More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream
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Today, Hasbro debuted their latest figure from their Movie Masterpiece line of TRANSFORMERS figures – the MPM-10 Starscream! This Starscream figure is an authentic TRANSFORMERS collectible figure inspired by CAD files from the first theatrical films and stands at 11 inches tall in robot mode! MPM-10 Starscream will be available exclusively at Target.com and in stores on September 1st, 2020.
Below is the official description provided to us by Hasbro. You can view a video demonstrating Starscream transformation and articulation here as well as our original news article from earlier this morning here.
Transformers: Movie Masterpiece Series MPM-10 Starscream
(Ages 8 and Up/Approx. Retail Price $149.99/ Available 9/1/2020)
Recreate your favorite Starscream scene from the first Transformers movie with the new Movie Masterpiece Starscream! The MPM-10 Starscream figure is an authentic Transformers collectible figure inspired by the CAD files from the first Transformers film and includes die cast parts and 150 deco ops with more than 50 points of articulation. The MPM-10 Starscream figure stands at 11 inches in robot mode and converts into the movie-inspired officially licensed Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor Jet in 63 steps. The figure features highly articulated hands, flip up thrusters, a moveable mouth, missile and buzz saw arm attachments, and a Gatling blaster accessory.
Modeled after the Transformers live action movies, Movie Masterpiece authentic figures feature film-inspired details and accessories, ideal for displaying on collectors’ shelves. Available exclusively at Target.com and in-store 9/1/2020.
Special thanks to Powered Convoy and other Seibertronians for also sharing this information with us, as well as our friends at Hasbro for sending us these images and content directly.
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Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060496)
Posted by hausjam on April 13th, 2020 @ 12:44pm CDT
MPM-10 has obvious everything sticking out of the jet mode.
If you like this MPM nonsense, hey, good for you. If I want a halfassed toy, I will stick with the Black Mamba at a third of the price.
Posted by hausjam on April 13th, 2020 @ 12:44pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The ROTF toy had obvious hands sticking out of the jet mode. Plus that bot look like complete garbage.
MPM-10 has obvious everything sticking out of the jet mode.
If you like this MPM nonsense, hey, good for you. If I want a halfassed toy, I will stick with the Black Mamba at a third of the price.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060497)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:00pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:00pm CDT
How many people look at the jet toys from underneath? Even if you display in alt mode. You'll be looking at above. No one is going to be displaying this by balancing the jet on his rear end.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060502)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:20pm CDT
He looks amazing.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060503)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:21pm CDT
I do this display often but obviously, the underside face the wall.
Also, I can forgive a jetformer to be a total mess under. As long that it's not sticking out too much from the side and nothing is visible above.
Those who want perfect jets better stick with bots that have the vehicle mode as top priority like the classic Gobots from the 1980's.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 1:21pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:How many people look at the jet toys from underneath? Even if you display in alt mode. You'll be looking at above. No one is going to be displaying this by balancing the jet on his rear end.
I do this display often but obviously, the underside face the wall.
Also, I can forgive a jetformer to be a total mess under. As long that it's not sticking out too much from the side and nothing is visible above.
Those who want perfect jets better stick with bots that have the vehicle mode as top priority like the classic Gobots from the 1980's.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060505)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 2:17pm CDT
I was being extreme when I said that Krana 
I didn't realise anyone actually did it! No offence 
but yeah expecting a perfectly clean jet mode is unnecessary. The robot is the main attraction. The vehicle here looks fine as is, and clearly you don't need to display with the hand weapons attached, thats just a place to store them for vehicle mode if you so wish.
I didn't realise anyone actually did it! No offence but yeah expecting a perfectly clean jet mode is unnecessary. The robot is the main attraction. The vehicle here looks fine as is, and clearly you don't need to display with the hand weapons attached, thats just a place to store them for vehicle mode if you so wish.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060508)
Posted by Seibertron on April 13th, 2020 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on April 13th, 2020 @ 2:27pm CDT
I like how MPM-1 and MPM-10 are both Starscreams, comparable to MP-1 and MP-10 both being Optimus Primes (aka Convoys).
