MP-48 Lio Convoy $200 Price Point Confirmed and New Images
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Takara Transformers MP-48 Lio Convoy looked pretty cool when he was revealed. Especially when we realized that his lion head and mane transformed from cartoony organic to robotic. The price had yet to be confirmed though, but now the listing is up at Takara Tomy Mall. The price is 21600 Yen, which comes out to a little over $200 USD. While that may not be the exact price people will be buying it at (since this includes Japanese consumer tax), it is a clear indication of the price point. Be prepared to see a similar price at importers like BBTS and TFSource and something closer to the $150 mark on Amazon Japan (not including shipping and importing fees).
This item will be released at the end of February 2020. The listing also gave us many new images, which we have for you below, enjoy!
If you want a sense of scale, here he is next to Optimus Primal, who was half the price.
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Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on August 6th, 2019 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 6th, 2019 @ 5:02pm CDT
But I will skip, having never have owned the original nor had any emotional attachment for the character.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 6th, 2019 @ 6:09pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 6th, 2019 @ 6:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2019 @ 8:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:New pics of MP Lio Convoy, comparing him with the original 1998 toy, as well as some old Lucky Draws and original concept art sketches from way back then.
https://twitter.com/robo_fun/status/1157301777101799424
Posted by william-james88 on August 6th, 2019 @ 9:38pm CDT
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2019 @ 9:41pm CDT
What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Posted by william-james88 on August 6th, 2019 @ 10:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
10% chance
Posted by Emerje on August 7th, 2019 @ 1:16am CDT
And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).
Emerje
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 7th, 2019 @ 3:07am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 7th, 2019 @ 6:24am CDT
Emerje wrote:AmiAmi is also 16,000 JPY which is strange since they're usually a little cheaper than HLJ. I'm waiting on Amazon Japan, it'll probably be cheaper once shipping is factored in.
And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).
Emerje
Is the US dollar getting weaker or the yen getting stronger?
Posted by Emerje on August 7th, 2019 @ 6:54am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:AmiAmi is also 16,000 JPY which is strange since they're usually a little cheaper than HLJ. I'm waiting on Amazon Japan, it'll probably be cheaper once shipping is factored in.
And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).
Emerje
Is the US dollar getting weaker or the yen getting stronger?
I think it's the yen getting stronger, but the USD isn't getting weaker. The yen has made massive gains against the euro this year, going from a Sept. peak of 1 euro = 133 yen to now 118 yen. Then again in that same time the euro has also weakened against the USD and to a lesser degree the CAD, but not nearly as dramatically. The CAD is still pretty weak against the USD and continues to decline against the yen. So just from that small sample I would say both the USD and yen are gaining strength, but the yen is doing it faster.
Still no Lio Convoy on Amazon Japan that I can find.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 7th, 2019 @ 7:13am CDT
Posted by transformers_va on August 7th, 2019 @ 3:23pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/
Posted by Emerje on August 7th, 2019 @ 7:10pm CDT
transformers_va wrote:william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/
That's more reasonable than I was expecting. I thought it would be more like $200. This appears to be the Hasbro price, it's now on Pulse as well.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 7th, 2019 @ 7:39pm CDT
Emerje wrote:transformers_va wrote:william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/
That's more reasonable than I was expecting. I thought it would be more like $200. This appears to be the Hasbro price, it's now on Pulse as well.
Emerje
I wonder what the Amazon JP price will be then. I'm hoping around $140 to $150
Posted by Burn on August 8th, 2019 @ 5:08am CDT
Through HLJ it would be $291AUD (without current 20% off pre-order) so definitely a good option for Australian collectors.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 8th, 2019 @ 5:21am CDT
Burn wrote:Australian pre-order @ EB Games
Through HLJ it would be $291AUD (without current 20% off pre-order) so definitely a good option for Australian collectors.
CAN$ and AU$ are about the same value. So this just make me nope.
Posted by Stargrave on August 9th, 2019 @ 3:49am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 9th, 2019 @ 3:59am CDT
I really wish I could afford this, I love the engineering that's gone on to turn the lion head mechanical for the robot mode. Though what's also amusing me is that I have a how to draw transforming robots book, written by PLEX that very pointedly calls out the Lio Convoy design and disses it then pretty much follows it up with a "this is how it should be done!" approach! Ah the rivalry between designers (PLEX work with Bandai for Sentai robot designs and Machine Robo)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 9th, 2019 @ 4:00am CDT
I am collecting the entire Beast Wars MP line, to show my little bit of support, for a series I want to keep going. Even collecting figures for characters I don't like, such as Airazor, Blackarachnia, Scorponok and Cheetor. That said, if this is a sign of things to come, that support won't be extending to the Takara sub-series.
