New Image: Transformers Legends Lio Convoy

So... where's that gun from? Have we seen it before? It's certainly not one of the Titan Master guns.

Kurona wrote:So... where's that gun from? Have we seen it before? It's certainly not one of the Titan Master guns.

It's sentinels being held upside-down

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... where's that gun from? Have we seen it before? It's certainly not one of the Titan Master guns.

It's sentinels being held upside-down

You didn't believe me the first time, huh K?
Why you no trust Cobotron?

I agree Diac's face is a near perfect match, but I like the way the one he has has a much more fierce and threatening, rough and wild appearance. A good fit for a beast bot. Plus he's not the same Leo Convoy. He re-scanned man!
I do dig how the metallic blue of the gun and head pulls the color from the old design.

Urge to preorder rising....

I love the colour scheme on Lio Convoy, it looks so much better than Alpha Trion, though I do plan to pick up both versions of the mould. *Tracer voice* The world could always use more Maximals. Or Cybertrons, whatever.

Preordered him. Hopefully I can afford him when he comes out, that color scheme looks fantastic and I already really like the Sentinel head sculpt.

From Takara:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

Best "Supreme Commander's Day" photo op ever.

In (my) hand: IMHO simply the best TR/LG into these two waves

Logan, I've got this sneaking suspicion that you really like Blurr. I can't quite put my finger on why, but my gut is usually right on these things.

Wolfman , I Super love Hardhead, but about overall quality, IMHO:

1 LG Blurr
2 LG/TR Hardhead
3 TR/LG Wolfwire/Weirdwolf

Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

I'd like to see as well. I own a vintage GaoGaiGar, but I really don't see any connection between the two.

Unless it was just a bad joke.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

I'd like to see as well. I own a vintage GaoGaiGar, but I really don't see any connection between the two.

Unless it was just a bad joke.

Emerje

Preeeeeeeeeetty sure he was just making a joke, yes.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

Hang on, I got this one.

GaiGar


GaoGaiGar



Legends Lio Convoy




Yeah I'm veering on the side of joke. Nicely done, though!

Well, three versions of Leo Prime were redecos/retools of molds inspired by Galeon/Gaigar:

Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

King Kuuga wrote:Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

It's chuck's personal opinion. Does not necessarily mean it's true. If you ask me, it's the TF Go! Samurai/Ninja team combiner that looks more like Gaogaigar.

King Kuuga wrote:Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

The Cybertron line drew plenty of inspiration from that particular series, like Hot Shot's transformation being partially based on Volfogg, Super Optimus Prime's helmet having a similar shape to Gaogaigar's, and Leobreaker is said to be based on Galeon (that's what I was going for in my previous post). Lio Convoy himself is probably based more on Leo from Jungle Emperor aka Kimba the White Lion.

I was half joking, half serious. Basically, the white lion with gold is where the similarities end. I didn't know just how much Cybertron was influenced by GGG. I knew Armada Prime's move in the cartoon was based on Heaven and Hell, but that can go on, and on.

Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

I'm not 100% sure on this but isn't the whole cult of the white lion down to some famous white lion in a Japanese Zoo ?

That is why White lions pop up so much (also as a Battle Beast)- as well as in Bandai lines too quite often - likewise white tigers.

Sort of like the reasons Magmatron has such a odd choice of creature alt modes is because they are ones linked to some saurus skeleton in the 1990's japan was big on Meglosaurus it may even be why Metroplex was called Megloconvoy too.

There may be some greater cultural significance to white cats that I am not aware of though that may be common knowledge to a native Japanese person.
Heck perhaps they are even linking things to the Lucky cat statues they have in Asian so much.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Which would be a very doable with the Sky Shadow mold.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Titanium series Rodimus might be that size. That's my best guess.

Maybe Cloud Rodimus?

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Titanium series Rodimus might be that size. That's my best guess.

Nah, that mold's on the small side, even for a Deluxe. The TR Cerebros/Legends Fortress mold is rather tall Deluxe, but smaller than a full sized Voyager.

Classics or CW Optimus and MP-28 Hot Rodimus would fit the bill, I think.

Kurona wrote:Classics or CW Optimus and MP-28 Hot Rodimus would fit the bill, I think.

Classics/Henkei Optimus Prime would probably be a better fit, CW Prime is pretty tall.



And he said no Hot Rod(imus).

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Kurona wrote:Classics or CW Optimus and MP-28 Hot Rodimus would fit the bill, I think.

Classics/Henkei Optimus Prime would probably be a better fit, CW Prime is pretty tall.



And he said no Hot Rod(imus).

Emerje

I mean, Hot Rod and Rodimus are the same guy. And it's not exactly like they have any actual visual difference.

Cobotron wrote:Maybe Cloud Rodimus?

At that point, might as well go with MP Hot Rodimus. He's only Hot Rod in scale when looking at the MP line, he makes just as much a convincing Rodimus Prime for a classics collection.

