New Image of Armour mode Cog with Sideswipe from Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

mentre83 wrote:As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

Which one was guardminder again?

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

Which one was guardminder again?

Guardminder was the drone that came with Black Zarak. I actually meant Fasttrack, the original that came with Scorponok, sorry.

mentre83 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

Which one was guardminder again?

Guardminder was the drone that came with Black Zarak. I actually meant Fasttrack, the original that came with Scorponok, sorry.

No need to apologise it would be a good idea if hasbro did do this for all the similar bots, we know there's a rumoured sixgun on the way but that's it so far.

Now this is a line that has some possibilities. Nice battle armour option!

I really enjoyed the combiner wars and the Titans return imprint with the with the power of the primes a bit less so (loved the armours but the evolution gimmick wasn't that great). Thought they ran out of steam and was expecting something I might not be into. Unfortunately my wallet will be emptied once again - like the multi gun bot gimmick.. love the micromasters... and the designs seem to be pretty good even though I have satisfactory generations figures for most.

Curious to see if there'll be any focus on the micromaster teams interacting with the titan class figure... loved the city building aspects as a kid and was one of the parts of the Titan returns figures I thought was a bit half arsed. The 1980's ramps were better at connecting the sets together... (granted they were detachable and often lost)

frogbat wrote:Curious to see if there'll be any focus on the micromaster teams interacting with the titan class figure... loved the city building aspects as a kid and was one of the parts of the Titan returns figures I thought was a bit half arsed. The 1980's ramps were better at connecting the sets together... (granted they were detachable and often lost)

The city building gimmick of '80s Micromasters was truly a blessing: finally you could play into some "official" scenery. Big guys like Metroplex & co were just too few, and other toys' sizes too different, to permit something like that before.

I hope that we will see some old Micromaster bases in the future, otherwise they'll be just Armada Minicons all over again.

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

Which one was guardminder again?

Guardminder was the drone that came with Black Zarak. I actually meant Fasttrack, the original that came with Scorponok, sorry.

No need to apologise it would be a good idea if hasbro did do this for all the similar bots, we know there's a rumoured sixgun on the way but that's it so far.

Minor correction: The drone that came with BlackZarak was Black Roritchi. The Guardminders were a whole bunch of drones who used Fasttrack's design, with Black Roritchi's coloration used for their leader.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

mentre83 wrote:As I wrote before, I'm quite fond of the idea of Cog being more that a simple plastic accessory. My mind is already buzzing for possibilities for other similar characters, such as Brunt, Sixguns or Guardminder.

Which one was guardminder again?

Guardminder was the drone that came with Black Zarak. I actually meant Fasttrack, the original that came with Scorponok, sorry.

No need to apologise it would be a good idea if hasbro did do this for all the similar bots, we know there's a rumoured sixgun on the way but that's it so far.

Minor correction: The drone that came with BlackZarak was Black Roritchi. The Guardminders were a whole bunch of drones who used Fasttrack's design, with Black Roritchi's coloration used for their leader.

See? I was right to say sorry, after all
Thank you

I have to say this very neat. Sideswipe looks very good I can’t wait to pick him and Cog up.

mentre83 wrote:

frogbat wrote:Curious to see if there'll be any focus on the micromaster teams interacting with the titan class figure... loved the city building aspects as a kid and was one of the parts of the Titan returns figures I thought was a bit half arsed. The 1980's ramps were better at connecting the sets together... (granted they were detachable and often lost)

The city building gimmick of '80s Micromasters was truly a blessing: finally you could play into some "official" scenery. Big guys like Metroplex & co were just too few, and other toys' sizes too different, to permit something like that before.

I hope that we will see some old Micromaster bases in the future, otherwise they'll be just Armada Minicons all over again.

It would be so cool to get some Micromaster bases. I so pumped to see what Micromasters we get through out this line.

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:It would be so cool to get some Micromaster bases. I so pumped to see what Micromasters we get through out this line.

Well we do have a whole generations line filled with leaders who turned into bases to use.

Plus, Titans Return Blaster's base mode is an homage to the fire station micro master base with the colour, Danger sticker and ramps.

william-james88 wrote:

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:It would be so cool to get some Micromaster bases. I so pumped to see what Micromasters we get through out this line.

Well we do have a whole generations line filled with leaders who turned into bases to use.

Plus, Titans Return Blaster's base mode is an homage to the fire station micro master base with the colour, Danger sticker and ramps.

That’s ture I forgot about that. I didn’t know that about TR Blaster.

william-james88 wrote:

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:It would be so cool to get some Micromaster bases. I so pumped to see what Micromasters we get through out this line.

Well we do have a whole generations line filled with leaders who turned into bases to use.

Plus, Titans Return Blaster's base mode is an homage to the fire station micro master base with the colour, Danger sticker and ramps.

Sudden realization: what if we'll be getting Omega Supreme (as it's been hinted by some promotional images, if I'm not mistaken... again) as the Micromaster rocket base that came with Countdown?

