Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video

Sunday, April 22nd, 2007 9:43AM CDT

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Michael Bay has posted another update on his weblog wherein he mentions a few interesting bits, including some new info about "Prime speaks" spot that was leaked on Youtube

Here's what Nelson, the admin of Bay's site, says:

I spoke to Mike today...

He's been super busy editing the movie and in the process shooting the ads that will accompany the release of Transformers. He's doing ads that involve GM and Pepsi.

The unreleased ad (Prime speaks) that was posted on youtube was a test that European were making with the ads. The clip where OP was "speaking," lets just say that it wasn't OP or Cullen speaking. It was something the European studios added on their own. In fact, it was a test shot.

As reported by Slate, Spielberg and Bay are not at odds. Where do they come up with this?

As reported by naysayers and haters, Bay never said "the cartoons were amatuer and our movie is spectacular" in Empire magazine. He was referring to the animation and complexity of the transformation of the cartoon robots themselves and not the cartoons as a whole.

You can read the full Blog at

http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/newsblog.html

Credit(s): jeb865, Shinobi Rendar

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Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93905)
Posted by Skowl on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:44am CDT

Front paged and credited!

*yay! First time I get to say that!* :grin:

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93911)
Posted by Kayevcee on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:52am CDT

I saw the regulars on... another board totally losing their shit over this earlier. I wasn't entirely sure why.

Anyway, I'm off to think about General Motors vehicles towing giant transforming bottles of Pepsi.

-Nick

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93912)
Posted by jeb865 on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:53am CDT

Front page credit as well.

Also a first time for me

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93947)
Posted by jgilkinson on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:27am CDT

well the fact prime speaking was a test shot is a little comforting. As for it not being cullin, at least its offical.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93964)
Posted by Down_Shift on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:42am CDT

I would really like to meet Mr. Bay and shake his hand for handling all the slings and arrows the way he does. I'm still pumped about this movie. Phak, time is moving slow.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93966)
Posted by partholon on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:43am CDT

oh come on did people actually think it was the end product? when you look at the difference between prime transforming in that and the official trailer its worlds apart. i always viewed it as a test shot and was glad someone released it for the sake of interest.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93971)
Posted by City Commander on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:46am CDT

You know what? They should make Optimus Prime transform into the pepsi bottle. That would be cool as a promotion.

This is quite good news. I just hope it all ends well.
Mere months away now too.

Bay ain't the greatest, but there is really no need to attack him at every turn.

So he doesn't do exactly what you want. Since when has Hasrbro done that either?

Remember, Hasblo set the bar for screwing over tfans, not Bay.
He is just doing what he thinks is best in the end.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93982)
Posted by Ericus Prime on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:56am CDT

Hopefully the next TV spot or trailer that airs will have the real Prime speak.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (93989)
Posted by hyperconvoy69 on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:02am CDT

well, if that wasn't cullen, that that was a pretty close impersonator in terms of timbre.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94006)
Posted by jonusjaxon on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:21am CDT

Sounded like Cullen to me. They did a good job whoever did it. I was fooled.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94009)
Posted by Roboto750 on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:22am CDT

This is some of the best news to come from Bay!

Even is that was Prime, I would still be looking forward to the movie (though, I really didn;t like that voice at all)! Can't wait for the June 28th screening at Botcon! :grin:

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94014)
Posted by Shadowman on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:25am CDT

Fantastic! It means Prime has his normal G1 voice.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94021)
Posted by Roboto750 on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:30am CDT

Shadowman wrote:Fantastic! It means Prime has his normal G1 voice.

At least, we hope!

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94041)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:51am CDT

Still don't change the fact that the ?organic? mouth looks bad on the sectioned metal head

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94048)
Posted by ZenithF0RTE on April 22nd, 2007 @ 12:03pm CDT

Well that's a big freaking sigh of relief.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94109)
Posted by Devastator ROCKS! on April 22nd, 2007 @ 1:09pm CDT

I think IF Speilberg and Bay were at odds, its probably is because Bay is too arrogant and all his choices about the move are horrible and Speilberg said "I told you so" I would be surprised if Bay has watched more than 3 eps ffrom the original series and absolutely thinks "the cartoons were amatuer". As to that Op speaks clip I bet it was real and they wanted to get an idea of how it would go over before the "official" release. Like the "re-designed" megatron because of fan dislike and mockery, it will change , just not much.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94115)
Posted by Shadowman on April 22nd, 2007 @ 1:13pm CDT

Devastator ROCKS! wrote:I think IF Speilberg and Bay were at odds, its probably is because Bay is too arrogant and all his choices about the move are horrible and Speilberg said "I told you so" I would be surprised if Bay has watched more than 3 eps ffrom the original series and absolutely thinks "the cartoons were amatuer". As to that Op speaks clip I bet it was real and they wanted to get an idea of how it would go over before the "official" release. Like the "re-designed" megatron because of fan dislike and mockery, it will change , just not much.

