New Artwork Featuring the 5 Members of Predacus

Before anyone complains about Ravage's head, go look at some of the package art from the original Beast Wars figures, and compare it to the toys.


I choose to believe this was intentional, meant as an homage to some of the more... creative package art from that era. I know it's probably not the case, but I'm going to pretend, because I need something to be happy about right now.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I choose to believe this was intentional, meant as an homage to some of the more... creative package art from that era. I know it's probably not the case, but I'm going to pretend, because I need something to be happy about right now.

Perhaps this?





Emerje

Oh yes, that Victorion sword would be a great match for Predacus.

well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

& neither is Ramhorn!

& btw there was A dinobot in Beast Wars

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

& neither is Ramhorn!

& btw there was A dinobot in Beast Wars

Come on, don't be facetious. Dinobot is not a Dinobot, but a Predacon turned Maximal called Dinobot.


And Ramhorn was indeed in Beast Wars: the whole point of this set is to have all the members of the Tripredacus council, plus affiliates, in one single location/figure. You're probably referring to this Ramhorn.

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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While I'm fine with the idea, no more Dinobots that turn into cars, please. Somebody in another post had the right idea with a Dynobots set. Swap in the Brawl and Rook molds and I'd be interested.

Va'al wrote:Come on, don't be facetious. Dinobot is not a Dinobot, but a Predacon turned Maximal called Dinobot.

Grimlock isn't a Dinobot?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Va'al wrote:Come on, don't be facetious. Dinobot is not a Dinobot, but a Predacon turned Maximal called Dinobot.

Grimlock isn't a Dinobot?

Emerje

Pretty sure that's not what Stuartmaximus is referring to.
But yes, good point. There's also BW Neo Hardhead and BWII Thrust, all using the same character model.

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

2Q==.jpg

Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

& neither is Ramhorn!

& btw there was A dinobot in Beast Wars

Come on, don't be facetious. Dinobot is not a Dinobot, but a Predacon turned Maximal called Dinobot.


And Ramhorn was indeed in Beast Wars: the whole point of this set is to have all the members of the Tripredacus council, plus affiliates, in one single location/figure. You're probably referring to this Ramhorn.

well seeing as the Tripredicus Council were never named(or at least Ramhorn's name didn't appear on the show) on the actual show(probably named in either the comics or Beast Wars 2....to which i s'pose....not everyone read......or watched! compared to that of Beast Wars).

but yeah, i guess i was referring to the G1 character.

Actually the names came from the toys

They are not named in show other than 'Tripredacus Council'. But there was also a toy called Trippredacus. It's well known that toy is meant to be the council members. Even before I knew that was confirmed, I made the link as a kid. And they were named on the toys. Though I did get Sea Clamp and Cicadacon mixed up on show.

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

Also the fact that we just had exclusives of redecos of toys into g1 dinobots



Also, I doubt any fan would want more forced redecos for such iconic characters.

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

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Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

Also the fact that we just had exclusives of redecos of toys into g1 dinobots



Also, I doubt any fan would want more forced redecos for such iconic characters.

yes but these are those crappy Bayformer things! that people in general(granted not everybody) would rather put out of their minds! regardless of how they're repainted.

i dunno about that? having Combiner Wars figures redone as G1 Dinobots will no doubt have it's target audience(even if it were in the minority).

look! i know i'm derailing the conversation a bit.....but my question was....since they've now done this Dawn Of Predacus figure which ok...is a BotCon exclusive! & pays homage to the likes of Beast Wars....then why can't they do other exclusive sets also utilising retooled/repainted/remolded Combiner Wars figures.....LIKE what i said before.....such as the G1 Dinobots or maybe even Abominus, Monstructor, Piranhacon & Predaking! now if not Botcon...then maybe United Warriors exclusive sets(& as i said before.....i'm sure that there's a target audience for such things).

as for the Dawn Of Predacus set...it's looking pretty nice, plus you just know now that Ramhorn will be repainted/retooled as Nosecone!

I actually quite like those "crappy" bayformers

Stu, you're getting too emotional on things again. It's quite clear that they won't be doing G1 dinobots for a beast wars themed set. If There Is another combiner coming as part of this set, then it will probably be Magnaboss.

Also, no one wants G1 dinobots that combine, because of the beast...

Va'al wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Va'al wrote:Come on, don't be facetious. Dinobot is not a Dinobot, but a Predacon turned Maximal called Dinobot.

Grimlock isn't a Dinobot?

Emerje

Pretty sure that's not what Stuartmaximus is referring to.
But yes, good point. There's also BW Neo Hardhead and BWII Thrust, all using the same character model.

I'm a little surprised we never got a Grimlock repaint from Universe Dinobot. Seemed like an obvious reuse for the mold.

