More Images Of Forthcoming Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag

Okay, so the question on how the tail would look without the gun has been answered, it won't look good, but not a deal breaker by any means for me.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
No worries, in fact, I do agree with most of what you and even sol magnus have indicated. Raging gewunners was a bit of an overkill, and none are really raging. But I can also have some sympathy for those who really are only into the studio series line and can definitely understand their frustration, that appears to be where many "geewunners" fall short.

I can even understand when lead to D-Max's post in the first place.

Imagine if you were really into the live movie line. Since SS Devastator was released in October, there have been only 4 new live movie bots released (2 of them retools/redecos), Bee in Jan/Feb under the buzzworthy bee heading and just this month Starscream, B-127 and Dino. You find one and want to come on one of your favorite sites and discuss it. You make a post and then someone finds the leaked photo of Slag and posts it next.

Nobody even sees or responds to your post about Dino because 3 whole pages of discussion on Slag and the rest of the G1 dinobots immediately followed.

The live movies fans have been essentially displaced from the only forum they were really part of.

Hasbro created the mess by their completely disorganized approach to WFC, its just unfortunate that those fans of the live movies are catching the brunt of it.

That is why I'm happy to have a split thread. While I certainly want to talk about G1 stuff, I also want to talk about live movie bots as well. A single thread and the relative numbers basically squeezed out the movie line discussion completely.

Don't get me wrong... There are legit frustrations for movie figure fans. No doubt about it.
I'm sure some may have felt displaced from that thread, but it was more that it was a larger channel if you will... There were plenty of back and forth posts in terms of line, figures, etc.
And with what was one thread, what did people expect? It definitely speaks pretty loudly that there would be 3+ pages of people wanting to talk about a leader class show-styled G1 Dinobot...
Because here's what people tend to forget or at least overlook-- it's been 30+ years since some of us have been waiting for a figures of this calibur for Grimlock, Slag, and the other Dinobots. Not everyone had original G1 toys of these characters. The previous versions now look pretty mehhh compared to these in SS86, especially the Classics Grimlock... Which was the only really updated Dinobot before PotP (I don't count TF Animated as updates).
Besides it being 4 years since PotP, obviously Hastak thought this was a good idea. Also, a BETTER idea than completing which ever movie lines are still incomplete.
I guess I'm saying complaining about the old thread is one thing. Complaining about not getting movie figures soon enough... We could all complain about not getting certain figures soon enough.
But why???

From these new images of Slag--
Imo the shoulders are a bit wide, even considering his height... He is one broad bot.
What's more unfortunate to me is that the tail does look incomplete without the gun placed under/at the end. Wish they would've figured out how to attach that on the underside and just finish out the tail properly.
The faux chest piece doesn't bother me one bit... The dino jaw hinging down and being that piece would've looked silly to the point of stupid. I know plenty of people hate this aspect of a figure, but to me it's more than worth it.
Does look like there is a blast effects peg in the back of the mouth and at the end of the gun.
Daniel will stay in the box. But oh well, Slag is so worth it to me.

Overall these just get me more excited for this figure and the rest of them.
Hastak has gained a lot of my confidence that the other 3 will be done really well.

Slag look beefy, powerful, and AS BIG AS GRIMLOCK!
About time!

Let's hope the rest of the Dinobots will follow quickly enough. Meaning, having all five in around a year.

Seeing that the Wheelie accessory (yes, accessory. Not a figure. ) is included with him, I wonder if they will repaint/retool that thing into a wide variety of characters or things to go with the other Dinobots? And if yes, who or what will they be? One Sam for sure, but the rest?

ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Following on from the new images of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (and Daniel), Facebook page, DaimChocReports, has shared more new images!

Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Mindmaster, for sharing this news with us.

The true source of these pictures is unknown at this juncture, but if you know (or are) the true source then let us know so we can credit you appropriately.

These latest images show a better comparison with the already released, Leader Class Grimlock, and a look inside the Dinobots mouth to see his trademark flamethrowers (which look yo be blast effect compatible).







What do you think of these new images? Will you be having this Dinobot politely stepping on Quintesson followers?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

He looks like he's a tad shorter, so Rodimus Prime should be happy!

