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Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD

Transformers News: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD

Wednesday, December 5th, 2007 9:31AM CST

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The HD DVD battle continues! Several persistent Transformers fans continue to inquire on Michael Bay's ShootForTheEdit.com why Paramount and Dreamworks released the Transformers Movie in HD DVD and regular DVD formats, while excluding the apparently superior Blu-Ray format. As some of you know, Microsoft is one of the big supporters behind the HD DVD format.

Here's what Michael Bay had to say on his website yesterday: "What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth."

Let the HD DVD and Blu-Ray battles continue!

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Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491260)
Posted by DISCHARGE on December 5th, 2007 @ 9:52am CST
Swerve wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Sometimes I don't know about that man. I'd swear he's Manic Depressive or something.


He is an attention whore. He has to come out and say something stupidly retarded every now and again to get his fix.

In Australia we call that "doing a Mundine".

Wonder how long this post will stay up at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5874#post5874%3CBR%3E">Shootfortheedit.com</a>


The post has been up for a little while. The link I got the story from had a link back to shootforthereedit.com where they got the original quote.

I do wonder about Bay sometimes. He totally hated the idea of doing a "kids movie" based on a toy and claimed he knew little about the series. Now he is a self proclaimed "huge fan" with the license to do whatever he wants to Transformers as far as the movie universe is concerned. I also wonder if he means a "huge fan" of the source material or "huge fan" of his own work?



He's a huge fan of cash :lol:
No really, Can't they scrap discs altogether and just sell the movies on memory cards?
Or would that be too easy?
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491262)
Posted by Senor Hugo on December 5th, 2007 @ 9:54am CST
Just proves that Microsoft wants Hollywoodoutof the picture, and that Bay is bat-shit insane.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491271)
Posted by First Gen on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:01am CST
Seeing as a limited number of people have Blu Ray, like the NFL Network, I dont see the big deal. HD DVD may not be as nice (Really I couldn't tell the difference) but at least you got it in a decent quality format.

These PS3 owners are ridiculous.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491273)
Posted by QuietStorm on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:05am CST
What a complete and utter tool. Keep making giant robot movies and stop flapping your mouth about things that you obviously have no idea about.

The bottom line is that Bay wants to reap as much as he can from a movie that was probably his best work. I don't blame him for that--I blame him for being a whiney baby in regards to how the studio, who owns the project, handled the home market distribution.

Word.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491288)
Posted by Prime Evil on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:16am CST
Don't know why everyone keeps on slammin him. He sounds just like any other opinionated TF poster.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491292)
Posted by Ariannus on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:17am CST
What Michael Bay doesn't realize is that Microsoft is a member of the backing group for HD-DVD and that the HD-DVD standard uses Microsoft's Hdi system of interactive content. Therefore Microsoft makes royalties off of everything released on HD-DVD. On the other hand, Microsoft isn't a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association and Blu-ray uses Sun's competing Java system for it's interactive content, so Microsoft makes nothing.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491293)
Posted by Cheetron on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:18am CST
All I can say is ........ Ok.....?

I'm one of those people who finally broke down and bought a DVD player. Not a fancy one, but a DVD/VCR thing because I like to watch the older movies I've already bought and not turn around and go spend tons of money to re-buy them on a format that is apparently on it's way out.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491296)
Posted by First Gen on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:21am CST
Ariannus wrote:What Michael Bay doesn't realize is that Microsoft is a member of the backing group for HD-DVD and that the HD-DVD standard uses Microsoft's Hdi system of interactive content. Therefore Microsoft makes royalties off of everything released on HD-DVD. On the other hand, Microsoft isn't a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association and Blu-ray uses Sun's competing Java system for it's interactive content, so Microsoft makes nothing.


Yeah, thats about right.

