New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter
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By way of our friends at Autobase Aichi we have new images of the upcoming Million Publishing/Hero-X exclusives, Shouki and GoShooter. These figures will be mail away exclusives the Transformers Generations 2014 Volumes 1 and 2 respectively. GoShooter, who is a redeco of the Generations Deluxe Nightbeat mold, was the winner of a fan poll to determine the Volume 2 exclusive. This image reveals that GoShooter will come with the Generations Blazemaster/Spinister Legends Targetmaster figure to represent Shuta Go. Check out the image mirrored below:
Update: Hero-X has updated with a couple of additional images.
Update: Hero-X has updated with a couple of additional images.
Credit(s): Autobase Aichi, Hero-X
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Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1597971)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:51am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:51am CDT
GoShooter with Gō Shūta... 
Well played.
I should note that to all the Japanophiles is that while the Transformer name uses Katakana (ゴーシューター Gōshūtā) the human as a native Japanese uses regular Kanji (剛 秀太 Gō Shūta).
Well played.I should note that to all the Japanophiles is that while the Transformer name uses Katakana (ゴーシューター Gōshūtā) the human as a native Japanese uses regular Kanji (剛 秀太 Gō Shūta).
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1597976)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 11:02am CDT
Boo. They used an unfun mold for Shuta. I wanted one with more than just articulated shoulders. A PCC Micron would have worked better.
I thought you knew he was coming with Shuta.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:GoShooter with Gō Shūta...
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1597978)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 11:06am CDT
Just that he came with a Mini-Con.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 11:06am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Boo. They used an unfun mold for Shuta. I wanted one with more than just articulated shoulders. A PCC Micron would have worked better.I thought you knew he was coming with Shuta.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:GoShooter with Gō Shūta...
Just that he came with a Mini-Con.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1597994)
Posted by Rated X on August 9th, 2014 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on August 9th, 2014 @ 12:18pm CDT
All the cool choices and the fans chose the crappiest character using the crappiest mold ? Who is this guy ? Is he even G1 ?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1597996)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 12:25pm CDT
No, he's a previously unknown Gobot. OK I was joking. Read the previous posts, Sabrblade has explained it already, so I'm not gonna repeat it
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 9th, 2014 @ 12:25pm CDT
Rated X wrote:All the cool choices and the fans chose the crappiest character using the crappiest mold ? Who is this guy ? Is he even G1 ?
No, he's a previously unknown Gobot.
OK I was joking. Read the previous posts, Sabrblade has explained it already, so I'm not gonna repeat it
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598011)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 9th, 2014 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by Tigertrack on August 9th, 2014 @ 1:08pm CDT
I like it. Bit of Masterforce/Victory is usually good. I question the helicopter targetmaster for Shuta. But I'm not sure there is something that works better and looks somewhat like an exosuited human. I was thinking maybe a police car micron, but this is not a deal breaker. Cool.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598053)
Posted by Mkall on August 9th, 2014 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on August 9th, 2014 @ 3:47pm CDT
It's not the one I wanted most out of that poll, but I'll get him and place him beside Metalhawk.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598055)
Posted by hinomars19 on August 9th, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
I agree!
I'd love to get this! Siren was my only headmaster toy as a kid, so I quite like Go-shooter. Sadly funds make it pointless to try and get one. Maybe if Nightbeat feels like turning up at retail I'll get 2 and paint my own...
Posted by hinomars19 on August 9th, 2014 @ 3:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Boo. They used an unfun mold for Shuta. I wanted one with more than just articulated shoulders. A PCC Micron would have worked better.
I agree!
I'd love to get this! Siren was my only headmaster toy as a kid, so I quite like Go-shooter. Sadly funds make it pointless to try and get one. Maybe if Nightbeat feels like turning up at retail I'll get 2 and paint my own...
