Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay
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This has gotten the boards speculating quite a bit so it is only fair we clue all you fans in on this finding. Since November, e-bay seller Lena81822 has been selling a never before seen version of the Clasics Optimus Prime mold. This China based seller has been known to sell official factory extras in the past, and has had less to sell since the factories moved to Vietnam for 2015's products.
As can be seen, this version contains details never seen before on any previous version, such as the giant Autobot symbol on the roof. While the unpainted clear plastic may hint that this is an unfinished product, this seller has sold test copies in the past, the same painted roof and painted guns show otherwise. There was a clear version of this mold (seen below) but the clear plastic in the front was red and not blue like this version. Is this a product that has yet to see release? Or an unannounced edition that has since been canceled after some were already produced?
Let us know what you think! For those interested, these are still being auctioned (with free shipping) and the average selling price is 40-50$.
Credit(s): lena81822
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Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756294)
Posted by Railbomb on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CST
Posted by Railbomb on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CST
My bet is on a Zodiac calendar release though Primal may have counted for the Prime his year.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756295)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:47pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:47pm CST
Looks like a prototype of the original... Most of the details line up exactly to that, the only difference being that the sides of the truck aren't painted. The large Autobot badge is peculiar, though...
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756335)
Posted by bvzxa on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:03am CST
Posted by bvzxa on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:03am CST
It's probably a prototype of Cloud Optimus
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756341)
Posted by deliciouspeter on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:18am CST
Posted by deliciouspeter on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:18am CST
I always figured these were a year of the monkey thing.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756383)
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2016 @ 1:08am CST
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2016 @ 1:08am CST
Test shots or factory samples wold be my guess. Perhaps early in production they had most of the figure finished, but revised the side panels? Maybe they were going to use red plastic and paint the windows but decided to use clear plastic and paint the whole thing red like the final version. The red and opaque blue look accurate so maybe they used what they had ready to test the panels. In the end the plastic itself looks to be the same as the retail version, it's just the paint that wasn't finalized, perhaps deciding to be a little less G1 with the lines. Note that these aren't the same painted double lines from the Takara Tomy release, those have the line connected in the back. On the other hand the head and stack gun is identical to the Classics version.
I doubt it's a KO, those normally wouldn't use such a blatant Autobot symbol and the seller doesn't appear to sell bootlegs normally. I know the listing says Transformers 4, but that's probably just to generate interest. I also doubt it's a zodiac figure since it doesn't have a zodiac faction symbol on it.
Emerje
I doubt it's a KO, those normally wouldn't use such a blatant Autobot symbol and the seller doesn't appear to sell bootlegs normally. I know the listing says Transformers 4, but that's probably just to generate interest. I also doubt it's a zodiac figure since it doesn't have a zodiac faction symbol on it.
Emerje
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756449)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:01am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:01am CST
The fact that the autobot symbol is silver makes me think that this maybe a test sample for the classics prime that came with evasion mode movie prime. If that is the case, then maybe this redco was dropped before we even had a whiff of the two set.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756454)
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:18am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:18am CST
Another thing to consider, this toy was also found on Weibo
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756466)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 17th, 2016 @ 8:12am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 17th, 2016 @ 8:12am CST
maybe it's a custom job....from the standard figure?
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756468)
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2016 @ 8:17am CST
Not a custom, there are too many produced (assembly line style) for it to be that. Click on the link to see the seller's previously sold items and you will see a truckload of this guy.
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2016 @ 8:17am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:maybe it's a custom job....from the standard figure?
Not a custom, there are too many produced (assembly line style) for it to be that. Click on the link to see the seller's previously sold items and you will see a truckload of this guy.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756477)
Posted by dragons on January 17th, 2016 @ 9:19am CST
Posted by dragons on January 17th, 2016 @ 9:19am CST
like how this figure looks not enough for me buy again
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756515)
Posted by Microraptor on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:59pm CST
Posted by Microraptor on January 17th, 2016 @ 12:59pm CST
Maybe they scrapped it once they realized how many Classics Prime redecos they've made?
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756516)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2016 @ 1:10pm CST
Didn't stop the Seekers from happening.
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2016 @ 1:10pm CST
Microraptor wrote:Maybe they scrapped it once they realized how many Classics Prime redecos they've made?
