New Galleries: Combiner Wars Menasor and Superion

awesome
where were these bought?
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LOST Cybertronian wrote:It is time for another entry into the galleries of Seibertron. The big bad himself Megatron comes to you in high quality pictoral form. This is the G1 deco of Combiner Wars Leader Class Megatron inspired by his G1 animation model. Megatron comes with stickers to make him either a Decepticon or Autobot (see semi recent issues of the IDW comics for that story) as well as G1 details. You can also check out the retooled Armada version as well. As always, click the images below to see the full galleries.

Generations Combiner Wars Megatron

Really likingthe face sculpt! Just can't wait for May 2015!

maybe its combined truck mode with wide out spred open chest menasor head in looks small comapred to superion in combined

The main problems with both Menasor and Ultra Prime in comparison to Superion are the proportions of their torsos. Superion's torso used the brilliant move of turning Silverbolt upside-down to make Silverbolt's arms become Superion's thighs, and Silverbolt's legs form the upper torso. This made for a much better-proportioned torso overall with Superion's thighs being reasonably small but not too small and his upper chest being adequately shaped without being too bulky. And above all, Superion's waist is a good distance below his chest thanks to Superion's torso being (for lack of a better tern) tall enough.

Ultra Prime and Menasor, however, do not have the innovative luxuries that went into the design Superion's torso, as they both instead go the classic G1 toy route of having Optimus and Motormaster remain upright and have their lower legs become the combiner's thighs their arms form part of the combiner's upper chest. This results in a torso that has HUGE thighs formed by big chunky lower legs, a very WIDE upper chest with quite a distance between its shoulders, and the waist (piece) being directly under the chest instead of being further under it, making both Menasor and Ultra Prime have incredibly SQUAT torsos overall with no bellies.

I would've liked to have seen some static poses with the limbs being swapped. Curious to see what Breakdown and Off Road looked like as the arms. As well as seeing Dead End as a leg.

Just wondering... has anyone figured out why Breakdown's purple gun/foot/hand accessory uses a slightly duller purple than the other Stunticon accessories (and indeed his own thumb)? Seems like a strange choice, if it's deliberate.

Superion looks pretty awesome, but my favorite combiner of all time Menasor, looks so dreadful to me. It doesn't have a body.

Sabrblade wrote:The main problems with both Menasor and Ultra Prime in comparison to Superion are the proportions of their torsos. Superion's torso used the brilliant move of turning Silverbolt upside-down to make Silverbolt's arms become Superion's thighs, and Silverbolt's legs form the upper torso. This made for a much better-proportioned torso overall with Superion's thighs being reasonably small but not too small and his upper chest being adequately shaped without being too bulky. And above all, Superion's waist is a good distance below his chest thanks to Superion's torso being (for lack of a better tern) tall enough.

Ultra Prime and Menasor, however, do not have the innovative luxuries that went into the design Superion's torso, as they both instead go the classic G1 toy route of having Optimus and Motormaster remain upright and have their lower legs become the combiner's thighs their arms form part of the combiner's upper chest. This results in a torso that has HUGE thighs formed by big chunky lower legs, a very WIDE upper chest with quite a distance between its shoulders, and the waist (piece) being directly under the chest instead of being further under it, making both Menasor and Ultra Prime have incredibly SQUAT torsos overall with no bellies.

Menasor's and Ultra Prime's main problem lays in not being able to ecstatically extend the upper body. Superion achieves this by merging the legs with Silverbolt's body, but Menasor has no such luxury.

Menasor looks so much better when both car hods on the shins are flipped foward the same way. Im glad you have that option. But Menasor looks a whole lot better with the hips straight down instead of to the side like the instructions tell you to do. It makes him a little taller than Superion but whatever. I hope somebody makes a better head for Menasor with proper antennas instead of those silly horns. It looks like they came off the hood of Boss Hoggs Cadillac.

We will not make you wait long to enjoy the full wave 2 of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars - check out below the Seibertron.com galleries for Aerialbot Air Raid, awash in a sea of purple Stunticons: Off Road, Dead End and Breakdown! Each gallery shows the single figure in both their robot and vehicle mode, showcasing accessories and poseability, as well as group shots, comparisons with other figures from the line and the G1 predecessors for each - and of course, the Menasor and Superion combined forms for the Stunticon and Aerialbot team respectively, finally with all the limbs in the right place. Click on any image below to access the full galleries, and happy browsing.


