More Than Meets The Eye #50 Variant Sakamoto / Coller Cover

You know I prefer Megatron this way instead of just being killed off at the end of the war it opens a lot more interesting story potential.


Plus I like it when there is another Decepticon leader it keeps the status quo fresh even if that leader is Galvatron right now it is kinda refreshing since most recent Galvatron's have simply been a super powered Megatron with a new paint job and not his own character.

Deadput wrote:You know I prefer Megatron this way instead of just being killed off at the end of the war it opens a lot more interesting story potential.


Plus I like it when there is another Decepticon leader it keeps the status quo fresh even if that leader is Galvatron right now it is kinda refreshing since most recent Galvatron's have simply been a super powered Megatron with a new paint job and not his own character.

I totally agree. The past 2 years of IDW with Megatron as an autobot is more interesting than what has ever come before with the character but I think that can be said for most of IDW. They've broken out of the box with the transformers mythos and just really shown that it's not all just black and white, good vs evil and I personally don't ever want to see that Decepticon Symbol on IDW megatron again.

Randomhero wrote:
I totally agree. The past 2 years of IDW with Megatron as an autobot is more interesting than what has ever come before with the character but I think that can be said for most of IDW. They've broken out of the box with the transformers mythos and just really shown that it's not all just black and white, good vs evil and I personally don't ever want to see that Decepticon Symbol on IDW megatron again.

I don't want to see him become a Decepticon either but it is likely to happen knowing the comic industry and their history with making previous comic issues irrelevant in order to do some big issue to bring in the dough.


Something like "Megatron restarts the war with the Autobots and Earth with Starscream and a reborn Shockwave by his side?"

Randomhero wrote:

Deadput wrote:You know I prefer Megatron this way instead of just being killed off at the end of the war it opens a lot more interesting story potential.


Plus I like it when there is another Decepticon leader it keeps the status quo fresh even if that leader is Galvatron right now it is kinda refreshing since most recent Galvatron's have simply been a super powered Megatron with a new paint job and not his own character.

I totally agree. The past 2 years of IDW with Megatron as an autobot is more interesting than what has ever come before with the character but I think that can be said for most of IDW. They've broken out of the box with the transformers mythos and just really shown that it's not all just black and white, good vs evil and I personally don't ever want to see that Decepticon Symbol on IDW megatron again.

I am going to second this. IDW Megatron being an Autobot has broken so many rules it is unthinkable, but this is what the IDW-verse is all about, and that's why so far it has been my favorite. Megatron has worked so well as an Autobot and has truly encountered some situations making him look back and realize how wrong he went. I think we are past the point of no-return, and he is a bot for the rest of this universe. And I am good with that.

Deadput wrote:

Randomhero wrote:
I totally agree. The past 2 years of IDW with Megatron as an autobot is more interesting than what has ever come before with the character but I think that can be said for most of IDW. They've broken out of the box with the transformers mythos and just really shown that it's not all just black and white, good vs evil and I personally don't ever want to see that Decepticon Symbol on IDW megatron again.

I don't want to see him become a Decepticon either but it is likely to happen knowing the comic industry and their history with making previous comic issues irrelevant in order to do some big issue to bring in the dough.


Something like "Megatron restarts the war with the Autobots and Earth with Starscream and a reborn Shockwave by his side?"

Ya know I have full faith that that won't happen or it won't for a vey vey long time. This isn't 5 years ago or even 10 years ago when Megatron had to be the main villain. Even the new cartoon has managed to make a good show without having megatron -and to an extent- Optimus being the main central focus. Hasbro knows how well the comics are doing and the fact that MTMTE is winning awards lets me believe that they know what they're doing and will allowed to do what they want. John taking over from Andy Schmidt is in -in my opinion- the best thing that he ever happened in transformers comics.

The fact that we are in a time where tracks and needlenose are brothers, Soundwave is preaching a bunch of hippie peace talk, prowl is quite possible the worst autobot to ever wear that symbol and Megatron is a freaking autobot and starscream is ruler of the entire planet cybertron shows us we are living in an insane time.

Could Megatron become a decepticon again? Sure. Will starscream and shockwave join back up with him. No. Starscream will be long dead before that happens and Shockwave was never technically a decepticon so I don't see that happening but if it does, than we better hope the people behind that insanity is James and John because I believe they could convince us of it.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Deadput wrote:You know I prefer Megatron this way instead of just being killed off at the end of the war it opens a lot more interesting story potential.


Plus I like it when there is another Decepticon leader it keeps the status quo fresh even if that leader is Galvatron right now it is kinda refreshing since most recent Galvatron's have simply been a super powered Megatron with a new paint job and not his own character.