ZeroWolf wrote:I actually quite like those "crappy" bayformers

Stu, you're getting too emotional on things again. It's quite clear that they won't be doing G1 dinobots for a beast wars themed set. If There Is another combiner coming as part of this set, then it will probably be Magnaboss.

Also, no one wants G1 dinobots that combine, because of the beast...

& what's wrong with being emotional? it just shows my passion for such things!

& just because a bunch of people on ONE WEBSITE!!!! deem my ideas for such Transformers, as a non starter! now granted in the realms of reality.....OF COURSE Hasbro/Takara are not gonna sign off on such things! but it is nice to dream...or at least imagine...the possibility of what might've/could've happened

& you'd be surprised.....other than myself....at how many would've been on board with the idea of Combiner Wars figures redone as G1 Dinobots or Combiner Wars Piranhacon, Abominus, Predaking ect.

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

2Q==.jpg

Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

Also the fact that we just had exclusives of redecos of toys into g1 dinobots

Not like Tarantulus, right? We'd never get a single character redeco'ed twice in a little more than a year, and certainly not from the same Club, right? Nah, no way. Redecos are ALWAYS well spaced out so we don't get two versions of the same character forced on us in a short time frame.

Dagon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:well if they're doing beast exclusives for Botcon.......then i dunno why they cannot also give us the dinobots as Botcon exclusives?

2Q==.jpg

Probably because Dinobots are not Beast Wars.

Also the fact that we just had exclusives of redecos of toys into g1 dinobots

Not like Tarantulus, right? We'd never get a single character redeco'ed twice in a little more than a year, and certainly not from the same Club, right? Nah, no way. Redecos are ALWAYS well spaced out so we don't get two versions of the same character forced on us in a short time frame.

nicely put

Va'al wrote:

It's true though, and your picture there is more of a sass attempt than what I said.

Dagon wrote:

Va'al wrote:

It's true though, and your picture there is more of a sass attempt than what I said.

I was complimenting you!


I entirely agree with what you said. As with many aspects of the franchise, bar comics so far, the different branches don't seem to really talk to each other or keep each other on the radar in terms of releases, output and the such.

The Club is particularly guilty of that, but I have a feeling it may be down to Hasbro ultimately.

Stuartmaximus wrote:yes but these are those crappy Bayformer things! that people in general(granted not everybody) would rather put out of their minds! regardless of how they're repainted.

Those are decent figures. I'm not so keen on that way too over-the-top G1 colour homage of that particular set but they are all good looking molds in both dino and robot mode. Particularly fond of AoE Voyager Grimlock.

And nope I've never had any desire for the G1 Dinobots to combine in any way even years before that awful Beast comic which IS something most people would want to put out of their minds and never ever be reminded of again.

Va'al wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Va'al wrote:

It's true though, and your picture there is more of a sass attempt than what I said.

I was complimenting you!


I entirely agree with what you said. As with many aspects of the franchise, bar comics so far, the different branches don't seem to really talk to each other or keep each other on the radar in terms of releases, output and the such.

The Club is particularly guilty of that, but I have a feeling it may be down to Hasbro ultimately.

Well then, apologies.

As for Hasbro, they're on the hook for the SDCC exclusives, like the Dinobots, but has nothing to do with the Club's doubling up on Tarantulus twice in a year. But truthfully, I think it's just "bad timing."
Tarantulus as a part of the theme of the 2016 boxset makes perfect sense, and I am sure they could switch him out with someone else, although I can't think of anyone offhand. As far as the TFSS Tarantulus goes, I can totally understand why the Club went that route, and that figure makes sense as well, and is Tarantulus-topical with the Microns and stuff. The 'issue' is that they are/were released so quickly, one after the other.
Both good, perfectly understandable ideas, but just too soon. As much as it may have seemed like my previous comment was anti-TFCC, it wasn't my intention. I think Botcon Tarantulus might be the figure that the Club was hoping no one would notice just got a different figure. "Tarantulus hasn't had a toy in what, 17 years? No one will notice two in the same year, right?"

Registration is live!!

https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/689843935099916288
http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2016/register.cfm

TF_JW wrote:Registration is live!!

https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/689843935099916288
http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2016/register.cfm

For how long? I might need to wait another week for my next paycheck before I can register.

These are the boxes I was thinking of with that Predacus set. They all have six figures.

I had that same thought. But then I was thinking...

1.Predacus is a Botcon exclusive,
2.Who would the 6th member be?

They could probably use one of the Legends Insecticon molds to make a 6th member, but there really wasn't anyone else in BW (that I can recall), who was associated with the Tripredacus counsel. Not to say they couldn't make something up, but I think it is pretty good as is.

o.supreme wrote:I had that same thought. But then I was thinking...

1.Predacus is a Botcon exclusive,
2.Who would the 6th member be?.

