More Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG14 Ultra Magnus

man. this guy has me tempted to double dip.

He does look pretty good. I like him, I'm just happy with my Magnus so I'll pass

You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

william-james88 wrote:You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

Don't be too hasty mein freund! Pics and real product REALLY D'ffrent.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

Don't be too hasty mein freund! Pics and real product REALLY D'ffrent.

Are you saying Hasbro's deco is much lamer than it might look on pics?

Oh! Turns out both the white and red legs are comic accurate:

However, Takara's Magnus has much more of the comic-accurate details, like all the little glowing lights on the shoulder pylons and the waist. And the Autobot symbols on the shoulders.

william-james88 wrote:You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

The red thighs are a deal breaker for me too. I got Hasbro's Ultra Magnus months ago, and I couldn't be happier. Those green feet are a deal breaker for me on Springer too. Even though the desaturated green and yellow are closer to the colors on the animation model, the more vibrant green and yellow on the Hasbro version just pop so much better, and I appreciate the two tones of grays to break things up further and create a more dynamic look. In fact, that helps emulate the color layout of the animation model that much better. That Takara Arcee, though, is perfection. She's the definitive version for my Classics collection.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

The red thighs are a deal breaker for me too. I got Hasbro's Ultra Magnus months ago, and I couldn't be happier. Those green feet are a deal breaker for me on Springer too. Even though the desaturated green and yellow are closer to the colors on the animation model, the more vibrant green and yellow on the Hasbro version just pop so much better, and I appreciate the two tones of grays to break things up further and create a more dynamic look. In fact, that helps emulate the color layout of the animation model that much better. That Takara Arcee, though, is perfection. She's the definitive version for my Classics collection.

I could not agree more! She is perfect.

Ugh, that Takara Springer.

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

Good times

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

My sentiments, exactly.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

My sentiments, exactly.

I have the Hasbro Springer (on the left), and he looks much better than the Takara one. The colors just contrast better.

In some ways, the Hasbro one looks like it SHOULD be the Takara one, and vice versa. THAT'S how much better the Hasbro one looks than the Takara one.

SillySpringer wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

My sentiments, exactly.

I have the Hasbro Springer (on the left), and he looks much better than the Takara one. The colors just contrast better.

In some ways, the Hasbro one looks like it SHOULD be the Takara one, and vice versa. THAT'S how much better the Hasbro one looks than the Takara one.

I agree and I'm usually a Takara stalwart.

Counterpunch wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

My sentiments, exactly.

I have the Hasbro Springer (on the left), and he looks much better than the Takara one. The colors just contrast better.

In some ways, the Hasbro one looks like it SHOULD be the Takara one, and vice versa. THAT'S how much better the Hasbro one looks than the Takara one.

I agree and I'm usually a Takara stalwart.

Are you also in the camp of Generations Wheeljack being better than Henkei Weheeljack ?

william-james88 wrote:Are you also in the camp of Generations Wheeljack being better than Henkei Weheeljack ?

In all seriousness, is anyone NOT in that camp?

Call me crazy, but all 4 autobots in this page are hasbro superior in my opinion. The other versions just don't look as nice to me, Even arcee (but that's cause I like the extra black)

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You guys will find me nuts but with that awesome pic of the three of them, I realize how Magnus would look better with white legs. I might have to buy the Hasbro version instead, even though it has inferior paint apps.

Don't be too hasty mein freund! Pics and real product REALLY D'ffrent.

Are you saying Hasbro's deco is much lamer than it might look on pics?

A bit of truth in the statement. Though I won't go to the extreme in the term "lame". Maybe depending on the monitor quality or the picture from the uploads.

The color hue tends to go wacky that when you see the actual item, you go wha?

TT Sandstorm was a good example of this issue. TT Springer compared to the HB, well to each his own preference but imo, the latter would serve as a good base unit for a custom. As it's too dull (the again that's my personal preference).

That or just like people, some figures are more photogenic than others.

fenrir72 wrote:A bit of truth in the statement. Though I won't go to the extreme in the term "lame". Maybe depending on the monitor quality or the picture from the uploads.

The color hue tends to go wacky that when you see the actual item, you go wha?

TT Sandstorm was a good example of this issue. TT Springer compared to the HB, well to each his own preference but imo, the latter would serve as a good base unit for a custom. As it's too dull (the again that's my personal preference).

That or just like people, some figures are more photogenic than others.

Wait, which Springer do you think is "dull?" If it's the Takara Tomy one, I think you mean "the former" instead of "the latter."

william-james88 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

megatronus wrote:Ugh, that Takara Springer.

My sentiments, exactly.

I have the Hasbro Springer (on the left), and he looks much better than the Takara one. The colors just contrast better.

In some ways, the Hasbro one looks like it SHOULD be the Takara one, and vice versa. THAT'S how much better the Hasbro one looks than the Takara one.

I agree and I'm usually a Takara stalwart.

Are you also in the camp of Generations Wheeljack being better than Henkei Weheeljack ?

Maybe, though I don't have the figure, i looks better in than the other in pictures.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:A bit of truth in the statement. Though I won't go to the extreme in the term "lame". Maybe depending on the monitor quality or the picture from the uploads.

The color hue tends to go wacky that when you see the actual item, you go wha?

TT Sandstorm was a good example of this issue. TT Springer compared to the HB, well to each his own preference but imo, the latter would serve as a good base unit for a custom. As it's too dull (the again that's my personal preference).