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060513)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:44pm CDT
That robot mode looks great, but the jet mode deco is a fail with those blue spots on there. I love the HFTD leader, and if I get this figure, it'll strictly be in robot mode, with that one in jet mode.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060515)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:51pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:51pm CDT
I was going to ask what you meant by blue on the wings as the pictures I'd seen didn't have any blue till I saw that one of them did. How curious that the others didn't.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060516)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:55pm CDT
Yeah some have them gray, some blue. So which is it? The gray bothers me as well, but not nearly as much.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060517)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:57pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 3:57pm CDT
The video and the initial announcement image are grey, so I'm tempted to go with that but I could never be a hundred percent.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060518)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:00pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:00pm CDT
I'm thinking that as well, because blue just wouldn't make sense. In none of the movies Starscream was in was he any type of blue. Or white, either. The more I look at these shots, the more I'm convinced I should just stick with the HFTD figure.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060522)
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:18pm CDT
Well look, with Optimus Prime, it turned out that the ROTF Leader was the better toy than the MPM. For this, I think both will be as good in their own way. I might still preffer the HFTD for how elegant the undercarriage is handled. it was there, but it was smoothe enough.
As for the gray vs blue discussion, it's a problem with the lighting. Grey (just like black) is always a mixture of a darker tint of either blue, green or purple, because there is no such thing as actual black in pigmentation. So in this case, the grey comes from a blue pigment and can reflect differently given the lightsource and accompanying manipulation of the photo.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:18pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm thinking that as well, because blue just wouldn't make sense. In none of the movies Starscream was in was he any type of blue. Or white, either. The more I look at these shots, the more I'm convinced I should just stick with the HFTD figure.
Well look, with Optimus Prime, it turned out that the ROTF Leader was the better toy than the MPM. For this, I think both will be as good in their own way. I might still preffer the HFTD for how elegant the undercarriage is handled. it was there, but it was smoothe enough.
As for the gray vs blue discussion, it's a problem with the lighting. Grey (just like black) is always a mixture of a darker tint of either blue, green or purple, because there is no such thing as actual black in pigmentation. So in this case, the grey comes from a blue pigment and can reflect differently given the lightsource and accompanying manipulation of the photo.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060524)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:22pm CDT
"MPM-X"?
Anyway, something tells me the "blue" is more of a trick of the lighting or hue settings. You know, "what color is the dress?"
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:22pm CDT
"MPM-X"?
Anyway, something tells me the "blue" is more of a trick of the lighting or hue settings. You know, "what color is the dress?"
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060525)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:24pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:24pm CDT
Well X is ten in roman numerals... Though why they'd switch to that numbering scheme now is weird
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060527)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:25pm CDT
Articulation looks amazing, but something about this just leaves me disappointed. it just seems like it should be so much more than the original leader class and Studio Series than it is.
I dunno.
I dunno.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060533)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:41pm CDT
I want it, but I thought there would be more sheen or shine to it if I'm being clear enough. I think I just expected more of a shiny metal look in anticipation of the reveal. I kept thinking of all of the sunshine that Michael Bay incorporated in those films and how the light was constantly playing off the Bots and Cons.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:41pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Articulation looks amazing, but something about this just leaves me disappointed. it just seems like it should be so much more than the original leader class and Studio Series than it is.
I dunno.
I want it, but I thought there would be more sheen or shine to it if I'm being clear enough. I think I just expected more of a shiny metal look in anticipation of the reveal. I kept thinking of all of the sunshine that Michael Bay incorporated in those films and how the light was constantly playing off the Bots and Cons.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060537)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:52pm CDT
No offence at all.
It's a valid way to display the jets. They usually stand up pretty well! However, the Movie jet cannot stand up like this because of the way it's made. It dosent have a "tripod".
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 4:52pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I was being extreme when I said that Krana
No offence at all.
It's a valid way to display the jets. They usually stand up pretty well! However, the Movie jet cannot stand up like this because of the way it's made. It dosent have a "tripod".