I totally agree. The past 2 years of IDW with Megatron as an autobot is more interesting than what has ever come before with the character but I think that can be said for most of IDW. They've broken out of the box with the transformers mythos and just really shown that it's not all just black and white, good vs evil and I personally don't ever want to see that Decepticon Symbol on IDW megatron again.

I am going to second this. IDW Megatron being an Autobot has broken so many rules it is unthinkable, but this is what the IDW-verse is all about, and that's why so far it has been my favorite. Megatron has worked so well as an Autobot and has truly encountered some situations making him look back and realize how wrong he went. I think we are past the point of no-return, and he is a bot for the rest of this universe. And I am good with that.

Yeah I don't think he could even if he wanted to. The decepticons hate him more than everyone now with one part now following Tarn, another wanting to take over everything with Galvatron and and other wanting to be left alone in peace with Soundwave. It's crazy stuff like this that makes me wish the DJD would be brought over to Not-RID because I want Tarn to meet Galavtron and see how that would plays out.

Galvatron is leader of the decepticons but he's only leader of like 20 guys. He's not leader of the entire decepticon faction and that's something I want to see played out.

Given the recent MTMTE trend, I am fully convinced Megs will not go back. He has found a way and he does not want to go back. They did an amazing job of making him peaceful and then forcefully bad basically, and now his path back has been too good and too convincing to go back.

And with Shockwave dying a good guy once more, I doubt he and Bee will ever come back, and if they do, Shockwave would not be a con, as he only used them for his own ore needs. and Starscream has finally succeeded, and with him and Windblade set up for a long run, I don't see the status quo swinging back to what it was anytime soon, if at all, especially with John and James. They know what they are doing, and the fact that hasbro said yes to Rewinds last words being "I love you" speaks volumes. not to mention all the awards MTMTE is getting, and the fact that it is a trending topic in social media.

It will not go back, and I don't want it to go back. It is too utterly unique to fall back

Randomhero wrote:
Yeah I don't think he could even if he wanted to. The decepticons hate him more than everyone now with one part now following Tarn, another wanting to take over everything with Galvatron and and other wanting to be left alone in peace with Soundwave. It's crazy stuff like this that makes me wish the DJD would be brought over to Not-RID because I want Tarn to meet Galavtron and see how that would plays out.

Galvatron is leader of the decepticons but he's only leader of like 20 guys. He's not leader of the entire decepticon faction and that's something I want to see played out.

Tarn meeting Galvs would be interesting, but right now, I cannot wait for the DJD v. Lost Light battle to come. For those who wanted war, it is, but with completely different places and characters. And Tarn has a significant power base there, so it could be very big. I think James said on facebook that the Dying of the Light storyline would be 122 pages by the time it is done, which is huge. And I really think this will bring many storylines to an end or a conclusion: Brainstorm, Megatron, Rodimus, Hoist and Trailcutter, all kinds of stories to use. Not to mention how I truly do believe the protectobots and Ratchet and Drift shall return, and the whole crew shall be united again by the end

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Given the recent MTMTE trend, I am fully convinced Megs will not go back. He has found a way and he does not want to go back. They did an amazing job of making him peaceful and then forcefully bad basically, and now his path back has been too good and too convincing to go back.

And with Shockwave dying a good guy once more, I doubt he and Bee will ever come back, and if they do, Shockwave would not be a con, as he only used them for his own ore needs. and Starscream has finally succeeded, and with him and Windblade set up for a long run, I don't see the status quo swinging back to what it was anytime soon, if at all, especially with John and James. They know what they are doing, and the fact that hasbro said yes to Rewinds last words being "I love you" speaks volumes. not to mention all the awards MTMTE is getting, and the fact that it is a trending topic in social media.

It will not go back, and I don't want it to go back. It is too utterly unique to fall back

It's Bumblebee he always comes back.


We probably said the same thing about Ironhide and look what happened to him.

My only problem with Megatron being an autobot is that, so far, not much has really been done with him. Sure there have been interesting reactions to him being on board, the rest of the crew hating him, some actively trying to get rid of him through morally questionable means, but there hasn't been much done with Megatron himself and how he's handling all this.

Even after elegant chaos when the main players of the crew, more or less, unanimously decided it would have been better for him not to have been born, even to the detriment of cybertronians as a whole, Megatron didn't do anything plot-wise with that revelation. Probably the best thing with him so far were his interactions with Trail Guy, and the two Slaughterhouse issues. Of course slaughterhouse is over, and we know the trail breaker stuff probably won't go anywhere because he got a throwaway death so Rodimus could briefly make Megs feel bad about himself some more.

There have been reaction shots from him and more subtle things, but nothing overt while the rest of the crew goes about their shenanigans. Really, he acts as Rodimus' straight-man more than anything else, which used to be Magnus' job.

