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Posted by Deadput on January 21st, 2016 @ 9:38pm CST
I think I'll stick with Hasbro.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 21st, 2016 @ 9:43pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:And those two darker greens continue to be the wrong shades.
Posted by Cobotron on January 21st, 2016 @ 9:46pm CST
Is there an echo in here?Sabrblade wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And those two darker greens continue to be the wrong shades.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 21st, 2016 @ 10:12pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Is there an echo in here?Sabrblade wrote:And those two darker greens continue to be the wrong shades.Sabrblade wrote:And those two darker greens continue to be the wrong shades.
Is there an echo in here?
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 21st, 2016 @ 10:50pm CST
Posted by Mr Skram on January 21st, 2016 @ 11:20pm CST
And that's all I have to say about that.
Posted by RevTibe on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:13am CST
Shades of green feel hard to pin down, considering the variability of animation, broadcast etc.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 22nd, 2016 @ 3:04am CST
RevTibe wrote:I personally think the yellow chest of the original complimented the design much more nicely
I like the yellow chest but I loathed the yellow plastic colour Hasbro used, so I ended up painting over all the yellow plastic on my Springer with a richer ever so slightly orangey yellow that I had also used to add extra details on my AoE Deluxe Bumblebee (like the yellow strips on the thighs the Takara version has and my Hasbro one was missing) and I think it looks much better.
Posted by bvzxa on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:23pm CST
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say not to the repaint drug.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:28pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Takara...I like the effort but no...no, no, no.
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say no to the repaint drug.
Meh, I'd rather Cloud Rodimus, than some new, uninspired generic hot rod. Now if we're talking the futuristic semi version, I could definitely do with a 2016 version of the semi truck
Posted by megatronus on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:30pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:33pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Takara...I like the effort but no...no, no, no.
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say not to the repaint drug.
I dont think the Rodimus repaint was Takara's idea. Wasnt it a series of E-Hobby exclusives, thus more like a TF-club exclusive type of repaint?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 12:54pm CST
william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Takara...I like the effort but no...no, no, no.
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say not to the repaint drug.
I dont think the Rodimus repaint was Takara's idea. Wasnt it a series of E-Hobby exclusives, thus more like a TF-club exclusive type of repaint?
The Cloud line? I dunno, that may explain the price tag for all of them
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 22nd, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Takara...I like the effort but no...no, no, no.
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say not to the repaint drug.
I dont think the Rodimus repaint was Takara's idea. Wasnt it a series of E-Hobby exclusives, thus more like a TF-club exclusive type of repaint?
The Cloud line? I dunno, that may explain the price tag for all of them
Half of them were eHobby exclusives the other half were TTMall exclusives. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Cloud
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 5:16pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:Takara...I like the effort but no...no, no, no.
You repainted this same mold into a Rodimus. This is a fantastic mold but learn from your Hasbro counterparts and make a new Rodimus. Say not to the repaint drug.
I dont think the Rodimus repaint was Takara's idea. Wasnt it a series of E-Hobby exclusives, thus more like a TF-club exclusive type of repaint?
The Cloud line? I dunno, that may explain the price tag for all of them
Half of them were eHobby exclusives the other half were TTMall exclusives. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Cloud
Ouch, yeah, that really explains things; but now that you mention it, I do remember reading that about this line
Posted by william-james88 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 7:25pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Ouch, yeah, that really explains things; but now that you mention it, I do remember reading that about this line
Yeah these werent standard takara issues, they are more like the Japan equivalent of Club figures or con exclusives in the US.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 7:31pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Ouch, yeah, that really explains things; but now that you mention it, I do remember reading that about this line
Yeah these werent standard takara issues, they are more like the Japan equivalent of Club figures or con exclusives in the US.