This figure, on the other hand. might make a decent upgrade to Prowl with an extensive redeco. Although, such a figure would be hinting at something More, that Takara definitely won't do...
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 9th, 2019 @ 5:00am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 9th, 2019 @ 5:40am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Ah lio junior, or Ares as I headcannoned him
Prowl, brain of Magnaboss. I always headcannoned the Magnaboss team as the direct counterparts to the Tripredacus Council IE Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt were the Maximal Elders, mentioned but unseen.
PrOwl, does complicate that a little. But then again, that can also be incorporated into the same canon by stating Prowl entered the Beast Wars on his own after the Quantum Surge and was reformatted into an Owl.
Then again people don't really make the same issue out of Silverbolt and the Fuzor namesake, so I never saw Bots with the same names as that big an issue.
I don't like the idea of "Lio Junior" though. Excessively humanising Transformers EG with "Kid Bots", is something I've always found unnecessary and a bit grim. Like sexualising the Fem Bots.
Posted by Stargrave on August 9th, 2019 @ 5:53am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think you're getting your versions mixed up, Simba is disney, Kimba is Japan
I really wish I could afford this, I love the engineering that's gone on to turn the lion head mechanical for the robot mode. Though what's also amusing me is that I have a how to draw transforming robots book, written by PLEX that very pointedly calls out the Lio Convoy design and disses it then pretty much follows it up with a "this is how it should be done!" approach! Ah the rivalry between designers (PLEX work with Bandai for Sentai robot designs and Machine Robo)
Of course I got the two flipped. I’m always flipping things. Birds, pancakes, Transformer terms. I’m a flipping flipper. It’s like a running gag at this point.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 9th, 2019 @ 7:25am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Ah lio junior, or Ares as I headcannoned him
Prowl, brain of Magnaboss. I always headcannoned the Magnaboss team as the direct counterparts to the Tripredacus Council IE Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt were the Maximal Elders, mentioned but unseen.
PrOwl, does complicate that a little. But then again, that can also be incorporated into the same canon by stating Prowl entered the Beast Wars on his own after the Quantum Surge and was reformatted into an Owl.
Then again people don't really make the same issue out of Silverbolt and the Fuzor namesake, so I never saw Bots with the same names as that big an issue.
I don't like the idea of "Lio Junior" though. Excessively humanising Transformers EG with "Kid Bots", is something I've always found unnecessary and a bit grim. Like sexualising the Fem Bots.
Things like that never bothered me, regrading Lio junior, found it easy to look past. Though with the Maximal elders, I think that's the approach FunPub took with their botcon 2016 fiction, hence why they provided stickers for cw Prowl, Ironhide and silverbolt, to act as a reference to magnaboss. I never bothered keeping the rest of the team the same either. Heck I never even kept the genders the same
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 9th, 2019 @ 7:42am CDT
Still I think Prowl would work as a redeco'd Lio Convoy. Stripping off the shoulder kibble and the hideous feet, gives a lot of potential alternates to the mold.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 9th, 2019 @ 7:59am CDT
As for redcos, there's a black repaint, a burning repaint they could do alongside a similar redeco of Primal to represent them from the movie.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 9th, 2019 @ 8:03am CDT
I meant 'retool' not redeco. The base Lio Convoy could be Retooled into Prowl and a couple of others.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 10th, 2019 @ 9:24am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 11th, 2019 @ 12:59am CDT
Our US collectors can order Lio at Hasbro Pulse here.
Don't be a bogan hop on line and order this lion because this is one lion that won't be lying around for long, and I'm not lyin'.
Enjoy the images below and share your thoughts in the forum. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!
Posted by Emerje on August 11th, 2019 @ 1:59am CDT
if you'd rather deal with a domestic seller or an exporter that offers PayPal you do have options. Hasbro Pulse, TFSource, Big Bad Toy Store, Ages 3 and Up, Entertainment Earth, and The Chosen Prime are all asking $184.99 USD. Robot Kingdom is $142.99 USD. Hobby Link Japan and AmiAmi are asking 16,000 JPY while Hobby Search is asking 17,000 JPY. And thanks to Seibertronian AllNewSuperRobot in our Energon Pub Forums we have a UK price of £144.99 at Kapow Toys and In Demand Toys.
Posted by figureguy on August 11th, 2019 @ 10:15am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 11th, 2019 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 11th, 2019 @ 7:26pm CDT
figureguy wrote:He is now up to 16,159.
Which I pointed out in the article. The lower price comes in at checkout when they remove tax.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2019 @ 8:25am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
10% chance
As predicted, still very much available. Did you get it, Sabr?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2019 @ 9:36am CDT
Not yet. Other priorities came up.william-james88 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
10% chance
As predicted, still very much available. Did you get it, Sabr?