I hope there's a paradigm shift soon and that MTMTE proves me wrong. I'm rather tired of Megatron just kind of being there.

im a little confused if megatron is good now then how does galvatron come into existence
or are they two seperate beings

While I can understand your position, Megatron has been hit hard, but they have not showed it very outwardly. When he found out in issue 38 the universe would be better without him, he was basically not seen by the rest of the crew for several issues, only appearing with Ravage and not really saying anything. and then the shock of the necrobot's planet and all the lives he is responsible for. It hasn't been outward, more subtle, but with issue 49 and then with dying of the light, I think we will finally see those things come out more

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:
Yeah I don't think he could even if he wanted to. The decepticons hate him more than everyone now with one part now following Tarn, another wanting to take over everything with Galvatron and and other wanting to be left alone in peace with Soundwave. It's crazy stuff like this that makes me wish the DJD would be brought over to Not-RID because I want Tarn to meet Galavtron and see how that would plays out.

Galvatron is leader of the decepticons but he's only leader of like 20 guys. He's not leader of the entire decepticon faction and that's something I want to see played out.

Tarn meeting Galvs would be interesting, but right now, I cannot wait for the DJD v. Lost Light battle to come. For those who wanted war, it is, but with completely different places and characters. And Tarn has a significant power base there, so it could be very big. I think James said on facebook that the Dying of the Light storyline would be 122 pages by the time it is done, which is huge. And I really think this will bring many storylines to an end or a conclusion: Brainstorm, Megatron, Rodimus, Hoist and Trailcutter, all kinds of stories to use. Not to mention how I truly do believe the protectobots and Ratchet and Drift shall return, and the whole crew shall be united again by the end

That's only 6 issues honestly. Same as a standard trade for the most part.

Yeah the dying of light seems like it's the DJDs swan song. It for all intended purposes should be their final appearance so that chapter of MTMTE can be put to bed. Hope it's good! Don't really want a text story epilogue like remain in light got. I know some liked it but it just furiated me. Little less of people standing in a cell for 3 issues and maybe that could have actually been drawn in the book in my opinion.

Ultra Markus wrote:im a little confused if megatron is good now then how does galvatron come into existence
or are they two seperate beings

In IDW, they are 2 separate guys. Galvatron is an ancient being/barbarian whom was stuck in a dead universe for 6 millions years and now has taken control of the cons post Megs, who was constructed cold/AKA built around I wanna say 4.4 million years ago. Unicron has not existed in this universe yet, only really getting 2 very offhanded mentions that didn't even use his name, just a mention of Primus' opposite, and Primus hasn't even been shown to be real here either

Ultra Markus wrote:im a little confused if megatron is good now then how does galvatron come into existence
or are they two seperate beings

Separate. Galvatron is an ancient Cybertronian in IDW 10 million years old maybe older. We don't really know.

Ultra Markus wrote:im a little confused if megatron is good now then how does galvatron come into existence
or are they two seperate beings

Galvatron is a separate guy who is actually older then Megatron since Galvatron is some Cybertronian barbarian from Nova Prime's time.



He is also co leading the Decepticons right now alongside Soundwave while Soundwave seems to want to lead more peacefully Galvatron is just being antagonistic and trying to slaughter people right now.


So the two groups are Soundwave's and Galvatron's.

Randomhero wrote:That's only 6 issues honestly. Same as a standard trade for the most part.

Yeah the dying of light seems like it's the DJDs swan song. It for all intended purposes should be their final appearance so that chapter of MTMTE can be put to bed. Hope it's good! Don't really want a text story epilogue like remain in light got. I know some liked it but it just furiated me. Little less of people standing in a cell for 3 issues and maybe that could have actually been drawn in the book in my opinion.

In this case, since issue 50 is a double issue, it is 4 regular issues and 1 double, so it is 5. And I really want it to be good too! There has been a good bit of leadup, and I really want it to go good places. And While this will may be the finale of the DJD, somehow I feel it will not be the end. Look at Star Saber and Tyrest and Pharma. We thought it could be the end, and for now it has been, but they are all still out there with some sort of role to play, and Roberts can perform some awesome card tricks, so we'll see!

More than most though, I want Hoist to kill Kaon to avenge his friend/roommmate. and I want Defensor (Rook included) to show up to be drawn by Milne bashing cons around and putting a huge exclamation point on things

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:and I want Defensor (Rook included) to show up to be drawn by Milne bashing cons around and putting a huge exclamation point on things

I really think (and want) the Protectobots to show up at the last minute to save the day and win the battle for the Lost Light crew versus Deathsaurus' and Tarn's troops.

I can see them showing up just as Rodimus or Megatron are going to be killed, then, to the horror of the Decepticons, combining and just brutalizing all the bad guys.