Yeah, figured, it's a shame, as I wouldn't've minded getting Rodimus, Hellwarp, Shockwhirl
Posted by william-james88 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 7:33pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, figured, it's a shame, as I wouldn't've minded getting Rodimus, Hellwarp, Shockwhirl
That line surprised me greatly. As Megatronus said when he found that the Rodimus redeco was the best use of the mold, I found the Shockwave rdeco of Whirl to be the best version of that mold. And I dont know why, its the same mold, no differences. I guess its just the attention to detail that went into these redecos was more than usual and the paint scheme felt so cohesive.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 22nd, 2016 @ 7:59pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, figured, it's a shame, as I wouldn't've minded getting Rodimus, Hellwarp, Shockwhirl
That line surprised me greatly. As Megatronus said when he found that the Rodimus redeco was the best use of the mold, I found the Shockwave rdeco of Whirl to be the best version of that mold. And I dont know why, its the same mold, no differences. I guess its just the attention to detail that went into these redecos was more than usual and the paint scheme felt so cohesive.
Yes, clearly quite a large amount of time and effort was invested in that line, they all felt so 'fresh' and unhindered by the need to be slavishly 'G1', it was a real breath of fresh air
Posted by Sabrblade on January 22nd, 2016 @ 8:44pm CST
Even though Cloud Optimus had the most slavishly cartoon-accurate deco the Classics Optimus mold ever had.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, figured, it's a shame, as I wouldn't've minded getting Rodimus, Hellwarp, Shockwhirl
That line surprised me greatly. As Megatronus said when he found that the Rodimus redeco was the best use of the mold, I found the Shockwave rdeco of Whirl to be the best version of that mold. And I dont know why, its the same mold, no differences. I guess its just the attention to detail that went into these redecos was more than usual and the paint scheme felt so cohesive.
Yes, clearly quite a large amount of time and effort was invested in that line, they all felt so 'fresh' and unhindered by the need to be slavishly 'G1', it was a real breath of fresh air
Posted by Evil Eye on January 23rd, 2016 @ 8:27am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Even though Cloud Optimus had the most slavishly cartoon-accurate deco the Classics Optimus mold ever had.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Yeah, figured, it's a shame, as I wouldn't've minded getting Rodimus, Hellwarp, Shockwhirl
That line surprised me greatly. As Megatronus said when he found that the Rodimus redeco was the best use of the mold, I found the Shockwave rdeco of Whirl to be the best version of that mold. And I dont know why, its the same mold, no differences. I guess its just the attention to detail that went into these redecos was more than usual and the paint scheme felt so cohesive.
Yes, clearly quite a large amount of time and effort was invested in that line, they all felt so 'fresh' and unhindered by the need to be slavishly 'G1', it was a real breath of fresh air
It's a real shame the Cloud Optimus Prime is so expensive on the aftermarket because it's easily my favourite G1-style deco for Prime.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 23rd, 2016 @ 3:45pm CST
megatronus wrote:I wilI proudly declare my support for this Springer - I like it. It may be my favorite version of this mold.
I second that notion!
Delta Magnus wrote:It's a real shame the Cloud Optimus Prime is so expensive on the aftermarket because it's easily my favourite G1-style deco for Prime.
I second that one too!
Posted by shajaki on January 23rd, 2016 @ 6:26pm CST
S'funny all the talk about Cloud Rodimus, I got one recently and felt very... underwhelmed. I think his base red is a little dark, and I got sorta bummed out when I realized I couldn't logically put him in my C/G movie display next to G Springer.
Posted by william-james88 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 8:39pm CST
shajaki wrote:I pre-ordered this Springer the second I could. Whatever shade of greens he turns out to be I'm sure he'll look fine in hand.
S'funny all the talk about Cloud Rodimus, I got one recently and felt very... underwhelmed. I think his base red is a little dark, and I got sorta bummed out when I realized I couldn't logically put him in my C/G movie display next to G Springer.
I totally get that last part. But what fans were happy about was that he was a better representation of his current appearance in MTMTE and that he scales well with Generations Magnus in that context.
By the way, lessons learnt, be very careful of searching "MTMTE Rodimus and Magnus" on google images, there is some fan art there you can never unsee.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 23rd, 2016 @ 8:43pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
By the way, lessons learnt, be very careful of searching "MTMTE Rodimus and Magnus" on google images, there is some fan art there you can never unsee.
And on the very top of the page too!
