More Images of Studio Series Leader Class ROTB Scourge Showing Size Comparisons
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Posted by Emerje on January 12th, 2023 @ 7:49am CST
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Posted by william-james88 on January 12th, 2023 @ 8:11am CST
MeGrimlock78 wrote:With that head and claw arm, I get Animated Lockdown vibes.
The kibble on the back of the alt mode bugs me, but maybe in hand I would be able to ignore it more (as is often the case when handling a toy versus scrutinizing an image for flaws)
The back of the alt mode can clean up nicely. Better than what we got lately (I just could not get over that Galvatron in hand)
What you saw in the first pics is them trying to recreate the look in the film where he has a bunch of scrap in the back.My issue with the alt mode is that gap/hole around the nose area.
blackeyedprime wrote:Truckertron looks pretty good. Think I'm going to skip rotb toys though I'm buying enough hasbro lines as is, happy to pass on live action stuff until they revamp the directions they keep going in.
What other lines do you buy? While the other lines do tempt me, I always feel ripped off when looking at the price, especially for Star Wars stuff (in either scale).
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 12th, 2023 @ 8:14am CST
Posted by Richeetf on January 12th, 2023 @ 10:03am CST
Posted by griftimus prime on January 12th, 2023 @ 10:13am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:20pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:26pm CST
william-james88 wrote:What you saw in the first pics is them trying to recreate the look in the film where he has a bunch of scrap in the back.My issue with the alt mode is that gap/hole around the nose area.
yegah that looks pretty bad or obvious, seeing the movie pic the barrel not being under the smoke stacks/no door step probaly due to transformation looks off too. At least if the door step was in the right place the barrels could be improvised/upgraded.
william-james88 wrote:What other lines do you buy? While the other lines do tempt me, I always feel ripped off when looking at the price, especially for Star Wars stuff (in either scale).
The price creeps on all hasbro stuff is even more offputting but I think I've just been a bit transformered out recently -I like some TF toys in every range from botbots, rescuebots to SS or MP.
My other Hasbro stuff is
Power Rangers lightning collection,
GI joe classified even if they dont want people outside the states collecting them,
GI Joe original scale (not bothered if O-ring or not),
D&D cartoon and others (I'll wait to get Huge Grunt cheap to have him forever melting inside the gelatinous cube),
Recently started on marvel legends because I'm an idiot,
also started on Star Wars Retro because of how bad modern media for star wars is to me and I have had all the POTF vehicles I gave to my son come back to me for storage (slave 1, falcon, queens spaceship etc). I was happy enough with having the WOTC minis before another moment of madness.
I'm even tempted for some of the Indy stuff
Also on a side note, I saw in a store today the star wars vintage collection Bo Katana? spelling unknown to me, and her arms can give any optimus primal a challange in ape like proprtions eeeeeewwww.
Posted by Starseeker on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:47pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm liking that Scourge (even if the head is giving me Gladiator vibes)
I got Gladiator vibes as well. Also reminds me of the Witch King of Angmar from LOTR.
Posted by william-james88 on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll never understand why Hasbro doesn't put its foot down with the movie designers when it comes to the models they're shown. Hasbro should tell them that whatever designs are shown have to be final so they can have the product out at the same time as the movie that LOOKS like it came from the movie. Transformers is Hasbro's property, they should have more control.
Which specific toy are you referring to? Scourge and Arcee look pretty close to what we've seen. I ask because the discrepancy may simply be due to toy limitations and not the time factor. Like Scourge's truck mode. That didn't change and yet we see some innacuracies, like the missing gas tank.
Though I am curious to see how wildly different some toys get from the final designs, like all the Hatter toys in the BB line having that mask that she never has in the film.
Posted by angtre on January 12th, 2023 @ 1:52pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 12th, 2023 @ 2:02pm CST
Like a corrupted, decayed version of Prime.
Also, that face / mask, am I the only one getting an evil Autobot logo vibe form it?
I'm surprised there's no comparison to DoTM Megatron.
Posted by Flashwave on January 12th, 2023 @ 2:37pm CST
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll never understand why Hasbro doesn't put its foot down with the movie designers when it comes to the models they're shown. Hasbro should tell them that whatever designs are shown have to be final so they can have the product out at the same time as the movie that LOOKS like it came from the movie. Transformers is Hasbro's property, they should have more control.
