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Those are some highly polished, overpriced turds right there, folks.

Rodimus would be fine if he was all plastic.

Always with the misleading box art... this time showing cartoon selves when the toys are not.

And despite my issues with TR Voyager Galvatron (some of which I've fixed myself) he blows this Galvy mold away with ease. The headsculpt ain't too bad but the rest is ick.

Rodimus here ain't much good either. Respect trying to make the whole alt-mode into the robot but it just didn't really work here.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Always with the misleading box art

I dont know about that, they both arent holding the matrix on the box art, which is reflected in how both toys cant hold it either

Mistransformed tank mode.

No flames on the sides of Rodimus Prime's trailer.

Is the matrix the same one as MP-10? If so, I'd throw a tenner at this when it inevitably lingers on discount. My cat ran off with the one I had and we've moved house now. I need to get a new one before Thunderwing or whatever finds the other one. If TRU weren't so full of fantasy and magical wonder, that's all they'd be charging for this shambles anyway. Thank you, I'm calmer now, I may be back next week.

Mr O wrote:Is the matrix the same one as MP-10? If so, I'd throw a tenner at this when it inevitably lingers on discount. My cat ran off with the one I had and we've moved house now. I need to get a new one before Thunderwing or whatever finds the other one. If TRU weren't so full of fantasy and magical wonder, that's all they'd be charging for this shambles anyway. Thank you, I'm calmer now, I may be back next week.

Plus, you'd get a free...
...
... shit couple of figures with it... well, at least they're good in alt- no, no... you get two free pieces of shit with your matrix. Yay.

I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

ausbot wrote:Rodimus would be fine if he was all plastic.

Supposedly, Titanium Rodimus Prime is one of the better ones when it comes to the joints, as it doesn't suffer the same looseness as his brethren despite the die cast weighing him down.

... I don't entirely understand why they went with a metallic red for the die cast and then just regular red plastic. It stands out.

So does that mean there will be a new thread in 2017 if this is called 2016 Generations Platinum sets?

Raintime Rainmaker wrote:So does that mean there will be a new thread in 2017 if this is called 2016 Generations Platinum sets?

Yup

Railbomb wrote:I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

That would have made more sense, I'd buy some of the Platinum sets if the were Beast Wars. But John Warden loves his G1 and there's a rumor he doesn't care much at all for other incarnations of Transformers, specifically Beast Wars. So it probably would have flown very well with him at the helm. We all know what happened with the Year of the Monkey set.

SureShot18 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

That would have made more sense, I'd buy some of the Platinum sets if the were Beast Wars. But John Warden loves his G1 and there's a rumor he doesn't care much at all for other incarnations of Transformers, specifically Beast Wars. So it probably would have flown very well with him at the helm. We all know what happened with the Year of the Monkey set.

I've heard that he and his team do like Armada, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

That would have made more sense, I'd buy some of the Platinum sets if the were Beast Wars. But John Warden loves his G1 and there's a rumor he doesn't care much at all for other incarnations of Transformers, specifically Beast Wars. So it probably would have flown very well with him at the helm. We all know what happened with the Year of the Monkey set.

I've heard that he and his team do like Armada, though.

That'd explain CW Armada Megatron

SureShot18 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

That would have made more sense, I'd buy some of the Platinum sets if the were Beast Wars. But John Warden loves his G1 and there's a rumor he doesn't care much at all for other incarnations of Transformers, specifically Beast Wars. So it probably would have flown very well with him at the helm. We all know what happened with the Year of the Monkey set.

The only Platinum project we know John Warden worked on is Liokaiser. From the interviews it seems the platinum line is handled by a totally seperate team.

william-james88 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I really don't see all the Platinum sets that they're making selling well. The one based off the movie poster and Unicron are the only ones that I think will sell. They really should have used some of these on Platinum Beast Wars sets.