Didn't stop the Seekers from happening.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756572)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2016 @ 5:03pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2016 @ 5:03pm CST
Doesn't have one of those fancy animal-based Autobot symbols, though.Railbomb wrote:My bet is on a Zodiac calendar release though Primal may have counted for the Prime his year.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756610)
Posted by durroth on January 17th, 2016 @ 6:28pm CST
Posted by durroth on January 17th, 2016 @ 6:28pm CST
... I had a nightmare once where we got all the seekers, but they were all repaints of a bumblebee mold with the seeker head.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756788)
Posted by Kyleor on January 18th, 2016 @ 8:42am CST
Posted by Kyleor on January 18th, 2016 @ 8:42am CST
The "factory extras" will want to be changed to "factory quality control rejects" since that's what the seller is actually peddling.
If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.
If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756790)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 9:06am CST
There is a feedback thread for Lena. It's a mixed bag but as a customer I can say that many times it is in fact company extras and NOT failed QC. Here are the folowing figures that I can give my seal of aproval that have no defect whatsoever compared to the released versions:
MP Megatron
Legends Gelshark
Cloud Shockwave
Gen Tankor
Legends Tankor (bought for 6$ each shipping included!!!!!!!!!!)
Gen Roadbuster
Legends Whirl
Special edition clear gen roller
Universe Motromaster
TF Expo Exclusive MP Sideswipe (the mistake here was the name on the exclusive sticker sheet, but the toy is perfect Woohoo!)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 9:06am CST
Kyleor wrote:The "factory extras" will want to be changed to "factory quality control rejects" since that's what the seller is actually peddling.
If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.
There is a feedback thread for Lena. It's a mixed bag but as a customer I can say that many times it is in fact company extras and NOT failed QC. Here are the folowing figures that I can give my seal of aproval that have no defect whatsoever compared to the released versions:
MP Megatron
Legends Gelshark
Cloud Shockwave
Gen Tankor
Legends Tankor (bought for 6$ each shipping included!!!!!!!!!!)
Gen Roadbuster
Legends Whirl
Special edition clear gen roller
Universe Motromaster
TF Expo Exclusive MP Sideswipe (the mistake here was the name on the exclusive sticker sheet, but the toy is perfect Woohoo!)
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756800)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:01pm CST
Oh boy! Looks like I missed an interesting conversation.
Anyway, dropping by to let ya'll see some pics of the Planet of Junk Clash set from two sources:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4309565914?kz=4309565914
https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/posts/203157263368042
So we got Wreck-Gar as a redeco of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar, Autobot Hot Rod (NOT "Rodimus") as a redeco of Classics Rodimus, and Junkion Scrapheap as a redeco of e-HOBBY United Scrapheap.
Anyway, dropping by to let ya'll see some pics of the Planet of Junk Clash set from two sources:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4309565914?kz=4309565914
https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/posts/203157263368042
PLANET OF JUNK CLASH
WRECK-GAR and the Junkions aren't easy to understand - they speak in scattered phrases learned from Earth TV signals - but they're fiercely protective of their planet and the scrap piles that cover it. When the Autobots arrive, the Junkions come out weapons swinging. Before things get ugly, AUTOBOT HOT ROD ends the battle not with a bang, but with a bah-weep-granah weep ni ni bong.
The text is too blurry to tell what that word is, but it looks like "snoopy" or "speedy".WRECK-GAR
The Junkion leader wants to make sure the (something) AUTOBOT visitors get mud in their eye, by-and-by. Film at 11:00.
AUTOBOT HOT ROD
Uses the TRANSFORMERS' universal greeting and instantly turns the Junkions from enemies to allies.
JUNKION SCRAPHEAP
When your leader speaks only in phrases learned from Earth TV, the battle plan may sound a bit unusual.
So we got Wreck-Gar as a redeco of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar, Autobot Hot Rod (NOT "Rodimus") as a redeco of Classics Rodimus, and Junkion Scrapheap as a redeco of e-HOBBY United Scrapheap.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756806)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CST
A few weeks ago, we were made aware of an upcoming Platinum Planet of Junk set that would be around the 80$ price range. Theories were abound. Was it a reissue of some G1 Wreck Gar molds with some novelties? Or a reissue of the RTS Wreck Gar mold? Or a Combiner made up of a bunch of Deluxe Groove redecos? Or to take the title literally, a combiner made up of Motormaster and 4 redecos of Breakdown?