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598058)
Posted by DMSL on August 9th, 2014 @ 4:11pm CDT
Posted by DMSL on August 9th, 2014 @ 4:11pm CDT
A very nice figure, but i don't care about the ugly targetmaster wannabee or the "aqua" guns this mold comes with. Hopefully it will have a normal gun that you can hide somewhere. What they really should have done is actually make him a new mold and a headmaster.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598063)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 9th, 2014 @ 4:34pm CDT
quite true for 90% of reprints we get...then there would have been a lot more choices on the poll to vote for if they weren't doing repaints of existing figures. Hasbro/Takara doesn't seem to have much interest in actual headmasters, except the soon to be released Brainstorm. So Million Pub doesn't have many options for using I that regard.
Posted by Tigertrack on August 9th, 2014 @ 4:34pm CDT
DMSL wrote:A very nice figure, but i don't care about the ugly targetmaster wannabee or the "aqua" guns this mold comes with. Hopefully it will have a normal gun that you can hide somewhere. What they really should have done is actually make him a new mold and a headmaster.
quite true for 90% of reprints we get...then there would have been a lot more choices on the poll to vote for if they weren't doing repaints of existing figures. Hasbro/Takara doesn't seem to have much interest in actual headmasters, except the soon to be released Brainstorm. So Million Pub doesn't have many options for using I that regard.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598102)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:52pm CDT
Goshooter, better known as Shuta Go, was one of the Autobot Headmaster Juniors from the Japanese Super-God Masterforce cartoon. His toy was a redeco of the G1 Siren toy.
However, don't let that video clip fool you. Though he looks to be a mere human merging with a lifeless Transformer body when he transforms into robot mode in this video, the end of the series had all of the human-bonded TFs gaining their own life and separating from the humans completely, no longer needing them anymore.
This new toy of Goshooter represents the fully-living robot version of him after that series, so there's no need to worry about some human boding with him to give him life. But, the little Targetmaster this toy comes with is meant to be that same human, by now grown up into an adult, likely wearing a Targetmaster exosuit like those we saw the G1 Targetmasters wearing in the three-part G1 cartoon episode "The Rebirth".
Though, you did previously make this post in this topic, so this news about Goshooter shouldn't be new to you.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:52pm CDT
I'll do JelZe to favor of say, yes, he is a G1 character, and a well done one at that.Rated X wrote:All the cool choices and the fans chose the crappiest character using the crappiest mold ? Who is this guy ? Is he even G1 ?
Goshooter, better known as Shuta Go, was one of the Autobot Headmaster Juniors from the Japanese Super-God Masterforce cartoon. His toy was a redeco of the G1 Siren toy.
However, don't let that video clip fool you. Though he looks to be a mere human merging with a lifeless Transformer body when he transforms into robot mode in this video, the end of the series had all of the human-bonded TFs gaining their own life and separating from the humans completely, no longer needing them anymore.
This new toy of Goshooter represents the fully-living robot version of him after that series, so there's no need to worry about some human boding with him to give him life. But, the little Targetmaster this toy comes with is meant to be that same human, by now grown up into an adult, likely wearing a Targetmaster exosuit like those we saw the G1 Targetmasters wearing in the three-part G1 cartoon episode "The Rebirth".
Though, you did previously make this post in this topic, so this news about Goshooter shouldn't be new to you.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598729)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:34pm CDT
Last week we reported our first look at clear images of Goshooter here And now thanks to HeroX we have new images of the fan voted Million Publishing exclusives GoShooter in both Robot and Alt modes as well as his Targetmaster. Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598731)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:49pm CDT
There's something in one of the bios about either Goshooter or Shuta being a "Godmaster Junior", but it's difficult for me to make out as it sounds like the smaller helicopter figure is the Godmaster Junor Transtector instead of the larger Deluxe figure (which would make more sense than the smaller figure, but it sounds like it is referring to the smaller figure, hence the confusion here).
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598734)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 12:58pm CDT
I just noticed something in the robot mode: the shoulder kibble has an alternate transformation to make it look more like the original G1 Siren/Goshooter toy:
It makes me wonder if that's the reason why Gen. Bumblebee was used for Nightbeat/Siren instead of RtS Jazz.