Generations Combiner Wars Breakdown














Generations Combiner Wars Dead End










Generations Combiner Wars Offroad










Generations Combiner Wars Air Raid

I hate Menasor's head, hate it so much for some reason. I'm thinking Optimus with Stunticon limbs will look much better.

are the comics new or seen before?

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Superion looks pretty awesome, but my favorite combiner of all time Menasor, looks so dreadful to me. It doesn't have a body.

So true, this is a very disappointing figure/combiner. The proportions are just too off to look good. The upside is that the individual vehicles modes aren't too bad looking.

He really isn't that bad. The gallery is showing him the way hasbro intends... which doesn't do him any justice. Look around the web, watch some reviews, fans are figuring out ways to make him look waaay better. The head sculpt is awesome imho.

Breakdown feels very weak to me... It says a lot that TFSS Breakdown, a redeco of the by now ancient Sideswipe mold, has my favor over the CW Breakdown.

Offroad, on the other hand, looks well proportioned, solid, and I simply love face sculpt. Plus, the hood behind his head adds a good deal of character. The non-G1 team members are 2 for 2 so far.

I know the standard limb arrangements for these guys, but I'm honestly going to swap Dead End and Breakdown. Dead End's front end comes up just like Offroads, and that really works since it hides Motormaster's robot mode feet while forming nice "Knee-pads". A similar situation for Superion: Alpha Brave and Firefly make nice legs with no kibble really sticking out that far while Air Raid and Skydive have wings that stick out farther, and I like those protruding kibble bits better on the shoulders.

Also, so long as Megatron truly shows to have changed, I'm going to put those Autobot symbols on him. I like Autobot Megatron a lot. Roberts has done a great job with him.

Hasbro toy shop's official description of Dead End says he's part of Superion. Wtf?

Genericon #378 wrote:Hasbro toy shop's official description of Dead End says he's part of Superion. Wtf?

They copy and paste descriptions without editing them enough all the time.

FYI - Wave 2 is in stock again at HTS

No longer the odd-ones out! Combiner Wars Quickslinger and Brake-Neck are the latest figures to get the Seibertron.com gallery treatment. Hasbro has released, as we all know, these newly named versions of Aerialbot Slingshot and Stunticon Wildrider for the Generations Combiner Wars line, retooling and redecoing the previous plastic incarnations of, respectively, Firefly and Dead End: Quickslinger and Brake-Neck!

For those fans and collectors holding out for a G1 accurate Aerialbot and Stunticon team, the time is now, and your Superion and Menasor can join the battle against each other, leaving Alpha Bravo and Offroad as the new additions fighting from the sidelines - click on any image below to check out the full, new, high-definition, Seibertron,com galleries for the latest additions to the line!

Generations Combiner Wars Quickslinger




















Generations Combiner Wars Brake-neck

Nice, but I'm not such a purist that I want to buy them...

So are these guys out yet?

Even though I'm happy with Alpha Bravo and Offroad, I'll probably get these guys too.

RiddlerJ wrote:So are these guys out yet?

Even though I'm happy with Alpha Bravo and Offroad, I'll probably get these guys too.

According to Hasbro, these will be available around May 22nd.

May 22 – AERIALBOT QUICKSLINGER and STUNTICON BRAKE-NECK will be available exclusively through participating online retailers, such as Amazon.com, Walmart.com, Target.com, ToysRUs.com, Entertainment Earth, BigBadToyStore, Diamond Comics and Hasbro Toy Shop. With these two new figures, fans are finally able to complete their G1-accurate SUPERION and MENAOR figures! In addition to these all-new toys, several vendors will be running special promotions on TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS: COMBINER WARS figures, providing fans with an ideal way to complete their collections.

Are those the Japan exclusive CW stickers on some of these figures (mostly noticable on combined Menasor)?

necr0blivion wrote:Are those the Japan exclusive CW stickers on some of these figures (mostly noticable on combined Menasor)?

Those are the Asian exclusive CW stickers (not Japan). Not sure what I think of them yet. They're OK but a lot of similar tech detail that uses a lot of unimaginative circles and rectangle shapes.

Seibertron wrote:Those are the Asian exclusive CW stickers (not Japan). Not sure what I think of them yet. They're OK but a lot of similar tech detail that uses a lot of unimaginative circles and rectangle shapes.