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060544)
Posted by DMSL on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:08pm CDT
Posted by DMSL on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:08pm CDT
It looks like a retool of the HFTD Starscream.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060545)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:25pm CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:25pm CDT
It really comes down to stability/QC issues for me, because at least on appearances this blows the HFTD leader out of the water for me. They finally got the proportions right - as much as I like the leader and SS figures, they haven't really been able to get the torso proportions right. It's also huge that the robot mode wings are formed from the primary wings instead of the rear fins! It looks so much better.
$150 is actually better than I was expecting, but still a lot more than I've ever spent on a Transformer before. We'll have to see, I'm excited to see more pictures/videos in the meantime!
$150 is actually better than I was expecting, but still a lot more than I've ever spent on a Transformer before. We'll have to see, I'm excited to see more pictures/videos in the meantime!
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060546)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:31pm CDT
In what sense?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2020 @ 5:31pm CDT
DMSL wrote:It looks like a retool of the HFTD Starscream.
In what sense?
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060553)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:05pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:05pm CDT
Looks good, but, I'm not yet sure $150 good, I love movie starscream and my biggest regret with even his best figures thus far was that he was never as bendy as his art always portrayed him, this seems to fix that
a bit (the multi-jointed neck works miracles) and for me is a big plus, guess we'll see come sept, least I have some time to mull it over
a bit (the multi-jointed neck works miracles) and for me is a big plus, guess we'll see come sept, least I have some time to mull it over
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060555)
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:14pm CDT
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060556)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:33pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:33pm CDT
I normally hate the movie Starscream design, but this MPM figure looks gorgeous. I don't collect MPs, but I might have to get this one... It just perfectly captures the sniveling coward that Starscream was in the movies
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060557)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:39pm CDT
It was exactly me at first.
Then way back then, on Boxing Day sale in December 2010 or 2011, HFTD Leader Starscream was on sale at Toys R Us for 45$CAN instead of the normal 70$CAN. I HATED that Starscream. But at that price, I was curious.
Then when fiddling with him, my hate turned into love and I finally saw how brilliant the design was.
Dunno if the old HFTD Leader will drop in price because the MPM is coming out, but if you can find it for a reasonable price, you'll have a taste of what MPM-10 will bring. After all, HFTD Leader Starscream is MPM-01.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 6:39pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I normally hate the movie Starscream design, but this MPM figure looks gorgeous. I don't collect MPs, but I might have to get this one... It just perfectly captures the sniveling coward that Starscream was in the movies
It was exactly me at first.
Then way back then, on Boxing Day sale in December 2010 or 2011, HFTD Leader Starscream was on sale at Toys R Us for 45$CAN instead of the normal 70$CAN. I HATED that Starscream. But at that price, I was curious.
Then when fiddling with him, my hate turned into love and I finally saw how brilliant the design was.
Dunno if the old HFTD Leader will drop in price because the MPM is coming out, but if you can find it for a reasonable price, you'll have a taste of what MPM-10 will bring. After all, HFTD Leader Starscream is MPM-01.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060559)
Posted by DeathReviews on April 13th, 2020 @ 7:44pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on April 13th, 2020 @ 7:44pm CDT
Not a fan of Bayverse figures, so this one's a pass. Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'? Obviously a lot of thought and engineering was put into it, I'll give them that. But this just isn't Starscream.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060560)
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 7:54pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 7:54pm CDT
I wonder if the darker grey is only a lighting thing going on with the pictures.
The jet mode looks solid,just wondering about the colors.
It seems he will have the booster on the back!
Overall,I'm very excited for this toy!
The jet mode looks solid,just wondering about the colors.
It seems he will have the booster on the back!
Overall,I'm very excited for this toy!
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060561)
Posted by MadProject on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:33pm CDT
Posted by MadProject on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:33pm CDT
really cool figure, I wonder how it will scale with the other ones, especially in vehicle mode.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060562)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:52pm CDT
One thing for sure. The vehicle mode will NEVER be in scale. Except maybe with Megatron because Megatron is some random thing. In order for Starscream in Jet mode to be in scale with the land vehicles, we should have Star Trek magic tech to mass-shift this toy.