Which specific toy are you referring to? Scourge and Arcee look pretty close to what we've seen. I ask because the discrepancy may simply be due to toy limitations and not the time factor. Like Scourge's truck mode. That didn't change and yet we see some innacuracies, like the missing gas tank.
Though I am curious to see how wildly different some toys get from the final designs, like all the Hatter toys in the BB line having that mask that she never has in the film.
It's entirely down to production times. Most toys take 18months to a year to develop or so we have been told. Movie production takes that long, but there is a lot of stuff constantly in motion, so for Hollywood that much lead time is FOREVER.
I don't think Hasbro wants to jeopardize their relationship with Paramount. They aren't in this to tell a story so they want it to be successful, and KIDS aren't going to (as a whole) care about relatively minor detail inaccuracies. Maybe there is compromise, in that Hasbro can design the body and hold off as long as possible for head sculpts, but if I am thinking of this then I am sure they are too. Maybe not though.
Posted by First-Aid on January 12th, 2023 @ 3:07pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 12th, 2023 @ 3:27pm CST
Just add some flames all around him and he's a dead ringer for The Fallen:
Posted by cloudballoon on January 12th, 2023 @ 4:56pm CST
Unless a final trailer/movie comes out and it looks really accurate, I'm not pre-ordering.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 12th, 2023 @ 7:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll never understand why Hasbro doesn't put its foot down with the movie designers when it comes to the models they're shown. Hasbro should tell them that whatever designs are shown have to be final so they can have the product out at the same time as the movie that LOOKS like it came from the movie. Transformers is Hasbro's property, they should have more control.
Which specific toy are you referring to? Scourge and Arcee look pretty close to what we've seen. I ask because the discrepancy may simply be due to toy limitations and not the time factor. Like Scourge's truck mode. That didn't change and yet we see some innacuracies, like the missing gas tank.
Though I am curious to see how wildly different some toys get from the final designs, like all the Hatter toys in the BB line having that mask that she never has in the film.
I was talking more broadly across the movies. I know it's a pipe dream but something could be done.
Posted by Emerje on January 12th, 2023 @ 7:53pm CST
Flashwave wrote:I don't think Hasbro wants to jeopardize their relationship with Paramount. They aren't in this to tell a story so they want it to be successful, and KIDS aren't going to (as a whole) care about relatively minor detail inaccuracies. Maybe there is compromise, in that Hasbro can design the body and hold off as long as possible for head sculpts, but if I am thinking of this then I am sure they are too. Maybe not though.
Paramount is just the distributor, they're not part of the production. Heck, Hasbro has basically been using their own production companies since Dark of the Moon (Dreamworks was only involved in the first two movies).
Emerje
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 12th, 2023 @ 8:04pm CST
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Posted by Dominus Prime on January 12th, 2023 @ 10:32pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 13th, 2023 @ 12:52am CST
Dominus Prime wrote:I totally agree with the animated lockdown reference. It was exactly what I thought also. I also find it interesting that his mask looks like a slight variation of the autobot symbol. Like tarn with the deception mask
Now I can't unsee Lockdown, truck edition. Not only does he have the skinny legs, he does have the same silhouette for the head!
Posted by High_Q on January 13th, 2023 @ 2:49am CST
Posted by albnok on January 13th, 2023 @ 3:31am CST
william-james88 wrote:[url=https://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1673530298-325141361-736149154597677-7174538779481635577-n.jpg]
Who is that white stealth-bomber-like jet? I can't figure out the right Google keywords to find it myself.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 13th, 2023 @ 4:13am CST
It's a redeco of Revenge of the Fallen scout class Skystalker, called Sunspot. A fantastic little guy, really fun to mess around with. The mold can also connect to the Voyager Class Mindwipe (and all redecos of course) that debuted in the same line.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2023 @ 11:07am CST
DAMN!!! Scourge looks great! That is exactly what I wanted to see in a Scourge toy. He is looks really cool, unsettling, asymmetrical, freaky, lanky, and scary. That is a good looking toy! I am SO glad we are fading away from the Bee movie cybertron scenes, those just did not work that well, and were so boring compared to what we can get when we start getting original like this again.