Thanks for the clarification. I think what I like most about the stickers is that they provider more "pop" to the figures, at least color-wise. The shapes don't really bother me.

Sling?



Wild rider?

Well played, Hasbro.

Also:



You're replacing the wrong guy there!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sling?



Wild rider?

Well played, Hasbro.

Quickslinger's tosses in the word "shot" in the same sentence with "sling".

Nice. And glad to hear they'll be getting a release through a number of different channels, rather than just through HTS or whatever. Hopefully everyone who wants them can get them.

Using the Dead End mold for Wild Rider was a smart move.

Just wish Wave 2 (or the comic pack-in Wave 1) would appear in any way, shape, or form in my area...

Seibertron wrote:Quickslinger's tosses in the word "shot" in the same sentence with "sling".

Just rubbing it in for us old-timers. I'm still picking him up, to complete the team, I just wish they sold him alone.

By the way Ryan, does having two of the exact mold (head aside) for the two teams feel a bit... jarring, or would you prefer having four totally unique molds, even if it means "sacrificing" an old character?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Also:



You're replacing the wrong guy there!

Yeah, and the Superion diagram is a mess. They've been swapping names in the diagram for Firefly and Skydive from the start so now he has two Skydives for legs, one named Quickslinger and one named Firefly.

If anyone is curious about the comics, Brake-Neck comes with Combiner Wars #8 just like Dead End. Quickslinger comes with CW #3, likely the comic that Firefly will come with when those wave 1 comic packs are released. I think it would have been smarter to include Alpha Bravo and Offroad's respective comics instead.

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:By the way Ryan, does having two of the exact mold (head aside) for the two teams feel a bit... jarring, or would you prefer having four totally unique molds, even if it means "sacrificing" an old character?

I would prefer to have 4 unique limbs but will take Slingshot and Wildrider over Alpha Bravo and Offroad regardless of this. It doesn't seem as obvious on Menasor because Dead End should be an arm and Wildrider should be a leg. On Superion where Fireflight and Slingshot are both arms, it's a little more glaring that you've got two of the same vehicle mold. I think I'll make one of them a leg for Superion so that it doesn't seem so obvious in future galleries.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:By the way Ryan, does having two of the exact mold (head aside) for the two teams feel a bit... jarring, or would you prefer having four totally unique molds, even if it means "sacrificing" an old character?

For me personally I found that I didn't care since these molds were clearly made with Slingshot and Wildrider in mind no matter what they're called. Firefly's jet mode is much closer to Slingshot's than Fireflight's G1 figure and to be entirely honest I think Quickslinger turned to be better than Firefly because of it. The Dead End figure doesn't have a rear window molded in, a fake one is painted in while the original G1 Wildrider didn't have a rear window either so they definitely had that in mind even if it does look funny.

What I find jarring is that the Aerialbots are painstakingly G1 in all of their modes (except for being backwards as legs) while the Stunticons are all entirely unique designs we've never seen before. It's a strange design choice and I think the Aerialbots turned out better for sticking to their roots.

Emerje

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:By the way Ryan, does having two of the exact mold (head aside) for the two teams feel a bit... jarring, or would you prefer having four totally unique molds, even if it means "sacrificing" an old character?

I would prefer to have 4 unique limbs but will take Slingshot and Wildrider over Alpha Bravo and Offroad regardless of this. It doesn't seem as obvious on Menasor because Dead End should be an arm and Wildrider should be a leg. On Superion where Fireflight and Slingshot are both arms, it's a little more glaring that you've got two of the same vehicle mold. I think I'll make one of them a leg for Superion so that it doesn't seem so obvious in future galleries.

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Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Also:



You're replacing the wrong guy there!

Yeah, and the Superion diagram is a mess. They've been swapping names in the diagram for Firefly and Skydive from the start so now he has two Skydives for legs, one named Quickslinger and one named Firefly.

If anyone is curious about the comics, Brake-Neck comes with Combiner Wars #8 just like Dead End. Quickslinger comes with CW #3, likely the comic that Firefly will come with when those wave 1 comic packs are released. I think it would have been smarter to include Alpha Bravo and Offroad's respective comics instead.

Emerje

I've checked Air Raid's and Skydive's card backs and wouldn't you know it, the schematic has Firefly as an arm too. Odd.