Oh well, as long that the robot match, that's all that matter, really.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:52pm CDT
MadProject wrote:really cool figure, I wonder how it will scale with the other ones, especially in vehicle mode.
One thing for sure. The vehicle mode will NEVER be in scale. Except maybe with Megatron because Megatron is some random thing. In order for Starscream in Jet mode to be in scale with the land vehicles, we should have Star Trek magic tech to mass-shift this toy.
Oh well, as long that the robot match, that's all that matter, really.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060563)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:58pm CDT
I was in that exact same mindset way back in 2010/2011.
Then I tasted the HFTD Leader...
Maybe you could think outside your box for once and try something you never dared before. Maybe not this 150$ MP, obviously, but maybe just the standard Studio Series figure. Movie Starscream is ugly, yes, but he's a pleasure to handle. Especially the Studio Series version or the HFTD Leader. Give it a chance and you'll see.
And if you just can't accept him as "Starscream", just name him Larry and problem solved!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 8:58pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Not a fan of Bayverse figures, so this one's a pass. Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'? Obviously a lot of thought and engineering was put into it, I'll give them that. But this just isn't Starscream.
I was in that exact same mindset way back in 2010/2011.
Then I tasted the HFTD Leader...
Maybe you could think outside your box for once and try something you never dared before. Maybe not this 150$ MP, obviously, but maybe just the standard Studio Series figure. Movie Starscream is ugly, yes, but he's a pleasure to handle. Especially the Studio Series version or the HFTD Leader. Give it a chance and you'll see.
And if you just can't accept him as "Starscream", just name him Larry and problem solved!
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060565)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 13th, 2020 @ 9:15pm CDT
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy. When I think “Starscream”, I think of this design before the blue and red F-15, but I know that most people are probably more familiar with the G1-style appearance.
That’s a huge part of what I like so much about the Bay movies - They went all out in creating awesome, super detailed reimaginings of characters that - while retaining some hints of the originals - really let the designers get creative and do something new (and IMO way cooler).
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 13th, 2020 @ 9:15pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy. When I think “Starscream”, I think of this design before the blue and red F-15, but I know that most people are probably more familiar with the G1-style appearance.
That’s a huge part of what I like so much about the Bay movies - They went all out in creating awesome, super detailed reimaginings of characters that - while retaining some hints of the originals - really let the designers get creative and do something new (and IMO way cooler).
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060566)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 9:24pm CDT
This won't make me any younger but I find this absolutely amazing that for a whole generation, the "true" Transformers dear from childhood and full of nostalgia are the Bayverse ones!
And honestly, I'm thankful because thanks to the Bayverse, Transformers entered a second renaissance like it did when Beast Wars came along. In both instances, Transformers were revived, fuels by the Geewun Purists tears. Ironically, it's thanks to the Bayverse that we got those recent lines of "Budget G1 Masterpieces" that was the last Generations trilogy and the current one.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2020 @ 9:24pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy.
This won't make me any younger but I find this absolutely amazing that for a whole generation, the "true" Transformers dear from childhood and full of nostalgia are the Bayverse ones!
And honestly, I'm thankful because thanks to the Bayverse, Transformers entered a second renaissance like it did when Beast Wars came along. In both instances, Transformers were revived, fuels by the Geewun Purists tears. Ironically, it's thanks to the Bayverse that we got those recent lines of "Budget G1 Masterpieces" that was the last Generations trilogy and the current one.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060567)
Posted by Tuned Agent on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by Tuned Agent on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:06pm CDT
His alt mode is looking a bit off color-wise and it's definitely got some undercarriage kibble, but man, that robot mode looks incredible. This pose gives me flashbacks to some of the RotF promo art, and it's awesome.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060568)
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:15pm CDT
Very easily, that's how Starscream looked like in the movies they watched.
My kids are 2 and 4 and they are able to understand that Starscream looks a particular way in the movies and a different way in the cartoons. Same with Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet and everyone else except for Megatron
Terribly, we already know that from the dimensions given. Not that anyone expected otherwise.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:15pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote: Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
Very easily, that's how Starscream looked like in the movies they watched.