Its like "Hi, Im a MAC","And Im a PC". Kinda.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491308)
Posted by Nuke Mayhem on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:30am CST
Maybe he made the mistake of buying a PS3 and wants to get some use out of it (besides watching the game he was playing freeze up before he could get to a save point. :p ). lol

Seriously, it's hard to figure out the mind of Bay sometimes. I wish I could say he's pissed because they're excluding Blue-Ray crowd, but that's too clichea.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491312)
Posted by BingoBrown on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:33am CST
Cheetron wrote:I'm one of those people who finally broke down and bought a DVD player.


Huh? You just bought a DVD player recently? Were you living in a cave? My grandmother has had a DVD player for years!
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491323)
Posted by City Commander on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:40am CST
Strike three to Sony!
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491330)
Posted by TheStarScreamer on December 5th, 2007 @ 10:45am CST
Blu-Ray... superior? HAHAHAHAHA!

I needed that kind of joke this morning. Anyone who thinks Blu-Ray s superior obviously doesn't remember the last few format war spearheaded by Sony *cough* (betamax) (minidisc) *cough*
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491363)
Posted by BigBot on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:03am CST
Blu-ray is far superior. More space per disc, more backing from hollywood, more backing from the electronics industry and a format that has been clearly winning and would have won by early 2008 if Microsoft hadn't paid off Paramount and Dreamworks.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491405)
Posted by Tekka on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:34am CST
It's official, Michael Bay is against HD-DVD. That is until tomorrow when he will say maybe they aren't so bad after all.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491408)
Posted by dabattousai on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:35am CST
Digital Downloads will somewhat suck if Microsoft is aiming at the computer for that, but if they release a system that does it all like the 360 with HD and Standard and stuff like that, then that will be interesting.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491410)
Posted by QuietStorm on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:37am CST
TheStarScreamer wrote:Blu-Ray... superior? HAHAHAHAHA!

I needed that kind of joke this morning. Anyone who thinks Blu-Ray s superior obviously doesn't remember the last few format war spearheaded by Sony *cough* (betamax) (minidisc) *cough*


And you forgot the recently useless (except for it's own system) format of UMD. Goodness what other format is Sony gonna throw out next?

BigBot wrote:Blu-ray is far superior. More space per disc, more backing from hollywood, more backing from the electronics industry and a format that has been clearly winning and would have won by early 2008 if Microsoft hadn't paid off Paramount and Dreamworks.


You seem to forget that Paramount purchased majority holdings of DreamWorks. They are the same company. Sony's not hurting from this--they own tons of movie studios and they've got a lucrative deal with Disney for ALL of the Magic Kingdom's films coming out on the BluRay.

I just want them all to hurry up and lose so that I go purchase the system of the winner and not have to wait on the format wars to be over. This has happened before, and frankly, it will happen again. Nintendo vs. Sega, Coke vs. Pepsi, just to name a couple...

Word.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491417)
Posted by First Gen on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:39am CST
How do you describe Blu Ray?

Anyone remember Sega CD?

Yeah, its kinda like that.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491423)
Posted by tile_mcgillus on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:42am CST
Michael Bay is a jerk who apparently doesn't know what he is talking about. Plain and simple.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491426)
Posted by Tekka on December 5th, 2007 @ 11:42am CST
From reading these posts it doesn't really seem to be a case of HD-DVD vs Blu Ray in people's minds, but of Microsoft vs Sony. :P
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491462)
Posted by BigDude on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:03pm CST
It's official: Michael Bay is the biggest PS3 fanboy ever.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491469)
Posted by Chindogg on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:05pm CST
What he neglects to mention is that Microsoft helped design the software architecture of HD-DVD during its inception. HD-DVD uses Microsoft's HDi codecs for its menu system, unlike Blu-ray's Java-based BD-J system. In short, Bay should stick with making movies and not rambling about business that he knows nothing about.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491473)
Posted by Sid Burn on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:07pm CST
BigBot wrote:Blu-ray is far superior. More space per disc, more backing from hollywood, more backing from the electronics industry and a format that has been clearly winning and would have won by early 2008 if Microsoft hadn't paid off Paramount and Dreamworks.