Well, thanks to Cybertron Philippines we now know that it is he following:
Wreck-Gar as a redeco of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar
Autobot Hot Rod (NOT "Rodimus") as a redeco of Classics Rodimus
Junkion Scrapheap as a redeco of e-HOBBY United Scrapheap
About Rodimus, it should be noted that he is called Hot Rod again. Lastly, be sure to check out the new 30th Movie Anniversary logo found on the box pictured below. This is the first time we have seen this logo being used and it would hint that it will be used on other sets and toys throughout the year.
Let us know what you think in the discussion!
Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade helped us by jotting down the writing found on the box:
Well, thanks to Cybertron Philippines we now know that it is he following:
Wreck-Gar as a redeco of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar
Autobot Hot Rod (NOT "Rodimus") as a redeco of Classics Rodimus
Junkion Scrapheap as a redeco of e-HOBBY United Scrapheap
About Rodimus, it should be noted that he is called Hot Rod again. Lastly, be sure to check out the new 30th Movie Anniversary logo found on the box pictured below. This is the first time we have seen this logo being used and it would hint that it will be used on other sets and toys throughout the year.
Let us know what you think in the discussion!
Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade helped us by jotting down the writing found on the box:
PLANET OF JUNK CLASH
WRECK-GAR and the Junkions aren't easy to understand - they speak in scattered phrases learned from Earth TV signals - but they're fiercely protective of their planet and the scrap piles that cover it. When the Autobots arrive, the Junkions come out weapons swinging. Before things get ugly, AUTOBOT HOT ROD ends the battle not with a bang, but with a bah-weep-granah weep ni ni bong.
The text is too blurry to tell what that word is, but it looks like "snoopy" or "speedy".WRECK-GAR
The Junkion leader wants to make sure the (something) AUTOBOT visitors get mud in their eye, by-and-by. Film at 11:00.
AUTOBOT HOT ROD
Uses the TRANSFORMERS' universal greeting and instantly turns the Junkions from enemies to allies.
JUNKION SCRAPHEAP
When your leader speaks only in phrases learned from Earth TV, the battle plan may sound a bit unusual.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756807)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CST
Depending on price and availability I may have to get this. I'm lacking a good rodimus and always wanted wreck gar
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756809)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CST
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CST
I could go for scrapheap just by himself. He's different enough all on his own.
It's too bad it didn't redeco the old Universe Hound mould as Detrius, I'd have bought it then.
It's too bad it didn't redeco the old Universe Hound mould as Detrius, I'd have bought it then.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756810)
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:38pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:38pm CST
Super cool for anyone who is missing these guys.
Also slightly tempting from an Army Building perspective.
Decos look nice, but do Rod's yellow legs look a tad funky?
Gotta wonder if anything was done about the handle bar issue on the moto-cicles.
Also slightly tempting from an Army Building perspective.
Decos look nice, but do Rod's yellow legs look a tad funky?
Gotta wonder if anything was done about the handle bar issue on the moto-cicles.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756811)
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CST
Scrap Head is OK - Wreck gar is decent upgrade fodder I suppose - Hotrod is oddly decorated but might look interesting in Protector Armour perhaps.
Not the greatest set overall. and yes it is a missed oppurtunity to make the long desired Detritus from Classics Hound... so that is a repaint that the 3rd parties will likely beat Hasbro too using their own MP style Hound moulds.
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Oh and regarding the earlier points I have no objection what so ever with Generation One Mould being used to make "New" Generation One Characters like Road Rage or Crosscut.
I would say however that such reissues (when a new Character) have more right to claim to be G1 toys even if they are released decades later than any toy that specifically resembles a current comic does - and even Botcon toys do simply as it's a matter of style & context.
But context is Important as I would for example offer the distinction of saying Masterpiece Prowl represents and Original Transformers Character (or G1 Character if you prefer) - bit that does not make him a G1 toy - but as I say I have no objection what so over saying Road rage is Generation One any more than I wouldn't have an objection to a 1990's European Copper box reissue being G1 also.
I would however offer the same kind of specific distinction between Character and Toyline to a whole host of other product like Q-Robo, Alternity, Binaltech/Alternators and so on.
I would also totally count Japanese G1 as an acceptable thing to Call Generation One even if it's not the same continuity as Western Transformers exactly because of context again. However I would be careful with my terminology when describing IDW Comics as that is so unlike the original Universe in so many ways that frankly it sort of "Breaks" the premise and can't so easily be said to be more than something that is "Based On G1" or to put it another way I legitimately feel IDW as a Universe is further away from "Original Transformers" in some cases than Kiss Players is.
