MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD

Wednesday, May 8th, 2019 12:58PM CDT

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There was this nice air of innocence in the air yesterday when colour images of Masterpiece Blackarachnia started appearing online. Fans speculated her small stature would mean a return to price points below $100 USD. Of course, there's the fact that she comes with both a base like Dinobot AND a web accessory bigger than her, which people may have forgotten will figure into said price point. So all in all, it comes at very little surprise that the first notion we have on its price is closer to the $130 USD mark. As can be seen below from a listing description posted by a user from TFW2005 called TTemploy, the MSRP will be 15000 yen (around $136 USD at the moment). The listing descritpion also lists different faces, a weapon and missile, visor accessories and the aforementioned bases.

Regarding the price, this is the MSRP, meaning that the prices from some Japanese vendors like Amazon Japan will be lower. However, this will be the price western sellers will probably sell this toy for and after the qc problems with previous MPs, many fans have preferred buying from local importers due to the ease of exchanging defective products.

Here is the listing description:

preorder starts on 15th
retail price : Yen 15000
release : November
package size : 165×85x240
1x Black Widow Body
1x Smile Parts
1x Screaming face parts
1x Poison Anchor
1x Anchor Missile
1x Visor
1x Visor cable
1x Cord
4x Spider Web Parts
1x TF power Base
1x ARM
1x Adapter A
1x Adapter B
1x Character card
1x User manual

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Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020911)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CDT

So, basically translating as the same price as MP Cheetor + fixed amount for the [pointless] stand. I did assume as much, some time ago now.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020913)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.

So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models

They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same. The Spider Bot and Cat Bot show models specifically demonstrate identical engineering. The same limbs, kibble, transformations etc

Mold variants aren't a new concept to the Masterpiece line either...

Blackarachnia's model has more differences with Tarantulas', chief in the shoulders, torso and legs.

Where are some good images when you need them?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020915)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:14pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.

So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models

They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same.

That is not correct. I don't mind the discussion but if you are going to correct me, please come with facts rather than simply what you think/remember. The torso is far from the only difference. There are enough differences to call them different show models in my opinion.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020916)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:15pm CDT

Tarantulas' model chest was halved vertically at the midpoint, this forms Blackarachnia's shoulder pads and breasts. The torso is tapered, as mentioned, and the hips too. To give BA Feminine "curves". Otherwise the limbs are structurally and visually identical, aside from colouration.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020917)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.

So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models

They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same. The Spider Bot and Cat Bot show models specifically demonstrate identical engineering. The same limbs, kibble, transformations etc

Mold variants aren't a new concept to the Masterpiece line either...

Blackarachnia's model has more differences with Tarantulas', chief in the shoulders, torso and legs.

Where are some good images when you need them?

Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020918)
Posted by Randomhero on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.

So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models

They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same.

That is not correct. I don't mind the discussion but if you are going to correct me, please come with facts rather than simply what you think/remember. The torso is far from the only difference. There are enough differences to call them different show models in my opinion.

tarantulus’s also wasn’t based on a stripper lol

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020919)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:35pm CDT

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.

Well played, my good man. ;)^

Anyway, back to model differences:

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020920)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:40pm CDT

God, she looks amazing =P~

Here's hoping :TAKARATOMY:

learned a lesson about plastic integrity from mp bw megs, no way they didn't catch crap for that disaster >:oP

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020921)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:45pm CDT

Tarantulus' back is also very different from Blackarachnia's

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020922)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:45pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.

Well played, my good man.

Anyway, back to model differences:

Thank you. :APPLAUSE:

Clearly some people were too busy leering at the Sex Bot design growing up, to realise that the two Spiders and two cats shared a single model, due to budget reasons. I thought the reason BW cast was so small was pretty common knowledge?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020923)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:48pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.

Well played, my good man.

Anyway, back to model differences:

Thank you.

Clearly some people were too busy leering at the Sex Bot design growing up, to realise that the two Spiders and two cats shared a single model, due to budget reasons. I thought the reason BW cast was so small was pretty common knowledge?

Look again, at the areas I previously specified: the shoulders and torso are all different, not just stretched out or compressed like Tigatron's was from Cheetor. The legs... debatable with the texturing.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020924)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CDT

no surprise on the price point honestly. Like I said when the speculation started, not just accessories, but also the amount of parts needed to pull off her transformation would be a major factor. shes bound to have a ton of panels to make it work, like mp megs "wings". in fact the image makes it seem like shes got something of a backpack, which is also expected.

My only concern, seeing all that gold paint, is that she wont be like my mp cheetor. As in, she will not have every part completely coated in paint. all of my cheetors joints have cracked and began to disintegrate from the extra tension created by the paint being on the inside of said joints. one of his wrists is more superglue then plastic now. :-(

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020925)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CDT

Yes I already addressed the shoulders, the torso and the legs. The Tarantulas mold was shaped into a Fembot.... :HEADHURTS:

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020926)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yes I already addressed the shoulders, the torso and the legs. The Tarantulas mold was shaped into a Fembot....