It makes me wonder if that's the reason why Gen. Bumblebee was used for Nightbeat/Siren instead of RtS Jazz.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598747)
Posted by Skywarp64 on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:43pm CDT
Posted by Skywarp64 on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:43pm CDT
Still can't believe this utter nobody Go-Shooter was elected rather than Alpha Trion. So pissed at that.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598750)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:48pm CDT
And that Alpha Trion toy looked less like Alpha Trion and more like Scourge cosplaying as Alpha Trion.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:48pm CDT
He is not a nobody in Japan, where this poll was aimed at. Japan got many many more iconic, beloved, very popular G1 characters that the Western World never got. It's like when Star Saber won the Masterpiece Fans Choice poll. These characters won these Japanese polls because they're very darn popular characters in Japan.Skywarp64 wrote:Still can't believe this utter nobody Go-Shooter was elected rather than Alpha Trion. So pissed at that.
And that Alpha Trion toy looked less like Alpha Trion and more like Scourge cosplaying as Alpha Trion.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598751)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:51pm CDT
And we don't go BS crazy when an obscure character like Scoop gets a new toy?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:51pm CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:Still can't believe this utter nobody Go-Shooter was elected rather than Alpha Trion. So pissed at that.
And we don't go BS crazy when an obscure character like Scoop gets a new toy?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598752)
Posted by gothsaurus on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on August 12th, 2014 @ 1:51pm CDT
Yeah, I totally think this was designed as Nightbeat, and the alternate transformation and Bumblebee version was tacked on second. With the shoulders down, it really does make a great GoShooter/Nightbeat. This paint job also looks like it has a lot of detail. Really happy with it.
That said, I DO really hope they re-visit the list they showed. Many — like Alpha Trion — deserve to be made. Police Sunstreaker also in my top choices.
As for the Omnibots... I hope they get their own new molds. While they were at the top of my choices, they were each admittedly a little off.
That said, I DO really hope they re-visit the list they showed. Many — like Alpha Trion — deserve to be made. Police Sunstreaker also in my top choices.
As for the Omnibots... I hope they get their own new molds. While they were at the top of my choices, they were each admittedly a little off.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598757)
Posted by Flashwave on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:07pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:07pm CDT
The more I look at this, the more I wish this mold had become Barricade instead of BH Smokescreen.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598760)
Posted by K2vox on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by K2vox on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:24pm CDT
WTF is with that stupid blue panel right by the door??? Talk about a fail. All the other paint apps look good but geez.. throw this toy in the garbage! 
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598761)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 2:27pm CDT
Unpaintable nylon plastic. Molded on the same sprue as other parts of his robot mode that need to be blue. Can't be helped.K2vox wrote:WTF is with that stupid blue panel right by the door??? Talk about a fail. All the other paint apps look good but geez.. throw this toy in the garbage!
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598817)
Posted by Rated X on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CDT
From far away the logo on the hood of the car looks like a clown face. 
So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ? I cant believe they voted for this over alpha trion, silverbolt and the omnibots.
So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ? I cant believe they voted for this over alpha trion, silverbolt and the omnibots.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598819)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:31pm CDT
I think the original concept of the poll escaped him, but still, being that annoyed at the results is a bit strange, considering we would have to import regardless of who won
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:31pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:Still can't believe this utter nobody Go-Shooter was elected rather than Alpha Trion. So pissed at that.
And we don't go BS crazy when an obscure character like Scoop gets a new toy?
I think the original concept of the poll escaped him, but still, being that annoyed at the results is a bit strange, considering we would have to import regardless of who won
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598822)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:41pm CDT
I explained who he is here:
Posted by Sabrblade on August 12th, 2014 @ 4:41pm CDT
No, JelZe was teasing with you.Rated X wrote:So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ?
I explained who he is here:
Sabrblade wrote:I'll do JelZe to favor of say, yes, he is a G1 character, and a well done one at that.Rated X wrote:All the cool choices and the fans chose the crappiest character using the crappiest mold ? Who is this guy ? Is he even G1 ?
Goshooter, better known as Shuta Go, was one of the Autobot Headmaster Juniors from the Japanese Super-God Masterforce cartoon. His toy was a redeco of the G1 Siren toy.