Wolfman Jake wrote:I know he won't appear in the Studio Series '86 line, but I hope we get a repaint of Jazz as Ricochet (aka, Stepper) sooner rather than later, to go with the rumored upcoming Artfire redeco of Kingdom G1 Inferno. I hope we get a couple of redecoed Battle Masters to go with them too as their G1 Targetmaster partners. Even if Hasbro intends not to use any "Studio Series" molds in the "Generations Selects" line, there's always those Amazon.com special multi-packs and offshoots like the "Galactic Odyssey Collection" or rumored "Golden Disk Collection."

I don't see why Studio Series couldn't be in Generations Selects if Shattered Glass Blurr is a direct repaint/retool of Studio Series Blurr. I love the Battlemaster idea, too. I didn't get the original Ricochet because I think one PotP Jazz is honestly one too many and I have that one, but it seems to me now would be a better time to put Stepper out if they're going to do an Artfire - question is will they double dip on Ricochet/Stepper?

Shattered Glass Blurr is a surprise but I wish it was SG Rodimus instead. Slag looks freaking awesome and he has his flamethrower tongue which is extra nice.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I know he won't appear in the Studio Series '86 line, but I hope we get a repaint of Jazz as Ricochet (aka, Stepper) sooner rather than later, to go with the rumored upcoming Artfire redeco of Kingdom G1 Inferno. I hope we get a couple of redecoed Battle Masters to go with them too as their G1 Targetmaster partners. Even if Hasbro intends not to use any "Studio Series" molds in the "Generations Selects" line, there's always those Amazon.com special multi-packs and offshoots like the "Galactic Odyssey Collection" or rumored "Golden Disk Collection."

I definitely see them released as a two-pack, just makes sense as it would make Hauler perfect for a single release. I really hope we get a new Targetmaster mold for them that matches the G1 Targetmaster better or just re-re-re-release the old Nightstick mold from Classics, I think the head can peg into the wrist post on the Artfire mold.

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Following on from the new images of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (and Daniel), Facebook page, DaimChocReports, has shared more new images!

Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Mindmaster, for sharing this news with us.

The true source of these pictures is unknown at this juncture, but if you know (or are) the true source then let us know so we can credit you appropriately.

These latest images show a better comparison with the already released, Leader Class Grimlock, and a look inside the Dinobots mouth to see his trademark flamethrowers (which look yo be blast effect compatible).







What do you think of these new images? Will you be having this Dinobot politely stepping on Quintesson followers?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

He looks like he's a tad shorter, so Rodimus Prime should be happy!

I think Slag has been posed in a wider stance...
I think he’s just as tall as Grimlock.
Which I’m more than okay with!!!!

OK. I am going to start this post with an apology.

Soundwave76 and Sol Magnus, I am sorry for my outburst earlier this week. I really am. That was an airing of dirty laundry from my time as a staff member that was held for a while and aggravated by time. I am sorry you both ended up taking the brunt of that. I was not trying to attack either of you.

That said, TF-fan kev777 is right about the movie fans. I will tell you this, and it might not be something either of you know since you don't venture into movie threads a lot, but there used to be a lot more of us. There are 3 prominent members to be that used to post here all the time and are still pretty good friends with me on social media. The reason they left was the unwelcome atmosphere to movie fans. The most prominent guy was responsible for at least 5-7 posts a day for a good while, before he was attacked for his views on both some TLK toys and some first year SS figures. He left because he finally got tired of defending the bots and movies he loved.

I personally endured a lot of vitriol when I joined this site as a movie fan, and endured similar things in other transformers sites and social media pages as well. I have stayed where a lot of others have left, and i would lie if I said that that experience and the experience of others I consider friends have left me a bit bitter.

There are not that many of us movie fans left on this site. And those that are, we are the vocal ones because we have tried so hard to stay and still enjoy things here. "attacks" by live action fans may seem disproportionate now, but that's because others AKA movie-haters have already basically chased the rest away.

And honestly, when the one real thread you have left is basically taken over by non-movie fans, it is disheartening. They may be one line, but it took away a lot of what was left for live action fans.

I don't hate G1. I have enjoyed and continue to enjoy toys from all ages of the fandom. But when you are on such a long straight stretch of G1, some of us who did not grow up with it are right and proper burned out. I have preached something new or at least a celebration of different eras, which Kingdom has finally given, but still kept the same G1 output. It isn't solving that burnout issue. And I don't want to be burned out on Transformers.

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All that said, to Slag: he just seems too wide and too red. I wish the dino jaw actually became the chest, like Kingdom Rhinox that feels like a cheat with how simple that should be honestly. I might get him, but he feels like he should be better proportioned and integrated.

