MP-05 Megatron seized by Australian Customs

You know what I find most insulting that I can go out and buy a legitimate hand gun with less trouble then I can a unmodified toy that is meant for collectors. Heck I can probably find one for cheaper at that even.

Silverbolt wrote:You know what I find most insulting that I can go out and buy a legitimate hand gun with less trouble then I can a unmodified toy that is meant for collectors.

Nicely put!

Yes, and remember criminals always get their weaponry from legitimate sources.

oh bloody hell

Oddly enough, the one pictured is CAPPED. Lol, so, do I have to go down to the coppers now to get permission to buy my Semi Automatic toy gun that shoots, air?

Silverbolt wrote:You know what I find most insulting that I can go out and buy a legitimate hand gun with less trouble then I can a unmodified toy that is meant for collectors. Heck I can probably find one for cheaper at that even.

Where? Have you ever tried to buy a handgun? If you walk into a store that has an MP-5, you can buy it instantly with no fuss by handing money to a register jockey. If you buy it on the internet, you have to wait for it to be shipped to you. And, God forbid, you MIGHT just have to suffer the thought that someone besides the hundreds of people at the factory might touch your figure to apply an easily removed orange cap.

To buy a legitimate handgun, you need to fill out an application; wait three to seven days (depending on the state law, all the while allowing hundreds of government workers (and we all know if anyone hires the most honest, best and brightest employees, it's our government)) before you can even pick up the item, IF you can get it; apply for a concealed carry permit to take it in your car with you; buy trigger locks and a gun safe so that your idiot kid* doesn't kill little Timmy when he comes over to play.

But yeah, it's so much easier to get a legitimate real gun than a toy one.

*Idiot kid is an expression and does not directly desribe the offspring of anyone on this or any other website.

why does it say that the movie is coming out june 28th in australia?

^ 'cos it is

That's weird I had no problem getting mine.

Good thing I don't live in Australia. I do however, live in the US. No prob though, I easily owned that stupid cap.

I hope those weren't any of the Megatrons that 'TransfigureToys' ordered. I am still waiting for mine to arrive with not much luck in getting a helpful response from Transfig. Did anyone else order from TransfigureToys.com? I was expecting to get it 6 weeks ago,... They said they had all the paper work, so lets hope it wasn't their Megatron's that were confiscated. Anyone got any light of the situation?

Jon Potter needs to lay off the Foster's

I feel sorry the people living in Australia. It seems like a lot of work to get permission from the State police. It probably means documents, weeks of waiting, and so on.

And yet, criminals get their hands on automatic weapons easier than collectors get their hands on a toy. Oh the irony.

If I could go back to the 80's when that kid aimed a Megatron at the cops, I'd punch him in the face before he could do it.

Glad I got mine from BBTS, seeing all of the problems that are starting to come up (eBay, etc.). Plus, the cap came out easily. Of course, I don't exactly live in Austrailia...

And yet Transfigure Toys had no problems getting their shipment through and then forwarding one on to me in another state.

Simple fact is this. Customs seems to be doing different things from state to state. Some are seizing, some aren't.

I love the "comparison" photo they have. MP-05 is so much bigger than a real P-38, I have a hard time believing any cop would confuse two.

Also they did a good photoshop on that article making it look like they were the same size.
Kids still point toy guns at cops. http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_3401319&cid=0

and here i was betting the first seizer would be in the us

Actually Silverbolt, in Australia it is much harder to go out and get a real gun than it is in the US, it takes literally weeks, and you need to fill out a multitude of forms for different areas of government, you need to have it registerd, and own a license, and pay up to thousands of dollars before you can legally get one. This is because of a Shooting Rampage in Tasmania that occurred just over 11 years ago. Guns laws were severely tightened, as a direct result.

Anyone else notice at how they have shrunk the image of MP Megatron down so it looks comparable in size to the actual Handgun? I expect no less but this kind of dodgy reporting from NineMSN.

First off, when a cop sees a weapon brandished, they're instinct is "gun!" and shoot, not "Is that really a p-38?"

Second are the people complaining about the Aussie customs laws Aussies themselves? While I think access to firearms may be a bit easier in Austrailia than Europe, I don't think they have the relative ease of obtaining a firearm you have in most U.S. states. Sorry this is a drag to our action figure hobby, but in the big picture, not as sore a deal as some folks are weezing about it.

i_amtrunks wrote:Anyone else notice at how they have shrunk the image of MP Megatron down so it looks comparable in size to the actual Handgun? I expect no less but this kind of dodgy reporting from the Australian Media.

Fixxxed.

You dont cure the symptoms, you cure the cancer. COuld it be that toy gusn are not the problem but that the Culture of Violence generated by a ever increasingly stupid populous is the problem....no. Too easy.

Anyway, got mine. YIPPEE!

