New Art for Transformers Power of the Primes: Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, Grimlock, more
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Posted by Burn on September 13th, 2017 @ 11:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:What I would want, and I dont think we will get it, would be a Megatron that turns into Galvatron to oppose Rodimus.
Slight deviation ... there's a picture floating around that shows Megatron who can turn into a gun, but that gun then combines with a green tank (ala G2) which then transforms into a combined mode.
Posted by Bronzewolf on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:02am CDT
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:What I would want, and I dont think we will get it, would be a Megatron that turns into Galvatron to oppose Rodimus.
Slight deviation ... there's a picture floating around that shows Megatron who can turn into a gun, but that gun then combines with a green tank (ala G2) which then transforms into a combined mode.
Wait, what? I hadn't heard about that at all!
Although Megatron turning into a gun automatically makes me suspicious.
Posted by DestronMirage22 on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:14am CDT
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:What I would want, and I dont think we will get it, would be a Megatron that turns into Galvatron to oppose Rodimus.
Slight deviation ... there's a picture floating around that shows Megatron who can turn into a gun, but that gun then combines with a green tank (ala G2) which then transforms into a combined mode.
That sounds awesome.
I don't suppose you're able to share that pic?
Posted by Burn on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:14am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:What I would want, and I dont think we will get it, would be a Megatron that turns into Galvatron to oppose Rodimus.
Slight deviation ... there's a picture floating around that shows Megatron who can turn into a gun, but that gun then combines with a green tank (ala G2) which then transforms into a combined mode.
Wait, what? I hadn't heard about that at all!
Although Megatron turning into a gun automatically makes me suspicious.
It wasn't official, guessing it was a fan art thing. Can't even find it now, knew I should have saved it.
Posted by noctorro on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:36am CDT
mordhelm wrote:
The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.
WHAAATTTTT!!!!
Somebody actually complaining about not enough repaints?
Posted by Gearslide on September 14th, 2017 @ 2:30am CDT
Posted by ArmadaPrime on September 14th, 2017 @ 2:37am CDT
With the odd dimensions and multiple variations on roughly the same thing, im gonna gues they're for point of sale displays in stores and the like
Posted by ExciKaiser on September 14th, 2017 @ 3:53am CDT
noctorro wrote:WHAAATTTTT!!!!
Somebody actually complaining about not enough repaints?
As long they're pertinent, I have no issue.
I'll continue to insist on the next ten years about this missed opportunity in CW :
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Posted by RAR on September 14th, 2017 @ 5:15am CDT
It should be red.
Posted by Burn on September 14th, 2017 @ 5:44am CDT
Once again.
FAN ART
Posted by Insurgent on September 14th, 2017 @ 5:53am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 14th, 2017 @ 7:08am CDT
Posted by Burn on September 14th, 2017 @ 7:11am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:So basically you get a prime master, when a pretender, head master, target master and power master all get together and have a baby.
Posted by ThunderThruster on September 14th, 2017 @ 7:18am CDT
Qwan wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I thought we saw all the leaders and it's only going to be Prime, Rodimus, Repaint Rodimus, and Primal.
Those Leaders are all we saw in the leaks, yes, but those leaks only show what was "planned" for the first four (three? I'd trust Will on this one) waves. Since at this point we can be fairly certain PotP will be 6 waves, that leaves at least two waves' worth of Leaders (and every other class too) that we haven't yet seen.
3 waves of Prime Masters, Legends, Voyagers and Leaders, and 4 waves of Deluxes, were revealed in the leak, so its both the first 3 and 4 waves dependant on size class, that we know about.
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
Qwan wrote:Those Leaders are all we saw in the leaks, yes, but those leaks only show what was "planned" for the first four (three? I'd trust Will on this one) waves. Since at this point we can be fairly certain PotP will be 6 waves, that leaves at least two waves' worth of Leaders (and every other class too) that we haven't yet seen.
Thanks for your trust Yeah, it was 3 waves of leaders. And while 6 waves hasnt been confirmed yet, I have a feeling it will be something around those lines, but with repacks scattered throughout (something already confirmed). Then again, the amount of waves isnt really much on an indicator anymore. We can say Titans return had 6 waves but the last one only has 1 new figure.
Our best indicator is what has been confirmed for power masters coming out, we know there will be 12 coming out in that class. And we know they are releasing them 2-3 at a time with 8 different ones released by wave 3. So there would be 4 left after that, enough for 2 more waves of new toys. That at least means to me we will be getting at least 2 more leaders from what we have seen. And one would probably be Star Sabre based on the interview we just had, along with how he makes sense in the play pattern.
Posted by Kurona on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:14am CDT
Posted by mordhelm on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:33am CDT
noctorro wrote:mordhelm wrote:
The thing I am a bit shocked by is that there were a ton of repaint/retool possibilities in TR that would have made sense, and hasbro chose not to overload us this time.
WHAAATTTTT!!!!