That or just like people, some figures are more photogenic than others.

Wait, which Springer do you think is "dull?" If it's the Takara Tomy one, I think you mean "the former" instead of "the latter."

HB, Hasbro. I find that one custom material dull.So the latter. He's like shelf warming all over TRU here in S.E.A.

I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

What I hate about TT is the 6 month wait.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

What I hate about TT is the 6 month wait.

Ugh... This...

Also, when Canada Post have a HURR DURR moment and send my packet to a post office that is at two bus rides over instead of the one that is just accross the street.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

Eh, it can go half and half. Takara does normally have much better paint apps but the hasbro still looks really good. Then there are times that a bad deco comes out and one looks vastly superior (cough Hasbro Defensor rocks, Takara looks ugly cough). So it really comes down to personal preference. I for one am good with the hasbro almost the entire time (That upgrade bee though man, look awesome, as does Grimmy)

Well I pre-ordered Takara Magnus today, I don't have the Hasbro one, and like the red on the legs. Alpha Trion helps too.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

IMO< the hasbro Rhinox was superior. The takara looked a bit funky to me.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

It was better assembled & more show accurate.

Doctor McGrath wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I've honestly never liked any deco TT has offered (that isn't exclusive), up until Runabout

What about the robots in disguise line? Or Superion?

Ya know what? You're right, I've actually liked every deco they released in the rid'15 line; I was originally talking about the generations/legends lines, because it irritated me that they weren't that great to me; and I felt the same way about the hasbro rid'15 line, so the tav line kinda slipped on by

Well it makes sense, we are in the LEgends thread after all

And I do agree that the difference between Legends and Generations is more "different" than it is "superior". Be it Blitzwing, Megatron, Brainstorm, Jetfire, Whirl, Rattrap and especially Roadbuster, the differences dont really do anything making me want to import (not that it would cost so much more). Though I will say that their Tankor and Rhinox was better and Arcee was more to my taste (especially given the design they went with). Their Gelshark vs our Skybyte is probably the best one of all to show that they can still be superior when they want to be. I own Legends Whirl and... I am totally indifferent to owning it over the Hasbro one. Both seem so inferior to the use of that mold for Shockwave (as you said, their exclusives are pretty great). That Magnus also seems to have much nicer paint apps, even though I am not fond of the choice of red hips (man, that picture with Springer and Arcee totally played a number on me, it's like I was blind and now I see).

No way, there is no way 'metallic brown rhinox' is better than 'normal (realistic?) color rhinox'

It was better assembled & more show accurate.

Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

That is what I was getting at. The knee tolerances were much better as well.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

Metallic or not, brown is still what Cartoon Rhinox was, not grayish tan.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Except not, because he wasn't shiny brown ion beast or robot mode.

Hasbro's Rhinox is shiny too, so both toys are wrong in that regard.

Color shade-wise, however, Takara's has the better brown vs. Hasbro's shade of grayish tan that Rhinox never had in the show.

How do you mean the hasbro one is shiny? I never noticed it, it could be a natural quality of the plastic color.

I have both Rhinoxes and Hasbro's is glossy and reflective of light just like Takara's.

Huh, well I guess that it was the metallic brown of the legends rhinox that put me off, b/c it was metallic on purpose.

I also thinks he is referring to the robot mode which is indeed quite shiny.

Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

Sabrblade wrote:Nope, I mean the rhino skin parts. Neither Hasbro nor Takara made Rhinox's green robot parts shiny.

I find that gold shinier than the beige. But thats just me. Also, I preffer the dark brown, it is more show accurate. But as I said, he and Gelshark are just a few that really look different from Takara to Hasbro. The rest are less obvious. Also, I find the shininess really doesnt work on Takara's Blitzwing. I also was not fond of their AM 31 Megatron. That thing was way too shiny.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

I'm dissapointed too. I would have preffered a matte version of the takara colors.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

Which figures?

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Having looked at both, while the hasbro one is glossy, it is not metallic like TT's

"Metallic" is not a color, though.

No, but it describes a color that looks like polished metal in it's reflectivity, I use that type of color in my art a lot;

I don't really wanna keep arguing with ya, you're a great guy, and I respect you, so: It's a draw, they were both kind of a let down in the color department

Which figures?

Hasbro and TT rhinox

I'm fine with the Hasbro Rhinox colours in general as they complement the Original toy - however if they ever decide to reissue him I'd not mind a slightly grayer matt plastic for the Rhino Mode with some subtle pain accents to make him look nicely realistic as a Rhino and then on the interlimb parts the shiny paint effect Takara uses from time to time - not an out and out chrome look but just something with a sheen and shine to it to represent the CGI look.

In a way it's a shame that Transformers got so expensive that it makes boxed gift sets of random stuff impractical it might have been fun to see some of the Generations/TT-Legends toys in some of the more Eccentric alternative colour options like the Fox Kids colours for example.

Hopefully one day there will be a nice modern T-Rex Megatron in a decent size... Leader might be to big though he really needs to be a bit bigger than the old Ultra but not by much.

Perhaps the only way the design would be proper good though is if it's a Masterpiece like (Beast Convoy) Optimus Primal is going to be.

Wait TT Rhinox's legs are tighter. I'm now kind of tempted to pick one up. I finally got to get Hasbro's Magnus so as much as I like the figure I don't know if I want the mold twice. Even with the new shiny paint job. I'm also not sure about the Alpha Trion either.