However, don't let that video clip fool you. Though he looks to be a mere human merging with a lifeless Transformer body when he transforms into robot mode in this video, the end of the series had all of the human-bonded TFs gaining their own life and separating from the humans completely, no longer needing them anymore.
This new toy of Goshooter represents the fully-living robot version of him after that series, so there's no need to worry about some human boding with him to give him life. But, the little Targetmaster this toy comes with is meant to be that same human, by now grown up into an adult, likely wearing a Targetmaster exosuit like those we saw the G1 Targetmasters wearing in the three-part G1 cartoon episode "The Rebirth".
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598828)
Posted by gothsaurus on August 12th, 2014 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on August 12th, 2014 @ 5:07pm CDT
Yeah, after these ideas are out 'on the table' for Takara and Hasbro.... I bet we can bank on seeing at least one or two of them in the next year or two.
I mean, look at the Protectobot set... they're getting some repaint value out of those guys... and still, I'm loving it. If it's a good mold, bring on the retools and repaints.
I mean, look at the Protectobot set... they're getting some repaint value out of those guys... and still, I'm loving it. If it's a good mold, bring on the retools and repaints.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598831)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2014 @ 5:13pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 12th, 2014 @ 5:13pm CDT
I never realized he came with a targetmaster as well, interesting I must of glanced over the pictures without fully looking.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598853)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 6:27pm CDT
on so many levels, I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious with the emoticon and hidden text.
Anyway, see Sabrblade's post just above mine. Seriously, it's like the third time he's told you.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 12th, 2014 @ 6:27pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ? I cant believe they voted for this over alpha trion, silverbolt and the omnibots.
on so many levels, I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious with the emoticon and hidden text. Anyway, see Sabrblade's post just above mine. Seriously, it's like the third time he's told you.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598882)
Posted by jgilkinson on August 12th, 2014 @ 8:19pm CDT
Posted by jgilkinson on August 12th, 2014 @ 8:19pm CDT
Not sure why there is such a lack of love for this one, think it is a really good use of that mold. I am hoping for a Siren repaint but not holding my breath, was one of my fav figures when I was a kid.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598886)
Posted by shajaki on August 12th, 2014 @ 8:55pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on August 12th, 2014 @ 8:55pm CDT
theres really no reason for me to like this. a character ive never heard of, a mold i dont like, even his targetmaster i dont care for. and a big price tag to boot.
BUT I LIKE IT. i like it, and want it. whyyyyyyy....
maybe its just the colors work well for me, the head sculpt, i dunno. but i like it. im confident after him being out for a while i get snag him for a discount. if so, he's so mine
BUT I LIKE IT. i like it, and want it. whyyyyyyy....
maybe its just the colors work well for me, the head sculpt, i dunno. but i like it. im confident after him being out for a while i get snag him for a discount. if so, he's so mine
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598912)
Posted by Rated X on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:02am CDT
I know very little about the Japanese G1 cartoons. I would watch them, but I just cant get past those annoying subtitles and voices that all sound like the same actor.
How many times was the mold used in Japan ?
Nightbeat
Minerva
Goshooter
Siren (never heard of him either)
Posted by Rated X on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:02am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ? I cant believe they voted for this over alpha trion, silverbolt and the omnibots.
Anyway, see Sabrblade's post just above mine. Seriously, it's like the third time he's told you.
I know very little about the Japanese G1 cartoons. I would watch them, but I just cant get past those annoying subtitles and voices that all sound like the same actor.
How many times was the mold used in Japan ?
Nightbeat
Minerva
Goshooter
Siren (never heard of him either)
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598913)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:10am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:10am CDT
I was very "meh" before on this, but seeing this mock-up, it looks fantastic! And it's not even a character that was even on my radar until the recent Million Publishing poll. I'm going to have to get around to watching the Japanese G1 cartoon spin-offs soon.
Nightbeat and Minerva shared a mold. Nightbeat was Hasbro's release. Minerva was Takara's mainline release, but a special mail-away version of her in Nightbeat's colors (though still identified as Minverva) was made available later on in Japan.