I was "born" in the original G1 era, and the Bayverse "resurected me".
So I'm a hardcore fan of both!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK. I am going to start this post with an apology.

Soundwave76 and Sol Magnus, I am sorry for my outburst earlier this week. I really am. That was an airing of dirty laundry from my time as a staff member that was held for a while and aggravated by time. I am sorry you both ended up taking the brunt of that. I was not trying to attack either of you.

I saw that post, and honestly, I don't think you owe me any apology. You didn't direct anything to me or anything I really took offense to. Issues with being staff certainly aren't any of my business. It's all good. My issue was with the other guy.

I get your frustration reading your above post. I personally have not and will not insult othr parts of the fandom, because at the end of the day, it's all Transformers.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I was "born" in the original G1 era, and the Bayverse "resurected me".
So I'm a hardcore fan of both!

I still listen to the 2007 movie soundtrack. LOL

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I was "born" in the original G1 era, and the Bayverse "resurected me".
So I'm a hardcore fan of both!

I still listen to the 2007 movie soundtrack. LOL

"What I've done" is the only song I keep on my playlist from the Minutes to Midnight album.

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I was "born" in the original G1 era, and the Bayverse "resurected me".
So I'm a hardcore fan of both!

I still listen to the 2007 movie soundtrack. LOL

"What I've done" is the only song I keep on my playlist from the Minutes to Midnight album.

"This Moment" is my other favorite.

@ D Max:

No worries. The apology is appreciated, but as sol said, not necessary.
I will totally admit that I didn’t completely understand the level of frustration you & other movie figure fans are going through. And I may not ever completely understand.
I’m sorry that you & others ever took crap for being fans of SS...
That’s just dumb, & honestly really kinda pisses me off.
I’m not trying to go all counselor-therapist in here, but that’s basically 1 degree off of cyber bullying.
Which is absolute bullsh!t, and lame, and weak.
Since joining back in ‘07, I have taken lengthy time away from the forums (& site) multiple times.
So while me saying I hadn’t seen anything like what you described is still true, I also didn’t have the full picture. At all.
Btw, I don’t hate the SS line. And I hope I haven’t come off like that.
With more $$$ & space I’d have quite a few of the Decepticon figures.

Sowndwave76 wrote:With more $$$ & space I’d have quite a few of the Decepticon figures.

If I see a Prime from before TLK that I can live with, I'll certainly pick up for my Prime shelf.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, so the question on how the tail would look without the gun has been answered, it won't look good, but not a deal breaker by any means for me.

Hmm, not a dealbreaker for me either, but I’m not so sure about the tail just hanging down the back in bot form.

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:With more $$$ & space I’d have quite a few of the Decepticon figures.

If I see a Prime from before TLK that I can live with, I'll certainly pick up for my Prime shelf.

If for some reason you don't have him, the original 2007 leader is awesome looking in both modes and he's fun to handle like a Cybertron toy. Screw screen accuracy!

But since it's the '86 thread and speaking of Prime, I wonder how a SS86 Optimus Prime would look like? The easy route would be a repaint/retool of the ER mold. I'd see a heavily damaged Optimus at the end of his duel with Megatron.

And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:With more $$$ & space I’d have quite a few of the Decepticon figures.

If I see a Prime from before TLK that I can live with, I'll certainly pick up for my Prime shelf.

If for some reason you don't have him, the original 2007 leader is awesome looking in both modes and he's fun to handle like a Cybertron toy. Screw screen accuracy!

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That's the one I had. He was worth so much money, though, so I sold him. And he was fine, until they started making screen accurate ones.

Of course, now we're doing the inverse of what was going on in the original thread.

I spotted Hot Rod in the store today, paired with Bumblebee Starscream, so Scourge is out.

Sowndwave76 wrote:@ D Max:

No worries. The apology is appreciated, but as sol said, not necessary.
I will totally admit that I didn’t completely understand the level of frustration you & other movie figure fans are going through. And I may not ever completely understand.
I’m sorry that you & others ever took crap for being fans of SS...
That’s just dumb, & honestly really kinda pisses me off.
I’m not trying to go all counselor-therapist in here, but that’s basically 1 degree off of cyber bullying.
Which is absolute bullsh!t, and lame, and weak.
Since joining back in ‘07, I have taken lengthy time away from the forums (& site) multiple times.
So while me saying I hadn’t seen anything like what you described is still true, I also didn’t have the full picture. At all.
Btw, I don’t hate the SS line. And I hope I haven’t come off like that.
With more $$$ & space I’d have quite a few of the Decepticon figures.