They have not missed with a Terrorcon yet, all 4 seen so far truly look like a lot of fun. I am excited!
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 13th, 2023 @ 12:46pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Arcee looks a lot better when properly transformed. Sam should just provide the reveal pictures so we get proper images right off the bat
DAMN!!! Scourge looks great! That is exactly what I wanted to see in a Scourge toy. He is looks really cool, unsettling, asymmetrical, freaky, lanky, and scary. That is a good looking toy! I am SO glad we are fading away from the Bee movie cybertron scenes, those just did not work that well, and were so boring compared to what we can get when we start getting original like this again.
They have not missed with a Terrorcon yet, all 4 seen so far truly look like a lot of fun. I am excited!
I concur, I'm loving these designs too.
Posted by william-james88 on January 15th, 2023 @ 12:03am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2023 @ 12:59am CST
Posted by Bounti76 on January 17th, 2023 @ 2:04pm CST
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Posted by DeathReviews on January 17th, 2023 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 17th, 2023 @ 2:37pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Is this a really heavily remolded version of Kingdom Airazor? It seems to have a lot of the elements, and the way everything transforms seems to mirror the Kingdom WFC Deluxe. The bird head folds down into the chest, the arms seem to tuck into the bird body like the Kingdom figure, and it's got the same triple jointed legs with clawed feet, albiet molded very differently...
Pretty much, while I don't think it's a retool, it's definitely a case of shared engineering.
Posted by Overcracker on January 17th, 2023 @ 2:44pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Is this a really heavily remolded version of Kingdom Airazor? It seems to have a lot of the elements, and the way everything transforms seems to mirror the Kingdom WFC Deluxe. The bird head folds down into the chest, the arms seem to tuck into the bird body like the Kingdom figure, and it's got the same triple jointed legs with clawed feet, albiet molded very differently...
Its not a remold at all.
It shares a ton of engineering, with Kingdom AirRazor, but is significantly larger.
It basically uses the same transformation and parts only scaled up a bit, so a different larger mold.
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:10pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:27pm CST
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Man, those are some big legs in falcon mode. Honestly looks half-transformed, or some sort of gerwalk mode.
Yes, it's very mistransformed if we assume it transforms the same way as Kingdom Airrazor. The torso should be slid down closer to the legs, and the legs should be tucked into the body more.
Posted by DeathReviews on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:33pm CST
Overcracker wrote:MeGrimlock78 wrote:Man, those are some big legs in falcon mode. Honestly looks half-transformed, or some sort of gerwalk mode.
Yes, it's very mistransformed if we assume it transforms the same way as Kingdom Airrazor. The torso should be slid down closer to the legs, and the legs should be tucked into the body more.
It wouldn't be the first time that even the 'official' photos had a figure mis-transformed. I guess 'shared engineering' is closer to the mark than remolded, given it is larger and all...
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:44pm CST
It's basically the same case as these two:DeathReviews wrote:I guess 'shared engineering' is closer to the mark than remolded, given it is larger and all...
Different molds, but one apes the transformation engineering of the other.
Posted by o.supreme on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:49pm CST
Also , these examples show that even at the same Price point, Hasbro/TT scan even slightly scale up and down on things. I'm keeping that in mind for possible future TF's that are too small, or too big.
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 17th, 2023 @ 3:59pm CST
Posted by Cheetron on January 17th, 2023 @ 4:04pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 17th, 2023 @ 4:08pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2023 @ 4:43pm CST
Well, BW Airazor was male in Japan, so it's not like the original Airazor was always only a female anyway.Cheetron wrote:I'm getting male transformer vibes from this one. Big, kinda bulky. Not airrazor to me
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2023 @ 5:21pm CST
o.supreme wrote:So now only 94, and 98 (as far as skipped numbers) are unknown.
Also , these examples show that even at the same Price point, Hasbro/TT scan even slightly scale up and down on things. I'm keeping that in mind for possible future TF's that are too small, or too big.
almost as if its parts count and R&D that determine the price point and not the size, something they've told us for years now
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2023 @ 5:30pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Is this a really heavily remolded version of Kingdom Airazor? It seems to have a lot of the elements, and the way everything transforms seems to mirror the Kingdom WFC Deluxe. The bird head folds down into the chest, the arms seem to tuck into the bird body like the Kingdom figure, and it's got the same triple jointed legs with clawed feet, albiet molded very differently...
