New Details about upcoming Takara Legends products -- Slugslinger, Bumblebee & Spike, Octane
Thursday, July 6th, 2017 8:18AM CDT
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Naturally all of them have new decos and as expected Slugslinger has a new-mold Targetmaster much like Misfire, Hot Rod, Doublecross and Kup; but of particular note are that the Headmaster for Octane and the Spike Headmaster that comes with Bumblebee are listed as new. Whether this just means new faceplates like with Legends Chromedome or completely new molds like with Legends Sixshot is currently unknown; but nevertheless, tell us what you think in the forums!
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Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2017 @ 8:21am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Kurona wrote:Man, I would've loved a target reticle head for Perceptor; but I should've known it wasn't happening
There's one on Shapeways but it requires painting it yourself.
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https://www.shapeways.com/product/JNS2R ... ans-return
Sweeet, was wondering when this'd happen. This'll make Perceptor perfect
Cyberpath wrote:Kurona wrote:Surprised at the new head for Octane. Isn't the one he has already in the Hasbro version accurate to all his appearances; original toy, cartoon and comics?
Hmmm, maybe it means that he'll be packed with another Titan Master like the smaller figures have so far.
That might make sense -- though in that case, who would it be? I can't think of any significant human, nebulon or otherwise tiny partner of Octane in the cartoon unless they're making Sandstorm.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 6th, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
Kurona wrote:That might make sense -- though in that case, who would it be? I can't think of any significant human, nebulon or otherwise tiny partner of Octane in the cartoon unless they're making Sandstorm.
The head of Starscream's ghost? Or maybe Skuxxoid?
Posted by Evil Eye on July 6th, 2017 @ 9:11am CDT
Kurona wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Kurona wrote:Man, I would've loved a target reticle head for Perceptor; but I should've known it wasn't happening
There's one on Shapeways but it requires painting it yourself.
[img]snip[/img]
https://www.shapeways.com/product/JNS2R ... ans-return
Sweeet, was wondering when this'd happen. This'll make Perceptor perfect
A word of advice: Don't cheap out on the material. Order in Frosted Ultra/Extreme Detail or Black High-Definition Acrylate if possible, White Strong and Flexible does not hold detail very well. And given it's a non-load-bearing detail piece, the increased strength of WSF is useless.
Posted by ScottyP on July 6th, 2017 @ 9:22am CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on July 6th, 2017 @ 9:32am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I can't be the only one assuming the Spike Titan Master is going to turn into Arcee's head, right? Were I not on mobile in between meetings I'd probably look at earlier replies and find this in a heartbeat, so it's OK to make fun of me if someone mentioned this like four posts ago
Shouldn't that be Daniel as Arcee's head? I think the supposition was Spike would turn into Cerebro's head so Japan could get the same Titan Master the US got with Fort Max. But, I do not recall seeing anything official for confirmation on this.
Posted by Flashwave on July 6th, 2017 @ 11:08am CDT
Bumble with Excel Suit and Spike
After 30 years the Autobots have managed to weaponize the most terrifying thing in Human History...
Microsoft
"Foolish Autobot, dont you know Words can never hurt me?"
"Thats why we're gonna destroy you with numbers!"
"Multiply THIS, Megatron!"
Posted by AgentK2 on July 6th, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on July 6th, 2017 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 6th, 2017 @ 1:09pm CDT
And Mainframe out of Perceptor? GENIUS!
Posted by ScottyP on July 6th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
You're right. We can officially mark this down as the 98th time I've gotten them mixed up this year.Agamemnon wrote:ScottyP wrote:I can't be the only one assuming the Spike Titan Master is going to turn into Arcee's head, right? Were I not on mobile in between meetings I'd probably look at earlier replies and find this in a heartbeat, so it's OK to make fun of me if someone mentioned this like four posts ago
Shouldn't that be Daniel as Arcee's head? I think the supposition was Spike would turn into Cerebro's head so Japan could get the same Titan Master the US got with Fort Max. But, I do not recall seeing anything official for confirmation on this.
Posted by Agamemnon on July 6th, 2017 @ 3:04pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Bumble with Excel Suit and Spike
After 30 years the Autobots have managed to weaponize the most terrifying thing in Human History...
Microsoft
"Foolish Autobot, dont you know Words can never hurt me?"
"Thats why we're gonna destroy you with numbers!"
"Multiply THIS, Megatron!"
Love it! (Ags drinks the MS Kool-Aid, just so ya know... )
ScottyP wrote:You're right. We can officially mark this down as the 98th time I've gotten them mixed up this year.Agamemnon wrote:ScottyP wrote:I can't be the only one assuming the Spike Titan Master is going to turn into Arcee's head, right? Were I not on mobile in between meetings I'd probably look at earlier replies and find this in a heartbeat, so it's OK to make fun of me if someone mentioned this like four posts ago
Shouldn't that be Daniel as Arcee's head? I think the supposition was Spike would turn into Cerebro's head so Japan could get the same Titan Master the US got with Fort Max. But, I do not recall seeing anything official for confirmation on this.
