New Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-21 Masterpiece Bumblebee

Sabrblade wrote:Hrmmm... not quite as show-accurate as I had hoped.

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1395674511_10153297_598475006904906_1511123406_n.jpg

Amelie wrote:The backpack just confirms they should have avoided a realistic alt-mode and gone for the deformed look of the cartoon model and the original toy.

As stated before - we're stylistically back in the pre-MP10 with bad gimmicks and questionable choices when it comes to altmode\robot mode looks.

Amelie wrote:The backpack just confirms they should have avoided a realistic alt-mode and gone for the deformed look of the cartoon model and the original toy.

As stated before - we're stylistically back in the pre-MP10 with bad gimmicks and questionable choices when it comes to altmode\robot mode looks.

El Duque wrote:What gimmick are you referring to?

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

Stormrider wrote:

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

The backpack may not look so bad once it is all yellow. Looks like there is another page in the picture, but cut off. Has that page been posted already?

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

Can we take it by some kinda reverse logic that you're NOT ok with the backpack if it isn't?

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

Seibertron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

Here's a quick photoshopped image to illustrate what I have in mind. Hopefully this is what they're thinking too!

Amelie wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

Can we take it by some kinda reverse logic that you're NOT ok with the backpack if it isn't?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Add four pieces of faux-parts (the wheels), a new head and we're good to go

Seibertron wrote:But again, if this "cheat" was done with Goldbug in mind, I'm AOK with that decision.

Amelie wrote:

El Duque wrote:What gimmick are you referring to?

The face-changing gimmick.

El Duque wrote:I'm not a fan gimmicks either, but like a previous poster mentioned this is more of an option than a gimmick. This faceswap doesn't affect the figure's engineering in the way light and sound features would.

Amelie wrote:

El Duque wrote:I'm not a fan gimmicks either, but like a previous poster mentioned this is more of an option than a gimmick. This faceswap doesn't affect the figure's engineering in the way light and sound features would.

Thing that troubles me about the face-changing gimmick is how strong the hold will be after a few changes and if you'll have collectors having to glue the faceplate on instead

Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:

Amelie wrote:

El Duque wrote:I'm not a fan gimmicks either, but like a previous poster mentioned this is more of an option than a gimmick. This faceswap doesn't affect the figure's engineering in the way light and sound features would.

Thing that troubles me about the face-changing gimmick is how strong the hold will be after a few changes and if you'll have collectors having to glue the faceplate on instead

A 'collector' will not take the toy out of the box. If you are a 'fan' you will be playing with the toys and posing them and enjoying the option of changing the face and giving BB a war face.

Seibertron wrote:

Amelie wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

Can we take it by some kinda reverse logic that you're NOT ok with the backpack if it isn't?

If the mold is just used for Bumblebee, then yeah I think the backpack is a bit disappointing but I don't know what else I would have expected them to do. Somehow having the back pack fold up or invert or something to make it look less like half the top of the car hanging off his back would have been great. It doesn't look terrible, just not what I was expecting.

But again, if this "cheat" was done with Goldbug in mind, I'm AOK with that decision.

Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:

Amelie wrote:

El Duque wrote:I'm not a fan gimmicks either, but like a previous poster mentioned this is more of an option than a gimmick. This faceswap doesn't affect the figure's engineering in the way light and sound features would.

Thing that troubles me about the face-changing gimmick is how strong the hold will be after a few changes and if you'll have collectors having to glue the faceplate on instead

A 'collector' will not take the toy out of the box. If you are a 'fan' you will be playing with the toys and posing them and enjoying the option of changing the face and giving BB a war face.

Seibertron wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

The backpack may not look so bad once it is all yellow. Looks like there is another page in the picture, but cut off. Has that page been posted already?

I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

VioMeTriX wrote:

Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:

Amelie wrote:

El Duque wrote:I'm not a fan gimmicks either, but like a previous poster mentioned this is more of an option than a gimmick. This faceswap doesn't affect the figure's engineering in the way light and sound features would.

Thing that troubles me about the face-changing gimmick is how strong the hold will be after a few changes and if you'll have collectors having to glue the faceplate on instead

A 'collector' will not take the toy out of the box. If you are a 'fan' you will be playing with the toys and posing them and enjoying the option of changing the face and giving BB a war face.

im a collector with close to 1500 pieces in my collection.... I don't keep them all in boxes... so don't define a "collector" the way you have, it is sorely inaccurate.

VioMeTriX wrote:I am a G1 purist, so I will not be changing the face.

Sabrblade wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:I am a G1 purist, so I will not be changing the face.

Both the faces and the mask are from G1, silly.

Stormrider wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

The backpack may not look so bad once it is all yellow. Looks like there is another page in the picture, but cut off. Has that page been posted already?

I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

So is the wheel on his back one of the rear wheels, or is it a spare tire? If it's a spare tire, then I wish they didn't add it.

GuyIncognito wrote:Thank God they keep releasing details, so we can keep finding things to complain about.

hinomars19 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

El Duque wrote:Here's a second Takara Tomy Transformers MP-21 Bumblebee for your Monday morning! Weibo user 北马伊斯力 has shared a magazine scan that gives us our first clear look at the figure from behind. Image mirrored below:

The backpack may not look so bad once it is all yellow. Looks like there is another page in the picture, but cut off. Has that page been posted already?

I wonder if the back pack can spin around to recreate the hooded back pack look on Goldbug. If this was designed with that in mind, I'm OK with this back pack.

So is the wheel on his back one of the rear wheels, or is it a spare tire? If it's a spare tire, then I wish they didn't add it.

It's the spare. It can be seen clearly on the alt mode pics that were released last time. Sadly this is the first real time an MP acting like a Binaltech or Alternity has really harmed the idea of being cartoon accurate. It's the same issue with MP Megatron, %100 alt mode accuracy is harming the robot mode. It's probably to keep the sponsors happy, no doubt a condition under them giving TT the licence. I was never fussed about Masterpieces lavishly re-creating the real world car down to the last detail, -though it has worked so far- but it probably can't be helped. I've no idea if this was one of the goals of Hasui himself, but the car companies would demand it regardless

Bumblebee (as with megatron, who wasn't really a walther in the toon, just a giant gun...) really needs some flexibility...stick only with what's needed to make him Bumblebee. Alas.

Stormrider wrote:The backpack doesn't look that bad in my opinion. We have definitely seen worse, but I do understand what you mean. Were spare tires ever put on the rear of real Super Beetles? I thought they went in the front trunk?

Cyberpath wrote:

Stormrider wrote:The backpack doesn't look that bad in my opinion. We have definitely seen worse, but I do understand what you mean. Were spare tires ever put on the rear of real Super Beetles? I thought they went in the front trunk?

As far as I can tell from the prototype photos there's no spare wheel on the VW Beetle mode. I think it's just a cool nod to this:

craggy wrote:I've seen Beetles with spares on the back. Not sure on the exact models though.

Amelie wrote:Its been a while since a Masterpiece toy has proven so divisive.

Amelie wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Stormrider wrote:The backpack doesn't look that bad in my opinion. We have definitely seen worse, but I do understand what you mean. Were spare tires ever put on the rear of real Super Beetles? I thought they went in the front trunk?

As far as I can tell from the prototype photos there's no spare wheel on the VW Beetle mode. I think it's just a cool nod to this:

Which is bonkers because that black ring detail is actually present on the original G1 toy. Its not a spare wheel, its what it appears to be - a ring detail.
There was some kinda wheel-like sticker on the back of the car where his head is, though.