But the definition of "sharing" seems to be different between us. I think a more accurate term could be... "adapted"?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020927)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT

I'm starting to think there is an in-joke I'm missing at this point :DANCE:

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020928)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2019 @ 2:06pm CDT

I wouldn't know :o)

As the original point of the show models being similar was to see how feasible Tarantulas would be as a retool, I'd say maybe. Not as a direct retool (meaning directly sharing parts), but made from the same "skeleton", meaning joint placement and transformation would be the same. Same for Tigatron.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020929)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 8th, 2019 @ 2:10pm CDT

All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode?? Especially in a line wherein production costs are so much more.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020933)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on May 8th, 2019 @ 3:22pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode?? Especially in a line wherein production costs are so much more.

regardless of shard parts on the show models, (seriously only the arms are the same on them, and if you really think the tarantulus model was "shaped" into blackarachnia, then you never heard the story of how her character model was invented.) the spider designs on both of them were radically different, although I could see how her spider mode could have been reshaped from tarantulus. BA's abdomen was more rounded, thicker and and bulbous. it was shorther then tarantulus' though. she also had longer skinnier legs. only the head and pedipalps are the same, with different textures and sizes applied (tarantulus' was bigger then hers). and since this line is making such a big deal in making scales match, there's no way they can reuse any of this mold to make tarantulus. the build would have to be completely different to pull off his wider stockier, hunched over and shorter form.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020934)
Posted by Darth Zax on May 8th, 2019 @ 4:08pm CDT

Hello, your petty discussion is kind of annoying.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020935)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 8th, 2019 @ 4:52pm CDT

Late to party as always, but wow, that is a pretty figure.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020938)
Posted by Burn on May 8th, 2019 @ 5:46pm CDT

Darth Zax wrote:Hello, your petty discussion is kind of annoying.

Cool story bro, but it's on topic, your comment isn't.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020941)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2019 @ 6:20pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode??

Why would they make two diffetent toys for an 80s lambo? Essentially the same alt mode??

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020944)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on May 8th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode??

Why would they make two diffetent toys for an 80s lambo? Essentially the same alt mode??

I think that marks the end of this argument

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020954)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 8th, 2019 @ 8:27pm CDT

Wow, the colors are just as gorgeous as I had hoped they would be!

Price point is a bit higher than I would have hoped, as I was hoping for $120 around MP-45. But still, I'll consider her when pre-orders go up.

But dang. talk about a heavy fall. MPM Megatron, Jazz AND MP Blackarachnia. That is a heavy MP year ender

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2020996)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2019 @ 6:48am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:But dang. talk about a heavy fall. MPM Megatron, Jazz AND MP Blackarachnia. That is a heavy MP year ender

You weren't needing those kidneys were you?
Wonder when TT will announce the next few mps :-?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021008)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2019 @ 9:36am CDT

Couple shots of her back reveal some texturing for her Spider Mode:

https://twitter.com/puchimablue/status/1126335793146896386

Only posting this one shot since it's the least blurry.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021020)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 9th, 2019 @ 12:30pm CDT

This just keeps getting better and better!

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021024)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT

Excellent, There is the rest of the Abdomen. As for whether the Spiders will be retools or brand new molds, time will tell.

As an aside, maybe it is just me, but after Blackarachnia, I really hope the next MP Beast Wars figure isn't Tigatron or Tarantulas. Waspinator or Rhinox perhaps?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021025)
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2019 @ 2:24pm CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Excellent, There is the rest of the Abdomen. As for whether the Spiders will be retools or brand new molds, time will tell.

As an aside, maybe it is just me, but after Blackarachnia, I really hope the next MP Beast Wars figure isn't Tigatron or Tarantulas. Waspinator or Rhinox perhaps?

I hope its terrorsaur.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021026)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:I hope its terrorsaur.

Terrorsaur is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Especially as I only had his Transmetal version back in the day. My thought would be, if the selections are made on character popularity (also perhaps that Takara wouldn't release three Predacons in a row) for who is most likely to be next. I don't think Terrorsaur has popularity over Rattrap or Waspinator, for example.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021027)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on May 9th, 2019 @ 2:43pm CDT

Blackarachnia looks pretty damned good in color. As said earlier, I hope there's not any issue like BW-Megatron.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021031)
Posted by Emerje on May 9th, 2019 @ 4:31pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode??

Why would they make two diffetent toys for an 80s lambo? Essentially the same alt mode??

This is a great point. In the spiders case not only are they not the same bot mode, but they aren't even the same beast mode. Saying they should be the same because they're both spiders would be like saying Bumblebee and Prowl should share parts because they're both cars.

People tend to also forget Cheetor and Tigatron have entirely different alt modes as well and just focus on their similar bot modes.

Personally I do hope Tigatron and Tarantulas are next just so we can put an end to the debates, speculations, and assumptions.