Maybe even as a Guardian Robot/Omega Sentinel repaint..?

mentre83 wrote:Sudden realization: what if we'll be getting Omega Supreme (as it's been hinted by some promotional images, if I'm not mistaken... again) as the Micromaster rocket base that came with Countdown?

Maybe even as a Guardian Robot/Omega Sentinel repaint..?

You missed the conversation on that one, it was discussed a decent amount in this thread.

mordhelm wrote:

mentre83 wrote:Sudden realization: what if we'll be getting Omega Supreme (as it's been hinted by some promotional images, if I'm not mistaken... again) as the Micromaster rocket base that came with Countdown?

Maybe even as a Guardian Robot/Omega Sentinel repaint..?

You missed the conversation on that one, it was discussed a decent amount in this thread.

Probably so. I've been neglecting the forum for a few days, mea culpa.

Today's definitely not my day

Don't worry about it it's okay if you want to speculate about OS, we could get more hints at new York comic con next week via hidden messages on posters. That is where the first idea came from about linking os to the micromasters via Countdown. Though I'm still secretly counting on os being the Ark

ZeroWolf wrote:Don't worry about it it's okay if you want to speculate about OS, we could get more hints at new York comic con next week via hidden messages on posters. That is where the first idea came from about linking os to the micromasters via Countdown. Though I'm still secretly counting on os being the Ark

Actually an Animated-ish OS wouldn't be bad either. One of the biggest misses of that excellent toyline indeed.

I think this is pretty cool looking. I may end up buying two Cog’w so I can break one down into armor bits and keep the other in robot mode. I’m very excited to put Cog with the titans, Scamper, and IF’s Slammer and Sixgun.

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

While i do not mind an Omega Supreme trning into the arc, I would want that toy to be styled in the animated fashion to truly deliver on what fans want from that idea.

Skritz, the Voyager Megs and Starscream, and Leader Shockwave talk comes from listings found for them. No photos yet, but there are listings.

I don't think Leaders are getting downsized anymore than they already have been. Ultra Magnus might not be super tall, but he still has a lot of mass thanks to the trailer armor, the big black cannons, and his big-aft laser rifle.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thrilling 30 Jetfire is great and should not be revisited anytime soon. neither should Springer or Sandstorm or even Roadbuster. Whirl maybe, but I would still be satisfied with the T30 one.

As a cartoon fan, I say that T30 Jetfire, Springer, AND Sandstorm all need revisiting from a more G1 standpoint. T30 Jetfire is to a large degree, the cartoon Skyfire robot mode wearing the Macross Valkyrie jet mode on his back. We need one that has both the cartoon robot mode and the cartoon jet mode. T30 Springer and Sandstorm are a bit off from the G1 designs in both robot and altmode. Especially Sandstorm on the altmode front.

Flashwave wrote:Have we had a word on Sunstreaker? I want the pair or none at all

Keep calm. Bear in mind that a proper G1-mimicking Sunstreaker is NOT going to be a retool of Sideswipe. They have severely different transformation schemes in their original designs - Sunstreaker has his arms and head in his car mode's aft, his windshield and windows become his chest (windshield pointing down), and his front end telescopes out to become his feet. Sideswipe's head is under his hood, which becomes his chest, his arms are at his sides and have his door windows attached to them, his windshield ends up on his back, and his car aft telescopes out to become his legs.

mentre83 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Don't worry about it it's okay if you want to speculate about OS, we could get more hints at new York comic con next week via hidden messages on posters. That is where the first idea came from about linking os to the micromasters via Countdown. Though I'm still secretly counting on os being the Ark

Actually an Animated-ish OS wouldn't be bad either. One of the biggest misses of that excellent toyline indeed.

Yes, instead of Omega Supreme we got a stupid as hell jumbo-size Bumblebee. Because jumbo-size toys of the LITTLE yellow guy always sell well, right? OH WAIT.
However, I don't see that quite working with a line going for G1 looks. Animated OS has a distinctly different robot mode based around his turning into a single ship. And a Siege OS, even if it did turn into a single ship, would not have Animated's distinct art style.

Kyleor wrote:So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

Kyleor wrote:So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

For armor, Godbomber? I think?

For weapons, I think that would be Sixgun wouldn't it?

TrypticonCarne wrote:

Kyleor wrote:So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

My guess is technically SixGun, who was literally 6 guns from Metroplex. but thats arguable as to whether you count SixGun as a seperate entity or as a drone for Metroplex, and only Mtroplexused him I think

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:T30 Jetfire is to a large degree, the cartoon Skyfire robot mode wearing the Macross Valkyrie jet mode on his back.

I felt that was so inspired. Combining the toon and the toy in one delicious package, making this the most affordable macross toy ever. And he was just so cool. I loved the optional faces.

The first thing I thought when I saw the Sideswipe and Cog combination is "G2 themed repaint set when?"

william-james88 wrote: ... it could be that leader Shockwave would be a voyager Shockwave with armour pieces for an ultimate form.

OR
he stars as a Voyager/Deluxe Senator Shockwave that fits into or becomes evil Shocky!

gosh dang, that would be so cool!

