More Teasers for IDW Transformers vs Visionaries
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Much like the small panel and frame teasers we saw back in this story, the images we have this time are either single panel, covers, or partial pages, showing off both factions in the alleged versusness - if this is anything like Rom vs Transformers, expect the antagonism to shift in the series. Characters of note so far? Ironhide, Wheeljack and Breakdown on one side, Witterquick, Cravex, Leoric and Virulina on the other. Check them out below, and let us know what you make of this new series so far, if you'll be picking up the issues, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 2nd, 2017 @ 4:09am CST
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on December 2nd, 2017 @ 1:30pm CST
Posted by Va'al on December 3rd, 2017 @ 7:38am CST
The art, shown below in both lines and colour, sports the Fico Ossio redesign of Leoric plus the grumpy old truck Kup - sans his Action Man partner, sadly - with both almost wearing matching helmet-like headpieces, and some serious chin action from the Cybertronian. Check it out below, and stay with us as we spotlight more work from Cahill and Bennett throughout the series starting this month, alongside writer Magdalene Visaggio and artist Fico Ossio.
Posted by ThunderThruster on December 3rd, 2017 @ 2:53pm CST
I think I'll stick with the 80's Visionaries thanks.
Posted by Va'al on December 6th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CST
The series, which will follow on directly from the events in First Strike, sees a reimagining of a number of characters, including Leoric and Virulina, which we see in the pages below... about to face, or encounter, Kup and Ironhide! Check out the images below, let us know what you think, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub.
Transformers Vs. The Visionaries #1
Cybertron has been invaded, and the Transformers encounter unwelcome guests at the heart of their planet.
Written by: Magdalene Visaggio
Illustrated by: Fico Ossio
A Cover by: Fico Ossio
Posted by SG Roadbuster on December 6th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CST
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on December 6th, 2017 @ 2:19pm CST
Posted by snavej on December 6th, 2017 @ 2:19pm CST
I never got into Visionaries and I don't want to now, so I'll pass. The Transformers would crush these fleshies, just like they would crush almost anyone.
Posted by WreckerJack on December 6th, 2017 @ 3:35pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 6th, 2017 @ 3:44pm CST
I agree that many of the humans are a bit "Mary Sue" in these comics. Most TFs would win, easily
Also, I still don't like the new Leoric, for the save reasons I didn't like the new Matt Tracker. I'm all up for character development, new characters or characters changing jobs/positions of authority, but extensive changes with no reasons why, just for the sake of it seem to be insensitive to the source material and fans of the original show, aesthetic, etc.
Wake me up when Leoric looks like this: - http://visionaries.wikia.com/wiki/Leoric
Posted by Coptur on December 6th, 2017 @ 4:45pm CST
As with MASK this comes from Hasbro direct and IDW are happy to play the fall guy.
I think like with Marvel Transformers and GIJoe RAH they should try and continue the classic continuity in a limited series.
But ultimately I'm passing on IDW continuity until further notice.
As ever I'm happy for those that do still enjoy it.
Posted by ricemazter on December 7th, 2017 @ 1:29am CST
Was any of this explained in first strike? I didn't bother finishing it and I don't care about spoilers.
Posted by Va'al on December 7th, 2017 @ 2:55am CST
ricemazter wrote:Can someone explain to me what the premise of this series is? I get that the visionaries come from a world where science and technology isn't really a thing, so they need magic animal powers. Why are the transformers involved? Why isn't Kup hanging out with action man?
Was any of this explained in first strike? I didn't bother finishing it and I don't care about spoilers.
Yep, all explained in last issue of First Strike: Kreiger is actually Merklynn, and he uses the Talisman to 'terraform' Cybertron into New Prysmos. He only manages a little bit, but still - he wants to use it to remove technology and reinstate magic, blah blah blah. He also wakes up Unicron while he does it, because reasons.
Posted by snavej on December 7th, 2017 @ 6:19am CST
Va'al wrote:ricemazter wrote:Can someone explain to me what the premise of this series is? I get that the visionaries come from a world where science and technology isn't really a thing, so they need magic animal powers. Why are the transformers involved? Why isn't Kup hanging out with action man?