Burn wrote:Fixxxed.

Thanks
Alkthough it was a nice change not to have a "news" story not about Mundine or Britney for once...

Also I think the reason why so many are being nabbed in NSW is because NSW needs the $$$ from people having to get all the paperwork and licenses more than any other state.

For people who couldn't pass the Police academy exams, Customs Officers sure can stuff up so many people...

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Jon Potter needs to lay off the Foster's

We don't drink that crap. Thats why we export it.

Fanatical_Magnus wrote:I love the "comparison" photo they have. MP-05 is so much bigger than a real P-38, I have a hard time believing any cop would confuse two.

I think it's harder to recognize than you think.

MP Megatron is 3/4 scale larger than a Walter P-38. The G1 Megatron is 3/4 smaller than a real one. Side by side you will notice the difference. But out on the street it's different.

If you are a cop standing 25 feet away from a suspect with a gun pointed at you - head on, you would have only a split second to make a decision if it's fake.

Bartrim wrote:

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Jon Potter needs to lay off the Foster's

We don't drink that crap. Thats why we export it.

Quote of the day.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:

Bartrim wrote:

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Jon Potter needs to lay off the Foster's

We don't drink that crap. Thats why we export it.

Quote of the day.

Thank you

Damn. Its not right when its more easy to buy a real gun that can kill people than it is to buy a fake one that is oversized and will be on a shelf in robot mode collecting dust. And that also has an orange tip. This world is fucked up.

Good thing I have 2 MP Megs unmoddified that I got right here in the U.S.

If I could go back to the 80's when that kid aimed a Megatron at the cops, I'd punch him in the face before he could do it.

Actually it was a 10 year od wearing a Laser Tag vest with the Laser Tag gun in hand in Chicago (I think) in broad daylight, if memory serves me correctly. And Laser Tag looked about as real as a 4 gallon Super Soaker. Cop literally jumped and blamed the toy. No crimes or accidents with an actual Transformer that spring to mind but it really wouldn't shock me.

Want to blame someone blame congress. Also blame those stupid martyr's like that kid at Virginia Tech. I mean they should reissue G1 Megs here in the states because it's a lot smaller than a real Walther P-38. And from what you guys claim about Masterpiece Megs is larger than a Walther P-38.

What a joke! The Australians are more sillier than even the Americans. Mp Megatron comes in robot mode in the box ,and as shown in the pic it has an orange plug attached. The thing is way bigger than a normal size p-38. Even the older one being smaller looks more realistic with the chrome. Mp Megatron doesn't even have chrome.

Well that sucks, us NZ'ers can get them in without asking nicely first.
Why all the bloody fuss and bother over a bloody toy is beyond me really, yeah people could mistake it for a real gun (but I really doubt it), but really what nut case of a TF collector would wonder round in the open with him in gun mode!

That and the gun mode is huge, anyone can tell by just the sheer size that its not a real gun! [/RANT]

1337W422102 wrote:

Silverbolt wrote:You know what I find most insulting that I can go out and buy a legitimate hand gun with less trouble then I can a unmodified toy that is meant for collectors.

Nicely put!

I could not agree more.

Just glad I got mine...over a month ago. Ha ha ha

1337W422102, your sig kicks so much ass. Very original. Love the expression on Marx...

allisonaxe wrote:why does it say that the movie is coming out june 28th in australia?

Because they made a mistake. It's out on the 29th

Oh, and PENIS! There goes my hopes of getting a Materpiece Megatron. Farewell my friend. I shall miss you dearly.

Fireblast wrote:Want to blame someone blame congress. Also blame those stupid martyr's like that kid at Virginia Tech. I mean they should reissue G1 Megs here in the states because it's a lot smaller than a real Walther P-38. And from what you guys claim about Masterpiece Megs is larger than a Walther P-38.

Contrary to popular belief, Congress doesn't make laws in Australia.

As Trunksy pointed out earlier, gun laws in Australia were tightened extremely over a decade ago because of the Port Arthur massacre (it holds the record for the number of people killed). Pretty much all States and Territories fell into line with Federal Government rules.

The result saw a major increase in memberships for gun clubs. Locally it was a headache for a lot of farmers as before they had their rifles to deal with feral pigs, now they need to renew their license every couple of years and justify why they need their rifle (which in the end turns out to be pointless if your farm backs onto a National Park and little piggy runs to hide in it)

So please, let's not hear the moaning about gun laws in America, this is about MP Megatron in Australia and why Customs have cracked down.

So basically, what they are trying to say is, that in Australia, you need to ask for a licence for MP-05.

I find this rather amusing. However, beats the orange plug deal. Or do you guiys have that issue as well?

It’s not an issue at all, one shipment in NSW got checked and that’s all. I haven’t see it mentioned on any sites that people have had problems getting him and the store that I got mine sure haven’t had any problems.