I will say, in my experience, most of the Seibertron community is more accepting of the movie fans, but sites like TFW, Reddit, and Twitter definitely are still alive with hate for the Bay movies, and anyone who enjoys watching them, which only got worse when people were buying SS figures while Hasbro was crowd-funding Unicron. It's gotten better as people have been getting more of what they want from HasTak, but every once in a great while you'll still see someone make comments about how "Bayverse figures are such wastes of plastic. Just give me an obscure character, like Skids!" on Twitter. Like I said, Seibertron is definitely one of the better places, but there was still hate comments up until about 2 years into Studio Serues when the haters realized it wasn't ending soon

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

Solution: Takara makes it and Hasbro just acts as an "importer" with an orange cap like MP36 had

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

Solution: Takara makes it and Hasbro just acts as an "importer" with an orange cap like MP36 had

Did Hasbro Pulse offer MP-36?

Sabrblade wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

Solution: Takara makes it and Hasbro just acts as an "importer" with an orange cap like MP36 had

Did Hasbro Pulse offer MP-36?

Not as far as I'm aware, but the usual importers did, at the cost of including an orange cap that plugged into the barrel. I was mostly joking when I suggested it because I doubt we'll ever see Megs turn into a gun in a toyline again outside of MP

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Not as far as I'm aware, but the usual importers did, at the cost of including an orange cap that plugged into the barrel. I was mostly joking when I suggested it because I doubt we'll ever see Megs turn into a gun in a toyline again outside of MP

I doubt it too, but I'll never say "never."
This will be in Takara's hands for sure.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

Solution: Takara makes it and Hasbro just acts as an "importer" with an orange cap like MP36 had

Did Hasbro Pulse offer MP-36?

Not as far as I'm aware, but the usual importers did, at the cost of including an orange cap that plugged into the barrel. I was mostly joking when I suggested it because I doubt we'll ever see Megs turn into a gun in a toyline again outside of MP

They could always make it a submarine or space ship.

With Slag coming out sometime around July-Sept (preorder dates from different places were obvsly not the same),
This means Sweeps, Wreck-gar, & Gnaw will be released before the end of this year, right?
Is Coronation SS rumored to be a Selects figure?

Sowndwave76 wrote:With Slag coming out sometime around July-Sept (preorder dates from different places were obvsly not the same),
This means Sweeps, Wreck-gar, & Gnaw will be released before the end of this year, right?
Is Coronation SS rumored to be a Selects figure?

Yes, if they come out as the SS pattern has been, they will all be released sometime this Fall, probably around September

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:With Slag coming out sometime around July-Sept (preorder dates from different places were obvsly not the same),
This means Sweeps, Wreck-gar, & Gnaw will be released before the end of this year, right?
Is Coronation SS rumored to be a Selects figure?

Yes, if they come out as the SS pattern has been, they will all be released sometime this Fall, probably around September

Actually we have some tentatively confirmed already based on the amazon listings.

They are grouped with some regular SS bots based on Amazon's date, which always seem to be a little later then they show up in stores.

Leaders SS86 Slag and SS Grindor, Voyager SS Thrust(Bee movie), and deluxes SS86 Gnaw and SS Jolt are all dated for August

Voyager SS86 Sweep and Deluxe SS Sideswipe are slated for November.

What is interesting there is that both dates have incomplete Voyager and Deluxe cases. The August grouping should have 1 more voyager and 2 more deluxes and the November batch should have 1 more voyager and 1 more deluxe unless they go the repack route, which is possible with Gnaw.

Does anyone think Gnaw will be a new, improved mold from any in the past?
I have 100% decided to pass on Blurr. And if I can’t get Kup on a great sale, him too.
I’ve already preordered 2 Sweeps...
And if Gmaw if good enough, since I may be passing on Blurr & Kup, I could honestly see getting 3.
Funny thing is he may be literally the only figure where I’m more concerned about the look of his alt mode more than the bot mode...
Or wait... They were in beast mode more than bot mode... Does that make their robot mode their “alt mode”???