Was any of this explained in first strike? I didn't bother finishing it and I don't care about spoilers.
Yep, all explained in last issue of First Strike: Kreiger is actually Merklynn, and he uses the Talisman to 'terraform' Cybertron into New Prysmos. He only manages a little bit, but still - he wants to use it to remove technology and reinstate magic, blah blah blah. He also wakes up Unicron while he does it, because reasons.
The best reasons are 'reasons'. [Probably a quote from Donald Trump.]
This quote from The Simpsons via The Urban Dictionary seems appropriate for Visionaries:
'A wizard did it'
Phrase originating from the Simpsons, used in response to fans pointing out plot holes, continuity errors, and any mistakes the animators or writers may've made.
Voice Actor: "Whenever you see something strange with continuity, a wizard did it."
Fan: "But when-"
Voice Actor: "A wizard did it."
Posted by Va'al on December 7th, 2017 @ 6:31am CST
snavej wrote:This quote from The Simpsons via The Urban Dictionary seems appropriate for Visionaries:
'A wizard did it'
Phrase originating from the Simpsons, used in response to fans pointing out plot holes, continuity errors, and any mistakes the animators or writers may've made.
Voice Actor: "Whenever you see something strange with continuity, a wizard did it."
Fan: "But when-"
Voice Actor: "A wizard did it."
Slight tweak, if I may: A Hasbro wizard did it.
Their name is Orbsah. Obviously.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 7th, 2017 @ 6:40am CST
Va'al wrote:snavej wrote:This quote from The Simpsons via The Urban Dictionary seems appropriate for Visionaries:
'A wizard did it'
Phrase originating from the Simpsons, used in response to fans pointing out plot holes, continuity errors, and any mistakes the animators or writers may've made.
Voice Actor: "Whenever you see something strange with continuity, a wizard did it."
Fan: "But when-"
Voice Actor: "A wizard did it."
Slight tweak, if I may: A Hasbro wizard did it.
Their name is Orbsah. Obviously.
Just started watching "Agents of Shield", season 5, and they're taking about "magic" being responsible.
Seems legit.
Posted by ThunderThruster on December 7th, 2017 @ 7:44am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:
I agree that many of the humans are a bit "Mary Sue" in these comics. Most TFs would win, easily
Also, I still don't like the new Leoric, for the save reasons I didn't like the new Matt Tracker. I'm all up for character development, new characters or characters changing jobs/positions of authority, but extensive changes with no reasons why, just for the sake of it seem to be insensitive to the source material and fans of the original show, aesthetic, etc.
Wake me up when Leoric looks like this: - http://visionaries.wikia.com/wiki/Leoric
Well played sir.
You must be a carpenter as you've hit many nails square on the head.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 7th, 2017 @ 7:52am CST
Posted by Daniel Adkins on December 7th, 2017 @ 8:19am CST
Va'al wrote:snavej wrote:This quote from The Simpsons via The Urban Dictionary seems appropriate for Visionaries:
'A wizard did it'
Phrase originating from the Simpsons, used in response to fans pointing out plot holes, continuity errors, and any mistakes the animators or writers may've made.
Voice Actor: "Whenever you see something strange with continuity, a wizard did it."
Fan: "But when-"
Voice Actor: "A wizard did it."
Slight tweak, if I may: A Hasbro wizard did it.
Their name is Orbsah. Obviously.
Why always blame Hasbro when it was more likely an IDW decision considering they were the ones who came up with the Universe in the first place?
Posted by Va'al on December 7th, 2017 @ 1:53pm CST
Daniel Adkins wrote:Va'al wrote:snavej wrote:This quote from The Simpsons via The Urban Dictionary seems appropriate for Visionaries:
'A wizard did it'
Phrase originating from the Simpsons, used in response to fans pointing out plot holes, continuity errors, and any mistakes the animators or writers may've made.
Voice Actor: "Whenever you see something strange with continuity, a wizard did it."
Fan: "But when-"
Voice Actor: "A wizard did it."
Slight tweak, if I may: A Hasbro wizard did it.
Their name is Orbsah. Obviously.
Why always blame Hasbro when it was more likely an IDW decision considering they were the ones who came up with the Universe in the first place?
