New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal
Thursday, June 7th, 2018 6:33PM CDT
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Along with the original images we covered with the reveal, Takara Tomy has also put up the promotional banner for the big bossbot of the Maximals, in his Beast Machines form, and three of the voice clips he will come with in final product - which you can listen to here - starting, in Japanese: '(To) all good children, it's Convoy!', 'Good! If you want to survive...' and 'Okay! Today is rap!...' - or something to that effect. If you're good at transcribing Japanese audio, do let us know!
The other update comes from Tokyo Toy Show 2018, as we have some of the display images from the Takara booth on the floor, mirrored below alongside the other Convoys from across the 35 years of the character. Take a look, and let us know what you think!
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2018 @ 8:21pm CDT
The second says something about the Oracle.
And the third... sounds a lot like all the "Yvonco" chanting that Rattrap and others did during the opening sequence of episode 14 (season 2, episode 1) in its Japanese dub.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 8th, 2018 @ 10:43am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:It looks great, but sadly I can't afford it as usual. I also much prefer Hasbro's Platinum version. I don't know why, but that Primal in Prime colors looks perfect to me
I also have it and I LOVE it. Plus you can get it for very cheap if you know where to look.
Posted by Emerje on June 8th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by Lucky Logician on June 8th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
Now if they took Blast Punch Optimus Primal and gave him an accurate color scheme, lots of people would be happy. Especially since he would be more in scale with the other BM toys. They could charge $50 and plenty of people across the world would buy that. They could probably even charge $70 and still get money from a good amount of people.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 5:59pm CDT
What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:10pm CDT
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:20pm CDT
Including our illustrious Site Owner?-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:23pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:32pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!
Now that's something you don't hear every day...
Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:41pm CDT
At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!
Now that's something you don't hear every day...
Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.
It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.
Posted by Emerje on June 8th, 2018 @ 10:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.-Kanrabat- wrote:What the guy above said.
The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!
Now that's something you don't hear every day...
Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.
It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.
It's really Hasbro's fault. They told Mainframe to split their season 4 budget to also make an Action Man cartoon forcing Mainframe to start Beast Wars over as Beast Machines with easier to animate CG, transformation trickery, and very few textures. If Mainframe had their entire budget they might have been able to do something closer to the Draxhall Jump designs, for better or worse.
And yes, I would buy Blast Punch Primal in show colors in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the new Encore line seems to be designed to use existing molds as a substitute for MPs that will never happen so bigger is better. I'm sure we'll be getting a Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus Prime announcement sooner or later.
Emerje
Posted by Seibertron on June 9th, 2018 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2018 @ 8:28am CDT
Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Posted by shajaki on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something originalSabrblade wrote:Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Posted by william-james88 on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
shajaki wrote:It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?).
Yes and no. Its the same scenario as Masterpiece Acid Storm. Released by Takara but the same as Hasbro version in the same box.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme were likewise never released by Takara prior to their Encore releases, so they have set a precedent for Returns Convoy to get vintage Takara BWR packaging like they got vintage Takara G1 packaging.shajaki wrote:It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something originalSabrblade wrote:Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Posted by shajaki on June 9th, 2018 @ 2:05pm CDT
I'll be really pleased if he gets a box in the BWR style.
Posted by fenrir72 on June 10th, 2018 @ 11:56pm CDT
No likes!Even after a week!
Posted by shajaki on June 23rd, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 17th, 2018 @ 11:11am CST
While the review itself is non-English, it does show the differences this redeco has to the original and its sound phrases. We have embedded the video below for your convenience.
Does this review change your mind about this figure? What would you like to see as an Encore release next? More show accurate redecos? Or more items like the forthcoming Unicron of Light? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 17th, 2018 @ 11:49am CST
And goofy new voice clips in reflection of the Beast Wars Returns Japanese dub, in particular referencing the goofy chanting that was spoken over the theme song in Episode 14.
Posted by PerfectVision on December 17th, 2018 @ 1:55pm CST