Given that Firefly and Dead End were the "parent molds" so to speak, it would make sense for Quicksling and Brake-Neck to include their comics. I agree though that Alpha Bravo's and Offroad's comics would be better, as to avoid collecting double issues.

Emerje wrote:
What I find jarring is that the Aerialbots are painstakingly G1 in all of their modes (except for being backwards as legs) while the Stunticons are all entirely unique designs we've never seen before. It's a strange design choice and I think the Aerialbots turned out better for sticking to their roots.

Emerje

I feel like Aerialbots are "easier" engineering-wise, since the wings, nosecone and tail become kibble, so really they just need to turn a long box into a tall boxy robot. Also I'd argue that with jets it's easier to get away with trademark dodging. The Stunticons however suffer from having wildly edited G1 character models and actual proper car modes (albeit trademark-dodging ones) so choices had to be made.

nice combos

Our latest Seibertron.com figure gallery features an unexpected repurposing of a previous wave figure: feast your eyes below on Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Voyager Cyclonus! The figure is a fairly significant remold of the Silverbolt toy, featuring a new head, torso, paint job, wings - and an entirely new combiner head, ready to form an almost Decepticon leader - Galvatronus, nemesis to fan-built Victorion and possessor of mind-bending powers. Check all three modes out in the images below, and click on any of them for the full gallery.

Generations Combiner Wars Cyclonus
















Generations Combiner Wars Galvatronus

I don't care what anyone says. I love this Cyclonus, and I need one ASAP.

I can't help but wonder how TakaraTomy will repurpose this figure... No doubt they'll use the Galvatron II persona, but what of poor Cyclonus?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I can't help but wonder how TakaraTomy will repurpose this figure... No doubt they'll use the Galvatron II persona, but what of poor Cyclonus?

Take a cue from the Club and use Ferak?

Since Galvatron II uses the toy's pale deco, they could make Ferak the same pale color.

Nope. Don't like it. The only good thing is the jet mode, and only the top of it.

Just wanted to point out that I used a silver sharpie to color his "ears" silver like past Cyclonus figures. Looks much better in my opinion. Here's hoping Takara gives Cyclonus this extra paint app as well.

Seibertron wrote:Just wanted to point out that I used a silver sharpie to color his "ears" silver like past Cyclonus figures. Looks much better in my opinion. Here's hoping Takara gives Cyclonus this extra paint app as well.

No doubt any TakaraTomy release of this figure will be an exclusive redeco like Grand Scourge.

Victorion? LOL...........

LAME.

I am actually glad because I need a break from Hasbro sucking my wallet clean with the first three real combiners. Just two to go, Bruticus and Devastator, and they can put this line in the can for all I care. If I thought we would get Computron or Predaking, then I would be interested. But, instead we get two LAME combiners. Once of which was created for political purposes rather than to make the fans happy. And they claim the fans "created" it. The sad thing is some of you believe it.....

IF Takara releases him. These days it ain't guaranteed.

shockblast2 wrote:Victorion? LOL...........

LAME.

I am actually glad because I need a break from Hasbro sucking my wallet clean with the first three real combiners. Just two to go, Bruticus and Devastator, and they can put this line in the can for all I care. If I thought we would get Computron or Predaking, then I would be interested. But, instead we get two LAME combiners. Once of which was created for political purposes rather than to make the fans happy. And they claim the fans "created" it. The sad thing is some of you believe it.....

That's not Victorion this is Galvatronus.



Computron's components are kinda dead in the comics except for Scattorshot and Strafe so I think their waiting plus Rook looks to be a nosecone remold and Hasbro probably does not want to confuse kids with the Predacons right now since it hasn't been too long since Beast Hunters ended.




What is sad though is you actually believing that the voting was rigged that and insulting the rest of us.




Seriously all your posts seem to be about complaining or call bullcrap on something.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Victorion? LOL...........

LAME.

I am actually glad because I need a break from Hasbro sucking my wallet clean with the first three real combiners. Just two to go, Bruticus and Devastator, and they can put this line in the can for all I care. If I thought we would get Computron or Predaking, then I would be interested. But, instead we get two LAME combiners. Once of which was created for political purposes rather than to make the fans happy. And they claim the fans "created" it. The sad thing is some of you believe it.....

That's not Victorion this is Galvatronus.

Victorion will be Galvatronus' rival.