My kids are 2 and 4 and they are able to understand that Starscream looks a particular way in the movies and a different way in the cartoons. Same with Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet and everyone else except for Megatron
MadProject wrote:really cool figure, I wonder how it will scale with the other ones, especially in vehicle mode.
Terribly, we already know that from the dimensions given. Not that anyone expected otherwise.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060571)
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:58pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on April 13th, 2020 @ 10:58pm CDT
If anyone wants more of Movie Starscream , I recommend the comics or the games,he has a lot of cool moments in those.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060572)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 13th, 2020 @ 11:23pm CDT
I feel like I'm in an interesting spot because, I really do not like most of the movie designs in the actual movies (I feel like they're overdesigned), but put them in toy form, even Masterpiece toy form, and (by necessity of making the design into a toy) they're simplified juuuuuuuuuuust enough that they become much more interesting to look at, the "broad strokes" of the design start to stand out more against the smaller more granular details. This MPM Starscream is way more enjoyable for me to look at than how the design is in the actual movie itself. Still not what would come to mind immediately as a "good Starscream", but I kind of think of/appreciate the movie designs in their own little bubble.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 13th, 2020 @ 11:23pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy. When I think “Starscream”, I think of this design before the blue and red F-15, but I know that most people are probably more familiar with the G1-style appearance.
That’s a huge part of what I like so much about the Bay movies - They went all out in creating awesome, super detailed reimaginings of characters that - while retaining some hints of the originals - really let the designers get creative and do something new (and IMO way cooler).
I feel like I'm in an interesting spot because, I really do not like most of the movie designs in the actual movies (I feel like they're overdesigned), but put them in toy form, even Masterpiece toy form, and (by necessity of making the design into a toy) they're simplified juuuuuuuuuuust enough that they become much more interesting to look at, the "broad strokes" of the design start to stand out more against the smaller more granular details. This MPM Starscream is way more enjoyable for me to look at than how the design is in the actual movie itself. Still not what would come to mind immediately as a "good Starscream", but I kind of think of/appreciate the movie designs in their own little bubble.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060582)
Posted by YRQRM0 on April 14th, 2020 @ 9:19am CDT
I think it has a lot to do with the movement and presentation in the movies, too. Starscream barely got screentime in the films. I'd say that one slow-mo shot of him landing in the first movie was the clearest look at him in 3 films. He was always hunched over, filmed in shaky cam, covered in sparks/explosions, bad lighting, etc. But I think most of the designs look pretty good if the films just give you a chance to look at them. That tattoo thing just made a busy design even busier and didn't help.
Posted by YRQRM0 on April 14th, 2020 @ 9:19am CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy. When I think “Starscream”, I think of this design before the blue and red F-15, but I know that most people are probably more familiar with the G1-style appearance.
That’s a huge part of what I like so much about the Bay movies - They went all out in creating awesome, super detailed reimaginings of characters that - while retaining some hints of the originals - really let the designers get creative and do something new (and IMO way cooler).
I feel like I'm in an interesting spot because, I really do not like most of the movie designs in the actual movies (I feel like they're overdesigned), but put them in toy form, even Masterpiece toy form, and (by necessity of making the design into a toy) they're simplified juuuuuuuuuuust enough that they become much more interesting to look at, the "broad strokes" of the design start to stand out more against the smaller more granular details. This MPM Starscream is way more enjoyable for me to look at than how the design is in the actual movie itself. Still not what would come to mind immediately as a "good Starscream", but I kind of think of/appreciate the movie designs in their own little bubble.
I think it has a lot to do with the movement and presentation in the movies, too. Starscream barely got screentime in the films. I'd say that one slow-mo shot of him landing in the first movie was the clearest look at him in 3 films. He was always hunched over, filmed in shaky cam, covered in sparks/explosions, bad lighting, etc. But I think most of the designs look pretty good if the films just give you a chance to look at them. That tattoo thing just made a busy design even busier and didn't help.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060583)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 14th, 2020 @ 9:19am CDT
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 14th, 2020 @ 9:19am CDT
I'm hoping this goes up for preorder soon. I want to lock him in. I'm worried that's only available through Target. Wish all e-tailers could carry this guy.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060588)
Posted by DMSL on April 14th, 2020 @ 10:22am CDT
Same parts, same detail, same transformation lines/breaks. I don't believe this is 100% a new mold at all.