We also don’t have to worry about the orange tip so the pic in that story is obviously from a US source or just some random one.

I feel really sorry for you guys. All that time and money wasted getting a freaking toy with a plug registered

I had a heart attack reading this, luckily I checked my emails straight away and low and behold an email from Transfigure toys saying my MP-Megs is on the way up to me. what a relief.

Also really agree with you on the fix there Burn. Australian Media is like...nope, nothing I'm out of metaphors for saying horse shit. It's been a long day...

And contrary to popular belief this isn't amusing at all. I like to know my $165 action figure is safe and sound.

My thoughts go out to the people here in AUS still waiting for their Megs and shat themselves over this news.

Anubiz wrote:It’s not an issue at all, one shipment in NSW got checked and that’s all. I haven’t see it mentioned on any sites that people have had problems getting him and the store that I got mine sure haven’t had any problems.

There was a story (not sure how reliable it was) about a store in WA getting their shipment of 80 Megatrons seized.

Stories seem to be varying from state to state. One guy on TAAU got his direct (I think from HLJ) shipped to Victoria and it was seized whereas TFT who are also based in Victoria had no problems.

How much does that suck!

Seriously, besides it being oversized, there is no way this thing could be used or converted into a weapon.

Fanatical_Magnus wrote:I love the "comparison" photo they have. MP-05 is so much bigger than a real P-38, I have a hard time believing any cop would confuse two.

I was thinking that same thing back when I first heard all the customs issues to begin with before the MP Megs even came out. What good trained police officer could confuse that? But then again ..

No problem getting real deal looking collectibles. Go figure?

Good thing I live in the US.

Wow, and I thought America was bad with their wierd Toy gun Laws, but you guys in Australia have to register with the gistappo in order to obtain a Megatron toy...(Start fake German Accent) Papers!! papers Please!! Actchung!! you are not allowed to purchase theese weapon, filth!!! zeeg Hail!! ( End Fake German Accent) ..Confiscation is afoot...Do you also need papers to travel from city to city...?? Damn...

Gahh, people are so F'ing stupid/overly cautious. The bloody thing is packed in robot mode for cripes sake. I'm sorry for all the Australian fans who had theirs seized.

skywarp-2 wrote:Wow, and I thought America was bad with their wierd Toy gun Laws, but you guys in Australia have to register with the gistappo in order to obtain a Megatron toy...(Start fake German Accent) Papers!! papers Please!! Actchung!! you are not allowed to purchase theese weapon, filth!!! zeeg Hail!! ( End Fake German Accent) ..Confiscation is afoot...Do you also need papers to travel from city to city...?? Damn...

You know, I should be offended you compare my government to the Nazi party, but I was thinking about things before and they really are doing a damn good job of cracking down on our freedoms.

Gun laws are extremely strict here, personally that doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is the censorship. It's pretty hard to get some damn good porn, but that aside, they do NOT have a adult rating for games, meaning the highest rating for computer games is MA15+ and anything that doesn't meet that level is simply banned.

And then there's the attempt by the Federal government to control the internet (I know, next to impossible but they're having a go anyway). The latest idea is to have ISP's monitor your downloads and if they find you downloading copyrighted material (eg, music) then your internet and telephone services will be cut. Yeah, sure, make the ISP's into cyber-police.

Anyhoo ... couple of links.

Customs official notice
Customs media release (basically what was reported before)

Burn wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Wow, and I thought America was bad with their wierd Toy gun Laws, but you guys in Australia have to register with the gistappo in order to obtain a Megatron toy...(Start fake German Accent) Papers!! papers Please!! Actchung!! you are not allowed to purchase theese weapon, filth!!! zeeg Hail!! ( End Fake German Accent) ..Confiscation is afoot...Do you also need papers to travel from city to city...?? Damn...

You know, I should be offended you compare my government to the Nazi party, but I was thinking about things before and they really are doing a damn good job of cracking down on our freedoms.

Gun laws are extremely strict here, personally that doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is the censorship. It's pretty hard to get some damn good porn, but that aside, they do NOT have a adult rating for games, meaning the highest rating for computer games is MA15+ and anything that doesn't meet that level is simply banned.

And then there's the attempt by the Federal government to control the internet (I know, next to impossible but they're having a go anyway). The latest idea is to have ISP's monitor your downloads and if they find you downloading copyrighted material (eg, music) then your internet and telephone services will be cut. Yeah, sure, make the ISP's into cyber-police.

Anyhoo ... couple of links.

Customs official notice
Customs media release (basically what was reported before)

Sorry to hear that. It stinks when your personal freedoms get restricted. And it's scary when the government establishes watch groups like Big Brother.

I feel for you guys too. I wish the governments of the world would be a little lax on us collectors