Somebody actually complaining about not enough repaints?
Way to completely misunderstand my post.
Posted by RAR on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:33am CDT
Otherwise I'm getting a mediocre Optimus Prime truck with an unusable/undesirable cab that Transforms into someone who shouldn't exist (anymore if at all) so basically the whole set is only a display piece for robot mode - if it has a secret base mode then that Might help I guess (a bit) But it's under-decorated and a bit boring looking to me.
I would likely like it more if they re-mould it into Nemesis Prime and totally redo the legs and chest of the cab-robot so it looks like Optimus and eventually reissue the toy in double Optimus form - I certainly NEVER want to see that Orion Pax ever again. they need to remould it and only ever use that for re-issues.
Perhaps if they do plan to do an Ultra Magnus with that design then that will provide a proper Optimus - and they can release that as just a cab in a gift set that would be acceptable then Orion Can go in the back of a deep dark draw to be forever forgotten like he deserves to be.
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Rodimus is OK - nothing special but OK - again if he has a trailer-gun mode or a secret base mode that would help - otherwise he's under-designed.
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Optimal Optimus : Would it have killed them to put some wheels on it ?
If they had to castrate the Monkey mode they could have at least put some winglets on the surfboard mode or perhaps some flip out wheels so it can double up as a cab for Optimus or Rodimus.
Main robot is OK but the lack of the ground vehicle mode annoys me - it's like an extra insult on top of the missing Monkey Mode for Deluxe Primal.
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The probably should do a Megatron/G2 Megatron or a Megatron/Galvatron one since he's one of the few to actually be seen evolving.
Also it might help apologise for the dreadful TR Voyager Galvatron toy.
Alternatively throw G1 compliance in the trash and make an Armada/Energon Evolutions toy instead. all you need to do is make a Deluxe Tank Megatron and an Ultra Energon Megatron and combine them in the usual way.
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I'm sure the line is "Fine" overall. But as I said before I'm not going to see any of it on a shelf very often so I likely won't ever get any great attachment to it for that reason - I can't get attached to something if I know I'll only be able to collect it online. I like to buy toys in person sometimes.
But judging by the complete and total lack lack of The last Knight toys of any merit - (if being as bad as it was when they were UK TRU exclusives) I think Hasbro is in trouble here - as they simply won't have the outlets to get the numbers.
No wonder 80% of what I buy now is 3rd party and what I buy that isn't is things like the odd bit of RID or some Rescue Bots as that is all there is around here.
I'm sure they are perfectly fine - I just don't expect to see them so I don't feel inspired to feel to invested yet. I guess sometime around Easter I might be able to pick some up in The Entertainer or Smyths sales.
But if they keep costing £20.00 - I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.
Posted by Kurona on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:37am CDT
Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.
Posted by RAR on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:39am CDT
Perhaps some people were expecting something more Powermaster like and were feeling disappointed with it.
I'm in a bad place as I'm at best barely tolerant of Orion Pax. But that said I'm not sure what I think about the likely hood that Elita-1 is going to be taller than him either.
I think Elita-1 may end up displaying better with the TR toy instead.
Posted by Nexus Knight on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:44am CDT
Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes Optimus' truck mode and doesn't understand the dislike towards it?
Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.
No, you're not. I absolutely want this figure. It's all sorts of pretty for me. My crew needs a proper Leader, and this feels like a Leader I'm really going to buy (not because I think previous ones are crap, I just never have had the extra money).
Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.
And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:55am CDT
Kurona wrote:Talking of said interview, I unfortunately don't think we can expect a new-mold Decepticon Leader-class either We did get a ton in TR though so oh well.
Hence why I dont think we will get Deathsaurus in this line.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on September 14th, 2017 @ 8:59am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes Optimus' truck mode and doesn't understand the dislike towards it?
Like yeah, okay, Orion Pax's arms hanging off the back of the cab is a bit lazy and ech; but aside from that what's the problem? It looks great.
No, you're not. I absolutely want this figure. It's all sorts of pretty for me. My crew needs a proper Leader, and this feels like a Leader I'm really going to buy (not because I think previous ones are crap, I just never have had the extra money).
Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.
And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?
I really don't see the Orion Pax to Optimus really much different than Titan Masters. If you see the trailer as the Transtector and Orion as the Titan Master, it's no different. Almost just power up armor.
I know that's not what Hasbro's going for, but for Head Canon it works just fine. Same for Rodimus/Hot Rod.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:00am CDT
Posted by paul053 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:18am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:21am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Also, is it strange to anyone else to see Primal with a Matrix? Not a terrible "OMG why is that even a thing?!!" strange, just the "not used to seeing" strange.
And do we remember what Nexus Prime's decoy suit was supposed to be?
Nexus Prime was not leaked so we dont know yet.
Also, for Primal, I totally get it now. It is meant to imitate this scene:
just like Warden said the Rodimus toy was meant to imitate this scnene:
Both use the matrix and then turn into a larger version of themselves (with a new name)
Of course, that further shows how he should turn into a gorilla originally but whatever.
