New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor

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Ryan's at it again! Working long and hard to bring you the best and most in-dept picture reviews out there. This time Seibertron.com is proud to present his latest work with new galleries of Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor. Both are brand new molds on old favorites from Beast wars and Beast Machines.

Generations Rattrap

Generations Tankor

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Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581452)
Posted by DeceptiCobra on June 12th, 2014 @ 8:55am CDT

Whoa! Didn't know Tankor was that short!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581492)
Posted by Siger on June 12th, 2014 @ 10:45am CDT

I like how Tankor is smaller than Rattrap. He would have been so much easier to defeat in beast machines at that size. :lol:

This must be the legion size Tankor because Rattrap is smaller than Tankor's foot LOLZ:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581496)
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 12th, 2014 @ 11:02am CDT

They put all this love and effort into the Beast Wars gang --getting them in approximate scale, making them look awesome, designing Rattrap in a way that lets him stand up in rat mode-- but when they get to the Beast Machines guy it's like "whatevs, he's not orange-and-black this time, that's good enough."

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581507)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 12th, 2014 @ 11:43am CDT

Siger wrote:I like how Tankor is smaller than Rattrap. He would have been so much easier to defeat in beast machines at that size.
This must be the legion size Tankor because Rattrap is smaller than Tankor's foot LOLZ:

Picture an Autobot or Decepticon standing in that image along with everybody else.

We don't need a bigger Tankor. We need Cyberverse Maximals and Predacons, not giant Deluxes and Voyager (unless they make one for Optimal Optimus).

Noideaforaname wrote:They put all this love and effort into the Beast Wars gang --getting them in approximate scale, making them look awesome, designing Rattrap in a way that lets him stand up in rat mode-- but when they get to the Beast Machines guy it's like "whatevs, he's not orange-and-black this time, that's good enough."

Rattrap? Approximate scale? The toy comes all the way up to Dinobot's chest!

Compare:

This is one of those cases where the original mold wins the scale proportions.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581650)
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 12th, 2014 @ 6:14pm CDT

"Approximate." Rattrap's still the short one.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581653)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 12th, 2014 @ 6:20pm CDT

Noideaforaname wrote:"Approximate." Rattrap's still the short one.

Barely. He's taller than the Optimus Primal figure seen in the above pics.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581669)
Posted by Siger on June 12th, 2014 @ 7:16pm CDT

Well yeah I already thought Rattrap was way too big and Tankor way too small from the first reveal pics. The rat mode was almost as big as Voyager Rhinox's rhino mode. Man that's a big scary rat! You are right about not needing a voyager size Tankor, or in fact anymore Tankors. It's not an interesting or a good looking TF overall. Why not a better Cheetor or a transmetal one first? Why not a new Dinobot to go along with the new movie Dinowave?

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581754)
Posted by ~Nightphoenix~ on June 13th, 2014 @ 3:46am CDT

Can it be purchased from a local retail store (such as Wal-Mart) for a reasonable price? :-?

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581850)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 13th, 2014 @ 1:21pm CDT

Screaming_star91 wrote:Can it be purchased from a local retail store (such as Wal-Mart) for a reasonable price?

If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581881)
Posted by ~Nightphoenix~ on June 13th, 2014 @ 2:48pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Perfect (Dinobot & Rattrap were always my favorite BW's characters), that's just my price range. Thank you! :APPLAUSE:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581922)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 13th, 2014 @ 6:22pm CDT

Screaming_star91 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:If you think $10-15 (depending on where you live) is reasonable, yes.

Perfect (Dinobot & Rattrap were always my favorite BW's characters), that's just my price range. Thank you!

All you have to do now is FIND them since no store that isn't online seems to be getting these in.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1581975)
Posted by ~Nightphoenix~ on June 13th, 2014 @ 10:16pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote: All you have to do now is FIND them since no store that isn't online seems to be getting these in.

True, I'll just have to wait, It might take a few months but I refuse to pay anymore than $15.00. [-(

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1582012)
Posted by Seibertron on June 14th, 2014 @ 1:43am CDT

Siger wrote:Well yeah I already thought Rattrap was way too big and Tankor way too small from the first reveal pics. The rat mode was almost as big as Voyager Rhinox's rhino mode. Man that's a big scary rat! You are right about not needing a voyager size Tankor, or in fact anymore Tankors. It's not an interesting or a good looking TF overall. Why not a better Cheetor or a transmetal one first? Why not a new Dinobot to go along with the new movie Dinowave?

