New Galleries: WFC Siege Deluxe Class Spinister with Battle Masters Singe and Shrute

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also shouldn't this news post have been on the Earthrise thread, not this one?

While this makes sense, let’s be honest, we’re all reading both threads anyway. And truly, while it would be crazy busy, one War for Cybertron thread would probably do the trick - and save some page flipping.

emlit wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also shouldn't this news post have been on the Earthrise thread, not this one?

While this makes sense, let’s be honest, we’re all reading both threads anyway. And truly, while it would be crazy busy, one War for Cybertron thread would probably do the trick - and save some page flipping.

To be honest, 'twas an oops on my part.

It's in the right thread now, though!

So, I found a Barricade in the wild in a veritable sea of Mirages and an Impactor. Didnt give Impactor a second thought to grab Barrocade, but now kinda wishing I did even though I know I hate that Tank. Decided 'Cade needed his little buddy so when I got home I decided to switch torsos on Aimless and Blowpipe to create an all-grey Battle Master Frenzy.


Also, you can totally use the half-handles to mount the guns flush with the car hood instead of sticking up 10 feet.

Flashwave wrote:So, I found a Barricade in the wild in a veritable sea of Mirages and an Impactor. Didnt give Impactor a second thought to grab Barrocade, but now kinda wishing I did even though I know I hate that Tank. Decided 'Cade needed his little buddy so when I got home I decided to switch torsos on Aimless and Blowpipe to create an all-grey Battle Master Frenzy.

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Also, you can totally use the half-handles to mount the guns flush with the car hood instead of sticking up 10 feet.

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I like what you did to make Barricade have a Frenzy. It looks really good Though, now I want to pick up Barricade and the battlemasters needed just to have that awesome homage for the shelf... Sometimes I hate being part of a community that's so creative at finding fun ways to display figures

Sorry. The music in the video was annoying and could not watch finish watching it.

Messing around with Hound and Cromar is fun!
Plus a doggy. Because Hound is an animal lover.

Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

Wouldn't the Coneheads more likely be made from the Earthrise Seeker mold instead? The Siege Tetrajet mold has no room for the Coneheads' coneheads to fit into the little space where the non-coneheaded heads fold away.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

Wouldn't the Coneheads more likely be made from the Earthrise Seeker mold instead? The Siege Tetrajet mold has no room for the Coneheads' coneheads to fit into the little space where the non-coneheaded heads fold away.

Well, they could just go the partforming route. A cone hat that would serve as a tailfin for the vehicle mode, or something.
But most likely, some heavy remolding would be required.

Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Somewhere else. That is the beauty of retools.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Somewhere else. That is the beauty of retools.

Where else, though? Do you own the mold? The whole nose of the tetrajet is an integral component of the very structural integrity of the altmode kibble's placement in robot mode. Without the nose splitting in half and folding up to become the faux stabilizers, the altmode kibble can't securely lock into place in the robot mode.

Then simply turn the transformation around. Have the wings of the tetrajet substitute the folded nose pieces, with fake "wings" behind them for kibble. Just as Wingblade's design was just Thrust in cosplay, altering the structure of the figure is achievable while retaining cosmetic appearances. Just note the Coneheads were physically different to the standard seekers, beyond the titular aspect. Extra wings etc could easily be employed to get new results from the same mold.

I'm just going to say, I doubt the Coneheads are a safe enough bet to warrant 2 figures each because they're probably going to do Selects releases of them with the Earthrise mold, so I doubt we'd get them with the Tetrajet mold too. That said, I could somewhat see a remold to the backpack to facilitate the Coneheads' respective kibble

I think Coneheads are for Earthrise because the jet mode more easily allow to remold their wings and tailfin rather than come up with a Cybertronian design for them.

The cone springloads or slides into the head. Pick your mold, problem solved.

As much as I despise the "new" Earthrise mold, I agree that Coneheads are probably coming from it later next year, even though I would MUCH rather we get the rest of the Seekers from the Siege mold, and I'm just hoping that Ramjet makes the mold look good enough for me to get. With that in mind, the next uses I want to see from the Siege mold would be the Welcoming Committee, since they were only on Cybertron and therefore should have tetrajet alt modes like the Rainmakers. Another three pack with Sunstorm, Hotlink, and Bitstream would do the trick, or just Selects releases of them (as long as none of them are locked behind a dumb Red Card again, still annoyed about Redwing). I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

Stargrave wrote:The cone springloads or slides into the head. Pick your mold, problem solved.