No worries. I'm the last one to harp on this sort of thing.
(But, related to that, I hope we do get a Daniel and Arcee. I think we had a rumor at one point. It would be cool to get the Spike Exo-suit with Arcee face for it...)
Posted by fenrir72 on July 6th, 2017 @ 7:23pm CDT
Spike= CEREBROS aka The Re-Birth version
Posted by Agamemnon on July 6th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Bumble and Spike
Spike= CEREBROS aka The Re-Birth version
Yah, I think we got that squared away above.
Posted by Albatross250 on July 7th, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 7th, 2017 @ 11:54pm CDT
It's kind of sad, but while everyone's getting all excited over the Targetmasters and Legends Sixshot and stuff like that, the thing I'm looking forward to most an underside shot of Roddy's car mode to use as a guide for modding my TR Hot Rod.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2017 @ 12:09am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 8th, 2017 @ 12:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe Takara just doesn't like the look of the Hasbro face and wants to make a new one, like what they did with Kup.
Here's the thing tho: there's nothing inherently wrong with it from what I can see.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 8th, 2017 @ 12:42am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 8th, 2017 @ 6:21am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:I wonder if the LG Sixshot would include Daniel Witwicky as a headmaster/Excel Suit as an additional set.
Unfortunately, we already know the full details of LG Sixshot and he doesn't come with anyone else
Posted by Sabrblade on July 8th, 2017 @ 9:52am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Maybe Takara just doesn't like the look of the Hasbro face and wants to make a new one, like what they did with Kup.
Here's the thing tho: there's nothing inherently wrong with it from what I can see.
What I mean is, Takara might find the Hasbro face to be a little unflattering, and too stern-looking to match the more laidback and easygoing personality of Cartoon Octane, and so might want to make new face that looks more chill than this Grumpy Gus.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, with Kup the redesigned noggin was to better match the cartoon.
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 8th, 2017 @ 11:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Maybe Takara just doesn't like the look of the Hasbro face and wants to make a new one, like what they did with Kup.
Here's the thing tho: there's nothing inherently wrong with it from what I can see.What I mean is, Takara might find the Hasbro face to be a little unflattering, and too stern-looking to match the more laidback and easygoing personality of Cartoon Octane, and so might want to make new face that looks more chill than this Grumpy Gus.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yeah, with Kup the redesigned noggin was to better match the cartoon.
I do admit every time I see Octane's face, I imagine him saying "Come on Trypty baby!". Hasbro may be a bit to stern for that, haha. Octane is one of my top favs though so I will get Hasbro one and maybe sell it to get Takara when it comes out.
Posted by Kurona on July 8th, 2017 @ 11:28am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 9th, 2017 @ 6:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT
Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 9th, 2017 @ 11:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:13am CDT
Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:17am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:37am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:38am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.
Right, because Galvatron was a headmaster in G1 too
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:21am CDT
He is now.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.
Right, because Galvatron was a headmaster in G1 too
Posted by Stuartmaximus on July 10th, 2017 @ 11:26am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Once again, I'll defend Titans Return Quickswitch. Yes, he would be better if he were a new mold, or more extensively remolded to give him his classic G1 modes, or even just moderately remolded, like keeping the new helmet that we saw in the original mock-ups or retooling the wolf head to look more like a puma. But what we have is pretty nice it its own right. The paintwork on the figure is EXTENSIVE. There's a lot of appreciated effort just there. Plus, it doesn't take much to mess around with the "official" transformation for robot mode and make a few critical alternations to his sillouhette to differentiate him more from Six Shot on your shelves. I fold the back wings down to hide them, keep the shoulder/pectoral wings tucked away, and turn the shoulder pylons around to make the wheels face the backwards. The result looks VERY much like G1 Quickswitch in robot mode, if he were redesigned to look less awkwardly chunky. As a bonus to anyone getting Takara's Six Shot release, that will make Quickswitch's helmet more distinct looking as well since Takara opted to retool their Six Shot's helmet. TR Quickswitch is more than meets the eye.
Hmm.....dunno
because they're just reusing the same alt modes...means that this Quickswitch doesn't have his hydrofoil(hovercraft) mode
which made that destinctive to Quickswitch & not Sixshot...but....maybe...just maybe...someone'll be able to fanmode one who knows?
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 10th, 2017 @ 11:30am CDT
yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 11:33am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Sixknight would require far, far, far more retooling than Greatshot.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:41pm CDT
how so if they use the TR quickswitch Figure I don't see much more retooling neededKurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Sixknight would require far, far, far more retooling than Greatshot.
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:how so if they use the TR quickswitch Figure I don't see much more retooling neededKurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Sixknight would require far, far, far more retooling than Greatshot.
Because TR Quickswitch doesn't look like Quickswitch or Sixknight. If we're going the route of ignoring the molding changes they'd need, then by this logic they could simply do up Sixshot in Greatshot colours with no molding differences -- and that would be more accurate to Greatshot than TR Quickswitch is to Quickswitch.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 10th, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:how so if they use the TR quickswitch Figure I don't see much more retooling neededKurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Sixknight would require far, far, far more retooling than Greatshot.