Posted by DMSL on April 14th, 2020 @ 10:22am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DMSL wrote:It looks like a retool of the HFTD Starscream.
In what sense?
Same parts, same detail, same transformation lines/breaks. I don't believe this is 100% a new mold at all.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060590)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 10:33am CDT
I can too, the movie versions of characters are my default go-to for the designs. They are my favorite.
This figure looks pretty dang good, and I am really impressed with how much articulation they got into him, especially with the chest flexing. That is great!
I will be getting him to add to the MPM shelf. Once I have him, there will only be 4 large and 2 little bots left to complete the 1st movie!
It is a totally new mold. When MPM3 was revealed, there were people convinced it was a retool of a previous leader figure, and it wasn't even close at all.
The MPMs since MPM3 are brand new molds all around, no retooling from older figures.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 10:33am CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Seriously - how can anyone look at this and say, 'Yeah, that's Starscream'?
I can!
It’s just a matter of what we grew up with and what we enjoy. When I think “Starscream”, I think of this design before the blue and red F-15, but I know that most people are probably more familiar with the G1-style appearance.
That’s a huge part of what I like so much about the Bay movies - They went all out in creating awesome, super detailed reimaginings of characters that - while retaining some hints of the originals - really let the designers get creative and do something new (and IMO way cooler).
I can too, the movie versions of characters are my default go-to for the designs. They are my favorite.
This figure looks pretty dang good, and I am really impressed with how much articulation they got into him, especially with the chest flexing. That is great!
I will be getting him to add to the MPM shelf. Once I have him, there will only be 4 large and 2 little bots left to complete the 1st movie!
DMSL wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:DMSL wrote:It looks like a retool of the HFTD Starscream.
In what sense?
Same parts, same detail, same transformation lines/breaks. I don't believe this is 100% a new mold at all.
It is a totally new mold. When MPM3 was revealed, there were people convinced it was a retool of a previous leader figure, and it wasn't even close at all.
The MPMs since MPM3 are brand new molds all around, no retooling from older figures.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060599)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 14th, 2020 @ 11:07am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 14th, 2020 @ 11:07am CDT
Update: Pre-Orders are now up for MPM-10 Starscream, via Kapow Toys and In Demand.
£144.97 - Kapow Toys (Expected to alter, as is typical, to reflect ID Toys pricing at some point)
£139.99 - ID Toys
A 10% deposit option is currently available for both.
Scheduled to ship in September
£144.97 - Kapow Toys (Expected to alter, as is typical, to reflect ID Toys pricing at some point)
£139.99 - ID Toys
A 10% deposit option is currently available for both.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060605)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:08pm CDT
Wow, Tfsource has him up for preorder with a price of $229.99. Yikes.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060606)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:23pm CDT
Link? I just went to their site and it wasn't there
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:23pm CDT
Drift082111 wrote:Wow, Tfsource has him up for preorder with a price of $229.99. Yikes.
Link? I just went to their site and it wasn't there
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060607)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:24pm CDT
Here you go!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:24pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Wow, Tfsource has him up for preorder with a price of $229.99. Yikes.
Link? I just went to their site and it wasn't there
Here you go!
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060608)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:25pm CDT
Do TFSource normally hike up the price of a retailer exclusive like that?
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060609)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:26pm CDT
Holy shit, $240?
Yeah, I'm gonna have to try for Target with this one. That is ridiculous
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:26pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Wow, Tfsource has him up for preorder with a price of $229.99. Yikes.
Link? I just went to their site and it wasn't there
Here you go!
Holy shit, $240?
Yeah, I'm gonna have to try for Target with this one. That is ridiculous
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060616)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 14th, 2020 @ 12:53pm CDT
Patience, grasshoppers.