Posted by Stargrave on August 19th, 2019 @ 1:37pm CDT
Practically every rare Lio Convoy special edition from the original Beast Wars II line and beyond was on display as shown in the images below. Also on hand was a prototype for the new MP Lio Convoy toy and the creator of Lio Convoy himself Hisashi Yuuki and MP Lio Convoy designer Kenta Wakizawa. Along with the images enjoy a few excerpts from the translated interview done by Chohenken's Mr. Tai. Enjoy the images and share your thoughts in the forum. Click on any of the images below to go to the original Japanese article and as always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!
Toys 'R' Us Special Edition Black Lio Convoy (also released as a lucky draw version)
"Flash" Lio Convoy released to coincide with the Beast Wars Special film
From creator Yuuki regarding the extremely rare Lucky Draw multi-colored Telemaga and Ksei Lio Convoy seen below: "Have you ever seen a physical thing? I think there are only a few people in the world who don't go up, and i think only the child who really hit them. There was a standard event which was without fail in old times though it decreased now to commercialize the color that children liked in the sweepstakes of the children's magazine, and it was always troubled by the head when the color was passed suddenly and it was asked to make it to the specification. I've also decided on hundreds of colors and transformers, but this color doesn't come out easily. It was a great project for the children's imagination because it was a great project."
"Normal" C-16 Lio Convoy
Galvatron Colors Lio Convoy was a Lucky Draw exclusive limited to only 50 units. This particular version of Lio Convoy represents the Bom Bom manga story wherein Lio Convoy's spark was tainted by Angolmois Energy. From Yuuki: "If I say that, it might be so. When you open the hatch of the chest matrix properly, it is the secret emblem of Deathtron that is attached. I couldn't change the mold, but I'm trying to change that."
The sketch below is the one of the designers first renditions of Lio Convoy.
"Yuki says, "I don't want a lion on my chest for the time being. I'm tired of seeing that, yadayada(laughs) (i got the illustration from my senior) that the lion's head was running away on his back. I don't want to do this anymore. I started working on this based on why i can't see the boy's favorite lion, and that's the only thing that makes a lion the coolest. Then, it is oti that it was able to do almost the same thing.""
Here's a quick conversation with the designer of the MP Lio Convoy and Lio's original designer:
"Mr. Tai: How did you start masterpiece?
Mr. Wakizawa "First of all, I wanted to create a drawing image of the bank scene that transforms the naoconvoy of anime, and what kind of modeling do you make when you come out of anime to the present world? I wonder if the chest is massive and muscular? Or, i feel like i've put that kind of thing into modeling."
Yuki-san: "It really looks like anime. My 20-year-old is ashamed. In fact, I'm sure Hiroyuki Ohkawa re-wrote the design painting that Yuki-san wrote at the time. It's going to get better and it's going to be passed down to masterpieces."
Mr. Tai: The concept was developed as a toy for children at the time, and i think there is a difference between high target s and adults this time, but what i was aware of in that area? 」
Mr. Wakizawa: "The best thing is to expand the range of motion and recreate the scene in the play, and it has to be a mast. I wanted to make a difference from the original, so i was particular about the face of the lion in robot mode and the face of the lion in beast mode, the face of the mecha lion and the living lion, the face is changed."
Mr. Tai "Eh!? What's going on with this?
Mr. Wakizawa:It's a pleasure to be. The mane is different from the mecha lion and the living lion, so I think that's also the point."
Yuki-san: "I don't think this will happen in 20 years. At that time, it is serious when i draw raw hair, so why can I change it to a linear design? I was told by an anime shop that it was ok.
Mr. Tai: "I don't think it's going to be remade after decades. It's a desire to see both."
Mr. Wakizawa "I am particular about the state of beast mode, and i think it is also a point to try to reproduce the skeleton of the four-legged animal"
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 19th, 2019 @ 3:39pm CDT
Posted by Cheetron on August 19th, 2019 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on August 19th, 2019 @ 4:56pm CDT
Cheetron wrote:Is it bad that my flash lio convoy is in a totebox somewhere?
No, not really. Mine is in a tote somewhere as well. However I received it incomplete in a small lot with a complete Galvatron. I now have it listed on Ebay in a junk lot of figures to try and make the lot more appealing. Trying to find pieces for it is neigh impossible otherwise I'd complete and keep it.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 19th, 2019 @ 11:20pm CDT
There's also photodegredation to consider. Seeing the two Moons in the second pic made me realize that I haven't been sure where my regular Moon is for years, and if I'd ever splurged on and actually displayed the rare white one, he'd probably have just turned into the yellow one by now...like my Japanese Tigatron.Alpha Weltall wrote:Cheetron wrote:Is it bad that my flash lio convoy is in a totebox somewhere?