Siren and Goshooter shared a completely DIFFERENT mold. Siren was the Hasbro release while Goshooter was the Takara release. Again, a version of Goshooter with Siren's colors was available later on in Japan, but once more, it was presumably supposed to be the same character with a new paint scheme, not the Hasbro character.
You could learn quite a bit with just a few minutes or research on tfwiki.net or a similar Transformers database.
Rated X wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:So goshooter is supposed to be a gobot ? I cant believe they voted for this over alpha trion, silverbolt and the omnibots.
Anyway, see Sabrblade's post just above mine. Seriously, it's like the third time he's told you.
I know very little about the Japanese G1 cartoons. I would watch them, but I just cant get past those annoying subtitles and voices that all sound like the same actor.
How many times was the mold used in Japan ?
Nightbeat
Minerva
Goshooter
Siren (never heard of him either)
Nightbeat and Minerva shared a mold. Nightbeat was Hasbro's release. Minerva was Takara's mainline release, but a special mail-away version of her in Nightbeat's colors (though still identified as Minverva) was made available later on in Japan.
Siren and Goshooter shared a completely DIFFERENT mold. Siren was the Hasbro release while Goshooter was the Takara release. Again, a version of Goshooter with Siren's colors was available later on in Japan, but once more, it was presumably supposed to be the same character with a new paint scheme, not the Hasbro character.
You could learn quite a bit with just a few minutes or research on tfwiki.net or a similar Transformers database.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1598917)
Posted by Razama on August 13th, 2014 @ 1:00am CDT
Posted by Razama on August 13th, 2014 @ 1:00am CDT
I foresee this guy ending up in the clearence bin of online import stores. The head sculpt fits but the body is meh..
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599023)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 13th, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT
The clip I keep showing you barely even has any dialogue in it, and ALL of it is English words anyway, so you don't even have to bother reading what little subtitles there are. I think you're man enough to survive a mere 30 seconds of someone speaking English.
Any other release of it has been all Hasbro.
Okay...
I'm gonna take a deep breath... and try to clarify all this.
*deep breath*
Now, in 1988, Hasbro continued the Transformers line with many more toys of new characters who were created after the cartoon had ended. These included:
For the Autobots, there were three Small Headmasters released:
Here is what each of them looked like:
Siren w/ Quig
Hosehead w/ Lug
Nightbeat w/ Muzzle
When Japan created their Super-God Masterforce cartoon, they took the Small Headmasters and reworked them into a slightly different concept called "Headmaster Juniors". A Headmaster Junior is similar to a regular Headmaster from a Western perspective, except that the larger robot body, referred to in this version as a "Transtector", is lifeless, being driven and fully controlled by its Headmaster, who is not a Nebulan or an adult, but a teenage human. The head attaches to the body and forms a bond with it, granting the body life via the human that forms its head, who essentially becomes a Transformer in this supernatural science fiction process.
The three Autobot Headmaster Juniors were all new characters in Japan, different from their Hasbro counterparts. The toys of Siren and Nightbeat were redecoed to go with these new identities, while Hosehead's toy remained unchanged deco-wise.
Goshooter (A.K.A. Shuta Go)
Cab (same toy as Hosehead)
Minerva
As a side note (and I only mention this because I know some are gonna point out that I didn't if I don't mention it), both the original Hasbro Siren and Nightbeat toys were later released in Japan as mail-away figures, who were now special toy versions of the Goshooter and Minerva characters, renamed "Goshooter Siren" and "Minerva Night Beat", respectively. But I digress.
Now, after all this, you may be wondering why the Japanese would use the Generations toy for Nightbeat as the base for a new toy of Goshooter. Would it not make more sense for them to redeco Nightbeat into Minerva? Or wouldn't it make more sense for there to first be a Generations Siren toy for them to make Goshooter from? Well, there is a very specific reason for their making a Goshooter out of Nightbeat instead of going with one of the other choices.