Why.. ? well it has to do with Characterisation - they change the personalities and when you do that what you are making becomes more of a re-imagining than a simple "other take" on a situation. but also the Context - if the Lost Light was the Ark say then you have a stronger argument for the Pro-G1 interpretation but the more differences you add the more it drifts away.
In conclusion IDW is another type of Transformers story loosely based on G1 just as Transformers Energon or Transformers Animated is. .. it may however be a closer relative than Transformers Prime is though in some ways but I can't condone it being called "Generation One" in any way that suggests it's interchangable with the 1980s content, or product directly derived from the 1980's content (like Road Rage).
Not the greatest set overall. and yes it is a missed oppurtunity to make the long desired Detritus from Classics Hound... so that is a repaint that the 3rd parties will likely beat Hasbro too using their own MP style Hound moulds.
--------
Oh and regarding the earlier points I have no objection what so ever with Generation One Mould being used to make "New" Generation One Characters like Road Rage or Crosscut.
I would say however that such reissues (when a new Character) have more right to claim to be G1 toys even if they are released decades later than any toy that specifically resembles a current comic does - and even Botcon toys do simply as it's a matter of style & context.
But context is Important as I would for example offer the distinction of saying Masterpiece Prowl represents and Original Transformers Character (or G1 Character if you prefer) - bit that does not make him a G1 toy - but as I say I have no objection what so over saying Road rage is Generation One any more than I wouldn't have an objection to a 1990's European Copper box reissue being G1 also.
I would however offer the same kind of specific distinction between Character and Toyline to a whole host of other product like Q-Robo, Alternity, Binaltech/Alternators and so on.
I would also totally count Japanese G1 as an acceptable thing to Call Generation One even if it's not the same continuity as Western Transformers exactly because of context again. However I would be careful with my terminology when describing IDW Comics as that is so unlike the original Universe in so many ways that frankly it sort of "Breaks" the premise and can't so easily be said to be more than something that is "Based On G1" or to put it another way I legitimately feel IDW as a Universe is further away from "Original Transformers" in some cases than Kiss Players is.
Why.. ? well it has to do with Characterisation - they change the personalities and when you do that what you are making becomes more of a re-imagining than a simple "other take" on a situation. but also the Context - if the Lost Light was the Ark say then you have a stronger argument for the Pro-G1 interpretation but the more differences you add the more it drifts away.
In conclusion IDW is another type of Transformers story loosely based on G1 just as Transformers Energon or Transformers Animated is. .. it may however be a closer relative than Transformers Prime is though in some ways but I can't condone it being called "Generation One" in any way that suggests it's interchangable with the 1980s content, or product directly derived from the 1980's content (like Road Rage).
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756812)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
two bikes and a car!....hmmm....i'd really have to see video reviews of these before i decided to buy when they no doubt will eventually appear on store shelves here in the UK seeing as we've already had aĺl the recent previous Platinum Editions here anyway.
the only downside of having those on store shelves in the UK is that like with the previous Platinum Editions here in the UK to begin with.........went for silly money(hiked prices) which'll no doubt be the case with these!
the only downside of having those on store shelves in the UK is that like with the previous Platinum Editions here in the UK to begin with.........went for silly money(hiked prices) which'll no doubt be the case with these!
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756816)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:14pm CST
While this is really a topic for another thread, IDW is Gen 1 redux. A lot of characters started out as their G1 selves but ongoing development changed them (aka something the G1 toon never did).
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:14pm CST
RAR wrote:Scrap Head is OK - Wreck gar is decent upgrade fodder I suppose - Hotrod is oddly decorated but might look interesting in Protector Armour perhaps.
Not the greatest set overall. and yes it is a missed oppurtunity to make the long desired Detritus from Classics Hound... so that is a repaint that the 3rd parties will likely beat Hasbro too using their own MP style Hound moulds.
--------
Oh and regarding the earlier points I have no objection what so ever with Generation One Mould being used to make "New" Generation One Characters like Road Rage or Crosscut.
I would say however that such reissues (when a new Character) have more right to claim to be G1 toys even if they are released decades later than any toy that specifically resembles a current comic does - and even Botcon toys do simply as it's a matter of style & context.