Ya, sorry. I was thinking Fortress/Cerebros was a tad larger than a voyager. I miss remembered that he is a tad larger than a deluxe.

My bad.
Carry on.

Kurona wrote:I mean, Hot Rod and Rodimus are the same guy. And it's not exactly like they have any actual visual difference.

Right, but he was looking for Rodimus Prime, not Hot Rod.

Emerje

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Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Hopefully Takara would want to complete this shot... because the ultimate CHUG Prime is overdue.

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Hopefully Takara would want to complete this shot... because the ultimate CHUG Prime is overdue.

And just for fun...

What about the iPod G1 color Optimus Prime brick?

Actually titanium Rodimus is a little taller than the average deluxe. He's certainly taller than classics Rodimus and Arcee. I use him for my classics Rodimus and he fits in very nicely.

If this was already discussed gomen but I found this from another site while browsing tfwiki Yahoo auction link (which was dead)

A much bigger TR/TL Galvatron helmet prototype which was said to be the basis of the initial CGI renders.

fenrir72 wrote:If this was already discussed gomen but I found this from another site while browsing tfwiki Yahoo auction link (which was dead)

A much bigger TR/TL Galvatron helmet prototype which was said to be the basis of the initial CGI renders.

I remember seeing this get posted in the main TR thread awhile back, but there wasn't much discussion about it at all, really.

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It's hard to go wrong either way, honestly. Hasbro's and Takara's versions of Weirdwolf are very close, with only minor differences in paint apps and head sculpts. I hope we get a repaint down the line, maybe as Cybertron Snarl?

Wolfman Jake wrote:I hope we get a repaint down the line, maybe as Cybertron Snarl?

Actually, used for the rumored Pounce I think he'll be. Only two changes, the wolf head and face he'd need.

In bot mode there really isn't a whole lot of difference outside of the head, but I prefer Hasbro's wolf mode with the added gray and blue which comes directly from the original figure.



The Legends version is too yellow for my taste.

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I hope we get a repaint down the line, maybe as Cybertron Snarl?

Actually, used for the rumored Pounce I think he'll be. Only two changes, the wolf head and face he'd need.

Ah, good call. Perhaps a retooled Mindwipe as Wingspan? It might take a bit more extensive retooling to get the robot modes to really "match" though. Gotta be able to believe that they are "clones" of one another, unless Hasbro is just going to give up that conceit entirely. It would make it more difficult to differentiate the two on store shelves, since Hasbro packages their deluxes in robot mode now.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Ah, good call. Perhaps a retooled Mindwipe as Wingspan? It might take a bit more extensive retooling to get the robot modes to really "match" though. Gotta be able to believe that they are "clones" of one another, unless Hasbro is just going to give up that conceit entirely. It would make it more difficult to differentiate the two on store shelves, since Hasbro packages their deluxes in robot mode now.

On Wingspan Hawk, my thoughts exactly. I don't think selling them will be much of a problem, as they're rumored to be in a box set. The Autobot Clones are rumored as such as well.

Both Weirdwolf figures looks great and this is one of the rare times I like the look of the Hasbro version better. His headsculpt just looks more, menacing I guess. Thanks for the comparison photos.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:If this was already discussed gomen but I found this from another site while browsing tfwiki Yahoo auction link (which was dead)

A much bigger TR/TL Galvatron helmet prototype which was said to be the basis of the initial CGI renders.

I remember seeing this get posted in the main TR thread awhile back, but there wasn't much discussion about it at all, really.

Curious with that prototype of TR Galvatron shown, but is the helmet part of the Titan Master sculpt or does it flip out of the chest like in the final version? I looks like it was more or less part of the Titan Master's sculpt to me.

Tyrannacon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:If this was already discussed gomen but I found this from another site while browsing tfwiki Yahoo auction link (which was dead)

A much bigger TR/TL Galvatron helmet prototype which was said to be the basis of the initial CGI renders.

I remember seeing this get posted in the main TR thread awhile back, but there wasn't much discussion about it at all, really.

Curious with that prototype of TR Galvatron shown, but is the helmet part of the Titan Master sculpt or does it flip out of the chest like in the final version? I looks like it was more or less part of the Titan Master's sculpt to me.

It borrowed heavily from the Studio Ox artworks back in the late 80s. The middle horn is protruding unlike the final product and looks a lot bigger.

As for being part of the head or the actual body, there still is that panel on his chest. As to whether it is spring mounted, your guess is as good as mine.

The Titan Master still appears to be Nebulon, but the face almost looks like it's part of the separate mask/crown and isn't shaped like the one on Nebulon (doesn't have the angular cheeks and eyes seem softer). It could just be the lighting, but I wonder if they decided to scrap this method when none of the other planned Voyagers were like this and went with the simpler crown instead?

Emerje