Because TR Quickswitch doesn't look like Quickswitch or Sixknight. If we're going the route of ignoring the molding changes they'd need, then by this logic they could simply do up Sixshot in Greatshot colours with no molding differences -- and that would be more accurate to Greatshot than TR Quickswitch is to Quickswitch.
Yeah but none of these figures from hasbro or takara are 100 percent toy or show accurate anyway sure some look closer than others and some are way off why would this be any different
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2017 @ 3:40pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:09pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:You know all this talk while we all know the truth deep down: Six Knight will probably not be released anyway.
Your right! probably not gonna happen
But ya never know
Have we been surprised before?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:16pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:william-james88 wrote:You know all this talk while we all know the truth deep down: Six Knight will probably not be released anyway.
Your right! probably not gonna happen
But ya never know
Have we been surprised before?
We have been, admittedly. Like recently, Ramhorn is a straight retool of Shuffler, so the chances of a TakaraTomy release was slim, or we thought. Lo and behold Legends Clouder:
Works surprisingly well, especially with the rhino head decoed as the vulture.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 11:26pm CDT
Takara at least tries for 100% with what they have to work with, though, even if they can only achieve 90% or even 80%. With the Sixshot mold, though, they wouldn't even bother trying to make it into Sixknight since Sixshot and Sixknight have completely different silhouettes in every regard. A Sixshot wearing Sixknight's colors does not make a proper Sixknight, it simply makes a Sixshot wearing Sixknight's colors, just like how TR Quickswitch just resembles a Sixshot wearing Quickswitch's colors (even if they are very pretty colors) instead of actually looking like Quickswitch.Ultra Markus wrote:Kurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:how so if they use the TR quickswitch Figure I don't see much more retooling neededKurona wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:yeah but takara could just do some minor retool to make sixnight more accurate rather than doing extensive retools for greatshotSabrblade wrote:Considering how poor a representation of Quickswitch that TR Quickswitch was, being a mere head retool of Sixshot rather than a brand new completely different mold, I doubt Takara would even attempt to use any version of the Sixshot mold to make Sixknight, given how slavishly reverent Takara is to the source material.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how it would be. Greatshot has a very different helmet from the one Takara made for their Sixshot, and regardless of that new helmet there would stiil need to be further retooling to give Greatshot his unique chestplate, shoulders, and rhino head.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Thought I had on the throne, what if the remolding to Six Shot is to prepare for a greater retool into Great Shot?
Wouldn't sixnight be more likely because quickswitch was released in that boxed set
Sixknight would require far, far, far more retooling than Greatshot.
Because TR Quickswitch doesn't look like Quickswitch or Sixknight. If we're going the route of ignoring the molding changes they'd need, then by this logic they could simply do up Sixshot in Greatshot colours with no molding differences -- and that would be more accurate to Greatshot than TR Quickswitch is to Quickswitch.
Yeah but none of these figures from hasbro or takara are 100 percent toy or show accurate anyway sure some look closer than others and some are way off why would this be any different
Posted by Cyberpath on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:22am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:25am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Hmmm, maybe it means that he'll be packed with another Titan Master like the smaller figures have so far.Kurona wrote:That might make sense -- though in that case, who would it be? I can't think of any significant human, nebulon or otherwise tiny partner of Octane in the cartoon unless they're making Sandstorm.
The head of Starscream's ghost? Or maybe Skuxxoid?
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:32am CDT
HEY! PERCEPTOR GOT A SHUFFLER VEHICLE, NEAT!
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:36am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:Kurona, ready your news report
HEY! PERCEPTOR GOT A SHUFFLER VEHICLE, NEAT!
I have grown predictable
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:40am CDT
image from TFND, Yes, Spike is totally Cerebros from The Rebirth, it can link Via Fortress Maximus whether if its or versions.
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:40am CDT
Edit: And thanks to fellow board member Albatross250, we have a post from TFND's facebook which shows off Bumblebee's Vehicle mode and the fact that Titan Master Spike turns into the head of the American version of Cerebros; AKA Headmaster of Fortress Maximus!
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:46am CDT
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:51am CDT
Kurona wrote:I could only credit one person so I had to give it to Cyberpath. Sorry Albatross
It's fine,i don't mind it anyway~ Oh right, by the way, Spike can also link into Fort Max's Head in or versions. Although the Clear Plastic is really spooks me out
Posted by Cyberpath on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:52am CDT
Kind of disappointed that they didn't give Perceptor a new head/face-sculpt. Whoever keeps sculpting these extreme cheekbones (MP-11, MP-12, UW04-Hook, etc) -- stop.
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:53am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:LG54 Bee has clear windows and silver rims, they really upgrade his look.
Kind of disappointed that they didn't give Perceptor a new head/face-sculpt. Whoever keeps sculpting these extreme cheekbones (MP-11, MP-12, UW04-Hook, etc) -- stop.
At least he got a very smol RHINO
EDIT: THAT'S RAMHORN BTW, SHOOT!