The Attendee Figure that comes as a bonus with the Primus Package has a new head sculpt.

So it's: 1) Ravage, 2) Tarantulas, 3) Ramhorn, 4) Seaclamp, 5) Predacus, 6) Attendee Figure.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Fellow Seibertronians! From the Botcon 2016 Twitter page We now have new art for the 5 members of Predacus! We have seen images before of both Predacus and General Ramhorn, but we now have art for the remaining 4 members: Tarantulas, Ravage, General SeaClamp and General Cicadacon! Check out these images below, and sound off in the comments section regarding the new art works!

so....erm....where's Flamewar, Onyx Primal & Magmatron?

What are you talking about? These are the only confirmed exclusives so far

I would be down with the exclusives combining into Magnaboss. Makes sense. And Dinobots were not Beast Wars, whereas these are, and I like the movie dinobots. They are my only complete set (and I have all 7) and they are awesome. Bit difficult at points, but I love them

Re-posting these from the other BotCon thread.

Some interesting Tweets from the BotCon Twitter:

To clarify on the Golden Ticket figure. It's more than just a minor paint change. The GT Legends figure is cast in different color plastic.

Also, the figure does not tie in to the Convention set theme directly, but it does tie in to the continuity the set takes place in.

Note, the set doesn't take place in the Beast Wars Uprising Universe. Where it DOES take place is quite exciting! Announcement on that soon!

No, the GT toy is NOT a Beast Wars character. It uses the troop builder mold & is tied to a familiar G1 character.

The class kit figure is ALSO not a Beast Wars character. It is a Generation 1 character.

No. But it IS a 1984/1985 Generation 1 character. You definitely should add the class/class kit to ur registration.

These Tweets confirm that the troop builder set uses a Legends mold, so now we have:

5 CW molds in the boxed set

1 CW mold as the attendee freebie with a brand new headsculpt

1 CW mold as the custom class figure with an "an alternative head sculpt that is not available at retail", and which is not a BW character but a 1984/1985 G1 character

1 CW Legends class mold as the troop builder souvenir set, which will have an alternate version of itself included with the Golden Ticket package, and the GT version is also not a BW character but is related to a familiar G1 character

1 non-CW "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 CW mold souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold souvenir figure

Plus, one of the souvenir figures will feature a headsculpt that has not been released in the U.S. before.

So the custom class is probably a seeker, that's cool too bad I don't know how to customize. Also a little disappointed in the troop builder being a cw legends mold instead of a deluxe. I was hoping to get some extra limbs for one of my spare torsos.

BotCon Twitter made some more Tweets. Of the 9 CW molds used, 7 are Deluxes, 1 is a Voyager, and 1 is a Legends.

So the new rundown is as follows:

5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes and the 1 Voyager

1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt

1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character

1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character

1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure

And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.

Ah, shame. Was hoping to not have to pay for a Legends figure as a memento.

I won't lie, this line up feels very lackluster compared to other years based on face value.

Emerje wrote:Perhaps this?

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Emerje

Thinks for bursting my bubble there, Emerje.

Stuartmaximus wrote:& just because a bunch of people on ONE WEBSITE!!!! deem my ideas for such Transformers, as a non starter! now granted in the realms of reality.....OF COURSE Hasbro/Takara are not gonna sign off on such things! but it is nice to dream...or at least imagine...the possibility of what might've/could've happened

I just don't get why you think toys based on the G1 Dinobots would be a good way to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars.

Sabrblade wrote:These Tweets confirm that the troop builder set uses a Legends mold, so now we have:

5 CW molds in the boxed set

1 CW mold as the attendee freebie with a brand new headsculpt

1 CW mold as the custom class figure with an "an alternative head sculpt that is not available at retail", and which is not a BW character but a 1984/1985 G1 character

1 CW Legends class mold as the troop builder souvenir set, which will have an alternate version of itself included with the Golden Ticket package, and the GT version is also not a BW character but is related to a familiar G1 character

1 non-CW "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 CW mold souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold souvenir figure

Plus, one of the souvenir figures will feature a headsculpt that has not been released in the U.S. before.

...I've got a sinking feeling they're gonna pull the same thing they did last year and the stuff outside the box set is gonna be mostly off-theme.

Trying to play catch-up on old topics...

Sabrblade wrote:1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt

This would be the one expected to be Terrorsaur.

1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character

If it's an alternative head sculpt and not a new one plus the mention of one figure having a non-US head sculpt then I'm going out on a limb and saying Grand Galvatron Ghost Starscream mold. It hits all the right points and it does sort of fit with the BW theme, too.

1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character

Only thing that comes to mind are the car drones from Devastation out of Blackjack and maybe a proper all black drone for Menasor as the GT bonus.