But context is Important as I would for example offer the distinction of saying Masterpiece Prowl represents and Original Transformers Character (or G1 Character if you prefer) - bit that does not make him a G1 toy - but as I say I have no objection what so over saying Road rage is Generation One any more than I wouldn't have an objection to a 1990's European Copper box reissue being G1 also.
I would however offer the same kind of specific distinction between Character and Toyline to a whole host of other product like Q-Robo, Alternity, Binaltech/Alternators and so on.
I would also totally count Japanese G1 as an acceptable thing to Call Generation One even if it's not the same continuity as Western Transformers exactly because of context again. However I would be careful with my terminology when describing IDW Comics as that is so unlike the original Universe in so many ways that frankly it sort of "Breaks" the premise and can't so easily be said to be more than something that is "Based On G1" or to put it another way I legitimately feel IDW as a Universe is further away from "Original Transformers" in some cases than Kiss Players is.
Why.. ? well it has to do with Characterisation - they change the personalities and when you do that what you are making becomes more of a re-imagining than a simple "other take" on a situation. but also the Context - if the Lost Light was the Ark say then you have a stronger argument for the Pro-G1 interpretation but the more differences you add the more it drifts away.
In conclusion IDW is another type of Transformers story loosely based on G1 just as Transformers Energon or Transformers Animated is. .. it may however be a closer relative than Transformers Prime is though in some ways but I can't condone it being called "Generation One" in any way that suggests it's interchangable with the 1980s content, or product directly derived from the 1980's content (like Road Rage).
While this is really a topic for another thread, IDW is Gen 1 redux. A lot of characters started out as their G1 selves but ongoing development changed them (aka something the G1 toon never did).
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756824)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CST
If this is priced around $40 i might have to get it, those are great molds and these iterations look pretty damn good. But if it priced anything above $40 then hell no, its just hasbro taking advantage of dumbass collectors again and i wont support that.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756825)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:34pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:34pm CST
The best thing about this set is the long-awaited return of the name "Hot Rod" instead of "Rodimus".
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756828)
Posted by Microraptor on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:41pm CST
Posted by Microraptor on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:41pm CST
I would be down for this if it weren't for the fact Hot Rod's legs have been saddled with the worst deco i've seen yet.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756829)
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:44pm CST
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:44pm CST
I can't work out if the use of yellow is inspired or hideous. I need more photos.
Disappointed its not G1 Reissues, though.
Disappointed its not G1 Reissues, though.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756830)
Posted by MemphisR56 on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:46pm CST
Posted by MemphisR56 on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:46pm CST
That Hot Rod Decco really sucks. Poor Decco for a poor mold.
But I'm still going to pick it up to get wreck gar and scrapheap together in one go, provided the price of admission isn't terrible.
But I'm still going to pick it up to get wreck gar and scrapheap together in one go, provided the price of admission isn't terrible.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756833)
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:50pm CST
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:50pm CST
This is pretty underwhelming... 
But it's a shame that those 3P Junkion upgrade kits are few and far between these days. Otherwise I might have a reason to snag this set.
But it's a shame that those 3P Junkion upgrade kits are few and far between these days. Otherwise I might have a reason to snag this set.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756834)
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:51pm CST
Don't worry it's not something I enjoy getting into either - it either promotes people to slag IDW off like crazy or to white knight them to the point of absurdity - Personally I just hope that one day someone else can start over who isn't quite so emmo about the whole franchise as IDW seems to be.
But I shouldn't really say that either as then it sounds like I'm being bitchy. I'm not offended by toys based on the comics as such - I just choose to see them as being more in keeping with the behaviours I expect Transformers to have than the ones James Roberts expects them to have. I'm glad for Mr. Roberts he was able to find a publisher for his spin-off fiction but it does not mean I'm prepared to over-write 30 years of history in my own mind just to please him either.
So like Wrestling or Table top RPGs, IDW is something I can say firmly doesn't suit me and I leave it to others to enjoy whatever it is that they enjoy about it while I actively chose to not participate in it.
But as I have enough compartmentalisation ability I don't actually mind at all if the odd toy is based on the current comics - if it please some for that to be the case - it's not especially offending me - as I as I said pay zero attention to what IDW or Hasbro farm to me story wise if it's IDW based.
The only reason I may sound slightly irked about it is that I can't say I approve of Hasbro using IDW bios on their toys - that doesn't make sense to me as the toyline and the comics have so little to do with each other much of the time. Even if the comics are included with some of the toys for some incomprehensible reason.