Because it's funnier..?
To me, anyway.
Posted by Va'al on December 9th, 2017 @ 12:57pm CST
The collected trade in the listing is currently priced at $12.11 (retail price $17.99), with a due release date of August 2018. We have a synopsis blurb, and a provisional cover (this may be confirmed at a later date, but it is currently identical to the issue #1 cover, lower banner with both franchises' logo included). The series itself should be starting shortly, with Magdalene Visaggio on writing duties, and Fico Ossio on interior art - check it out here!
A word of warning for those who want to go into the story entirely unaware of the potential plots: the blurb below does contain some minor spoilers on factions and allegiances between the Prysmos and Cybertron characters, to skip it to avoid them.
Cybertron has been invaded. The Transformers encounter unwelcome guests at the heart of their planet--and they may not have their hosts' best interests at heart.
Refugees from another world, the Visionaries' startling magical abilities could make them powerful allies... or dangerous enemies. It turns out there are some of each. When Virulina, leader of the Darkling Lords, discovers that the Transformers are vulnerable to magic, she uses that weakness to try and gain control of Cybertron! Leoric of the Spectral Knight teams up with Ironhide to stop her, but they quickly find themselves facing not just the Lords, but all of New Prysmos itself.
Posted by DeathReviews on December 9th, 2017 @ 1:07pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 9th, 2017 @ 3:36pm CST
Also, why not include some sort of connection between transforming? Biological beings using energy to transform into energon animals? Connections to Beast Wars/Machines? Battle Beasts?
Mind you, if IDW handled Battle Beasts, White Lio would be a female Jaguar in a pink wheelchair with the power to eat Transformers, or something.
Someone needs to do a scale, showing depictions of one character, or idea, drawn from "IDW" at the "far left" and "Kiss Players/Sikomofo" at the far right, with Marvel G1 and Dreamwave, etc somewhere in there, too". Then we can see where the balance is!
Posted by budmaloney on December 10th, 2017 @ 12:08am CST
Any way I guess getting a trade would be a better read than buying them individually. I was a bit lost reading First Strike, until I followed a reading order online to get the full story.
Basically the IDW Hasbrouniverse is season 3 of G1 cartoon. Humanity has caught up to the Cybertronians, there are many factions and the civil war as we knew it was over.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 10th, 2017 @ 1:42am CST
Posted by partholon on December 10th, 2017 @ 7:34am CST
DeathReviews wrote:I'm not up on what other media formats have been doing with the Visionaries, but wasn't "Darkstorm" the leader of the Darkling lords? Virulina never even had an action figure, they just kind of tossed her into the cartoon show so there could be a woman character on each team, right?
its because IDW have been chasing Marvel down the SJW rabbit hole.
im all for changes to update a property , but NOT for political motivated reasons and this has that stank all over it now.
i mean FFS did they learn nothing from the whole gi joe fiasco? i honestly havent felt this opposed to what their putting out since costa was writing the ongoing.
im out.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 10th, 2017 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by partholon on December 10th, 2017 @ 9:26am CST
with ryall back in the big seat ive got hope, but'll be months yet before the punters can tell as the previous regiemes output is still to be released.
a bit of diversity in thought couldnt go astray in the field though. its kinda scary how homogynised the authors are in terms of their world view.
they gotta do somthing though, they cant take another year like this. it was financially crushing.
Posted by Va'al on December 10th, 2017 @ 10:26am CST
But carry on, I guess.
Posted by Daniel Adkins on December 10th, 2017 @ 11:39am CST
DeathReviews wrote:I'm not up on what other media formats have been doing with the Visionaries, but wasn't "Darkstorm" the leader of the Darkling lords? Virulina never even had an action figure, they just kind of tossed her into the cartoon show so there could be a woman character on each team, right?