That would have made more sense, I'd buy some of the Platinum sets if the were Beast Wars. But John Warden loves his G1 and there's a rumor he doesn't care much at all for other incarnations of Transformers, specifically Beast Wars. So it probably would have flown very well with him at the helm. We all know what happened with the Year of the Monkey set.

The only Platinum project we know John Warden worked on is Liokaiser. From the interviews it seems the platinum line is handled by a totally seperate team.

And the Chinese New Year ones are likely handled by Hasbro Asia.

Well I guess I shouldn't say stuff I'm not sure about.
I figured he'd have some control over the Platinum sets since they are Generations. But yeah I guess the Year of the ____ would be an entirely different team.

BTW I wasn't hating on Warden, TR looks amazing.

Evening Seibertronians, tonight we have a pictorial review of Transformers Generations 2016 Platinum Edition: Armada of Cyclonus! This '86 Movie inspired 3-pack includes the Unicron spawned Cyclonus, Scourge, and Decepticon Sweep (sporting a brand new head!). They all hail from the Classics/Universe/Generations era, and have some new competition with Combiner Wars and Titans Return. Has the throne been usurped? Let's scroll and have a look.









Namesake of the set, Cyclonus. Great as always, this time around he is sporting two hands capable of holding weapons (as opposed to the molded close fisted previous versions) and has a gun stolen from Generations Kup. While he doesn't have quite as nice a jet silhouette as the CW Voyager, I still feel he has the better robot mode.







Sweep leader Scourge is the only one completely unchanged (mold wise) in this set. This grudge match is a toss up. On one hand I prefer the wings on this version, but love the classic space boat alt mode of the Titans release.









And finally, Decepticon Sweep. Take Scourge to the barber shop for a hot shave, and what do you get? This fella. This new head sculpt is fresh take on what the Sweep clone army should look like and is a great addition to anyone's Unicron crew.

So what do these figures mean for your collection? Is it out with the old and in with the new, or long live Classics? Or can you still not let go of G1 even (haha wink wink). Let us know, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

I really can't get into this set at all... I never liked the idea of translucent parts representing the Unicronian Trio's metamorphosis - it never came out looking quite right, but even here it's just spotty and in random places that fails to look good from any angle. It really brings down what is an excellent mold in Cyclonus - talking of which, did they really think it'd annoy Movie purists or something if they included Nightstick? Like... c'mon, really? We randomly get a recolour of Kup's gun instead?

The Sweep head is really lovely though. Would love to get that as a Titan Master.

That sweeps head sculpt looks scrumptious

Monkey Optimus Prime (another version of Beast Machines Primal Prime essentially) had the main problem nearly all those platinum sets have at release - being far to expensive. there is also the issue that you not always sure why some of them exist in the 1st place.

They were awful separately!
Worst versions of both.
Who decides these things?

Nice write up shaj!!

I can't help but notice you didn't have the loincloths facing forward..

Also!! Any way we can get the wings opened up to see how pretty they are?

If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

RAR wrote:Monkey Optimus Prime (another version of Beast Machines Primal Prime essentially) had the main problem nearly all those platinum sets have at release - being far to expensive. there is also the issue that you not always sure why some of them exist in the 1st place.

To celebrate each Chinese New Year with a big old Optimus toy.

I was actually surprised by how much I liked the set. It also looks good with the older eHobby set with the eHobby set in front and these guys in the back.

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

No. That is in fact translucent.


It's just that translucency can have gradations. Transparency is what happens when its 100% translucent.


trans·par·ent
transˈperənt/
adjective
(of a material or article) allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen.
"transparent blue water"
synonyms: clear, crystal clear, see-through, translucent, pellucid, limpid, glassy, vitreous More
easy to perceive or detect.
"the residents will see through any transparent attempt to buy their votes"
synonyms: obvious, evident, self-evident, undisguised, unconcealed, conspicuous, patent, clear, crystal clear, plain, (as) plain as the nose on your face, apparent, unmistakable, easily discerned, manifest, palpable, indisputable, unambiguous, unequivocal
"a transparent attempt to win favor"
having thoughts, feelings, or motives that are easily perceived.
"you'd be no good at poker—you're too transparent"




trans·lu·cent
transˈlo͞osnt,tranzˈlo͞osnt/Submit
adjective
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed images, to pass through; semitransparent.
"fry until the onions become translucent"
synonyms: semitransparent, semiopaque, pellucid, limpid, clear;


Not sure how it would improve it if it were less see through than it is.