But to that all I can do is Shrug - it's not like it effects me that much as I usually buy Japanese toy anyway.
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:51pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:While this is really a topic for another thread, IDW is Gen 1 redux. A lot of characters started out as their G1 selves but ongoing development changed them (aka something the G1 toon never did).
Don't worry it's not something I enjoy getting into either - it either promotes people to slag IDW off like crazy or to white knight them to the point of absurdity - Personally I just hope that one day someone else can start over who isn't quite so emmo about the whole franchise as IDW seems to be.
But I shouldn't really say that either as then it sounds like I'm being bitchy. I'm not offended by toys based on the comics as such - I just choose to see them as being more in keeping with the behaviours I expect Transformers to have than the ones James Roberts expects them to have. I'm glad for Mr. Roberts he was able to find a publisher for his spin-off fiction but it does not mean I'm prepared to over-write 30 years of history in my own mind just to please him either.
So like Wrestling or Table top RPGs, IDW is something I can say firmly doesn't suit me and I leave it to others to enjoy whatever it is that they enjoy about it while I actively chose to not participate in it.
But as I have enough compartmentalisation ability I don't actually mind at all if the odd toy is based on the current comics - if it please some for that to be the case - it's not especially offending me - as I as I said pay zero attention to what IDW or Hasbro farm to me story wise if it's IDW based.
The only reason I may sound slightly irked about it is that I can't say I approve of Hasbro using IDW bios on their toys - that doesn't make sense to me as the toyline and the comics have so little to do with each other much of the time. Even if the comics are included with some of the toys for some incomprehensible reason.
But to that all I can do is Shrug - it's not like it effects me that much as I usually buy Japanese toy anyway.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756836)
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
Pros: Great way to get 2 Junkions I've been wanting for a more reasonable price than what the after market offers
Cons: It's another "Rodimus&Friends" set. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you, just not a high selling point knowing there was the solo release as well as the Battle in Space 2-Pack.
Cons: It's another "Rodimus&Friends" set. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you, just not a high selling point knowing there was the solo release as well as the Battle in Space 2-Pack.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756841)
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 18th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CST
I think it's about time that Protector Armour got a partial recolour as there is now 4 Takara Hotrods (E-Hobby, United, Henkei & Crystal coloured), Funpubs Sideburn, Shattered Rodimus, several KO's (including clear transparent & Smoke Transparent) some Protos including a nice white one and also Wildrider and 3 Hasbro Hot Rodimus releases (battle In space, Classics and the new Platinum) to use with it.
I guess they thought - Hey lets use it before the Titanmaster version comes out.
I guess they thought - Hey lets use it before the Titanmaster version comes out.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756845)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:06pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:06pm CST
Forgot to mention in the news post, but check out that awesome new logo they have about the 30th of the movie. It really seems like this year, Hasbro is more about the 30th anniverary of the film while Takara is about 20th anniversary of Beast Wars.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756849)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CST
Hot Rod's yellow thighs are due to the thighs being tied to the same sprue as the spoiler. I guess they really wanted a yellow spoiler and didn't feel too bothered by the thighs being yellow as a result.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756850)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CST
I wrote it in the article to a link which shows us that the set will be in the 80$ price range. Makes sense, its about 25$ per figure with premium decos.
Moreso than this being another example of Hasbro releasing what was once a japan exclusive headsculpt?
There is a silver lining though. Since Classics hotrod is in this set it means that he cannot also be in the Platinum Rodimus vs Galvatron set. So I am even more certain now that it will be G1 reissues with Galvatronbeing in toon accurate colours.
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CST
Megatron Wolf wrote:If this is priced around $40 i might have to get it, those are great molds and these iterations look pretty damn good. But if it priced anything above $40 then hell no, its just hasbro taking advantage of dumbass collectors again and i wont support that.
I wrote it in the article to a link which shows us that the set will be in the 80$ price range. Makes sense, its about 25$ per figure with premium decos.
Sabrblade wrote:The best thing about this set is the long-awaited return of the name "Hot Rod" instead of "Rodimus".
Moreso than this being another example of Hasbro releasing what was once a japan exclusive headsculpt?
Amelie wrote:I can't work out if the use of yellow is inspired or hideous. I need more photos.
Disappointed its not G1 Reissues, though.