Back in the 1980's, when the folks who worked for Hasbro were making the commercials for the Hasbro toys and making the Marvel G1 comic books, for some unknown reason, the head designs for Nightbeat and Siren got swapped with each other somehow, and both the animators for the commercials and the artists for the comic books ended up drawing Siren with Nightbeat's toy face, and Nightbeat with Siren's toy face:
This was later corrected for Siren in later comic books created in the 21st Century by Dreamwave, Fun Publications, and IDW, but not for Nightbeat who, due to his becoming a very popular character, kept Siren's visor eyes in all of Nightbeat's future fiction to come, as the visored look had become an iconic look for Nightbeat. Thus, Generations Nightbeat has a visored face.
In Japan, however, Siren's and Nightbeat's counterparts, Goshooter and Minerva, did NOT have their head designs swapped, and so kept their respective toy head designs, with Goshooter having his toy's visored eyes.
Thus, the Japanese are using the visor-eyed Nightbeat toy to make a visor-eyed Goshooter toy, all thanks to Nightbeat's iconic head design having originally come from Siren, whom Goshooter was redecoed from.
If all that still doesn't help you to understand who this guy is and why this toy is being made, then I frankly don't know what else there is to do.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 13th, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT
We keep trying to tell you who this guy is, but I can't for the life of me figure out why you're not getting what we're saying. It comes off as just making you look bad, and that's what we're trying to avoid, yet you still seem to not understand no matter how many times we try to explain to you who this guy is. It's really frustrating.Rated X wrote:I know very little about the Japanese G1 cartoons. I would watch them, but I just cant get past those annoying subtitles and voices that all sound like the same actor.
The clip I keep showing you barely even has any dialogue in it, and ALL of it is English words anyway, so you don't even have to bother reading what little subtitles there are. I think you're man enough to survive a mere 30 seconds of someone speaking English.
This mold? This particular Generations mold? Once. Only one time has it ever been used in Japan. As this toy: Generations Bumblebee Goldbug.Rated X wrote:How many times was the mold used in Japan ?
Any other release of it has been all Hasbro.
Rated X wrote:Nightbeat
Minerva
Goshooter
Siren (never heard of him either)
Okay...
I'm gonna take a deep breath... and try to clarify all this.
*deep breath*
Now, in 1988, Hasbro continued the Transformers line with many more toys of new characters who were created after the cartoon had ended. These included:
- the Powermasters,
- the Large Pretenders,
- the Pretender Beasts,
- the Pretender Vehicles,
- the Small Headmasters,
- the Small Targetmasters,
- the Sparkabots,
- the Firecons,
- the Triggerbots,
- the Triggercons,
- the Seacons,
- the Autobot Six Changer known as Quickswitch
- the Powermaster Mercenary known as Doubledealer
- and new Cassettes for both Autobot and Decepticon alike
For the Autobots, there were three Small Headmasters released:
- Siren w/ Quig - a fire chief Mazda RX-7
- Hosehead w/ Lug - a fire truck
- Nightbeat w/ Muzzle - a blue and yellow Porche 959
Here is what each of them looked like:
Siren w/ Quig
Hosehead w/ Lug
Nightbeat w/ Muzzle
When Japan created their Super-God Masterforce cartoon, they took the Small Headmasters and reworked them into a slightly different concept called "Headmaster Juniors". A Headmaster Junior is similar to a regular Headmaster from a Western perspective, except that the larger robot body, referred to in this version as a "Transtector", is lifeless, being driven and fully controlled by its Headmaster, who is not a Nebulan or an adult, but a teenage human. The head attaches to the body and forms a bond with it, granting the body life via the human that forms its head, who essentially becomes a Transformer in this supernatural science fiction process.
The three Autobot Headmaster Juniors were all new characters in Japan, different from their Hasbro counterparts. The toys of Siren and Nightbeat were redecoed to go with these new identities, while Hosehead's toy remained unchanged deco-wise.