A shame about all that clear plastic because the metallic paintjobs on those look gorgeous.

Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning? He certainly looks the part but his lack of bicep swivels kinda kills it a little. I'm considering going for the UW Grand Galvatron set at some point and having the Cyclonus from that set.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

Overcracker wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

No. That is in fact translucent.


It's just that translucency can have gradations. Transparency is what happens when its 100% translucent.


trans·par·ent
transˈperənt/
adjective
(of a material or article) allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen.
"transparent blue water"
synonyms: clear, crystal clear, see-through, translucent, pellucid, limpid, glassy, vitreous More
easy to perceive or detect.
"the residents will see through any transparent attempt to buy their votes"
synonyms: obvious, evident, self-evident, undisguised, unconcealed, conspicuous, patent, clear, crystal clear, plain, (as) plain as the nose on your face, apparent, unmistakable, easily discerned, manifest, palpable, indisputable, unambiguous, unequivocal
"a transparent attempt to win favor"
having thoughts, feelings, or motives that are easily perceived.
"you'd be no good at poker—you're too transparent"




trans·lu·cent
transˈlo͞osnt,tranzˈlo͞osnt/Submit
adjective
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed images, to pass through; semitransparent.
"fry until the onions become translucent"
synonyms: semitransparent, semiopaque, pellucid, limpid, clear;


Not sure how it would improve it if it were less see through than it is.

You say Remold, I say Retool
You say Repaint, I say Redeco

Remold, Retool
Repaint, Redeco

Let's call the whole thing off...

Delta Magnus wrote:Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning?

Yes, Big Time. One of the best TF toys of all time to have an aerial cybertronian alt mode. And it gives you a nice kibble free robot that doesnt even look like he has an alt mode.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

But he is not super fun to play with. Those boat shells come off (purposefully) and he is one of the fiddliest Transformers outside of MP 05. Looks great though, I am glad to own him. But I would want an army of him. I find the Generations Scourge to have a good balance of complexity and fun and the alt mode has less visible robot kibble:


Transformers Generations Scourge Gallery


Transformers Titans Return Scourge Gallery

Also the weapon storarge on gen Scourge is to die for.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning?

Yes, Big Time. One of the best TF toys of all time to have an aerial cybertronian alt mode. And it gives you a nice kibble free robot that doesnt even look like he has an alt mode.

Thanks for the recommendation. Having seen some pics of him looking super dynamic even without the bicep swivels I think I'm convinced. I may very well try and get him, once my living situation is sorted.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

But he is not super fun to play with. Those boat shells come off (purposefully) and he is one of the fiddliest Transformers outside of MP 05. Looks great though, I am glad to own him. But I would want an army of him. I find the Generations Scourge to have a good balance of complexity and fun and the alt mode has less visible robot kibble:


Transformers Generations Scourge Gallery


Transformers Titans Return Scourge Gallery

Also the weapon storarge on gen Scourge is to die for.

That's a shame about Energon Dreadwing. I may still pick him or his mold brother up if I find him for cheap, but I'll avoid paying top dollar (sterling?) for him now. As for Gen Scourge, if I DO get Universe Cyclonus I will almost certainly get him too (whilst TR Scourge is More G1 and has a great "soapdish" mode, his robot mode is kinda lacklustre, and his Hasbro paintjob is just appalling) unless I somehow find a better option, which is highly unlikely.