Sowndwave76 wrote:Does anyone think Gnaw will be a new, improved mold from any in the past?
I have 100% decided to pass on Blurr. And if I can’t get Kup on a great sale, him too.
I’ve already preordered 2 Sweeps...
And if Gmaw if good enough, since I may be passing on Blurr & Kup, I could honestly see getting 3.
Funny thing is he may be literally the only figure where I’m more concerned about the look of his alt mode more than the bot mode...
Or wait... They were in beast mode more than bot mode... Does that make their robot mode their “alt mode”???

Gnaw will be a new mold, pretty sure of that.

Sowndwave76 wrote:With Slag coming out sometime around July-Sept (preorder dates from different places were obvsly not the same),
This means Sweeps, Wreck-gar, & Gnaw will be released before the end of this year, right?
Is Coronation SS rumored to be a Selects figure?

Coronation SS is a normal retail Voyager (jury is out on new mold or retooled Earthrise Starscream)

I suspect Gnaw, like everything else in SS, will be more screen accurate in bot mode and not have little arms sticking out of his feet like the last two attempts.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:With Slag coming out sometime around July-Sept (preorder dates from different places were obvsly not the same),
This means Sweeps, Wreck-gar, & Gnaw will be released before the end of this year, right?
Is Coronation SS rumored to be a Selects figure?

Coronation SS is a normal retail Voyager (jury is out on new mold or retooled Earthrise Starscream)

I figured that Blurr couldn't be the only re-paint/re-tool figure in SS86...
My bet is that SS will be the exact same as ER... I'm not even sure I believe they will have done any re-tooling of the shoulders.
Between the crown, shoulder pieces, and cape, I also won't be surprised if this doesn't come with any other extras such as blast effect pieces...

The only thing that would entice me to buy this figure would be IF they have substantially decreased the amount of Siege greebling... Although, at the same time, it would set up Hastak for future releases of the other "SS86" seekers down the road.

I have Gnaw on preorder, but I'm already preparing myself to cancel...
Obviously I hope he's a great figure.
While I'm really happy with the figures that I like from this line, the others have been letdowns imo...
4/6 have been great. I guess you could say 5/7 now that we've seen Slag.
There's just enough of doubt in my mind that I'm prepared to be letdown by Gnaw, and even Wreck-gar.

It will interesting to see how Gnaw is scaled... The bot mode seemed short and squatty... But the beast mode seemed to be of a decent size.

Sowndwave76 wrote:It will interesting to see how Gnaw is scaled... The bot mode seemed short and squatty... But the beast mode seemed to be of a decent size.

I would imagine he'd be scaled with the Allicon. They're pretty much the same size.

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:It will interesting to see how Gnaw is scaled... The bot mode seemed short and squatty... But the beast mode seemed to be of a decent size.

I would imagine he'd be scaled with the Allicon. They're pretty much the same size.

I thought the same.
I didn’t word it well in a previous post, but that’s why I was asking about a completely new mold for Gnaw...
Seems possible Gnaw could be a re-tool of the Allicon...
Especially since neither is very easy to repaint into a different character.

Anybody know of an upgrade kit for Grimlock to give him red eyes in both modes and articulated hands?

I think those are the only 2 things missing to make him truly exceptional.

I've already ordered Nonnefs kit for the sword and teeth.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:And speaking of Megatron, would they DARE make a SS86 Megatron that transform into a Walter P-38?

Not without facing some serious legal ramifications any recall the figure.

Or if they made it a Core class toy with an orange barrel.

They could always do a SS86 galvatron with Kingdoms being a bit of a mess and include the gun mode.

I'm really late to the party, but how would you guys rate SS Hot Rod? I've had all CHUG Hot Rods up to this point.. but not because I'm really a fan of him. Classics was my first (and he's possibly the worst aged Classic mold), I got TR because he was a vast improvement (but still flawed), and then PotP which was kinda equally flawed.
My main hold back with Roddy right now is his faux chest (faux parts are my greatest pet peeve).
Also, are Kup and Blurr good as well?

And one thing I'm not sure anyone's discussed yet: is Grimlock's neck molded in transparent plastic but painted over? I've always preferred the Dinobots to have their window bits.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:I'm really late to the party, but how would you guys rate SS Hot Rod? I've had all CHUG Hot Rods up to this point.. but not because I'm really a fan of him. Classics was my first (and he's possibly the worst aged Classic mold), I got TR because he was a vast improvement (but still flawed), and then PotP which was kinda equally flawed.
My main hold back with Roddy right now is his faux chest (faux parts are my greatest pet peeve).
Also, are Kup and Blurr good as well?