- Siren was changed into Goshooter, better known as Shuta Go, whose toy was now a police car
- Hosehead was changed into Cab, whose toy stayed as a fire truck
- Nightbeat was changed into Minerva, who was a GIRL and whose toy was now a Porche ambulance
Goshooter (A.K.A. Shuta Go)
Cab (same toy as Hosehead)
Minerva
As a side note (and I only mention this because I know some are gonna point out that I didn't if I don't mention it), both the original Hasbro Siren and Nightbeat toys were later released in Japan as mail-away figures, who were now special toy versions of the Goshooter and Minerva characters, renamed "Goshooter Siren" and "Minerva Night Beat", respectively. But I digress.
Now, after all this, you may be wondering why the Japanese would use the Generations toy for Nightbeat as the base for a new toy of Goshooter. Would it not make more sense for them to redeco Nightbeat into Minerva? Or wouldn't it make more sense for there to first be a Generations Siren toy for them to make Goshooter from? Well, there is a very specific reason for their making a Goshooter out of Nightbeat instead of going with one of the other choices.
Back in the 1980's, when the folks who worked for Hasbro were making the commercials for the Hasbro toys and making the Marvel G1 comic books, for some unknown reason, the head designs for Nightbeat and Siren got swapped with each other somehow, and both the animators for the commercials and the artists for the comic books ended up drawing Siren with Nightbeat's toy face, and Nightbeat with Siren's toy face:
This was later corrected for Siren in later comic books created in the 21st Century by Dreamwave, Fun Publications, and IDW, but not for Nightbeat who, due to his becoming a very popular character, kept Siren's visor eyes in all of Nightbeat's future fiction to come, as the visored look had become an iconic look for Nightbeat. Thus, Generations Nightbeat has a visored face.
In Japan, however, Siren's and Nightbeat's counterparts, Goshooter and Minerva, did NOT have their head designs swapped, and so kept their respective toy head designs, with Goshooter having his toy's visored eyes.
Thus, the Japanese are using the visor-eyed Nightbeat toy to make a visor-eyed Goshooter toy, all thanks to Nightbeat's iconic head design having originally come from Siren, whom Goshooter was redecoed from.
If all that still doesn't help you to understand who this guy is and why this toy is being made, then I frankly don't know what else there is to do.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599686)
Posted by Peridot on August 15th, 2014 @ 6:19pm CDT
Posted by Peridot on August 15th, 2014 @ 6:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In-depth explanation of a Japanese-exclusive repaint
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599786)
Posted by Overcracker on August 16th, 2014 @ 11:18am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on August 16th, 2014 @ 11:18am CDT
Sarblade deserves a 
for that extremely detailed and comprehensive overview of Headmasters, and Headmaster Jr history..
I for one learned things I did not know. Thanks for that Sarblade.
for that extremely detailed and comprehensive overview of Headmasters, and Headmaster Jr history..I for one learned things I did not know. Thanks for that Sarblade.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599811)
Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2014 @ 2:41pm CDT
Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2014 @ 2:41pm CDT
Gotta love Masterforce.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599819)
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 16th, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 16th, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT
When in doubt, go to Sabrblade.
Seriously, if you die, can I have your brain?
Seriously, if you die, can I have your brain?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599820)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2014 @ 3:07pm CDT
You and 63 others?Madeus Prime wrote:Seriously, if you die, can I have your brain?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1599867)
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 16th, 2014 @ 9:08pm CDT
Hm...competition....I need that brain.
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 16th, 2014 @ 9:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You and 63 others?Madeus Prime wrote:Seriously, if you die, can I have your brain?
Hm...competition....I need that brain.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1601826)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 25th, 2014 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on August 25th, 2014 @ 11:16am CDT
Artist Yuki Ohshima has posted an image (here) from "Train Wars 2," a comic appearing in Million Publishing's upcoming Transformers Generations 2014 volume 2 that is due out today. Check out the image we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1601902)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2014 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2014 @ 3:47pm CDT
Did we even get a glimpse of Part 1 before?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602264)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:12am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:12am CDT
Million Publishing Generations Shouki in Gun Mode - https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/504558971940634624/photo/1
Fellow user Powered Convoy took the following pics:
Scan from the manga, wielded by Goshooter
Done in toy form with Astrotrain and Bumblebee:
Fellow user Powered Convoy took the following pics:
Scan from the manga, wielded by Goshooter
Done in toy form with Astrotrain and Bumblebee:
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602267)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:29am CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:29am CDT
Seibertron.com member Sabrblade just dropped by and pointed us to TFYUKI's twitter page where he revealed that Million Publishing Generations Shouki has Gun Mode.