Eh, this.
They could also make his head split, like for ROTF Thrust.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Then simply turn the transformation around. Have the wings of the tetrajet substitute the folded nose pieces, with fake "wings" behind them for kibble. Just as Wingblade's design was just Thrust in cosplay, altering the structure of the figure is achievable while retaining cosmetic appearances. Just note the Coneheads were physically different to the standard seekers, beyond the titular aspect. Extra wings etc could easily be employed to get new results from the same mold.

The only similarities Windblade even has with Thrust is having VTOL fans on the wings, and even then their different locations and sizes, and a cockpit chest I guess but most jet Transformers have them.

Their not even the same shade of red either, she has more differences from Thrust then similarities to him

It's just a stupid comparison, lots of characters in the franchise share a few similarities but whatever it's Windblade so obviously noting counts unlike someone like Slipstream who is so original in appearance because she's simply wearing a Starscream cosplay which is much different.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

But Nacelle looked like a normal Seeker in the cartoon:

Nemesis Primal wrote:the next uses I want to see from the Siege mold would be the Welcoming Committee, since they were only on Cybertron and therefore should have tetrajet alt modes like the Rainmakers. Another three pack with Sunstorm, Hotlink, and Bitstream would do the trick, or just Selects releases of them

I like this idea. Supported!

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

But Nacelle looked like a normal Seeker in the cartoon:

Given what we got with Rainmakers, I'd say a CHUG Nacelle would look like that.

not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

He's a small Voyager yes, but Spinister and the Ironhide mold are quite big for Deluxes. Also, Apeface's bulk is concentrated in his backpack and the back of his legs.

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

Wait, what? *goes back and looks at the comparison shot of Crosshairs, Astrotrain and Apeface* Ugh, I was so focused on Astrotrain that I didn't notice Apeface's size! Ah well, at least that means I might not need to reorganize the Decepticon half of the shelf to accommodate another Voyager figure

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

He's a small Voyager yes, but Spinister and the Ironhide mold are quite big for Deluxes. Also, Apeface's bulk is concentrated in his backpack and the back of his legs.

animated lockhead was big for a deluxe....and deluxe priced. We are now paying voyager prices for for deluxes and getting voyagers that are deluxes. Crazy. TR Blur was pretty much a standard sized deluxe to me. If anything its got my hopes up that they are charging deluxe prices for legends sized figures so that earthrise cliffjumper can go with the other mini bots.

blackeyedprime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

He's a small Voyager yes, but Spinister and the Ironhide mold are quite big for Deluxes. Also, Apeface's bulk is concentrated in his backpack and the back of his legs.

animated lockhead]

Lockhead Martin?

I'm more impressed by the banana box and little bananas, nice addition. Kidding aside I really like him. I dig how they got the 2 different faces on that headmaster, and I dont mind the look of the battle damage.

Oh, and when is Ratchet supposed to hit Walgreen's i the US

blackeyedprime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

He's a small Voyager yes, but Spinister and the Ironhide mold are quite big for Deluxes. Also, Apeface's bulk is concentrated in his backpack and the back of his legs.

animated lockhead was big for a deluxe....and deluxe priced. We are now paying voyager prices for for deluxes and getting voyagers that are deluxes. Crazy. TR Blur was pretty much a standard sized deluxe to me. If anything its got my hopes up that they are charging deluxe prices for legends sized figures so that earthrise cliffjumper can go with the other mini bots.

Lockdown And he was indeed taller, but not necessarily significantly heavier. Remember, Size Class is dictated by weight and plastic amount, not volume. Armada Tidal Wave is another example of being taller than his Size Class would suggest.

STngAR wrote:Oh, and when is Ratchet supposed to hit Walgreen's i the US

After the Holiday Shopping Season Reset, so closer to Black Friday.

Siege Apeface have a very weak jet mode. Really, a square with a nosecone and wings tacked on. Ugly and sad. However, it knock the ape AND bot mode out of the park, making the ugly jet mode an afterthought instead of a dealbreaker.

So, yeah, I'm definitely getting him.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Siege Apeface have a very weak jet mode. Really, a square with a nosecone and wings tacked on. Ugly and sad. However, it knock the ape AND bot mode out of the park, making the ugly jet mode an afterthought instead of a dealbreaker.

So, yeah, I'm definitely getting him.