No, not really. Mine is in a tote somewhere as well. However I received it incomplete in a small lot with a complete Galvatron. I now have it listed on Ebay in a junk lot of figures to try and make the lot more appealing. Trying to find pieces for it is neigh impossible otherwise I'd complete and keep it.
So it's just as well that the only "variant" of the original LioConvoy I own is that Big Lots (Space Warriors?) KO that attempted the Flash deco, but used so much gray that it looks like he died then came back as a zombie by going super saian. Though I was surprised to see one deco I'd never even heard of: is that red-maned one the rarest of all? Sounds like it has an interesting story, even without the interesting translation.
But will I eventually buy the MP and any variants thereof? Probably!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 20th, 2019 @ 4:26pm CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:There's also photodegredation to consider. Seeing the two Moons in the second pic made me realize that I haven't been sure where my regular Moon is for years, and if I'd ever splurged on and actually displayed the rare white one, he'd probably have just turned into the yellow one by now...like my Japanese Tigatron.Alpha Weltall wrote:Cheetron wrote:Is it bad that my flash lio convoy is in a totebox somewhere?
No, not really. Mine is in a tote somewhere as well. However I received it incomplete in a small lot with a complete Galvatron. I now have it listed on Ebay in a junk lot of figures to try and make the lot more appealing. Trying to find pieces for it is neigh impossible otherwise I'd complete and keep it.
So it's just as well that the only "variant" of the original LioConvoy I own is that Big Lots (Space Warriors?) KO that attempted the Flash deco, but used so much gray that it looks like he died then came back as a zombie by going super saian. Though I was surprised to see one deco I'd never even heard of: is that red-maned one the rarest of all? Sounds like it has an interesting story, even without the interesting translation.
But will I eventually buy the MP and any variants thereof? Probably!
I'm curious about that red and black one too. Is there a better translation out there?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 20th, 2019 @ 4:44pm CDT
It is a Lucky Draw figure that is believed to have been part of a coloring contest held through TV Magazine, in which children participating would submit their own coloration ideas for a recolor of the figure and the winner would receive a physical copy of the figure colored in the winner's submitted deco.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bumblevivisector wrote:There's also photodegredation to consider. Seeing the two Moons in the second pic made me realize that I haven't been sure where my regular Moon is for years, and if I'd ever splurged on and actually displayed the rare white one, he'd probably have just turned into the yellow one by now...like my Japanese Tigatron.Alpha Weltall wrote:Cheetron wrote:Is it bad that my flash lio convoy is in a totebox somewhere?
No, not really. Mine is in a tote somewhere as well. However I received it incomplete in a small lot with a complete Galvatron. I now have it listed on Ebay in a junk lot of figures to try and make the lot more appealing. Trying to find pieces for it is neigh impossible otherwise I'd complete and keep it.
So it's just as well that the only "variant" of the original LioConvoy I own is that Big Lots (Space Warriors?) KO that attempted the Flash deco, but used so much gray that it looks like he died then came back as a zombie by going super saian. Though I was surprised to see one deco I'd never even heard of: is that red-maned one the rarest of all? Sounds like it has an interesting story, even without the interesting translation.
But will I eventually buy the MP and any variants thereof? Probably!
I'm curious about that red and black one too. Is there a better translation out there?
Posted by STngAR on August 21st, 2019 @ 7:51pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 30th, 2019 @ 3:59pm CST
Takara Tomy were showing off a new picture on their twitter feed, one of which was posed with a previous Takara Encore release, Anime Big Convoy! It also featured a ghostly Optimus Primal looking on. Check out the pictures below!
Accompanying the picture was this tweet, which we have run through a machine translation.
Nearly the final sample of the MP Rio Convoy has arrived from the developer (()
So I arranged it with the big convoy of the reprint anime color. Japanese beast commander combination.
Reservation is here
https://t.co/RdbAkQ9Z9H https://t.co/hS3Yxj489p
Anime Big Convoy is a redeco of Big Convoy that aims to be as close to the Beast Wars Neo look of the character.
What do you think of these pictures? Do you have a preorder locked in place for either of these? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 30th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on December 30th, 2019 @ 8:29pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 30th, 2019 @ 10:55pm CST
Posted by STngAR on December 31st, 2019 @ 1:26pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 31st, 2019 @ 5:52pm CST
STngAR wrote:Damn, did not realize encore Big Convoy was anime color. Quick search on EBay and.......add to cart.
Oh yeah, that Big Convoy is fantastic!
He will look great with Lio Convoy. We need a 3-shot with those 2 and MP-38