Well, if you go to the top of the previous page and look at the page IDW posted on their Instagram, you’ll see Leoric mention Darkstorm as the original leader of the Darkling Lords, implying that something happened to him, and that Virulina took over later.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 10th, 2017 @ 10:25pm CST
Yeah, I never saw the cartoon, but I did read all of the Marvel Visionaries book, where Virulina was contemplating a coup and had a plague-inducing power that seemed impressive enough to pull it off, so her having command isn't much different from Starscream being in charge.Daniel Adkins wrote:DeathReviews wrote:I'm not up on what other media formats have been doing with the Visionaries, but wasn't "Darkstorm" the leader of the Darkling lords? Virulina never even had an action figure, they just kind of tossed her into the cartoon show so there could be a woman character on each team, right?
Well, if you go to the top of the previous page and look at the page IDW posted on their Instagram, you’ll see Leoric mention Darkstorm as the original leader of the Darkling Lords, implying that something happened to him, and that Virulina took over later.
But as someone who's fallen behind on IDW, I sure am grateful for you tireless watchdogs constantly repeating the exact same anti-SJW rhetoric for little to no reason, otherwise I'd be totally ignorant that these horrible "problems" even exist!
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 10th, 2017 @ 11:25pm CST
Posted by Coptur on December 11th, 2017 @ 4:30am CST
Like with Primalxconvoy & partholon i'm not ok with changing the gender or ethnicity of a character for no rhyme or reason.
Posted by Va'al on December 14th, 2017 @ 3:02am CST
Check it all out below, mirrored from the iTunes page, and let us know if you'll be picking this new series up come the new year!
Cybertron has been invaded. The Transformers encounter unwelcome guests at the heart of Cybertron—and they may not have their hosts’ best interests at heart. Refugees from another world, the Visionaries' startling magical abilities could make them powerful allies... or dangerous enemies.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 14th, 2017 @ 3:25am CST
Posted by Va'al on December 14th, 2017 @ 4:17am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Zzz...
Dude, we get it; you're just commenting unnecessarily now.
Posted by Randomhero on December 14th, 2017 @ 5:49am CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 14th, 2017 @ 5:51am CST
Anyone else?
Posted by Va'al on December 14th, 2017 @ 5:54am CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 14th, 2017 @ 5:55am CST
Posted by ebo716 on December 14th, 2017 @ 7:00am CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 14th, 2017 @ 7:10am CST
Posted by Daniel Adkins on December 14th, 2017 @ 9:36am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Is this Breakdown the IDW version of Prime Breakdown?
Yep. He's been appearing in TAAO for the last year or so.
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 14th, 2017 @ 9:39am CST
Posted by partholon on December 14th, 2017 @ 6:01pm CST
seems like a case of ye old Transformes curse where when the humans look good the bots look awfull and vice versa.
havent seen anything this off since Windblade vol 2/TAAO.
IMO its a bad idea to have prysmos be a part of cybertron too. it justs seems too limiting or something. the notion of an entire solar system where TF cant go is alot more intriguing than somewhere outside new iacon where nobody bloody goes anyway.
as ripley would say "just nuke the site from orbit".
but hey im sure some love this style so each to their own. but i dont see this one lasting beyond the mini if they dont expand it greatly.
Posted by Coptur on December 15th, 2017 @ 3:16am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Well, that's something nice in all of this mess, at least. Time to visit TFWiki...
Yeah I like the concept of multiple Breakdowns, Prowls etc..
but i want to see Armada Red Alert like yesterday not ruined Visionaries.
G1 Visionaries forever...(or at east 13 episodes and a cancelled comic series... )
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 15th, 2017 @ 3:28am CST
Posted by Va'al on December 21st, 2017 @ 4:42am CST
The cover, mirrored below in both lineart and full colour, shows Virulina - the apparently new Darkling leader - and Ironhide, from the Cybertronian side of things, in a much different pose and setting than the cover for the first issue. Check it out!
Posted by Va'al on December 21st, 2017 @ 8:12am CST
We don't get too much more than what we first saw in the iTunes preview, posted here, but we do have an extra couple of pages added to the opening, and some additional characters introduced next to Merklynn, and alongside old Cybertronians Kup and Ironhide. Check it out below!
Cybertron has been invaded. The Transformers encounter unwelcome guests at the heart of Cybertron—and they may not have their hosts’ best interests at heart. Refugees from another world, the Visionaries' startling magical abilities could make them powerful allies... or dangerous enemies.