"Exclusive" or not, all MPM found their way to Amazon or Mandarake sooner or later. And like all MPM figures, they inevitably come on sale at some point.
I know my Toys R Us won't deliver because of their Quebec prejudice. So I'll bid my time.
"Exclusive" or not, all MPM found their way to Amazon or Mandarake sooner or later. And like all MPM figures, they inevitably come on sale at some point.
I know my Toys R Us won't deliver because of their Quebec prejudice. So I'll bid my time.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060621)
Posted by Saminus9000 on April 14th, 2020 @ 1:16pm CDT
This Starscream severs the decade and welcomes us in 2020!
Posted by Saminus9000 on April 14th, 2020 @ 1:16pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I like how MPM-1 and MPM-10 are both Starscreams, comparable to MP-1 and MP-10 both being Optimus Primes (aka Convoys).
This Starscream severs the decade and welcomes us in 2020!
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060643)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 14th, 2020 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 14th, 2020 @ 3:21pm CDT
@DeathReviews 
People can look at this and say "That's Starscream" because it has the iconic wings and chest cockpit, and also have seen the movies and know that this is the movies' version of Starscream. Get the smeg over it already. After seeing you say that, part of me is wanting this to be the only Starscream we get toys of for the next fifteen years, just to spite people like you.
This Starscream looks to be quite good, frankly, and it's nice to see him work in the engines on the back that the 2010 Leader-class could not.
I hope that his plastic colors and paintwork are refined for the production toy. The colors seen in these photos, and the contrast between the camo paint and the plastic color, end up looking too toylike (the gray of his body is a bit overly pale, and the camo paint looks too blue compared to the real-life F22 camo).
MPM-01 wasn't perfect, but it did do a good job on the colors:
Hopefully the production version of MPM-10 will be that good, or better.
People can look at this and say "That's Starscream" because it has the iconic wings and chest cockpit, and also have seen the movies and know that this is the movies' version of Starscream. Get the smeg over it already. After seeing you say that, part of me is wanting this to be the only Starscream we get toys of for the next fifteen years, just to spite people like you.This Starscream looks to be quite good, frankly, and it's nice to see him work in the engines on the back that the 2010 Leader-class could not.
I hope that his plastic colors and paintwork are refined for the production toy. The colors seen in these photos, and the contrast between the camo paint and the plastic color, end up looking too toylike (the gray of his body is a bit overly pale, and the camo paint looks too blue compared to the real-life F22 camo).
MPM-01 wasn't perfect, but it did do a good job on the colors:
Hopefully the production version of MPM-10 will be that good, or better.
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060672)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on April 14th, 2020 @ 4:39pm CDT
I just love seeing your G1 starscream with the front wheel in his chest. Man I remember doing that as a kid too. Just have to ask, did you order the Wiafu Starscream to go with your collection?
Posted by Rodimus Knight on April 14th, 2020 @ 4:39pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I was being extreme when I said that Krana
No offence at all.
It's a valid way to display the jets. They usually stand up pretty well! However, the Movie jet cannot stand up like this because of the way it's made. It dosent have a "tripod".
I just love seeing your G1 starscream with the front wheel in his chest. Man I remember doing that as a kid too. Just have to ask, did you order the Wiafu Starscream to go with your collection?
Re: More images and official description of Masterpiece MPM-10 Starscream (2060677)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 14th, 2020 @ 4:53pm CDT
You meant " Starscream-chan ", right?
Unfortunately no. Because she's been in preorder limbo for more than a year and a half already and Corona-chan is not helping.
But once she finally get released, you betcha I'm getting her!
Speaking of which...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 14th, 2020 @ 4:53pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:I just love seeing your G1 starscream with the front wheel in his chest. Man I remember doing that as a kid too. Just have to ask, did you order the Wiafu Starscream to go with your collection?
You meant " Starscream-chan ", right?
Unfortunately no. Because she's been in preorder limbo for more than a year and a half already and Corona-chan is not helping.
But once she finally get released, you betcha I'm getting her!
Speaking of which...