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1582017)
Posted by Seibertron on June 14th, 2014 @ 1:56am CDT

I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1582026)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 14th, 2014 @ 2:42am CDT

Seibertron wrote:I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

I genuinely would love a neo-classic Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1582086)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 14th, 2014 @ 8:31am CDT

Seibertron wrote:I feel bad that everyone is hating on Tankor. I really like the toy! I think it's a great update to a character that really hasn't had a cartoon accurate toy before. Sure I'd love a Voyager, Ultra or Leader Class scaled Tankor but that's just not realistic. In the meantime I'll take this fantastic update that is very poseable and lots of fun. Kudos to Hasbro for keeping the fires lit for this character. Any time they'd like to throw Beast Machines Thrust and Jetstorm some Generations love, I'll be right there to support them. Deluxe Class and all!

I think the robot mode is fantastically show-accurate.

The tank mode, however, is more show-accurate on the original Basic class Tank Drone figure (and moreso on its Beast Wars Returns Vehicon Tankor redeco).

Though, I understand why the tank mode is lacking the show-accuracy department, as it looks like they tried to replicate the cartoon model's transformation to tank mode without any of the cheating the CGI model uses, using only parts that appear in the toy's robot mode as they appear in its robot mode, instead of trying to simulate the slight morphing that his cartoon transformation undergoes when converting robot mode to tank mode. The result is a tank mode that appears to be made from the robot mode's parts arranged in how they ought to be for the tank mode, but since that isn't what the tank mode looked like in the cartoon (again, thanks to the slight morphing of the CGI model), the tank mode isn't as show-accurate as it attempted to be.

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Posted by Mindmaster on June 14th, 2014 @ 11:16am CDT

I really want to like Tankor, but his short stature really turns me off. Had he been a Voyager, I would've been all for it.

And yes, updates for Thrust and Jetstorm would be much appreciated.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588419)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 7th, 2014 @ 6:01am CDT

It was 2006 and we had just witnessed the end of Transformers Cybertron, the final piece of the long running Unicron Trilogy, and we were waiting for Michael Bay's first Transformers movie. We were all excited because we didn't know what the future held, but we were just bursting at the seams. Shortly after the shock and awe of the mention of the upcoming film, we all wondered "Wait, what filler line will take over in Cybertron's place?"

We lovingly call that "filler" line Transformers Classics.

Little did we know, it started a sweeping movement, a rebirth of what had come before. Before we could look to the future, Hasbro went back to the past and brought us these really nice updates of some of our favorite characters/figures. One of those updated characters was Optimus Prime, of course. Who knew eight years later that the Optimus mold would have so many uses? (10 as of right now!)

Which brings us to our newest galleries: Henkei Convoy Clear Version (AKA Crystal Convoy, the former is the official moniker, while the latter came from the fans. I think Crystal fits better) and United Ultra Magnus!

Click any of the images below to be taken to the full galleries:

Transformers United Ultra Magnus

Transformers Henkei Convoy Clear Version (Crystal Convoy)

Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588422)
Posted by Deadput on July 7th, 2014 @ 6:16am CDT

There are not enough repaints of this mold we need 50 more!!!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588438)
Posted by megatronus on July 7th, 2014 @ 7:51am CDT

I hope Cloud Prime goes on sale sometime soon. Would love to pick that version of regular red & blue OP up.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588445)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2014 @ 8:39am CDT

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:There are not enough repaints of this mold we need 50 more!!!

With the toy-accurate Evolution 2-Pack version coming soon, that's one down, 49 more to go. 8-}

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588476)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:15pm CDT

Your average truck stop.

Hopefully, this mold doesn't get as annoying as the Classics Starscream.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588477)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hopefully, this mold doesn't get as annoying as the Classics Starscream.

There's no such thing as "too many Seekers". :michaelbay:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588488)
Posted by megatronus on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:38pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hopefully, this mold doesn't get as annoying as the Classics Starscream.

There's no such thing as "too many Seekers".

I have 10 Seekers. I really think it's enough...

For the Classics mold, that is! Bring on more Seekers! :KREMZEEK:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588489)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:38pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hopefully, this mold doesn't get as annoying as the Classics Starscream.

There's no such thing as "too many Seekers".

That is very true, I love the seeker mold, and there should be enough for an army :twisted:

Plus with the fact that there is so many prime mold usages, I can get a hold of one

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588490)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:39pm CDT

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Your average truck stop.

