with a mouth, and this new face with the faceplate. And they'll be easy to switch around.
That sounds cool except for one thing, at least a few people have reported a weak neck on CC. Hope they improved the strength of that area of the mold since surely it will have more stress being put on it with people moving the head around to get the alternate face in position.
They seem to be aware of the issues people have had with City Commander. That is one of the reasons the mold is being fine tuned for the Shadow Commander release.
Posted by El Duque on November 9th, 2008 @ 10:57pm CST
Venksta wrote:El Duque wrote:Venksta wrote:New Info!
I confirmed earlier today that Shadow Commander will come with two faces. The original face with a mouth, and this new face with the faceplate. And they'll be easy to switch around.
That sounds cool except for one thing, at least a few people have reported a weak neck on CC. Hope they improved the strength of that area of the mold since surely it will have more stress being put on it with people moving the head around to get the alternate face in position.
They seem to be aware of the issues people have had with City Commander. That is one of the reasons the mold is being fine tuned for the Shadow Commander release.
That's good to hear. As awesome as CC is I must admit I'm afraid to try to pose his head.
Posted by UltraPrimal on November 9th, 2008 @ 11:51pm CST
Posted by WolfDawg on November 10th, 2008 @ 12:18am CST
Posted by Stormrider on November 10th, 2008 @ 4:04pm CST
Venksta wrote:El Duque wrote:Venksta wrote:New Info!
I confirmed earlier today that Shadow Commander will come with two faces. The original face with a mouth, and this new face with the faceplate. And they'll be easy to switch around.
That sounds cool except for one thing, at least a few people have reported a weak neck on CC. Hope they improved the strength of that area of the mold since surely it will have more stress being put on it with people moving the head around to get the alternate face in position.
They seem to be aware of the issues people have had with City Commander. That is one of the reasons the mold is being fine tuned for the Shadow Commander release.
Front paged and credited.
Posted by Firebird on November 10th, 2008 @ 5:57pm CST
UltraPrimal wrote:That's great. I hope after Shadow Commander, Powered Commander, and Shattered Commender, they go back and do a second run of City Commander with all the improvements and extras that previous versions had.
Shattered Commander.
Thats awesome, And I would totally buy it.
Posted by zatara1701 on November 10th, 2008 @ 7:08pm CST
I have a gripe though...the day I got my City Commander his chest plate broke. Apparently others have had issues with the head. My gripe is this...
I spent $80+ on City Commander, he broke the day I got it and transformed him the first time, and so I emailed Fansprojects going on 3 weeks ago and haven't heard a peep. I realize they are a small outfit, but you would think that an email could've been answered in 3 weeks?!? Not to mention it would be nice if us consumers were compensated in some way or fashion for these issues. I don't expect anything for free, but come on, there is obviously some serious QC issues. Despite investing $80+ we just have to "suck it up," or "deal with it?" What do ya'll think???
Posted by Seibertron on November 10th, 2008 @ 7:34pm CST
zatara1701 wrote:I have already preordered this and I am excited about Fansprojects improving upon feedback on QC issues.
I have a gripe though...the day I got my City Commander his chest plate broke. Apparently others have had issues with the head. My gripe is this...
I spent $80+ on City Commander, he broke the day I got it and transformed him the first time, and so I emailed Fansprojects going on 3 weeks ago and haven't heard a peep. I realize they are a small outfit, but you would think that an email could've been answered in 3 weeks?!? Not to mention it would be nice if us consumers were compensated in some way or fashion for these issues. I don't expect anything for free, but come on, there is obviously some serious QC issues. Despite investing $80+ we just have to "suck it up," or "deal with it?" What do ya'll think???
Due to the nature of international orders and the nature of a fan company making unofficial figures, fans are probably on their own with this type of product. I wish that wasn't the case ... just being blunt. That's the problem with buying an unofficial product which is why Hasbro doesn't want items like this being made.
Posted by Delicon on November 10th, 2008 @ 7:45pm CST
Seibertron wrote:zatara1701 wrote:I have already preordered this and I am excited about Fansprojects improving upon feedback on QC issues.
I have a gripe though...the day I got my City Commander his chest plate broke. Apparently others have had issues with the head. My gripe is this...
I spent $80+ on City Commander, he broke the day I got it and transformed him the first time, and so I emailed Fansprojects going on 3 weeks ago and haven't heard a peep. I realize they are a small outfit, but you would think that an email could've been answered in 3 weeks?!? Not to mention it would be nice if us consumers were compensated in some way or fashion for these issues. I don't expect anything for free, but come on, there is obviously some serious QC issues. Despite investing $80+ we just have to "suck it up," or "deal with it?" What do ya'll think???
Due to the nature of international orders and the nature of a fan company making unofficial figures, fans are probably on their own with this type of product. I wish that wasn't the case ... just being blunt. That's the problem with buying an unofficial product which is why Hasbro doesn't want items like this being made.
Seibs is right, that's the burden we bear with unofficial figures. Still, if they keep coming up with concepts like this and the WSt Dinobots we'll keep on buying them.
Habsro will have a hard time ever weeding them out at this rate.
Posted by zatara1701 on November 10th, 2008 @ 9:56pm CST
Delicon wrote:Seibertron wrote:zatara1701 wrote:I have already preordered this and I am excited about Fansprojects improving upon feedback on QC issues.
I have a gripe though...the day I got my City Commander his chest plate broke. Apparently others have had issues with the head. My gripe is this...
I spent $80+ on City Commander, he broke the day I got it and transformed him the first time, and so I emailed Fansprojects going on 3 weeks ago and haven't heard a peep. I realize they are a small outfit, but you would think that an email could've been answered in 3 weeks?!? Not to mention it would be nice if us consumers were compensated in some way or fashion for these issues. I don't expect anything for free, but come on, there is obviously some serious QC issues. Despite investing $80+ we just have to "suck it up," or "deal with it?" What do ya'll think???