Posted by Agamemnon on January 23rd, 2016 @ 8:50pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:
By the way, lessons learnt, be very careful of searching "MTMTE Rodimus and Magnus" on google images, there is some fan art there you can never unsee.
And on the very top of the page too!
Indeed. This is like going to a high place and saying, "don't look down!!"
Posted by Cobotron on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:01pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:11pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:34pm CST
Let's see if we can get out of this back alley, and back to Main St.
What's left for the Legends line? Have all the 2014 Generations toys been released in Legends?
You guys think Takara will release Titan Masters under Legends or it's own line?
Posted by william-james88 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:45pm CST
Cobotron wrote:The strange and wonderful twists and turns of late night foruming.
Let's see if we can get out of this back alley, and back to Main St.
What's left for the Legends line? Have all the 2014 Generations toys been released in Legends?
You guys think Takara will release Titan Masters under Legends or it's own line?
There is still Jihaxus, nightbeat and crosscut. Though they might just skip nightbeat and release him when he is a proper headmaster. Crosscut I am not sure either. But Jihaxus is definitely a character they would do especially since they could offer the proper deco that homages the initial toy:
Posted by Sabrblade on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:49pm CST
But... But that's what the Hasbro Generations Jhiaxus toy's deco homaged and people hated that because it wasn't like Jhiaxus's original deco:william-james88 wrote:But Jihaxus is definitely a character they would do especially since they could offer the proper deco that homages the initial toy:
Posted by william-james88 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:54pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:But... But that's what the Hasbro Generations Jhiaxus toy's deco homaged and people hated that because it wasn't like Jhiaxus's original deco:
I thought the hasbro toy was homaging his current colour in the comics.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 23rd, 2016 @ 9:59pm CST
The comics, specifically the Dark Cybertron ones, got the colors from the Gen toy, which got the colors from the RiD toy. He was gold and silver with a red head in the comics before Dark Cybertron.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But... But that's what the Hasbro Generations Jhiaxus toy's deco homaged and people hated that because it wasn't like Jhiaxus's original deco:
I thought the hasbro toy was homaging his current colour in the comics.
Hasbro goofed up the colors on the Gen Jhiaxus when they went looking for deco references in their archive and found pics of the RiD toy first, assumed its colors were the correct ones, and based the Gen toy's colors on the RiD toy's colors instead Jhiaxus's original yellow/gold, white/silver, red, and green colors.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2016 @ 8:40am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro goofed up the colors on the Gen Jhiaxus when they went looking for deco references in their archive and found pics of the RiD toy first, assumed its colors were the correct ones, and based the Gen toy's colors on the RiD toy's colors instead Jhiaxus's original yellow/gold, white/silver, red, and green colors.
Ah my bad. I knew there was a mistake with the deco, I just confused what the mistake was. And I am reading the comics now so I get confused as to what came first with toys and comics. Like I know now that the design for Generations deluxe megatron was first in the comics but wasnt sure for jihaxus. He was in issue 10 of IDW TF RID from 2012 right? Was his deco orange then?
But in any case, if Takara is gonna keep the legends line for a gen toy that wasnt released yet, it would totally be for Jihaxus in proper colours. That would be a sure buy for a lot of folks.
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2016 @ 10:02am CST
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2016 @ 2:52pm CST
I'd like to see the gen mold done up in these colors. I picked up the safety/hunter's orange version on the cheap because I didn't own the mold yet and I like the Jhiaxus remolding better. It's a pretty fun mold, but I had to take a file to the backpack peg to get mine to peg in correctly in bot mode. I also do a little fanforming and fold his wings to point backwards. I think it looks nice.Sabrblade wrote:
I've seen a really great fan repaint. Well whatta ya know, here it is.
I have to keep stopping myself from buying that super mode Starscream. That deco is just killer. And speaking of expensive Starscreams... dat Cloud verion has all of my wants.
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2016 @ 4:01pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2016 @ 4:03pm CST
Cobotron wrote::oops: Guys... where did Jihaxus originate from. Marvel comics?
Generation 2 Marvel Comics, yes.