Hopefully, this mold doesn't get as annoying as the Classics Starscream.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588491)
Posted by shajaki on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:43pm CDT

dems alot of convoys.

united magnus is bittersweet though. im assuming most people would be buying it for the city commander, but those white legs and silver thighs kinda ruin it. which sucks because hes much nicer than classics UM. s'ok with me though since i have both.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588494)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on July 7th, 2014 @ 12:52pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:There's no such thing as "too many Seekers".

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588496)
Posted by megatronus on July 7th, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT

shajaki wrote:dems alot of convoys.

united magnus is bittersweet though. im assuming most people would be buying it for the city commander, but those white legs and silver thighs kinda ruin it. which sucks because hes much nicer than classics UM. s'ok with me though since i have both.

I never had City Commander, and at this point, I wouldn't buy it. The set's somewhat outdated. I have United Magnus for the sole purpose of being White Magnus, and to serve as a nice counterpoint to United Black Optimus.

I'm surprised no one has come up with Nova/Nemesis winged backpacks for either of those guys.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588503)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 7th, 2014 @ 2:08pm CDT

Only have 4 of these myself, would have been 5 if I didn't sell my Classics when I got the Henkei.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588536)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 7th, 2014 @ 7:10pm CDT

I really love this mold. I'm very much looking forward to the Evolution 2-Pack coming soon. Needs me a Classics O.P.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588539)
Posted by durroth on July 7th, 2014 @ 7:27pm CDT

We've got a little ol' cooooonvoy rockin through the night...

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588643)
Posted by SJ21 on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:47am CDT

I love this mold. It's one of my favorites to display and play with. I will be picking up the AOE two pack of Prime when it comes out.

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Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 8th, 2014 @ 2:55pm CDT

The newest update to our ever expanding galleries takes the form of a couple Beast Wars favorites from Takara Tomy. You can see them here compared to their Hasbro counterparts.

TG-30 Waspinator is a Deluxe Class figure that features a darker metallic green than his Hasbro counterpart. That dark metallic green is highlighted by a metallic gold as opposed to Hasbro's yellow.

TG-31 Rinox is a Voyager Class figure that has a bronze colored hide when compared to the Hasbro figure.

Click on any of the images below to view the complete gallery.

Transformers Generations Rhinox

Transformers Generations Waspinator

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588782)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2014 @ 3:05pm CDT

Glad I got Takara's Rhinox over Hasbro's in-accurate gray sand version, shininess be darned.

But I got both Hasbro and Takara Waspinators with the intent of Frankensteining them into the perfect Waspinator.

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Posted by shajaki on July 8th, 2014 @ 3:11pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Glad I got Takara's Rhinox over Hasbro's in-accurate gray sand version, shininess be darned.

But I got both Hasbro and Takara Waspinators with the intent of Frankensteining them into the perfect Waspinator.

i still plan on getting both. are there pics somewhere of someone else piecing together a waspinator already? id like to see that. damn shame takara dropped the ball on these guys though. wonder what they were thinking? i reaaally hope someone does a predacon rhinox, exclusive or otherwise.

nice galleries as always

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588791)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 8th, 2014 @ 3:23pm CDT

I feel like I need something in between both versions. Hasbro's Rhinox is too light but Takara's is weirdly shiny; Hasbro's Waspinator has too many greens while Takara's has too few...

Incidentally, is Waspy getting a re-release here? I never saw him in stores, and I dimly recall there being mention of a restock, but I dunno if that was just for Skids or something.

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Posted by xyl360 on July 8th, 2014 @ 4:05pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:But I got both Hasbro and Takara Waspinators with the intent of Frankensteining them into the perfect Waspinator.

That's exactly what I did. I used the center bits from the Hasbro version and combined them with the Takara version. I then applied some yellow and black paint to it in the appropriate places to replace the gold and give him the extra details/finishing touches such as the black bit in his diamond crest thingy on his head. I also went over his robot head's eyes with a clear metallic blue to give it a more show-accurate color/appearance. I also added in the black stripes on his robot mode head's antennae. He's pretty much spot on perfect now.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588862)
Posted by Siger on July 8th, 2014 @ 5:57pm CDT

Hasbro wins IMO. I don't like SH*% colored Rhynox.

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Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:04pm CDT

Siger wrote:Hasbro wins IMO. I don't like SH*% colored Rhynox.

