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More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream

Transformers News: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream

Tuesday, May 26th, 2020 1:27PM CDT

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Thanks to the Takara Tomy Twitter page, we have some more in hand images to share with you today for the upcoming Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream! MPM-10 Starscream is a brand new mold that captures the essence of the on screen character extremely well, and includes a lot of cool features such as all of his weapons, a ton of posability, and some intricate and well sculpted detailing.

Starscream will be a Target exclusive in the US and will retail for around $150. Takara's release will be a regular retail item that will price out around 20,000 yen (roughly $185 USD). We can expect the newest member of the MPM family to see release this fall.

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Transformers News: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream

Transformers News: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream

Transformers News: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream

Transformers News: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream
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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065485)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2020 @ 1:44pm CDT
Still waiting for better pictures of the jet's undercarriage.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065487)
Posted by TulioDude on May 26th, 2020 @ 2:09pm CDT
He looks so good,it's like he stepped out of the screen!





Day 147 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065488)
Posted by YRQRM0 on May 26th, 2020 @ 2:41pm CDT
Looks pretty great except for the unpainted machine gun.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065507)
Posted by Master Farr 1 on May 26th, 2020 @ 10:27pm CDT
it literally looks like the hunt for the decepticons figure with a worse chest
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065508)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 26th, 2020 @ 11:57pm CDT
It doesn't look that much better from the old leader class figure. I'll keep my leader class figure.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065510)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 27th, 2020 @ 12:27am CDT
omega666 wrote:It doesn't look that much better from the old leader class figure. I'll keep my leader class figure.


Proof that the old Leader is a Masterpiece on it's own.
I preordered him on Amazon.JP
https://www.amazon.co.jp/?tag=seibertron00-22&トランスフォーマー-マスターピース-ムービーシリーズ-MPM-10-スタースクリーム/dp/B088CBY2ZG/ref=pd_rhf_eetyp_p_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7N91DR9YXW0V932QFSS1

Item Subtotal:
¥ 13,965
Shipping & Handling:
¥ 1,505
Import Fees Deposit:
¥ 2,128

Order Total:
¥ 17,598


Even with the taxes and shipping, it's around 122$CAN cheaper at Amazon.jp than the alternative, Age 3 And Up: https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/collectio ... starscream
And that's NOT counting the taxes and shipping from them! :shock:

Anyway, I can see the engineering is much more advanced and is much more screen accurate on the MPM.
Still, I will never, ever sell my good old HFTD Leader Starscream. I really want the old leader and the new MPM to be side-by side on my shelf.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065521)
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on May 27th, 2020 @ 2:17am CDT
I have a question that's a bit off-topic. :???:

With all the 3Ps' making different versions of Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime, is there any word on an official Hasbro/Takara version of Bumblebee Movie MASTERPIECE Optimus Prime? I'd like a larger version, with perhaps some chrome detailing & larger in size.

If & when HasTak makes one, I'd hate importing it from Asia & having to wait weeks/months for packages. I'd rather order from BBTS, TFSource, Entertainment Earth, or Amazon(Direct), than from overseas.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065524)
Posted by toycave_studios on May 27th, 2020 @ 2:54am CDT
I hope that they make that neck-tilt part standard in most new tfs :michaelbay:
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065528)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 27th, 2020 @ 4:19am CDT
AutobotAlvaron wrote:I have a question that's a bit off-topic. :???:

With all the 3Ps' making different versions of Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime, is there any word on an official Hasbro/Takara version of Bumblebee Movie MASTERPIECE Optimus Prime? I'd like a larger version, with perhaps some chrome detailing & larger in size.

If & when HasTak makes one, I'd hate importing it from Asia & having to wait weeks/months for packages. I'd rather order from BBTS, TFSource, Entertainment Earth, or Amazon(Direct), than from overseas.


If you order it from Amazon.JP, it seem you'll receive it as quickly if not faster than if you bought it from BBTS and such. There will also be a heavy price difference.
Amazon.JP use DHL and they seem to have struck an insane deal.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2065552)
Posted by hausjam on May 27th, 2020 @ 1:07pm CDT
I got mp44 and mp45 from amazon.jp in about a week. Hound took about 3 weeks.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2070883)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 7th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CDT
Greetings Seibertronians! Following on from the new images of MPM-11 Ratchet, In Demand Toys have updated their MPM-10 Starscream listing with our first look at the box he'll be coming in, along with two new stock images!

These new images also show all the weapons he'll be bringing with him so you can recreate different scenes with him once he's in your hands.

MPM-10 Starscream is currently scheduled to come out some time in September according to his listing, costing £139.99 (roughly $175.68 US). In Demand Toys have been quicker then other retailers in getting figures into customers hands, as its been the case with Transformers Earthrise Sky Lynx and Scorponok, and Studio Series Overload.