You can check out the image TFYUKI shared imbedded below.
Seibertron.com member Powered convoy also took a scan from the manga that shows off this gun mode being wielded by Goshooter
You can check out the image TFYUKI shared imbedded below.
Seibertron.com member Powered convoy also took a scan from the manga that shows off this gun mode being wielded by Goshooter
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602269)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:36am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:36am CDT
Let's add that to the list of "media-original modes":
- Sixshot Wingwolf Mode
- Overlord Super Jet Mode
- Black Zarak Dakatsu Mode
- Sixshot Wingwolf Mode
- Overlord Super Jet Mode
- Black Zarak Dakatsu Mode
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602270)
Posted by hinomars19 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:38am CDT
Posted by hinomars19 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:38am CDT
Basically...that means Astrotrain has a gun mode then?...
...
Why does he have to be in storage right now
I still need to get Henkei Astrotrain. I much prefer that to Hasbro's toy white one I have. It just felt like a pointless double dip on a mold/character...however, If I get Henkei 'anime' Astro now, then white Astro can be Metroplex's new partner!
I can also cry into my knees over how never in a million (publishing ) years will I own Shouki! Why'd they have to make him homage Thunder Arrow/Skystalker? Must they make me want things I can not afford?
...
Why does he have to be in storage right now
I still need to get Henkei Astrotrain. I much prefer that to Hasbro's toy white one I have. It just felt like a pointless double dip on a mold/character...however, If I get Henkei 'anime' Astro now, then white Astro can be Metroplex's new partner!
I can also cry into my knees over how never in a million (publishing
) years will I own Shouki! Why'd they have to make him homage Thunder Arrow/Skystalker? Must they make me want things I can not afford?
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602280)
Posted by gothsaurus on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:17am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:17am CDT
Aw, come on, JelZe GoldRabbit. You gotta post pics if you're going to reference such awesome-ness.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602281)
Posted by Rated X on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:20am CDT
Posted by Rated X on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:20am CDT
Well I guess if you want to call that a gun, then its a gun. I can make a robot bananna fan mode out of astrotrain too. Ive learned my lesson with both stepper and artfire. Wait one year and they will be on sale half price. The combination of crackhead prices and obscure Japan only characters always leaves millions publishing figures clearance bound.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602285)
Posted by gothsaurus on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:27am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:27am CDT
Same goes for you, Rated X. Pics of this robot-banana... or it never happened.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602288)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:42am CDT
As you wish:
Black Zarak Dakatsu Mode
Overloard Super Jet Mode
Sixshot will have to wait, but allow me to give you some trivia: his Brave series retool Shadowmaru from Brave Police J-Decker did not advertise the gun mode of the mold. However, the producers of the show did sneak it into a single episode:
Overgrown, Overcharged, Owned.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:42am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Aw, come on, JelZe GoldRabbit. You gotta post pics if you're going to reference such awesome-ness.
As you wish:
Black Zarak Dakatsu Mode
Overloard Super Jet Mode
Sixshot will have to wait, but allow me to give you some trivia: his Brave series retool Shadowmaru from Brave Police J-Decker did not advertise the gun mode of the mold. However, the producers of the show did sneak it into a single episode:
Overgrown, Overcharged, Owned.
Re: New Image of Million Publishing / Hero-X Exclusive GoShooter (1602289)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:44am CDT
Nice those pics are pretty sweet!
Rated X your turn I too would like to see this robot banana.
Posted by mooncake623 on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:44am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Aw, come on, JelZe GoldRabbit. You gotta post pics if you're going to reference such awesome-ness.
As you wish:
Nice those pics are pretty sweet!
Rated X your turn I too would like to see this robot banana.