So, dont hold your breath.

william-james88 wrote:As you can see, Shockwave is in the leader class though with both him and Magnus being in the Prime Wars contest for a leader class toy and with us knowing that all those toys were going to have an evolution gimmick (with Seige Magnus still sporting that), it could be that leader Shockwave would be a voyager Shockwave with armour pieces for an ultimate form.

so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

Z3ROhour wrote:

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so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

There are definitely designs for the remaining vote members, since Primal was revealed only a year after he won the ballot (and they definitely didn't rig the vote in favor of Primal), and the design process for a Transformer usually takes about 2 years. If I remember correctly, Warden said that he really liked the design that they made for Hound, and that Arcee would have been called Arcana Magnus or something like that.

I've theorized for a while that the Leaders of Shockwave and Magnus are remnants of the POTP designs. It doesn't really make sense to include Magnus and Shockwave in a vote for a new Leader figure, and then release completely different Leader versions of both of them in the wave right after the POTP would have come out.

Autobot N wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

fe53d7a5de6e957a9cb912c5ec8950d2.jpg

so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

There are definitely designs for the remaining vote members, since Primal was revealed only a year after he won the ballot

Even less than that, it was half a year between winning and being revealed.

william-james88 wrote:Even less than that, it was half a year between winning and being revealed.

Oh yeah, I forgot they showed a prototype at NYCC.

Doctor McGrath wrote:I think this is pretty cool looking. I may end up buying two Cog’w so I can break one down into armor bits and keep the other in robot mode.

I'm considering this too. It would help out some figures like Sideswipe who don't otherwise have a handheld gun if you do the G1 thing (and honestly, why wouldn't you?) and mount the rocket launder over his left shoulder.

To be fair I wouldn't mount the gun as a rocket launcher but I'm just awkward

Flashwave wrote:

TrypticonCarne wrote:

Kyleor wrote:So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

My guess is technically SixGun, who was literally 6 guns from Metroplex. but thats arguable as to whether you count SixGun as a seperate entity or as a drone for Metroplex, and only Mtroplexused him I think

Yes. Sixgun was the first. That's what he was designed as even if the fiction never realy made use of it. But he was designed as a number of weapons that could be wielded by and attached to Metroplex in various ways, and also lent to other figures - and in particular the combiners designed to interact with Metroplex.

More Siege listings:
Caliburst (
Smashdown (maybe this is the hammer BM that Warden hinted at...)
Pteraxadon (Seems like an axe to me)
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

Autobot N wrote:More Siege listings:
Caliburst
Smashdown
Pteraxadon
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Skritz wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

Autobot N wrote:More Siege listings:
Caliburst
Smashdown
Pteraxadon
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

Springer?! Soundwave?! Thundercracker?!

Skritz wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

Autobot N wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

And Perceptor. And apparently Scoop was a Wrecker at some point too, so yeah.

Smashdown and Pteraxadon are basically the only things that appeal to me in that new leak, other than further confirmation of Flywheels and Sixgun. None of the rest of this is remotely surprising.

Autobot N wrote:More Siege listings:
Caliburst (
Smashdown (maybe this is the hammer BM that Warden hinted at...)
Pteraxadon (Seems like an axe to me)
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

I'm saving my excitement until I see these figures in the plastic.

To be fair, the Wreckers rarely have a consistent roster across the board, what with their staple misfit nature.

So yeah: T30 and TR were the 'Wreckers Line'.

Also from the combination of Japanese toy bloggers and outlets Dorumen on Twitter and snakas, we have some more images from the 58th All Japan Hobby Model Show, this time focusing on the Takara Tomy Tranformers releases of the War for Cybertron: Siege line of toys.

Specifically, we get another look at Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, with Sideswipe and Cog, plus the Battle Masters SG-01 Firedrive and SG-02 Lionizer, and the SG-03 Micro Master Race Patrol (Roadhandler and Swindler). Some of this latter selection will apparently make it onto the market in February 2019, according to the labels on the display. Check it out below!

With NYCC just round the corner, fellow Seibertron user, Autobot N has shared with us listings that have been found on Walmart.com for new Siege figures!



Amongst these is a listing for a new Voyager Soundwave. Also listed is a new Voyager Springer, and confirmation of at least two of the three Seekers at Voyager class, with Starscream and Thundercracker being present. Please find the listings below:

Caliburst
Smashdown
Pteraxadon
Starscream
Soundwave
Springer
Thundercracker

There is also listings for previously rumoured figures:

Shockwave
Megatron
Flywheels
Sixgun

We'll hopefully be seeing these toys very soon, so till then stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Skritz wrote:So yeah: T30 and TR were the 'Wreckers Line'.

To me T30 really was the wreckers line since it was the first time since G1 that we finally got an origial mold for Springer, Roadbuster and Whirl, all 3 whom I associate the most with the team (along with Kup of course).

So are we just pretending this didn't happen?



Sure, there's a lot wrong with these, but it was an entire wave devoted to the Wreckers at retail (plus a club exclusive Ironfist) and did give us our first Impactor toy in 2013.

Emerje