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Are you planning on getting Starscream? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2070889)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 7th, 2020 @ 7:41pm CDT
Preordered mine from Amazon.JP at a much cheaper price. 13965JPY, meaning less than 130$US. And their shipping is ridiculously cheap and fast. But this deal may be unavailable to UK residents.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2070909)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 7th, 2020 @ 9:11pm CDT
This is going to be a great year for movie masterpiece
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2070920)
Posted by TulioDude on July 7th, 2020 @ 9:52pm CDT
It's nice to see him in a more neutral pose,but in some of these pics the arms look mistransformed.
Can't wait to see him next to other Decepticons. :CON:
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2071489)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2020 @ 5:25pm CDT
Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has uploaded a special treat. They've done a video review for the forthcoming, and highly anticipated, Transformers MPM-10 Starscream!

While this toy still has a couple of months before becoming available at retail (he is exclusive to Target in the US), PrimeVsPrime has gotten hold of a copy early and explores it's features and articulation.

Check out the video review below:



Are you adding this Starscream to your collection? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2071497)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 12th, 2020 @ 6:06pm CDT
TonTon made the review weeks ago already. He also make nice comparisons with the old MPM-01 which is based on the HFTD leader, and the current SS voyager.

Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2071500)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 12th, 2020 @ 6:12pm CDT
They completely nailed the robot mode! This is definitely something I'll be picking up, though I'm not sure when.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2071518)
Posted by megamanfan on July 12th, 2020 @ 8:49pm CDT
jeez. that lack of articulation in key areas, and lack of solid ratchets where they should be just makes me glad i have the HFTD leader. how is it they can release a "masterpiece" in 2020 that doesn't have a bicep swivel, when it's basically standard on a deluxe?
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2071526)
Posted by transformers_va on July 12th, 2020 @ 10:48pm CDT
A jet without jets? :-? It's a shame they put so much detail into the jets in robot mode, but completely omitted them in the jet mode
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2074347)
Posted by william-james88 on July 31st, 2020 @ 9:18am CDT
From Hong Kong Fans Expo

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2074365)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 31st, 2020 @ 11:04am CDT
I really don't regret me pre-order!
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2074691)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 2nd, 2020 @ 6:00pm CDT
Looking forward to him, hoping I see him at Target. Would be only the 2nd ever MP I ever saw and bought in stores! And he looks pretty dang fun
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2074712)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 2nd, 2020 @ 6:55pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Looking forward to him, hoping I see him at Target. Would be only the 2nd ever MP I ever saw and bought in stores! And he looks pretty dang fun


Preorder him at Amazon.JP
It's the best price and you are sure to get him.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2074815)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 3rd, 2020 @ 9:32am CDT
Look like the pre-orders at Amazon.JP are now closed. Only one seller offer a pre-order and it's at almost 40K yen!

I'm pretty glad to not have missed out.

How about you guys? Have you secured Screamers on pre-order?
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2077381)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 24th, 2020 @ 12:14pm CDT
Greetings Seibertronians! We have excellent news for fans of Starscream and of the Transformers Movie Masterpiece line, as MPM-10 Starscream is in stock and delivering from Target.com!

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Not only does this mean that you can now purchase Starscream online, but as fellow Seibertron user, toycave_studios, found, he's also appearing in Target stores across the United States! toycave_studios got his MPM-10 at the Valley Parkway Target in Escondido, CA.

Are you getting this Movie Masterpiece? Will you be hunting for him in store or have you secured a preorder already? Let wgo know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2077384)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 24th, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT
Mine should be arriving Thursday, stoked for him to arrive!
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2077385)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 24th, 2020 @ 12:42pm CDT
Mine, from Amazon.JP won't be arriving before November. :(
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2077464)
Posted by transformers_va on August 25th, 2020 @ 12:43am CDT
Got mine from Target today.. overall, nice update, but the ankles are unforgivable. For the price, I was expecting a much more solid figure
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2077949)
Posted by Tuned Agent on August 27th, 2020 @ 7:39pm CDT
Found Screamer at my local Target today. Not going to get him, but he was pretty cool to see on the shelf. :D
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078067)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 28th, 2020 @ 12:03pm CDT
Look who arrived today!

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He's gonna be a big boy

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078159)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 28th, 2020 @ 8:29pm CDT
So some initial impressions on Screamer: The figure itself is pretty good, and very close to being really good. The jet mode and robot mode are both pretty dang neat, and the transformation so far has been good, nothing hugely pain in the ass-y. There are 2 things that I don't particularly like that I'm encountering though: the wings are a little "floaty" alot like MP Track's robot mode. but I also might need to work on adjusting the wings to make them more stable.