We've seen this for a few figures now. With the advent of CAD files, you can reuse transfomation more easily to make a new toy that has a very similar transformation to another one. It's not a remold in the sense that any aspect of the previous actual mold was used, but more like a reskin using the previous CAD files, which then leads to a fully new mold.
Posted by First-Aid on January 17th, 2023 @ 5:32pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 17th, 2023 @ 6:41pm CST
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So now only 94, and 98 (as far as skipped numbers) are unknown.
Also , these examples show that even at the same Price point, Hasbro/TT scan even slightly scale up and down on things. I'm keeping that in mind for possible future TF's that are too small, or too big.
almost as if its parts count and R&D that determine the price point and not the size, something they've told us for years now
I was thinking more along the lines of... With the case of CW/UW Devastator. I like the toy well enough, but I prefer a smaller one that scaled with the rest of the CW/UW combiners. There was a scaled down KO that met that need that I purchased, but for the longest time, we were always told Hasbro couldn't just "scale up" or "scale down" the design and re release a toy at a different size. Now they may not WANT to, but this shows they clearly CAN do it...
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 17th, 2023 @ 7:04pm CST
o.supreme wrote:So now only 94, and 98 (as far as skipped numbers) are unknown.
Also , these examples show that even at the same Price point, Hasbro/TT scan even slightly scale up and down on things. I'm keeping that in mind for possible future TF's that are too small, or too big.
I am guessing 94 is Buzzworthy Hatchet and 98 is the 3rd deluxe of the wave.
First-Aid wrote:I'm loving the little details on this figure. The feathers, the bolts on the face...this is a must for me. Very nicely done.
Agreed, I really like it.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on January 17th, 2023 @ 7:28pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2023 @ 9:33pm CST
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:So now only 94, and 98 (as far as skipped numbers) are unknown.
Also , these examples show that even at the same Price point, Hasbro/TT scan even slightly scale up and down on things. I'm keeping that in mind for possible future TF's that are too small, or too big.
almost as if its parts count and R&D that determine the price point and not the size, something they've told us for years now
I was thinking more along the lines of... With the case of CW/UW Devastator. I like the toy well enough, but I prefer a smaller one that scaled with the rest of the CW/UW combiners. There was a scaled down KO that met that need that I purchased, but for the longest time, we were always told Hasbro couldn't just "scale up" or "scale down" the design and re release a toy at a different size. Now they may not WANT to, but this shows they clearly CAN do it...
Right, I get you.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2023 @ 10:34am CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 18th, 2023 @ 1:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:You know, given what we've seen of Airazor and Cheetor thus far, we can probably expect toys of Optimus Primal and Rhinox to also share transformation engineering with their respective Kingdom toys.
We can expect engineering sharing for the SS figures. Likely new or at least significantly altered molds for mainline as has been seen with Air Razor.
Still haven't seen one of the Cheetors. Wether the one we have seen is mainline or SS I don't think has been confirmed.
Expect Rhinox and Primal in SS to share some degree of engineering with Kingdom Rhinos and Primal. Which isn not a bad thing.
Kingdom Primal is pretty good. If they enlarge him like they did with AiRazor, I would approve.
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2023 @ 5:48pm CST
Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You know, given what we've seen of Airazor and Cheetor thus far, we can probably expect toys of Optimus Primal and Rhinox to also share transformation engineering with their respective Kingdom toys.
We can expect engineering sharing for the SS figures. Likely new or at least significantly altered molds for mainline as has been seen with Air Razor.
Still haven't seen one of the Cheetors. Wether the one we have seen is mainline or SS I don't think has been confirmed.
Expect Rhinox and Primal in SS to share some degree of engineering with Kingdom Rhinos and Primal. Which isn not a bad thing.
Kingdom Primal is pretty good. If they enlarge him like they did with AiRazor, I would approve.
I can confirm, the cheetor we gave seen is mainline, not SS. Also, in total honesty, I don't see much sharing, even transformation wise between Kingdom Cheetor and ROTB Cheetor.