Glad to see someone has the facts. To all those using the Betamax/VHS war as a crutch for their argument that Sony will lose this format war, get over it, that was decades ago. It is not a valid point today with how huge and influential Sony is.

Bottom line is this, more capacity = better HD quality, for picture AND sound. Bluray discs hold 50 gigs, HDDVD hold 30 gigs. If you cannot do that math then I cant help you.

Blu is outselling HDDVD worldwide at a ratio of 3 to 1. Even on the week Transformers came out on HDDVD, Bluray STILL outsold them despite being denied Transformers for a period of 18 months (the amount of time viacom bought exclusivity for TF on HDDVD)

Bluray will see Transformers and it will probably be some kind of ultimate edition, only Bluray can handle a perfect HD encoding and true lossless audio.

Micheal Bay is speaking the truth.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491479)
Posted by npk on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:10pm CST
Blu-ray is far superior. More space per disc (to put what on nobody knows yet), more studios owned by Sony, more expensive to manufacture media, more prone to media corruption, more expensive to manufacture readers, readers more prone to breakdown, uses same exact compression on most releases. Yup, far superior to HD-DVD.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491537)
Posted by Sid Burn on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:42pm CST
npk wrote:Blu-ray is far superior. More space per disc (to put what on nobody knows yet), more studios owned by Sony, more expensive to manufacture media, more prone to media corruption, more expensive to manufacture readers, readers more prone to breakdown, uses same exact compression on most releases. Yup, far superior to HD-DVD.


Oh man, this is a hilarious argument. Lets break it down shall we friends?

HDDVD limited capacity has already shown that they will be unable to support lossless audio because it takes up too much space. This means the best audio from HDDVD will never be theatre quality.

HD encodings are also very space consuming and again we see that HDDVD is at its limit, the majority of current HD discs need at least 25 gigs to do a decent HD transfer, that means that HDDVD is already releasing titles with multiple discs for the extras. This format was supposed to eliminate the need for multidisk movies but the storage capacity is tapped.

Regardless of how expensive the discs are to manufacture, Bluray and HDDVD discs are offered at the same price, so I cant imagine why the consumer would care since they arent seeing a higher price. Sony is absorbing the cost until the technology becomes cheaper.

In terms of compression, it is true that many releases have the same compression RIGHT NOW. But in the future, when transfers require more than 30 gigs to be fully realized, HDDVD enthusiasts are going to be feeling the burn of buyer's remorse. This isnt far away, HDDVD already admitted that they were not able to offer lossless audio on some of their recent releases due to space limitations.

I am not sure if you are citing Sonys ownership of many film studios as a negative or a positive but either way, it is great news for Blu. HDDVD will NEVER see Pirates, James Bond, Spiderman and a list of other highly regarded franchises.

In terms of breakdown and media corruption, this simply isnt the case and I dont know who you are gleaming this information from. With HDDVDs greatest supporter being Microsoft itself, known for Xbox's red ring of death, it is HDDVD that has the reader issues.

Thanks for the laughs, hope you learned something.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491547)
Posted by Sloptank on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:48pm CST
To 99% of the people watching movies, the difference between the two is insignificant.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491556)
Posted by devil prime on December 5th, 2007 @ 12:52pm CST
Blu-Ray and Hd-DVD are the same thing
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491576)
Posted by Ariannus on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:00pm CST
It isn't a issue of Microsoft vs Sony its the HD-DVD Promotion Group (http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/about/member.html) vs the Blu-ray Disc Association (http://www.blu-raydisc.com/general_information/Section-14009/Index.html).

For that matter if the Blu-ray Disc Association hadn't voted against licensing Microsoft's HDi system for Blue-ray instead of Java, the two groups would have reached a deal and we wouldn't even have HD-DVD now.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491584)
Posted by Tyrenol on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:05pm CST
This "Michael Bay" flesh cheature... He sure knows his oily residuals.