I do wish that HasTak had done a better job on Scourge though. I actually really like his design, especially the bat wings/cape and that gorgeous spaceship mode. Unfortunately the only toy I've ever seen capture that particular...something about him (specifically the silhouette he had with those magnificent wings) is X-Transbots' MP Scourge attempt, which unfortunately isn't a very good figure. None of the other figures quite get it right- the Titanium is oddly proportioned, the Gen figure is good but quite a radical redesign (though still probably my favourite thus far), the Wings of Honour figures were cool and all (especially for a convention exclusive) but are hard to find and are at the end of the day still just redecos of the (admittedly awesome) Cybertron Sideways figure, and the TR toy, even with the Takara paintjob, is kinda tubby, has the Headmaster gimmick and the wings are somewhat underwhelming. Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

SureShot18 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

Especially when Nova Prime just does not work.

SureShot18 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

Yes that would have been cool. I never thought of it and though I dont like redecos too much, I would have been ok with that. It definitely looks like an ironhide body. I have the arms micron and its really not great. They mess up the movie homage by not giving him the Hasbro weapons and they give him a fake chest and a messed up back kibble piece which is really odd when the Cyberverse Ironhide had the same design but didnt have a fake chest. Here is my list of Best Ironhides, feel free to tell us there why you like the arms micron best http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... oys/34301/

That Cyclonus looks preety tasty. I could really really get behind the translucent parts; they go better with the non-trNslucent parts than usual.

This set looks great

We still need a Platinum two pack with the new Wheelie and Gnaw figures to get the whole movie cast out there.

shajaki wrote:Sweep leader Scourge is the only one completely unchanged (mold wise) in this set.

So is mine faulty? Because the original release would let you sink the head down to hide it more in alt mode and it would push down the landing gear so you could use it. But in this version, the landing gear at the back is already low and ready to be unfolded without you needing to push the head down. Does his head even push down?

Also, here are some more pics, including some with light piping!

william-james88 wrote:Yes that would have been cool. I never thought of it and though I dont like redecos too much, I would have been ok with that. It definitely looks like an ironhide body. I have the arms micron and its really not great. They mess up the movie homage by not giving him the Hasbro weapons and they give him a fake chest and a messed up back kibble piece which is really odd when the Cyberverse Ironhide had the same design but didnt have a fake chest. Here is my list of Best Ironhides, feel free to tell us there why you like the arms micron best http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... oys/34301/

I was just talking about looks since I don't own either version of the mold. Sounds like most of your gripes involve actually having the figure in hand.

Anyway back to Platinum. I noticed in the toy haul thread you got the Cyclonus Armada set on sale. I hope it goes that low in the states at some point. Those decos do look great.

Target has put their platinums on sale in the past, like the Blaster Perceptor set, so there is a chance this one will be on sale too near Black Friday.

I think I might grab this set just to do a parts transplant with my RTS Cyclonus.

I wonder why Hasbro didn't consider how much Beast Hunters Wheeljack resembles IDW Rodimus and use that for some sort of gift set as Rodimus - they still have not repainted that version of that mould yet either (Takara version aside).

Seems like an easy thing to do - simply give it a new head and repaint it the proper colour.

Freshly listed this morning, Wal-Mart.ca has listed the Transformers Generations Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes Set at $219.92 CAD (approximately $170 USD). This 1986 Movie inspired set includes beautiful redeco's of Ultra Magnus (CW Leader), Arcee (Generations Deluxe), Springer (Generations Voyager), Kup (Generations Deluxe), and Blurr (Generations Deluxe). History shows us that that a Platinum set being listed at Wal-Mart.ca usually means it will be exclusive there, whereas in the States it is likely to appear in a number of different stores. Also keep in mind this set is in "low stock" but it is known to fluctuate in and out of stock. What do you think of this set, it's deco's, and inherent cost? Let us know, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

$170 USD? That seems kinda cheap to me. I might get this if I see it. I kinda wish they would recolor Minimus Ambus to look like Daniel. I think it'd complete the set.

I wonder why they didn't repaint Minimus Ambus into Daniel.