1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure

Not a lot of information to really speculate on these three except to say that this has been a very Decepticon heavy BotCon so far. The "centerpiece" will likely at least be a Voyager figure. Can't think of anything recent that would make for an exciting enough centerpiece without being a CW figure. Aside from this anyway.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:BotCon Twitter made some more Tweets. Of the 9 CW molds used, 7 are Deluxes, 1 is a Voyager, and 1 is a Legends.

So the new rundown is as follows:

5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes and the 1 Voyager

1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt

1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character

1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character

1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure

And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.

what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.


that would blow it out of the ballpark if we got two different CW motofcycle molds as new characters....

Sabrblade wrote:BotCon Twitter made some more Tweets. Of the 9 CW molds used, 7 are Deluxes, 1 is a Voyager, and 1 is a Legends.

So the new rundown is as follows:

5 CW molds in the boxed set, four Deluxes and the 1 Voyager

1 CW Deluxe attendee figure with a new headsculpt

1 CW Deluxe custom class figure with an "alternative" headsculpt, and who is a 1984-1985 G1 character rather than a BW character

1 CW Legends as the troop builder set, and as the GT figure who is a non-BW character related to a familiar G1 character

1 CW Deluxe souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold "centerpiece" souvenir figure

1 non-CW mold other souvenir figure

And one of the souvenirs (not the centerpiece?) has a non-U.S. headsculpt.

what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.


that would blow it out of the ballpark if we got two different CW motofcycle molds as new characters....

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Sabrblade wrote:

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Am I the only one who thinks UW Groove could make a decent pre-BW Dinobot? I know we already have one of those, but that headsculpt makes me wonder. I honestly think it's a better likeness than the Cybertron Longrack figure. At the very least it's not as squat.

Henry921 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Am I the only one who thinks UW Groove could make a decent pre-BW Dinobot? I know we already have one of those, but that headsculpt makes me wonder. I honestly think it's a better likeness than the Cybertron Longrack figure. At the very least it's not as squat.

I'm content with this Dynobot instead:

Sabrblade wrote:

Henry921 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Am I the only one who thinks UW Groove could make a decent pre-BW Dinobot? I know we already have one of those, but that headsculpt makes me wonder. I honestly think it's a better likeness than the Cybertron Longrack figure. At the very least it's not as squat.

I'm content with this Dynobot instead:

Of course you are, you're the only one who owns it.

I'd be thrilled if that was the centerpiece figure, but I thought that was their "Beast Wars Uprising" Dinobot, and they're pushing the Combiner Wars stuff hard right now, so I find it unlikely.

Now throw in that Waspinator from MW Skywarp and everybody can be happy.

Henry921 wrote:Of course you are, you're the only one who owns it.

Not that one, specifically. Mine lacks those stripes.

I know not who got the original, but I know David Willis (a.k.a. Walky) got one like it with stripes.

Henry921 wrote:I'd be thrilled if that was the centerpiece figure, but I thought that was their "Beast Wars Uprising" Dinobot, and they're pushing the Combiner Wars stuff hard right now, so I find it unlikely.

Agreed. And this isn't Uprising either (the brochure made a typo). But the centerpiece is at least a non-CW mold.

I'm still wanting this as the centerpiece:

Sabrblade wrote:

Henry921 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Am I the only one who thinks UW Groove could make a decent pre-BW Dinobot? I know we already have one of those, but that headsculpt makes me wonder. I honestly think it's a better likeness than the Cybertron Longrack figure. At the very least it's not as squat.

I'm content with this Dynobot instead:

I swear that mold looks great as anybody.

Sabrblade wrote:

Henry921 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

beloth wrote:what about the CW grove motorcycle tf ....as blackarchnia for the attende tf and possibly elita one (she is a G1 character) as the custom figure.

Both the attendee figure and custom figure are Deluxes. CW Groove is a Legends mold.

If you meant the UW Groove mold, the notion that the custom figure has an "alternative" headsculpt implies that it's not a "brand new" head but a pretooled head that already exists for the mold, and since UW Groove was Takara's baby instead of Hasbro's, it isn't likely that the mold has a pretooled head since it's Hasbro, rather than Takara, who's all about planning for pretooled heads nowadays.

Am I the only one who thinks UW Groove could make a decent pre-BW Dinobot? I know we already have one of those, but that headsculpt makes me wonder. I honestly think it's a better likeness than the Cybertron Longrack figure. At the very least it's not as squat.

I'm content with this Dynobot instead:

his vehicle mode almost has Roadbuster colours

That Dinobot is beyond words. So, SO much better than armada hoist for the character. I just have one question: Where can I get one?

Insurgent wrote::shock:


That Dinobot is beyond words. So, SO much better than armada hoist for the character. I just have one question: Where can I get one?

I would say to make a submission to fan customizer Cheetimus Primal for him to paint one for you... but I think he's retiring.