This post makes me was to cause self-inflicted pain with a blunt object.

Sounds like your forcing yourself to not believe the article, due to your need to hate Bay.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94213)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 22nd, 2007 @ 3:28pm CDT

Shadowman wrote:
Devastator ROCKS! wrote:I think IF Speilberg and Bay were at odds, its probably is because Bay is too arrogant and all his choices about the move are horrible and Speilberg said "I told you so" I would be surprised if Bay has watched more than 3 eps ffrom the original series and absolutely thinks "the cartoons were amatuer". As to that Op speaks clip I bet it was real and they wanted to get an idea of how it would go over before the "official" release. Like the "re-designed" megatron because of fan dislike and mockery, it will change , just not much.

This post makes me was to cause self-inflicted pain with a blunt object.

Sounds like your forcing yourself to not believe the article, due to your need to hate Bay.

Or due to his mental retardation.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94214)
Posted by LuckytheWonderLlama on April 22nd, 2007 @ 3:28pm CDT

The haters are a funny lot. They can not see the good in anything. They can not accept the fact that Hasbro/Takara/Bay were not put on this Earth to cater only to them. That there are thousands if not millions of Transformer Fans all over the world that appreciate and enjoy the work done by others for them.

The haters are silly.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94218)
Posted by Omega-1 on April 22nd, 2007 @ 3:35pm CDT

Well, thank goodness. The face still sucks but if Cullen didn't sound like the Prime we know, I would pretty much have zero excitement for this movie.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94264)
Posted by gothsaurus on April 22nd, 2007 @ 4:22pm CDT

At this point I have no doubt this will be a "great action movie" with stunning visuals, but like any old fan of the franchise, I think the deviations from established characters will leave a bitter taste. Either way, I will try to go into it with an open mind. Unless the movie strikes a chord with some real heartwarming characterization, probably won't buy any of the toys, tho.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94335)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on April 22nd, 2007 @ 5:47pm CDT

I can't seem to find this YouTube video in question :???:

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94353)
Posted by i_amtrunks on April 22nd, 2007 @ 6:11pm CDT

How many times have we heard/read someone say "that was a mock version" or "the design is not final" or "it wont be like that in the final version", only for whatever they said to not be true, and the designs be final, or that the not final or the mock version ends up being exactly what will be in the final version?

Now I doubt that the Prime voice that was used in that youtube vid is the real deal, it wouldnt surprise me if it ended up in the final movie.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94422)
Posted by The Paragon of Virtue on April 22nd, 2007 @ 7:28pm CDT

i_amtrunks wrote:Now I doubt that the Prime voice that was used in that youtube vid is the real deal, it wouldnt surprise me if it ended up in the final movie.

It wouldn't surprise you if they had Cullen be Prime for the entire movie, but just left in that one scene where it isn't him? What does that even mean?

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94446)
Posted by Spooner on April 22nd, 2007 @ 7:57pm CDT

I told you it was just a temp track and not Cullen.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94505)
Posted by Stalker on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:25pm CDT

No, that IS Cullen's voice.

Someone on TFW2005 had pointed out a few links to someone altering the pitch of the clip. They weren't working for me at the moment, so I took the downloaded copy of "Optimus Lips", as I call it, and recorded the sound off of it via Audacity. Following another tip, I upped the pitch by 2.5 semitones (don't ask me what they are, that's what the guy said to to, and I found a way on the program to do that), and listened to it again.

(Voight sounded kinda funny, but) That was DEFINATELY Cullen in the trailer. Upping the pitch shows you that.

Now, I share the opinion of (yet another) member of TFW2005, in that Bay meant that was not the tone of Cullen's voice they'd be using for the film, rather than that not being Cullen at all.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94516)
Posted by Bender Prime on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:44pm CDT

Sounded like a temp track when I heard it and I'm glad that's what it was.

I am also glad to hear that it will sound more like Cullen in the film, Prime has to sound like Prime.

And even if we were to presume that they deliberately leaked that clip to test the voice with the fans then I say good on them, it shows they listen and are still refining and improving things.