The 2nd thing though is the shoulders. They are using a pretty weak ratchet, and he has diecast forearms, so his arms are almost unable to hold themselves up empty, let alone with the accessories sadly.

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078186)
Posted by transformers_va on August 29th, 2020 @ 1:29am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:...the wings are a little "floaty"
Are you referring to the robot mode? If so, I don't think you've got them up enough, as they sort of soft-lock in behind his head.

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:...he has diecast forearms
His forearms are plastic. I think you meant upper arms.

On a separate note, I have to say that this is by FAR the best MPM they've released so far! I'm not a huge fan of Bayverse designs, but I have to admit that this guy is really quite impressive.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078198)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 29th, 2020 @ 6:57am CDT
MFW Americans already have their MPM Starscream from Target while my preorder from months ago will not ship before November from Amazon.JP...

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078202)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 29th, 2020 @ 7:53am CDT
Ah but what was the price difference between what they paid and your amazon.jp order?
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078205)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 29th, 2020 @ 8:22am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Ah but what was the price difference between what they paid and your amazon.jp order?


Well, for starter, I'm ALLOWED to buy it from Amazon.JP. Can't buy anything from Target.com.
But if I could have bought it from Target, here's what it would have cost me:

150$US plus 30$US of shipping(estimate), plus sureshot custom fees that would be the federal and provincial taxes PLUS 10$CAN on top for "handling fees".
Total: 281$CAN. (214.56$US)

My Amazon.JP order:
The toy plus shipping and custom deposit: grand total of ¥17598, meaning 218.75$CAN or 167.30$US.

So basically, I think I'm paying the same amount than an American buying his locally live in store. And that's importing it from Japan.
It could have been worse... MUCH WORSE if it weren't for Amazon.JP.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078209)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 29th, 2020 @ 9:00am CDT
Well not all bad then :)
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078214)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2020 @ 9:50am CDT
Yes, I did mean upper arms/biceps, my bad.

And I do have the wings soft locked in like that, but it still feels a little floaty, there are a lot of wings in there, and his sides of chest/shoulders, which is for posing, but is a little too easy to move for my liking.

So last night messing with him, I can say that it's only the left shoulder that is really bad. It can barely hold his arm up at all, and not at all with an accessory. The right arm can hold an accessory up, but it's super close to not making it, and probably won't keep its strength long.

I also discovered something else that really annoys me: how the hell do we have a masterpiece with NO BICEP ROTATION. He doesn't have a waist either, but the biceps, how can you not have any arm rotation like that?

I'm really bummed, I was super excited for Screamer, but there are some things that are letting me down. He's definitely my least favorite con MPM, Megatron clearly and rightfully owns that title, and Barricade is still quite solid. I'd rank Screamer down towards the bottom above Ironhide and Prime, due to those being a nightmare to transform and Ironhide requiring an upgrade kit to hold is upper body together, but below everyone else. Jazz and Megatron continue to have a solid hold on the MPM bests.

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078224)
Posted by TulioDude on August 29th, 2020 @ 11:23am CDT
Even knowing these flaws,he still looks pretty nice.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078237)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2020 @ 1:12pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Even knowing these flaws,he still looks pretty nice.

Oh he is very nice, I like him. I just wish his bicep swivels and shoulders actually existed. He is close to being so good, but just isn't quite there
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078454)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 31st, 2020 @ 8:21pm CDT
Some more pictures. He makes a pretty good jet and I like the transformation. Again, he just needed better shoulders and arms

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and here he is with the SS figure. I plan to put together a nice Starscream family photo tomorrow

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078793)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 2nd, 2020 @ 6:17pm CDT
Starscream Family Photo

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078804)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 2nd, 2020 @ 7:10pm CDT
And the jet modes

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Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078867)
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 3rd, 2020 @ 12:31pm CDT
D-Max, which do you think is better overall, MPM Screamer or HftD leader Screamer?
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078868)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 3rd, 2020 @ 12:41pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:D-Max, which do you think is better overall, MPM Screamer or HftD leader Screamer?

Yikes, hard decision.

Both transformations are really fun and good to do, and are different enough it's not like it's the same figure.

Jet modes are both really solid. I would hand the RotF leader the slightly better jet mode overall, but it also depends on how you feel about tattoos vs. regular F22 paint work.

Robot modes both have strengths and weaknesses. RotF leader feels more solid, but is backheavy and needs ankle tilts and wrist swivels. MPM is much more detailed and accurate, and is more balanced, but lack of bicep swivels and the loose shoulder kinda negate that.