The G1 jet mode for Apeface was essentially the same. A square box with wings and a nosecone on top. The gorilla mode is amazing compared to the very poorly designed (but man I still have nostalgic feelings for it) gorilla mode of the G1 figure.

My only complaint with this figure is the odd choice in color plastic for that off-white color of the G1 toy and Titans Return Titan Master. It comes out as a yellowish white which is a bummer. But other than that, he's a fun toy!

Here's hoping for a Snapdragon to complete the 1987 Headmasters cast at long last!

Seibertron wrote:The G1 jet mode for Apeface was essentially the same. A square box with wings and a nosecone on top.

Basically the same, yes, but much better executed on the G1. The nosecone is much bigger and the ape arms work as long air intakes, making the jet way more streamlined. However, the bot was G1 basic (obviously) and the gorilla was horrible.

The only triple changer that break the "must sacrifice a mode so that the other two look good" rule is G1 Snapdragon. The bot is great, the jet is perfect, and the dragon manage to be awesome with what they had to work with.
I'm really curious about how that basically "perfect" design will be updated?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Seibertron wrote:The G1 jet mode for Apeface was essentially the same. A square box with wings and a nosecone on top.

Basically the same, yes, but much better executed on the G1. The nosecone is much bigger and the ape arms work as long air intakes, making the jet way more streamlined. However, the bot was G1 basic (obviously) and the gorilla was horrible.

The only triple changer that break the "must sacrifice a mode so that the other two look good" rule is G1 Snapdragon. The bot is great, the jet is perfect, and the dragon manage to be awesome with what they had to work with.
I'm really curious about how that basically "perfect" design will be updated?

Isn't G1 Astrotrain the best example? I feel like all of the others suffer except for G1 Astrotrain.

Seibertron wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Seibertron wrote:The G1 jet mode for Apeface was essentially the same. A square box with wings and a nosecone on top.

Basically the same, yes, but much better executed on the G1. The nosecone is much bigger and the ape arms work as long air intakes, making the jet way more streamlined. However, the bot was G1 basic (obviously) and the gorilla was horrible.

The only triple changer that break the "must sacrifice a mode so that the other two look good" rule is G1 Snapdragon. The bot is great, the jet is perfect, and the dragon manage to be awesome with what they had to work with.
I'm really curious about how that basically "perfect" design will be updated?

Isn't G1 Astrotrain the best example? I feel like all of the others suffer except for G1 Astrotrain.

Astrotrain does too, the middle (wings to cockpit) of the shuttle doesn't exactly look the part when compared to the real deal, but we look past that because it was rendered as such in the cartoon I think. Blitzwing scores just as high with the jet cockpit visible in tank mode in both the toy and cartoon. The rest...

WFC Apeface is boxier and more stoutly proportioned in jet mode than G1, yes, but he looks more like a solid piece in Beast Mode instead of a jet folded in half me thinks. Robot Mode also looks better with the body measurements. Kinda funny: the G1 has the Beast Mode as the weakest, WFC has changed that to the Jet Mode.

He is smaller than G1 and MP Primal... Yikes.

Apeface has gone from homage to King Kong to Diddy Kong Also quite agree with -Kanrabat-, Snapdragon was always the superior of the two. I do genuinely look forward to a new version of him. They did neaten up Apeface's Beast Mode, which is all Snapdragon would need also. Since his jet mode was one of the best G1 Transformers jets.

If apeface had been a bit bigger they could have given him a functioning jet cockpit even if it was done like TR megatrons. Sadly he's going to be out of scale for me even if they do a new galvatron voyager they are probably not going to be the same size in robot mode. Still likely to pick apeface up until I can replace him (hopefully weijang up scales it).

*yeagh animated lockdown , was typing after being on the booze.

Seibertron wrote:Isn't G1 Astrotrain the best example? I feel like all of the others suffer except for G1 Astrotrain.

Oh yeah, can't believe I forgot him. I even own the toy too. The only flaws I can think of are his dinky arms in bot mode. But that's more nitpicking than anything else. There's also the shuttle thrusters in train mode, but it's way too crazy and awesome to be considered a real flaw.

STngAR wrote:I'm more impressed by the banana box and little bananas, nice addition. Kidding aside I really like him. I dig how they got the 2 different faces on that headmaster, and I dont mind the look of the battle damage.

"Bananas AGAIN? I hate bananas! Well - I guess we could make some banana BREAD. I'll get the aprons...."