That's an oxymoron, since Takara's is clearly colored chocolate caramel while Hasbro's is more like diarrhea (apologies to any persons at or affiliated Hasbro offended by this comparison).

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1588868)
Posted by Seibertron on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:13pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Siger wrote:Hasbro wins IMO. I don't like SH*% colored Rhynox.
That's an oxymoron, since Takara's is clearly colored chocolate caramel while Hasbro's is more like diarrhea (apologies to any persons at or affiliated Hasbro offended by this comparison).

Hardly. I'll stick up for fans of the pro-Hasbro versions. The shiny weird brown color was a big turn off for me as well as the overly dark colors on Waspinator. I would have liked Hasbro's version to be a little bit darker in Rhino mode, but I certainly don't mind it's colors, especially since he's in robot mode most of the time anyways and not to mention that it more-or-less matches the same shade as the Hasbro version instead of coming up with an out-of-left-field color on Takara's versions.

For those of you defending Takara's version, I get that you want to defend them for what you perceive as the more show accurate coloration, but those aren't right either. Shiny Rhinox wasn't in any episode of Beast Wars that I watched!

Hopefully these two will get the proper slavish cartoon accurate color schemes at a later date so that both parties can be satisfied.

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Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:20pm CDT

"Shiny" isn't a color.

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Posted by Seibertron on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:22pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:"Shiny" isn't a color.

That is my point exactly regarding the Takara version of Rhinox specifically. Wrong color and it's shiny. Until we get a show accurate version from Takara or Hasbro, I'll take Hasbro's Rhinox any day.

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Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:25pm CDT

Even if it wasn't shiny, Takara's darker brown is at least closer to the show's brown than Hasbro's pale tan:

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Posted by megatronus on July 8th, 2014 @ 6:56pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Even if it wasn't shiny, Takara's darker brown is at least closer to the show's brown than Hasbro's pale tan

Pale tan? Hasbro's is much more a mottled grey than anything else. I just held my Hasbro Rhinox up to the screen, and it matches the pic color you just provided VERY well. So... you should let it go, I guess?

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Posted by mooncake623 on July 8th, 2014 @ 10:59pm CDT

megatronus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Even if it wasn't shiny, Takara's darker brown is at least closer to the show's brown than Hasbro's pale tan

Pale tan? Hasbro's is much more a mottled grey than anything else. I just held my Hasbro Rhinox up to the screen, and it matches the pic color you just provided VERY well. So... you should let it go, I guess?

I'm going to agree with Sabrblade. Takara's Rhinox colors are miles better, and it have tight knees.

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Posted by Siger on July 8th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Siger wrote:Hasbro wins IMO. I don't like SH*% colored Rhynox.
That's an oxymoron, since Takara's is clearly colored chocolate caramel while Hasbro's is more like diarrhea (apologies to any persons at or affiliated Hasbro offended by this comparison).

Hardly oxymoronic, I've never seen grey colored diarrhea. Show accurate or not is not my concern here, although watching clips on Youtube shows that he is sometimes pretty grey and sometimes pretty brown. You can blame that on the inconsistency of the show. The only thing better for me on Takara's version are the guns. Also agree with Megatronus that the shininess is a big turn off.

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Posted by shajaki on July 8th, 2014 @ 11:39pm CDT

not to mention it takes days of breeding to get a shiney rhinox. i went through 1153 eggs before i got mine.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Deluxe Rattrap and Tankor (1589534)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 10th, 2014 @ 3:17pm CDT

1 mold...2 heads...2 different sets of weapons...2 different Takara Tomy Transformers lines. This could be used to describe the next pair of subjects to be inducted into the galleries of Seibertron. Lets look at them a little more closely shall we?

Generations TG-12 Air Raid features a wildly different deco than the Hasbro offering including paint and plastic colors. This is accounted for by the fact that the Hasbro figure was originally intended to be Fireflight but changed at the last minute to Air Raid which makes Takara's offering the true Air Raid.

Arms Micron AM-29 Shockwave with Bido was the first use of this mold in Japan. Shockwave has added 5mm ports on his wings to accomodate his Arms Micron partner Bido which not only serves as Shockwave's weapon but also transforms into a rhinoceros beetle. It is unfortunate however that Bido only serves as a hand held weapon instead of Shockwave's signature built in weapon hand.

If you enjoy this mold be on the lookout for our upcoming Botcon 2014 galleries which features the newest use of this mold, Brimstone. Until then click on the images below to view the full Air Raid and Shockwave galleries.

Transformers Generations Air Raid