Can't wait for this film to come out, this is the first film in a few summers that I am actually anxious to see.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94518)
Posted by Collector Maximus on April 22nd, 2007 @ 9:48pm CDT

I knew that wasn't Cullen as Prime! I at least knew it sure as hell didn't sound like him.
Thanks for letting us know.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94539)
Posted by The Shadow on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:16pm CDT

i_amtrunks wrote:How many times have we heard/read someone say "that was a mock version" or "the design is not final" or "it wont be like that in the final version", only for whatever they said to not be true, and the designs be final, or that the not final or the mock version ends up being exactly what will be in the final version?

I can cite you a specific example - a month or so before Sony's Godzilla movie came out {the one often called GINO by Godzilla fans} a picture of the "Godzilla" leaked out. The vast departure was drawing many complaints from Godzilla fans and Dean Devlin and/or Roland Emmerich flat out denied that leaked image was of their "Godzilla".

Now, while I do still have concerns about the upcoming Transformers movie - I hope Bay is telling the truth {though Stalker's post leaves some doubt}.

Someone on the official movie boards posted a thread about comparing Prime's head in the "Prime Speaks" clip with that of the final movie poster {which presumably is using the final model for Optimus}.

It's indeed different, most notably the lower jaw doesn't seem to jut out as it does in the clip - so I'm fairly certain that model used when Optimus speaks is outdated and not what'll be in the movie itself.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94555)
Posted by Robinson on April 22nd, 2007 @ 10:32pm CDT

I can take my voice on audacity and modify the pitch and bla bla bla and I can sound like optimus if I wanted to.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94603)
Posted by Stalker on April 22nd, 2007 @ 11:15pm CDT

1Big\"F\"ingRayOfSunshine wrote:I can take my voice on audacity and modify the pitch and bla bla bla and I can sound like optimus if I wanted to.

Well yeah, one could if you add in the "bla bla bla". As it is, though, I only altered the pitch level. Increased by the already-stated 2.5 semitones (still wish I knew what that term meant...), the voice matches the recent Cullen clips perfectly. Or, at least, is too close to be anyone else.

If I had a way, I'd upload the MP3 for you.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94660)
Posted by Anonymous on April 23rd, 2007 @ 12:06am CDT

Liege Evilmus wrote:Still don't change the fact that the ?organic? mouth looks bad on the sectioned metal head

Agreed.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (94675)
Posted by roguecds on April 23rd, 2007 @ 12:41am CDT

Yeah, frankly after Bay got Cullen in the film, I knew he wasn't half the butthole people made him out to be? All hollywood directors are somewhat "premadonnas" and tempramental to a degree. So as long as I recognize the content of the characters I'm cool with the movie. We know they are not going to look anything like Our TF from our childhood.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (95049)
Posted by Tex Hex on April 23rd, 2007 @ 9:43am CDT

More good news from Bay. I think the haters are amusing, it is a lot like when Beast Wars came out, there was tons of hate for Primal. Stuff like "gguuhh, trukk not munkey!" was frequently uttered from the lips of fans who couldn't approve of anything except G1. Bay and staff are taking this movie in exactly the right direction, they are adding a sense of realism to the Transformers, while still maintaining the cool sci-fi aspect. What they did was take Transformers out of the cartoon world, and put it into the world of cinema. Now everyone can enjoy transformers, and not just fans. I love the G1 transformers, but I have to admit, seeing the G1 forms in a live action movie would have looked kind of silly.

Thumbs up to Bay, he's put up with a lot of crap to move transformers in a direction it needs to go.

Re: Michael Bay Update, Comments on Prime Speaks Video (95133)
Posted by Hans on April 23rd, 2007 @ 10:59am CDT

Good news. First of all, the movements of the head were very jerky and over-exaggerated. And Megan Fox was looking up way too high, looking over Prime's head, even. Not that I noticed such things myself, I was just too bummed by the fact that they changed "Peter Cullen's" voice like that (I've given up on the designs themselves. Just can't get into them).

Anyway, I just hope Peter Cullen's voice won't be changed, synthesized or whatever. His natural "Prime voice" is just too good for that. We need him to sound like the original Optimus. If they manage to make him sound normal (shouldn't be too hard) I'll manage to enjoy the movie regardless of the crap designs of the actual Transformers.

If only they would have just gone with the Masterpiece designs... those would have been realistic (and familiar) enough, I'm certain of it.