Emerje

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021044)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2019 @ 7:21pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:But dang. talk about a heavy fall. MPM Megatron, Jazz AND MP Blackarachnia. That is a heavy MP year ender

You weren't needing those kidneys were you?
Wonder when TT will announce the next few mps

I'm hoping we get a break from MP announcements for a bit. We already have 4 currently revealed and upcoming, we don't need to get too ahead of the horse

And wow, Blackarachnia looks clean from behind too! Coming out nicely

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021047)
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2019 @ 7:32pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Blackarachnia looks clean from behind too! Coming out nicely

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021082)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on May 10th, 2019 @ 7:41am CDT

MP-Blackarachnia-Beats-Mode.jpeg.jpg

Blackarachnia's beast mode looks great honestly

Here's the source

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021088)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:29am CDT

Now that the 2019 Shizuoka Hobby Show is open to the public, Takara has added the beast mode for their Transformers MP-46 Masterpiece Blackarachnia to their booth. We can see from the side angle that the bot mode was clearly the favoured mode, as has been the case for all Beast Wars MPs so far. Of course the minimal panels to hide the robot kibble means we do get a sleeker and less kibbly robot mode. We have an image of the back of the robot mode as well which shows she is quite clean there even though the beast mode kibble is there. To give you the most info possible, below the images are also a list of accessories and price.

From Transformers Overdrive:

From @puchimablue

Preorder starts on 15th
retail price : Yen 15000
release : November
package size : 165×85x240
1x Black Widow Body
1x Smile Parts
1x Screaming face parts
1x Poison Anchor
1x Anchor Missile
1x Visor
1x Visor cable
1x Cord
4x Spider Web Parts
1x TF power Base
1x ARM
1x Adapter A
1x Adapter B
1x Character card
1x User manual

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021089)
Posted by ThunderThruster on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:35am CDT

I hate to say it, but that beast-mode looks plain bad. I can see a lot of people who buy this are going to leave it in robot-mode.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021090)
Posted by angtre on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:36am CDT

Just as I feared. Still I do hope there is still a bit of mistransformation.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021091)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT

Yyyyeah, that looks a bit mistransformed.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021093)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:48am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Yyyyeah, that looks a bit mistransformed.

I am sure there is some mistransformation but not enough to suddenly make the legs disappear. Remember who everyone was 100% certain MP 45 had to be mistransformed?

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021094)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2019 @ 8:52am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Yyyyeah, that looks a bit mistransformed.

I am sure there is some mistransformation but not enough to suddenly make the legs disappear. Remember who everyone was 100% certain MP 45 had to be mistransformed?

Oh, it ain't the robot legs I mean, I mean all the panels unconnected and the squashed look of the spider body and the robot arms not quite angled right/tucked away properly and the connector pieces for the spider legs misaligned, and...

Know what? They really weren't even trying to transform it right, were they? #-o

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021097)
Posted by mooncake623 on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:34am CDT

Is MP-46 going to include that base or are we expected to steal it from Dinobot again....

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021098)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:38am CDT

mooncake623 wrote:Is MP-46 going to include that base or are we expected to steal it from Dinobot again....

everything is written in the article

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021099)
Posted by Randomhero on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:38am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Yyyyeah, that looks a bit mistransformed.

I am sure there is some mistransformation but not enough to suddenly make the legs disappear. Remember who everyone was 100% certain MP 45 had to be mistransformed?
Oh, it ain't the robot legs I mean, I mean all the panels unconnected and the squashed look of the spider body and the robot arms not quite angled right/tucked away properly and the connector pieces for the spider legs misaligned, and...

Know what? They really weren't even trying to transform it right, were they?

This is Takara not hasbro. They don’t display stuff mistransformed. That’s her alt mode.

Everyone said the same about Bumblebee 2.0 and guess what? That was bumblebee 2.0 and this is Black Arachnia

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021100)
Posted by Randomhero on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:39am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Is MP-46 going to include that base or are we expected to steal it from Dinobot again....

everything is written in the article

Shhhhh no one reads those they just look at photos

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021101)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:46am CDT

She's a butterbug. Everything looks good but her bug. :-D

Seriously I'm getting it just for the robot mode, unless I have a different version (such as shadow panther) my MPs pretty much stay displayed in their robot modes anyway.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021102)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:47am CDT

I think it looks fine. A bit mistransformed in the head area, where it looks as though the robot mode arms are meant to connect to the beast head and maybe fell loose, but I mean come on. What they’ve accomplished is nothing short of amazing, once again.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021103)
Posted by mooncake623 on May 10th, 2019 @ 9:51am CDT

Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Is MP-46 going to include that base or are we expected to steal it from Dinobot again....

everything is written in the article

Shhhhh no one reads those they just look at photos

truth

Also I was trying to make a point that they didn't include one with Megatron and am still not happy with that.

This should come with 2 bases... just saying.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021105)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on May 10th, 2019 @ 10:21am CDT

oh NO

That’s just... that’s just awful. Our only hope that this is mistransformed, it sort of seems that way, especially around the back abdomen and the way the spider legs are positioned on the arm.

Let’s pray, because the bot mode on her is just so amazing.

Re: MP-46 Blackarachnia said to have MSRP above 130 USD (2021106)
Posted by megamanfan on May 10th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT

oh lord. maybe it'd be accurate if she was squahsed by a rock in beast mode, but good lord man. that takara remold of the animated figure looked better.

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