I agree, though. We now have HDMI upconvert DVD players; and MP3 players capable of playing movies. Let us wait until the prices go down before we hand the crown to the winner.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491590)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:10pm CST
This hole DVD war is stupid. They should just combine the two formats. that way every one makes money and the whole industry is happy. Except those who want the retarded digital downloads to win. But thats a good thing. Digital Downloads take to much effort, time and hard drive space. And why is it every time something like this happens Bay has to comment? I hope he gets axed from the TF franchise soon because im getting sick of this moron.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491596)
Posted by Sid Burn on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:14pm CST
Sloptank wrote:To 99% of the people watching movies, the difference between the two is insignificant.


Well the percentage of people who care about HD content know the difference.

Thats why it annoys me to see soooo many uninformed posters making statements like "HDDVD and Bluray are the same."
Some of the responses on this topic have no basis in reality whatsoever.

For a videophile like myself, the differnence between the two formats is a gap in quality that cannot be ignored. I dont expect the average guy to give a shit, it is the early adopters like me that make or break these format wars.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491642)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:35pm CST
More of Bay's tricks!

But seriously, it's not like a movie can only be released once!?!

Do it again with better special features too.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491653)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:41pm CST
BluRay forever!
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491671)
Posted by Crosscheck on December 5th, 2007 @ 1:51pm CST
When tri-layer HD-DVDs start popping up, people will be singing a different tune about Blu-Ray being superior.

Besides, the vast majority of Blu-Ray disks are the twenty-five gb disk, not the fifty gb disk. That is even less than 30 gb version of the HDDVD, which almost all HDDVDs are released in.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491690)
Posted by Seibertron on December 5th, 2007 @ 2:02pm CST
TheStarScreamer wrote:Blu-Ray... superior? HAHAHAHAHA!

I needed that kind of joke this morning. Anyone who thinks Blu-Ray s superior obviously doesn't remember the last few format war spearheaded by Sony *cough* (betamax) (minidisc) *cough*


Not sure I agree with the comment about Betamax, despite it losing to VHS tapes back in the 80s. Here's an interesting read about Betamax on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491699)
Posted by Seibertron on December 5th, 2007 @ 2:06pm CST
Here's a fun quote from Wikipedia's Videotape Format War page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotape_format_war

Betamax sales dwindled away and VHS emerged as the winner of the format war — despite being the least sophisticated of the three main rivals. VHS benefited from continuous development from multiple manufacturers (including Sony) over the years, and innovations such as high speed picture search, Hi-Fi stereo sound and fast-load tape mechanisms saw it keep pace with and eventually surpass Betamax.

When it became clear that Betamax had lost the video format war, controversy switched from which technology was better to why VHS had triumphed so completely. The video format war is now a highly scrutinized event in business and marketing history, leading to a plethora of market investigations into why Betamax failed. As mentioned above, Sony was first to release their format, but was followed only a year later by JVC and their affiliates.

Sony, being the first producer to offer their technology, thought it would establish Betamax as the leading format. This kind of lock-in and path dependence is exactly what economists point out as the Betamax weak link (Liebowitz, 1995).

What Sony didn't take into account was what the consumers wanted. Sony believed that having better quality recordings was the key to success, whereas it soon became clear that consumer desire was focused more intently on recording time and compatibility for easy transfer of information (Besen, 1994). The video recording market was an unknown when VCRs first came on the market; as such, Sony and JVC were both developing technologies that were unproven. As a result of the desire to get into the marketplace faster, the firms both spent less time on research and development, and tried to save money by picking a version of the technology they thought would do best without really exploring all the options (Cowan, 1991). This is why there was more than one format on the market and why they continued to reinvent them with longer playing times and better quality.