There is a silver lining though. Since Classics hotrod is in this set it means that he cannot also be in the Platinum Rodimus vs Galvatron set. So I am even more certain now that it will be G1 reissues with Galvatronbeing in toon accurate colours.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756852)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CST
Well, the Scrapheap head's kind of already been used a few times as SG Scrap Iron and TFSS Tarantulas. Sure, this is a Hasbro-original use, but it's still coming after two previous non-Takara uses.william-james88 wrote:Moreso than this being another example of Hasbro releasing what was once a japan exclusive headsculpt?
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756854)
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:30pm CST
SET FAP-THRUSTERS TO WARP SPEED
I can't wait.
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:30pm CST
william-james88 wrote:There is a silver lining though. Since Classics hotrod is in this set it means that he cannot also be in the Platinum Rodimus vs Galvatron set. So I am even more certain now that it will be G1 reissues with Galvatronbeing in toon accurate colours.
SET FAP-THRUSTERS TO WARP SPEED
I can't wait.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756870)
Posted by Andrius on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CST
Posted by Andrius on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CST
There were a lot of fun ways to deco those figures for this set.
These are not any of them.
Oh well. A least the Junkion mold is one of the best of the past decade, so getting two of them will be worth it for some.
These are not any of them.
Oh well. A least the Junkion mold is one of the best of the past decade, so getting two of them will be worth it for some.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756871)
Posted by megatronus on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:57pm CST
Posted by megatronus on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:57pm CST
I'll pick up a copy or two of this set, even though the decos come off as really, really lazy. I haven't quite reached my quota of Wreck-Gars and Junkions.
Anyone remember back when Wreck-Gars and Junkions (and a handful of other Generations deluxes) were 6 bucks at TJ Maxx / Marshalls? Those were good times.
Anyone remember back when Wreck-Gars and Junkions (and a handful of other Generations deluxes) were 6 bucks at TJ Maxx / Marshalls? Those were good times.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756872)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CST
I wouldnt call a mld that has a serious breakage issue to be one of the best. I hope that is fixed in this release.
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CST
Andrius wrote:
Oh well. A least the Junkion mold is one of the best of the past decade, so getting two of them will be worth it for some.
I wouldnt call a mld that has a serious breakage issue to be one of the best. I hope that is fixed in this release.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756877)
Posted by Kyleor on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:08pm CST
As a fellow customer what I got WERE factory QC rejects, and their customer service leaves much to be desired. Congrats to everyone who was lucky and got good items.
Just keep your fingers crossed if you buy from them.
Posted by Kyleor on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:08pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Kyleor wrote:The "factory extras" will want to be changed to "factory quality control rejects" since that's what the seller is actually peddling.
If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.
There is a feedback thread for Lena. It's a mixed bag but as a customer I can say that many times it is in fact company extras and NOT failed QC. Here are the folowing figures that I can give my seal of aproval that have no defect whatsoever compared to the released versions:
MP Megatron
Legends Gelshark
Cloud Shockwave
Gen Tankor
Legends Tankor (bought for 6$ each shipping included!!!!!!!!!!)
Gen Roadbuster
Legends Whirl
Special edition clear gen roller
Universe Motromaster
TF Expo Exclusive MP Sideswipe (the mistake here was the name on the exclusive sticker sheet, but the toy is perfect Woohoo!)
As a fellow customer what I got WERE factory QC rejects, and their customer service leaves much to be desired. Congrats to everyone who was lucky and got good items.
Just keep your fingers crossed if you buy from them.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756878)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CST
Ok, who called the use of the RTS Junkion mold? Wait... I did! 
Didn't expect the upteenth use of Rodimus though. Seriously, he's gonna follow in the footsteps of Prime and the Seekers!
Supposedly TakaraTomy fixed the issue with the handle bars for the United and later releases. I'd still be careful and not move the manually, only use the Automorph.
Didn't expect the upteenth use of Rodimus though. Seriously, he's gonna follow in the footsteps of Prime and the Seekers!william-james88 wrote:Andrius wrote:
Oh well. A least the Junkion mold is one of the best of the past decade, so getting two of them will be worth it for some.
I wouldnt call a mld that has a serious breakage issue to be one of the best. I hope that is fixed in this release.