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:22am CDT
paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?
Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.
Posted by o.supreme on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:23am CDT
Also...did anyone else notice in the promo art...there are 15 Prime symbols? I wonder what the extra two are?
Posted by Kurona on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:26am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:27am CDT
o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.
I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.
Posted by o.supreme on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:34am CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.
I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.
Well I guess if they hit mass retail any time before December 20th...it would technically still be "Fall" ...in the northern hemisphere
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:41am CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9MpB5HR80
Posted by RAR on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:43am CDT
They could be cheap and leave Magnus as a white Optimus and just slightly tweak Orion into Dion.
Which I'd not mind to much - not because I want a Dion but because I'd like to legitimise the idea that Ultra Magnus could also be a White Optimus Prime. (including the trailer) - though I suppose the same idea would work with Nova Prime too.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:43am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:Is it me, or does Power of the Primes feel like it's finally Hasbro's take on Robot Masters??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9MpB5HR80
Do you mean the animation for the accompanying shows? Because I don't see how the toys are the same at all.
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 14th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
Posted by paul053 on September 14th, 2017 @ 10:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?
Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.
Is there any reason why they do that? Because that looks like wrapping the tiny dino head with plastic wraps.
Posted by frogbat on September 14th, 2017 @ 10:49am CDT
I like the weapons shown with the dinobots but I do hope there would be both gun and sword. Otherwise they're looking great.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 14th, 2017 @ 11:00am CDT
But failing that maybe a titan sized combiner using Tripredacus (Orange lobster for body, beetle for a hand? Fly for the other?), Tarantulus becoming backpack/body so the legs become the skeletal wings) and I'd probably be okay with two sweeps as feet and possibly Alpha-Q with a weapon sceptre mode (or hammer so unicronus can play planet croquet).
Still trying to complete Wave 4 onwards of the titans return stuff which might not be possible to do from availability if PotP hits stores here earlier than december (not that its possible at the mo but hey)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 14th, 2017 @ 11:09am CDT
It's "Rodimus Unicronus", a black and purple redeco of Rodimus Prime.blackeyedprime wrote:Wondering (and hoping) what Unicronus will be,
Posted by Stuartmaximus on September 14th, 2017 @ 11:16am CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So the first wave is now pushed up to Fall? That's both good and bad.... Good in that they are coming out sooner than expected, bad in that it will make it more difficult to hold off until reveals their plans for the line.
I seriously think the dates we see there is a mistake, hasbro is known for mistakes now and again. If wave 1 comes out before December I will be (happily) surprised.
didn't Combiner Wars come out around about December/January (at least in the UK)
Posted by Overcracker on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:07pm CDT
paul053 wrote:william-james88 wrote:paul053 wrote:Don't know if anyone asked about this or not. What is that clear transparent thing wrapped around the dino's head?
Thats the actual head. Its all clear plastic and they painted the hollow part underneath to give it that effect.
Is there any reason why they do that? Because that looks like wrapping the tiny dino head with plastic wraps.
Because that's what the G1 Dinobots had. Translucent plastic over certain parts like the head:
Sludge:
Slag
Snarl
Swoop
Grimlock was the odd man out, having the translucent plastic only around his neck.
Posted by Stormtalon on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:18pm CDT
1) How long do you think it will take before Takara or Hasbro makes a clone of Slash as BW Dinobot?
2) Do you think we'll get Dinoforce? The Decepticon Dinosaur combiner from Victory. It seems doable. But Hasbro has stuck to G1 throughout the Prime Wars and they haven't exactly embraced faction flipped teams. No Decepticon Aerialbot or Autobot Combaticons. We did get an Autobot version of the Stunticons in Ultra Prime/Optimus Maximus. I don't count Megatronia or Grand Galvatron as they weren't retail available.
Any thoughts?
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:42pm CDT
Am I the only one who misses Optimus just coming with a trailer that turned into a base rather then part of the robot mode.
Posted by Stormtalon on September 14th, 2017 @ 12:47pm CDT
Evolution Optimus Prime/Rodimus Prime: Meh. I know Hasbro will put a lot of thought and care into them. But I'm burned out of OP who we have as a combiner and a Titan Master twice. A third Hot Rod or OP or Bumblebee or Megatron? I'm not going to rush to the stores to get one.
Dinobot Combiner: Now that I will rush to the stores. The Prime Wars has earned my affection as they take G1 classics and update them with articulation and clever transformations. And after the kick ass TF: Prime Predacons gave way to the lame not-really Dinobots of AoE and TLK, I want some G1 goodness.
Jazz and Beachcomber: One thing to keep in mind, CW had 50+ toys and TR had 60+, this includes Legends and Voyagers. It's a good bet, that the last G1 toys that haven't been seen will find their way here. Jazz is way overdue, but I hope Bluestreak and Omega Supreme make an appearance.
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