In 1988 Sony began to market their own VHS machines, and despite claims that they were still backing Beta, it was clear that the format was dead -- at least in Europe and the U.S.. In parts of South America, Beta continued to be popular, and in Japan, the format was developed into ED-Beta and SuperBeta, and was still produced up to the end of 2002. The rise of DVD finally took away the niche market that Betamax had survived in during the 90s, giving the home format a total lifespan of 27 years.

Today, the only remaining aspect of the Betamax system is the slang term 'Betamaxed', used to describe something that had a brief shelf life and was quickly replaced by the competition. Despite the failure of Betamax, its technological successor, the Betacam tape would become an industry standard for video recording, production and presentation, and continues to be used to this day, only now beginning to be supplanted by direct hard drive storage of video.

After the videotape format war the major electronics corporations agreed on a single standard for DVD in December 1995, but a format war resulted from a failure to agree on a single standard for DVD's high-definition successor in May 2005 [4].
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491763)
Posted by dragons on December 5th, 2007 @ 2:37pm CST
i say just combine the 2 fromats so battle can be over and there will be just 2 fromats hd/blueray and regualr dvds
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491863)
Posted by eggshen on December 5th, 2007 @ 3:32pm CST
SidBurn wrote: "Glad to see someone has the facts. To all those using the Betamax/VHS war as a crutch for their argument that Sony will lose this format war, get over it, that was decades ago. It is not a valid point today with how huge and influential Sony is."

You see the facts because you are a blu ray fanboy. Why did Transformers HD DVD just win an award for best audio? Show me one movie where the 50gb dics improves picture quality. Why does HD DVD usually have better extras? Oh that's right..cause Blu Ray can't play java. Most of the Blu Ray exclusives that I'm interested in are available over seas. Underworld 1&2 Terminator2, Reign of Fire, Total Recall, Reservoir Dogs, Resident Evil 1&2, Mr and Mrs Smith, First Blood and Rambo's..the list goes on. It's great that ALL HD DVD players are region free...something Blu Ray is missing. Enjoy your DRM fanboy.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491885)
Posted by Zeds on December 5th, 2007 @ 3:43pm CST
Michael Bay and his rants want to make me compare him to a disgruntled postal worker just needing one last push to be sent over the edge :BOOM:
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491902)
Posted by Blitzwing the warrior on December 5th, 2007 @ 3:51pm CST
I bet tomorrow Bay will come out and say "Sorry guys, I was drunk again and digital downloads are awesome"
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491924)
Posted by BigBot on December 5th, 2007 @ 3:59pm CST
eggshen wrote:You see the facts because you are a blu ray fanboy. Why did Transformers HD DVD just win an award for best audio?{/QUOTE]

Just wondering where this award was won? Considering the HD DVD version of Transformers does not have a true HD audio package (5.1 Dolby Digital Plus), That seems a poor award to win.

Show me one movie where the 50gb dics improves picture quality. Why does HD DVD usually have better extras?


Point of opinion there.

Oh that's right..cause Blu Ray can't play java.


Blu-ray can't play Java?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Ja ... re_support

Most of the Blu Ray exclusives that I'm interested in are available over seas. Underworld 1&2 Terminator2, Reign of Fire, Total Recall, Reservoir Dogs, Resident Evil 1&2, Mr and Mrs Smith, First Blood and Rambo's..the list goes on. It's great that ALL HD DVD players are region free...something Blu Ray is missing. Enjoy your DRM fanboy.


OK, I agree with the region coding thing, I hate it, but not all disc are region encoded and studios like the fact that Blu-ray discs have far better security and still play when scratched.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491951)
Posted by Robinson on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:11pm CST
The world has become so spoiled with this Hi-Def crap. We forget how content we were 15 years ago when Vhs was the king of home entertainment, then comes dvd and we get 5 hours of bonus features that majority of casual viewers really don't care all to much about. There are those of use that watch the features and like them but there are many more that could care less. Thats why studios still put out bare bones versions of movies. Now do we really need dvd's that have 30,50,100 gigs of space just so people can hear if an extra farted on set? I know I don't.