Shows up in practically same incarnation in ReGeneration One, as well.
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2016 @ 4:08pm CST
that first pic is awesome. I love how color looked on comics printed on newsprint.
His head design is awesomely diabolical.
If Takara released one like that custom, I would consider trading up.
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2016 @ 4:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote: He was in issue 10 of IDW TF RID from 2012 right? Was his deco orange then?
That was more of a, shall we say, repair measure, by having the issue reflect what the toy looked like, and giving it some sort of in-story reason for it. Felt very silly at the time, though I never thought it was that forced. But yes. Fun stuffs.
Likelihood of Legends picking up on it? Slim.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2016 @ 7:25pm CST
Then again, stranger things have happened. Like United Straxus both being a thing and being based directly on Straxus's deco from his appearance in Marvel G1 issue #18 (the Hasbro toy's deco is an amalgam of his colors from both issues 17 and 18). Or the CW Rook mold getting redecoed into IDW Roller for Unite Warriors.Va'al wrote:Likelihood of Legends picking up on it? Slim.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2016 @ 9:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Then again, stranger things have happened. Like United Straxus both being a thing and being based directly on Straxus's deco from his appearance in Marvel G1 issue #18 (the Hasbro toy's deco is an amalgam of his colors from both issues 17 and 18). Or the CW Rook mold getting redecoed into IDW Roller for Unite Warriors.Va'al wrote:Likelihood of Legends picking up on it? Slim.
I don't think we need to look any further than mp g2 sideswipe
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:40am CST
"...These images show a different looking color scheme that shows a more accurate CARTOON DECO...
Fixed it for you.
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 8:40am CST
carytheone wrote: And speaking of expensive Starscreams... dat Cloud verion has all of my wants.
Stay away from that Stasrcream Cary! Of all the expensive Clod redecos that one by far uses the worst mold. Do you have any experience with that Blitzwing mold? The only thing worse than spending money on it is spending a lot of money on it. Fo the same price you could get Galaxy Force Starscream, which is objectiely a much more crucial figure in a collection for the simple reason that it has no decent Hasbro counterpart (similar case to Prime Breakdown).
Posted by Va'al on January 25th, 2016 @ 8:44am CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Then again, stranger things have happened. Like United Straxus both being a thing and being based directly on Straxus's deco from his appearance in Marvel G1 issue #18 (the Hasbro toy's deco is an amalgam of his colors from both issues 17 and 18). Or the CW Rook mold getting redecoed into IDW Roller for Unite Warriors.Va'al wrote:Likelihood of Legends picking up on it? Slim.
I don't think we need to look any further than mp g2 sideswipe
I think Sideswipe is part of a different conversation, having seen the fascination that some Japanese artists have for the gritty 90s style of US/UK comics (Dredd, G2, that sort of thing). I mean, it was a whole bundle of cross-influences to begin with, so it's more of a two buckets in the same well situation, really.
Though that sort of agrees with your points, too. Hm.
Posted by no-one on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:24pm CST
I have Double Dealer so I know what's what with that mold (the issues don't bother me). I just think the paint job on cloud Starscream looks great. Sometimes it's just nice to want things. I got a little burned on my last expensive Japanese only figure and it will be my last for a long long time.william-james88 wrote:carytheone wrote: And speaking of expensive Starscreams... dat Cloud verion has all of my wants.
Stay away from that Stasrcream Cary! Of all the expensive Clod redecos that one by far uses the worst mold. Do you have any experience with that Blitzwing mold? The only thing worse than spending money on it is spending a lot of money on it. Fo the same price you could get Galaxy Force Starscream, which is objectiely a much more crucial figure in a collection for the simple reason that it has no decent Hasbro counterpart (similar case to Prime Breakdown).
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:54pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Crosscut is a good call too, Will. I can see Takara doing him for sure, but I'm not sure how they could improve upon Hasbro's deco. The Gen release's deco is Takara good.
Instead of hasbro's mat silver plastic and candy apple red, Takara's would be silver paint and candy apple red. So essentially Imagine the stock photo as the ideal of a TT crosscut