Supposedly TakaraTomy fixed the issue with the handle bars for the United and later releases. I'd still be careful and not move the manually, only use the Automorph.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756879)
Posted by Rated X on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:14pm CST
Posted by Rated X on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:14pm CST
Easy pass. Those decos look horrible. And what I dont get is why the junkion body decos are so similar to RTS wreck gar. They could have went with a more cartoon accurate deco for wreck gar and new colors for scrapheap.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756883)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CST
You know, I really miss knowing and guessing at the upcoming platinums sets last year. By this time last year we already had picture evidence of the Platinum Insecticons and Platinum Coneheads with the following rumourd:
Trypticon
Blaster Perceptor
Triple Changers
The only one we knew of far later were the Generations Dinobots.
As of now w only have photo evidence for the Planet of Junk with the other set rumourd to be Galvatron Vs Rodimus.
BUT, I spu something else here. Can anyone tell me what they see he in the back at the bottom. I cant quite make it out. Is this advertising another set? It just looks like Gen Skywarp to me.
Trypticon
Blaster Perceptor
Triple Changers
The only one we knew of far later were the Generations Dinobots.
As of now w only have photo evidence for the Planet of Junk with the other set rumourd to be Galvatron Vs Rodimus.
BUT, I spu something else here. Can anyone tell me what they see he in the back at the bottom. I cant quite make it out. Is this advertising another set? It just looks like Gen Skywarp to me.
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756884)
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CST
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756888)
Posted by Emerje on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:33pm CST
Might be a bit of a stretch calling these premium decos. Hot Rod only has three paint colors and (appears to have) fewer application than the original release. If they really wanted to make him a premium they should have painted his body like the Challenge at Cybertron and Battle in Space sets did. Those sets also went the extra mile to paint the spoiler so he wouldn't have bright yellow legs. This new figure is anything but premium, it's a joke compared to what it could have been.
Meanwhile Wreck-Gar doesn't look much more spectacular than the original. It's a different deco, but not necessarily better or more complex.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:33pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I wrote it in the article to a link which shows us that the set will be in the 80$ price range. Makes sense, its about 25$ per figure with premium decos.
Might be a bit of a stretch calling these premium decos. Hot Rod only has three paint colors and (appears to have) fewer application than the original release. If they really wanted to make him a premium they should have painted his body like the Challenge at Cybertron and Battle in Space sets did. Those sets also went the extra mile to paint the spoiler so he wouldn't have bright yellow legs. This new figure is anything but premium, it's a joke compared to what it could have been.
Meanwhile Wreck-Gar doesn't look much more spectacular than the original. It's a different deco, but not necessarily better or more complex.
Emerje
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756889)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:37pm CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:37pm CST
I like it. One of the few box sets where I like every figure. Helps that it's two of my fave Classics molds ever. And you get two junkions so you can do the riding thingy. Hot Rod's thighs a lil bright but I don't mind. Yeah, if it popped up in Toys R Us here in the UK I'd likely buy it but it won't cos they just seem keen on stocking almost nothing but RID crud (and some combiner wars stuff for a bit).
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756891)
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CST
I scoped most those guys at the Maxx on the cheap.
@Will - I tryed to zoom in on that little photo in Photoshop. what looks like a pic of Gen Leader Skywarp became an 8-bit image of Gen Leader Skywarp.
The image is too small to zoom in on. Sure looks like Skywarp to me. What could it mean?
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CST
I do! That was a PARTY!megatronus wrote:Anyone remember back when Wreck-Gars and Junkions (and a handful of other Generations deluxes) were 6 bucks at TJ Maxx / Marshalls? Those were good times.
I scoped most those guys at the Maxx on the cheap.@Will - I tryed to zoom in on that little photo in Photoshop. what looks like a pic of Gen Leader Skywarp became an 8-bit image of Gen Leader Skywarp.
The image is too small to zoom in on. Sure looks like Skywarp to me. What could it mean?
Re: Never Released / Revealed Edition of Classics Optimus Prime Mold Found On E-Bay (1756892)
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CST
Toys R Us Hove has plenty of Combiner Wars stuff. I even saw Ultra Magnus in the wild last week.
I'd love to catch Blaster and Perceptor, though. :T
Posted by Amelie on January 18th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:they just seem keen on stocking almost nothing but RID crud (and some combiner wars stuff for a bit).
Toys R Us Hove has plenty of Combiner Wars stuff. I even saw Ultra Magnus in the wild last week.
I'd love to catch Blaster and Perceptor, though. :T