Due to the nature of international orders and the nature of a fan company making unofficial figures, fans are probably on their own with this type of product. I wish that wasn't the case ... just being blunt. That's the problem with buying an unofficial product which is why Hasbro doesn't want items like this being made.
Seibs is right, that's the burden we bear with unofficial figures. Still, if they keep coming up with concepts like this and the WSt Dinobots we'll keep on buying them.
Habsro will have a hard time ever weeding them out at this rate.
To be honest, I am not worried about Hasbro... I don't even look at it that way. Official or unofficial... I simply look at it as they made a product and should be responsible for it.
All in all, I think I am more upset by their lack of follow up with the email that I sent about City Commander. I didn't expect a follow-up that day, heck not even that week, but I would've liked to have gotten something back the same month that I sent it. As a person who works in a customer service capacity, I'd just like to see that they care about those of us shelling out the money to buy their product.
I'm keeping my preorder for Shadow Commander, but their lack of follow-up and/or concern will probably keep me from buying anything they produce in the future...no matter how cool it is.
Posted by Venksta on November 10th, 2008 @ 10:11pm CST
zatara1701 wrote:
To be honest, I am not worried about Hasbro... I don't even look at it that way. Official or unofficial... I simply look at it as they made a product and should be responsible for it.
All in all, I think I am more upset by their lack of follow up with the email that I sent about City Commander. I didn't expect a follow-up that day, heck not even that week, but I would've liked to have gotten something back the same month that I sent it. As a person who works in a customer service capacity, I'd just like to see that they care about those of us shelling out the money to buy their product.
I'm keeping my preorder for Shadow Commander, but their lack of follow-up and/or concern will probably keep me from buying anything they produce in the future...no matter how cool it is.
Have you contacted the retailer from where you purchased your City Commander from? BBTS and TFSource customers, who have had QC problems with their City Commanders have gotten replacement parts from them. Also, FansProject has a statement about not being able to replace broken parts directly, on the bottom side of the City Commander box. So if anyone can help, it would be the store you bought it from, depending who they are.
Posted by robofreak on November 10th, 2008 @ 10:40pm CST
I haven't been able to use my City Commander set yet as I still don't have a Ultra Magnus. I did take the trailer apart though and inspected all the pieces. Everything on mine seems fine and I won't know about any more possible problems until I get my UM and attach the armour.
I still want them to make Pharaohtron...
Posted by Oilspill on November 10th, 2008 @ 11:08pm CST
But the hands were glued on the wrong way on mine, TFSource have shipped out replacement hands in less than a week, so it may be worth contacting the guys you bought him from rather than Fans Project directly.
I will definitely support Fans Project in the future. My Cliffjumper and Ultra Magnus are now among my favourite figures in my collection.
Posted by HighPrime on November 11th, 2008 @ 8:42am CST
Delicon wrote:Seibertron wrote:zatara1701 wrote:I have already preordered this and I am excited about Fansprojects improving upon feedback on QC issues.
I have a gripe though...the day I got my City Commander his chest plate broke. Apparently others have had issues with the head. My gripe is this...
I spent $80+ on City Commander, he broke the day I got it and transformed him the first time, and so I emailed Fansprojects going on 3 weeks ago and haven't heard a peep. I realize they are a small outfit, but you would think that an email could've been answered in 3 weeks?!? Not to mention it would be nice if us consumers were compensated in some way or fashion for these issues. I don't expect anything for free, but come on, there is obviously some serious QC issues. Despite investing $80+ we just have to "suck it up," or "deal with it?" What do ya'll think???
Due to the nature of international orders and the nature of a fan company making unofficial figures, fans are probably on their own with this type of product. I wish that wasn't the case ... just being blunt. That's the problem with buying an unofficial product which is why Hasbro doesn't want items like this being made.
Seibs is right, that's the burden we bear with unofficial figures. Still, if they keep coming up with concepts like this and the WST Dinobots we'll keep on buying them.
Hasbro will have a hard time ever weeding them out at this rate.
I disagree with "seibs" statement (but only in the context of City Commander). While I can completely agree KOs are a bane to Hasbro, and they would certainly not want their intellectual property violated (which I could not be more sympathetic), I cannot see how the City Commander would fall into the realm of KO or unofficial figure. Not one piece of this contains properties of Hasbro. I further don't see how Hasbro discourages this sort of creation when Hasbro (and/or FC) even go so far as to have a Fan Customs event making use of Hasbro's properties (Of course they aren't for sale, though) at Botcon. Still, this isn't like the Justitoys releases. This figure doesn't make use of Hasbro parts or insignias, and shouldn't be considered (IMO) an "unofficial figure." It's like a 3rd party making an accessory for your iPod, for example.
Addressing the quality, I can see how Hasbro would not want to be involved in cross-licensing, nor attaching their name to the product. With that said, my City Commander has exhibited none of the problems others are experiencing. I Feel bad for those people, though. I guess I may have gotten lucky, but that's Karma because my Henkei TC and SW are travesties of poor QC.. and those are official releases.. Takara should be ashamed of themselves for attaching their name to them.
Finally, if you check the box of City Commander there's "fine print" disclaiming issues with the figure.. a bit dastardly, but not entirely unexpected
Posted by Stormrider on November 11th, 2008 @ 4:07pm CST
For the people that have been experiencing trouble - have you contacted your online retailer? They would be the ones to handle the issues since they are ones that sold the products to you. This is where using a reliable retailer is best; it's worth the extra fee.
Posted by Venksta on November 11th, 2008 @ 7:47pm CST
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