Overall, I can't really give a recommendation on one or the other. They are both pretty equal to one another in terms of good toys. MPM would win if you are more a stickler for movie accuracy as the 2, but that's about the only way the tie is broken
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078870)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 3rd, 2020 @ 12:52pm CDT
Or one would break the piggy bank and buy MPM-01 for the true tie. ;)^

This is a reminder that we will never get leader class figures like in the times of 2007, ROTF, HFTD and DOTM ever again. :(
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078901)
Posted by william-james88 on September 3rd, 2020 @ 3:47pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:D-Max, which do you think is better overall, MPM Screamer or HftD leader Screamer?

Yikes, hard decision.

Both transformations are really fun and good to do, and are different enough it's not like it's the same figure.

Jet modes are both really solid. I would hand the RotF leader the slightly better jet mode overall, but it also depends on how you feel about tattoos vs. regular F22 paint work.

Robot modes both have strengths and weaknesses. RotF leader feels more solid, but is backheavy and needs ankle tilts and wrist swivels. MPM is much more detailed and accurate, and is more balanced, but lack of bicep swivels and the loose shoulder kinda negate that.

Overall, I can't really give a recommendation on one or the other. They are both pretty equal to one another in terms of good toys. MPM would win if you are more a stickler for movie accuracy as the 2, but that's about the only way the tie is broken


It's cool to know that they are equal. I love the HFTD Leader. Would you say either or is the best Starscream toy ever released (movie or otherwise) ?
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078922)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 3rd, 2020 @ 5:50pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:D-Max, which do you think is better overall, MPM Screamer or HftD leader Screamer?

Yikes, hard decision.

Both transformations are really fun and good to do, and are different enough it's not like it's the same figure.

Jet modes are both really solid. I would hand the RotF leader the slightly better jet mode overall, but it also depends on how you feel about tattoos vs. regular F22 paint work.

Robot modes both have strengths and weaknesses. RotF leader feels more solid, but is backheavy and needs ankle tilts and wrist swivels. MPM is much more detailed and accurate, and is more balanced, but lack of bicep swivels and the loose shoulder kinda negate that.

Overall, I can't really give a recommendation on one or the other. They are both pretty equal to one another in terms of good toys. MPM would win if you are more a stickler for movie accuracy as the 2, but that's about the only way the tie is broken

It's cool to know that they are equal. I love the HFTD Leader. Would you say either or is the best Starscream toy ever released (movie or otherwise) ?

I would have to say no, but both are close to being top of both piles. No other Starscream has really come close to them outside the movies for me, but in all cases, I think the SS figure is the better Starscream and best one made
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078928)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 3rd, 2020 @ 6:29pm CDT
I have a soft spot for the OG 2007 voyager mold.
I'm weird that way.
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078935)
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 3rd, 2020 @ 6:59pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:D-Max, which do you think is better overall, MPM Screamer or HftD leader Screamer?

Yikes, hard decision.

Both transformations are really fun and good to do, and are different enough it's not like it's the same figure.

Jet modes are both really solid. I would hand the RotF leader the slightly better jet mode overall, but it also depends on how you feel about tattoos vs. regular F22 paint work.

Robot modes both have strengths and weaknesses. RotF leader feels more solid, but is backheavy and needs ankle tilts and wrist swivels. MPM is much more detailed and accurate, and is more balanced, but lack of bicep swivels and the loose shoulder kinda negate that.

Overall, I can't really give a recommendation on one or the other. They are both pretty equal to one another in terms of good toys. MPM would win if you are more a stickler for movie accuracy as the 2, but that's about the only way the tie is broken

It's cool to know that they are equal. I love the HFTD Leader. Would you say either or is the best Starscream toy ever released (movie or otherwise) ?

I would have to say no, but both are close to being top of both piles. No other Starscream has really come close to them outside the movies for me, but in all cases, I think the SS figure is the better Starscream and best one made

Thanks D-Max. ;)^ I've only ever heard good things about the HftD leader, so for the MPM to be as good even with a few blemishes is high praise.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I have a soft spot for the OG 2007 voyager mold.
I'm weird that way.

That mold is a good example of why accuracy isn't everything. It sucks accuracy-wise, but once you get past that it's actually pretty fun. I mean, how can you go wrong with miniguns for hands? ;)
Re: More Images - Transformers Movie Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2078937)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 3rd, 2020 @ 7:15pm CDT
Furthermore, the 2007 voyager Starscream have one of the sweetest automorph gimmick ever. Plus the fact that the arms and legs of the bot are not really part of the vehicle make it easily swappable for some mad customs.

Ironically the 2007 mold is my #1 Bayverse Starscream. Next is the HFTD leader. And after, the DOTM deluxe and the SS voyager on equal term. The ROTF voyager is an abomination that dosent exist.

As for where the MPM will rank on my personal list? Time will tell.
Lots and LOTS of time. :(

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