I think my complaint with Apeface's jet mode comes from the cockpit. On the G1 figure, the cockpit is this massive feature dominating the entire jet. But in Siege, he suffers from Tiny Cockpit Syndrome like Springer, which means there is this huge, flat, wasted space that os just entirely jarring. The wings and tailfins are not super great, but I feel like if thTcockpit were bigger/closer to them it would all stitch together better. But thats pkay

i wished they retained the look of the original g1 jet mode
but the the modes are a lot better

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

STngAR wrote:Oh, and when is Ratchet supposed to hit Walgreen's i the US

After the Holiday Shopping Season Reset, so closer to Black Friday.

thanks for the info. Only thing that sucks is the closet Walgreens to me is 35 miles away in another state

Had a pretty nice Hometown find this weekend. Was planning to pass on retail Impactor, but in hand he looked good enough to get both versions.



Neither figure has disappointed. Impactor is a big deluxe figure, and his transformation is solid, involved, and the tank mode is wonderfully bulky. Robot mode is pretty beefy too, and he is a lot less hollow than he looked originally. He is a pretty dang good mold.

Mirage is also stellar. The transformation is incredibly intuitive and solid, the alt mode is really slick, and robot mode is clean and fantastic.

And he also has some really nice wheels. Look at this. half treaded, half slick, with some cool patterns between the 2. and the whole robot mode is super clean. He is pretty dang special

I couldn't agree with you more, D-Maximal_Primal. Mirage and Impactor are great figures. I picked them both up myself this weekend, and am VERY happy with them!

Mirage is a fantastic G1 update to the character. The proportions are right. He's got all the requisite accessories. The only thing really missing is his "26" racing number, which I'm sure ReproLabels will remedy in short order. The transformation is fun, I love how the back wheels tuck into the back of the torso to fill it out. The translucent blue plastic parts look great in both modes. All of the strong points easily outweigh the drawbacks, like the cheatsy robot mode chest and the arms stuck unceremoniously under the spoiler. Overall, he bridges the design gap between Siege and Earthrise very well, fitting in either aesthetic without much issue (thanks in part to his distinct lack of battle damage paint apps).

Impactor is very impressive. He's another big deluxe, like Ironhide and Ratchet. The transformation is intuitive and fun. He's got a "presence" posed on a shelf among other more well-known G1 characters. He just oozes "cool" without even trying. Looking at him in my display, I can't help but smile, and I have VERY little emotional connection to the character, as I never read the UK G1 comics. That's impressive to me that this toy can just draw me in completely on its own merits with no attachment to the fictional character. I really don't see many drawbacks to the figure, besides the hollow parts in the shins, which I hardly notice in person. Even the head sculpt is fine with me. It's supposed to be more strictly original G1 than IDW, so it makes sense that it emulates the 80's comic book design more than the contemporary one. Impactor is just a very pleasant surprise for me in this latter part of the Siege chapter of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

Mirage has one of the (if not thee) best weapons assortments in the deluxe class. Side by side with Sideswipe I’m like, just a rifle more and they’d have had him right. Mirage pulls off what Sideswipe, Red Alert, and even Hound could not: rifle, rocket launcher, rocket. Put a bow on it. Boom.

The faux parts and lack of numbering on his chest are admittedly accentuated by how huge his chest is. His chest is to Transformers what Bruce Campbell’s chin is to horror movies. Sweet Christmas.

Impactor tells a story just standing there. He’s got so much going and in loud colors but somehow, it all fits and blends. He even joins the shoulder canon club with the rest of the afore mentioned bots, but in such a unique way. He looks like a big miner who became a warrior and that’s exactly who he is.

So much awesome!

Thanks to the cards I was interested enough to learn who Detritus is. A G1 Hound repaint who’s a Junkion mercenary? Uh, yes please! Totally hadn’t heard of him before now I need him

I hope with the mostly Cybertronian designs the mercs will be a Siege offshoot like through exclusives or whatever. I dunno, I’m not as in love with Earthrise as I am with Siege. I’m a very loyal but very fickle lover. Earthrise has yet to woo me.

Optimized to be Weaponized


Best fit for Cog as feet in that configuration.

Those back wheels on Mirage?

That's the stuff, it looks so good.

Got my ship notification for the Amazon Fan Vote 3 pack. My power dashers should be complete tomorrow!

I wonder how long until ebay sees a glut of Holo Mirages...