And one thing I'm not sure anyone's discussed yet: is Grimlock's neck molded in transparent plastic but painted over? I've always preferred the Dinobots to have their window bits.

You must really hate almost every single SS releases so far because most if not all movie bots have no choice but to have "fake chest" and "fake everything else" because black magic doesn't exist. I have SS86 Hot Rod and I just cannot understand how that "fake chest" freak people so much. It's completely absurd. Especially when the damn thing is a completely different shape and size as the car hood.

Anyway, not only does he have many accessories to recreate many scenes of the movie, SS86 Hotrod have an almost MP level of an accurate bot and car mode. The transformation is smooth and everything feel solid. He also have the cleanest back of every single other Hotrods so far, including both MP. It's a "deluxe" well worth the price of a voyager. He also have the "meat" to back it up.

Now, if only I could find Kup...

-Kanrabat- wrote:
You must really hate almost every single SS releases so far because most if not all movie bots have no choice but to have "fake chest" and "fake everything else" because black magic doesn't exist. I have SS86 Hot Rod and I just cannot understand how that "fake chest" freak people so much. It's completely absurd. Especially when the damn thing is a completely different shape and size as the car hood.

Ehh, with most Bayverse designs the faux parts just become "Assorted Robo-Giblets" so it's easier for me to justify. But with figures like the Runamuck duo, Siege Mirage, and Kingdom Tracks I don't get why they needed the faux parts. I'm just glad that after seven years we finally got a Prime with actual chest windows in Siege.

Also they just restocked SS86 on Pulse, so you could get Kup there.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
You must really hate almost every single SS releases so far because most if not all movie bots have no choice but to have "fake chest" and "fake everything else" because black magic doesn't exist. I have SS86 Hot Rod and I just cannot understand how that "fake chest" freak people so much. It's completely absurd. Especially when the damn thing is a completely different shape and size as the car hood.

Ehh, with most Bayverse designs the faux parts just become "Assorted Robo-Giblets" so it's easier for me to justify. But with figures like the Runamuck duo, Siege Mirage, and Kingdom Tracks I don't get why they needed the faux parts. I'm just glad that after seven years we finally got a Prime with actual chest windows in Siege.

Also they just restocked SS86 on Pulse, so you could get Kup there.

Gotta admit that for Mirage and Runamuck, it's a bit baffling. But Rodimus's clearly magically morph into something else entirely.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:I'm really late to the party, but how would you guys rate SS Hot Rod? I've had all CHUG Hot Rods up to this point.. but not because I'm really a fan of him. Classics was my first (and he's possibly the worst aged Classic mold), I got TR because he was a vast improvement (but still flawed), and then PotP which was kinda equally flawed.
My main hold back with Roddy right now is his faux chest (faux parts are my greatest pet peeve).
Also, are Kup and Blurr good as well?

And one thing I'm not sure anyone's discussed yet: is Grimlock's neck molded in transparent plastic but painted over? I've always preferred the Dinobots to have their window bits.

You must really hate almost every single SS releases so far because most if not all movie bots have no choice but to have "fake chest" and "fake everything else" because black magic doesn't exist. I have SS86 Hot Rod and I just cannot understand how that "fake chest" freak people so much. It's completely absurd. Especially when the damn thing is a completely different shape and size as the car hood.

That's why ar mode dropkick is so awesome.

Imo Hot Rod is one of the best (meaning top 4-5) in the recent lines.
I’ll also agree that I still can’t understand the issue with faux chests...
That’s not me saying I don’t have the capacity to comprehend someone else’s opinion...
I just don’t get why or how it bothers people so much.
Especially to the point it tops or is near the top of their list of priorities.

Either way, he’s one I would NOT pass on.
Along with
Cyclonus
Scourge
Grimlock
Jazz

There are plenty of others I like from ER...
But of SS86, Blurr is the one I know I’m not getting; unless I can get him for $10.
& I’m on the fence about Kup. I’ll also most likely wait until I can get him on sale... But imo he’s much better than Blurr. If I could get him for $13-$15 I’d be pretty happy.

G1 Powermaster Prime was my first Prime and not only did he not have the classic transformation but he had the first fake alt piece that I know of. Even as awesome as the set was, with base mode and super mode, I still felt cheated by the main Prime figure. If I had stayed collecting since then, I wonder if it would bother me to this day.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:It will interesting to see how Gnaw is scaled... The bot mode seemed short and squatty... But the beast mode seemed to be of a decent size.