Then everyone afterword would be like "Whoa, since when were you guys able to combine?!?!"

Tyrant fits him better.

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I really think (and want) the Protectobots to show up at the last minute to save the day and win the battle for the Lost Light crew versus Deathsaurus' and Tarn's troops.

I can see them showing up just as Rodimus or Megatron are going to be killed, then, to the horror of the Decepticons, combining and just brutalizing all the bad guys.

Then everyone afterword would be like "Whoa, since when were you guys able to combine?!?!"

That would be pretty sweet. I feel if they do show up, it would be just in time to end it all, or at least turn the tide

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: I want Defensor (Rook included) to show up to be drawn by Milne bashing cons around and putting a huge exclamation point on things

Yesssssssssss

I mean honestly we really need him, Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Blackjack to have more screen/page time otherwise people are never going to like them as much as they could.


They all have great potential Rook for example could be an Autobot who was always guarding things and was never able to fight in the battlefield which would make him a naive by the book officer similar but not exactly like Rid Strongarm's portrayal Rook would not be as appreciated by his teammates outside of Hot Spot who would be a mentor like figure to him which brings another point.


I really want to see a combiner team who has to learn to work together or members who are not going to automatically be equals similar to how the G1 cartoon Arielbots were at the start.

My letter to Roberts for issue 50 actually included Rook and wanting him to be a character and be brought in, so here's hoping!

He really does have potential. I really want him to be fleshed out and included. He really is a great figure with great potential that shouldn't be wasted

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My letter to Roberts for issue 50 actually included Rook and wanting him to be a character and be brought in, so here's hoping!

He really does have potential. I really want him to be fleshed out and included. He really is a great figure with great potential that shouldn't be wasted

Don't forget he has one of the most unique head and hand designs ever on a figure.


I don't want him to end up like the Transformers Universe characters and be forgotten


Rest in Pepperoni Outsider you awesome teleporting hippie bus.

Randomhero wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:im a little confused if megatron is good now then how does galvatron come into existence
or are they two seperate beings

Separate. Galvatron is an ancient Cybertronian in IDW 10 million years old maybe older. We don't really know.

This may not matter much, if at all, but when the orginal Galvatron toy came out he was listed as Trypticon's City Commander with the tech specs if I recall right. No relation to Megatron mentioned.

Megatron/Galvatron being one and the same person was thanks to the release of the animated "Transformers: The Movie" that came out in the 1980s.

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:and I want Defensor (Rook included) to show up to be drawn by Milne bashing cons around and putting a huge exclamation point on things

I really think (and want) the Protectobots to show up at the last minute to save the day and win the battle for the Lost Light crew versus Deathsaurus' and Tarn's troops.

I can see them showing up just as Rodimus or Megatron are going to be killed, then, to the horror of the Decepticons, combining and just brutalizing all the bad guys.

Then everyone afterword would be like "Whoa, since when were you guys able to combine?!?!"

As cool as that would be, I kinda don't want Defensor to become a deus ex machina.

The idea of Megatron renouncing the Decepticons seems be a thread drifting through the whole line. At the end of the TRANSFORMERS PRIME:PREDACONS RISING,after being freed from Unicron's control. Megatron found he didn't like being used against his will,and went off to rethink his life.

I've really enjoyed seeing Megatron like this. Hell, it's true of all their G1 comics. They've really broken the old mould and it's been really fun seeing where they're taking it. I'm glad to have Galvatron and Cyclonus be their own bots again, instead of reformatted older characters.

I really like the differences and the fact that Megs needing to die a warlord who regrets nothing is not the way it all needs to go. that and he and Rodimus make a great duo (and Magnus for the trio)

Cyclonus has also gone through a lot of development especially in mtmte (yes, I know it retconed some earlier stuff but I prefer it this way)

ZeroWolf wrote:Cyclonus has also gone through a lot of development especially in mtmte (yes, I know it retconed some earlier stuff but I prefer it this way)

I prefer this version of Cyclonus too. I have really come to love him as a character. He is great and I love his religious and partriotic parts.

IDW Transformers artist Alex Milne has taken to Twitter to do some (well-deserved) showing off, with the 50th issue of both ongoing finally in the bag: both The Transformers and More Than Meets the Eye have featured variant covers by Milne and Josh Perez, and we now get the see the full interlocked image! Check it out mirrored below, in both lineart and coloured versions.

So much goodness here. I love this. It is so big too!

Beautiful

But who are they lining up to fight against?

please tell me this will be a large poster. i would frame it and hang it. one of the coolest ones i have seen since the all optimus and all megatron posters.

ZeroWolf wrote:But who are they lining up to fight against?

Humans, Galvatron, DJD, Galactic council, etc