I would imagine he'd be scaled with the Allicon. They're pretty much the same size.

I thought the same.
I didn’t word it well in a previous post, but that’s why I was asking about a completely new mold for Gnaw...
Seems possible Gnaw could be a re-tool of the Allicon...
Especially since neither is very easy to repaint into a different character.

We literally just got an allicon repaint/retool. So give Gnaw a new mold. They an alwayscredeco him for another miltipack.

I got Blurr the other day, and while I can see why people don't like him, I don't regret the purchase. He looks fine next to the other 1986 Autobots, the transformation is nice and involved but not too complicated, and the vehicle mode looks much nicer than the Titans Return Blurr. Not a bad figure, even if his face does look like SCP-035...

Just watched a review for the Nonnef Grimlock add-on kit.
For the forearm covers, chest piece (I went with the slightly tinted option), front teeth pieces, and sword I'm already glad it's on its way and feel it's worth the price.
The screw hole covers are a little bonus, and I don't really care about the crown. At all.
In fact, I wish they would've used that plastic for other covers/hole pieces.

@ Nuclearxpotato
I think you asked if Grimlock's neck has transparent plastic. It does not. Which is interesting that they decided to put the plastic piece over the Autobot symbol... It's a nice little touch, but not necessary. Mnius the chest (and some of the greebling, I suppose), this is based on the screen appearance, not the toy appearance.

I am definitely hoping that Gnaw is his own, new mold... However, I wouldn't doubt or actually be too letdown if he ended up being a retool of the Allicon.
When uses of molds allow for new figures that are more commonly known (and most likely more popular) such as Snarl, Sludge, and Swoop - which are 100% new molds - I don't feel as cheated when something like a Sharkticon mold takes one for the team.
Either way, this guy is going to have to look fantastic for me to not cancel my preorder.
Especially since I've also queued-up 2 Sweeps.

Has there been any word, even rumor, about when we'll hear what's happening with this sub-line past this year?

Sowndwave76 wrote:Has there been any word, even rumor, about when we'll hear what's happening with this sub-line past this year?

I can't imagine Studio Series 86 lasting for much longer past wave 2, maybe one more wave in late 2021 or early 2022 and that's it, because by that point the movie's 35th anniversary year will have ended. Not to mention the next live-action movie starts filming soon, so the toys for that are probably in early production now. I think Studio Series will start shifting focus towards the new movie in second quarter 2022, to coincide with the release in June, so as a result the 86 range will stop entirely and the Baybots will be gradually phased out.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Just watched a review for the Nonnef Grimlock add-on kit.
For the forearm covers, chest piece (I went with the slightly tinted option), front teeth pieces, and sword I'm already glad it's on its way and feel it's worth the price.
The screw hole covers are a little bonus, and I don't really care about the crown. At all.
In fact, I wish they would've used that plastic for other covers/hole pieces.

@ Nuclearxpotato
I think you asked if Grimlock's neck has transparent plastic. It does not. Which is interesting that they decided to put the plastic piece over the Autobot symbol... It's a nice little touch, but not necessary. Mnius the chest (and some of the greebling, I suppose), this is based on the screen appearance, not the toy appearance.

I am definitely hoping that Gnaw is his own, new mold... However, I wouldn't doubt or actually be too letdown if he ended up being a retool of the Allicon.
When uses of molds allow for new figures that are more commonly known (and most likely more popular) such as Snarl, Sludge, and Swoop - which are 100% new molds - I don't feel as cheated when something like a Sharkticon mold takes one for the team.
Either way, this guy is going to have to look fantastic for me to not cancel my preorder.
Especially since I've also queued-up 2 Sweeps.

Has there been any word, even rumor, about when we'll hear what's happening with this sub-line past this year?

Despite appearances...this isn't a sub line. It's some weird hybrid chimera that hasbro dredged up. The fact that it's packaged along other ss stuff shows it isn't a subline. Would have been way more easier if it was subline but, what can you do?

I figured since the '86' designation is included in the line's name, yet 'Studio Series' is still the main identifier, that makes it a sub-line. And I don't think it's weird. As far as I could tell requirements for 'Studio Series' were that the characters appear in movies produced by a film studio. I don't think anything was said about them having to be non-animated. Bottom line, Hasbro saw an opportunity to make money and they took it, like a successful business should.