I have better things to spend money on than whether or not I can see a bolt's thread pattern on primes thigh.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (491999)
Posted by Ravage XK on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:28pm CST
Blu Ray is far out selling HD DVD in Europe (according to reports). I imagine the PS3's pretty top notch player has something to do with it and now the price has finally come down I expect its position to grow.

To judge a new format on those that have some before it (UMD etc)is completly wrong as they have little in common other than they are Sony formats and the UMD only exists to serve the PSP.

So far as bitching about storage space on a disc goes, it will only make any real difference when it comes to storing PC files. Who cares if a disc can store 50gig over a 25gig when there is nothing to put on it. Very few movies come with enough extra content to fill them as it is.

I didnt choose to own a Blu Ray player, I got it when I bought my PS3. Now that I have it I will feed it with discs for as long as I can. Maybe that will be until HD DVD beats it or maybe it will be when Blu Ray 2 launches,I dont know. One thing I do know is THAT I AM SICK OF THE BITCHING THAT GOES ON between supporters of the different formats.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492015)
Posted by Robinson on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:32pm CST
Ravage XK wrote:One thing I do know is THAT I AM SICK OF THE BITCHING THAT GOES ON between supporters of the different formats.


That right there is why I am perfectly fine with my standard dvd's. People have favorites and thats fine with me but it's going to suck in the end for the format that does eventually lose out or if in 3 years something superior than blue ray or hddvd comes out.


P.S.And I don't need my video game system to play dvd's either when I already have one hooked up.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492017)
Posted by UltraPrimal on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:33pm CST
Bribe money run out, eh?
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492022)
Posted by Seibertron on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:35pm CST
I just want to say that I own an HD DVD player that I bought just for Transformers. Ever since Transformers came out, every other movie that I've wanted to buy (such as Die Hard 4, Superbad, Pirates 3 and Spiderman along with about another 1/2 dozen movies) have come out exclusively on Blu-Ray. Transformers is the only movie that I've wanted on HD DVD since Oct 16. When I go to Best Buy and I see more than twice the shelf space available for Blu-Ray over HD DVD, I can't help but think that I jumped on the bandwagon too soon. To be perfectly honest, I wish that I had bought a Blu-Ray player instead.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492031)
Posted by Robinson on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:39pm CST
Seibertron wrote:I just want to say that I own an HD DVD player that I bought just for Transformers. Ever since Transformers came out, every other movie that I've wanted to buy (such as Die Hard 4, Superbad, Pirates 3 and Spiderman along with about another 1/2 dozen movies) have come out exclusively on Blu-Ray. Transformers is the only movie that I've wanted on HD DVD since Oct 16. When I go to Best Buy and I see more than twice the shelf space available for Blu-Ray over HD DVD, I can't help but think that I jumped on the bandwagon too soon. To be perfectly honest, I wish that I had bought a Blu-Ray player instead.


Good ole DVD, everything that should and some things that shouldn't are all there.



I know I sound like a broken record, but hey.........oh look cookies.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492041)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:41pm CST
Robinson wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:One thing I do know is THAT I AM SICK OF THE BITCHING THAT GOES ON between supporters of the different formats.


That right there is why I am perfectly fine with my standard dvd's. People have favorites and thats fine with me but it's going to suck in the end for the format that does eventually lose out or if in 3 years something superior than blue ray or hddvd comes out.


P.S.And I don't need my video game system to play dvd's either when I already have one hooked up.


Agreed about that, playing movies on a game system isn't realy to good for it anyway.

I have seen some BluRay stuff though and it looks real good!

But to your origional point about fans of the loosing format, it does suck. I still remember having Beta and watching it go the wayside.

To his dying day, my Dad always said it was better... :cry:
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492043)
Posted by MaikeruSama on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:42pm CST
Heh yeah I hate Microsoft. Sam shit they dow with the Xbox. Bull Shit advertisement. Man I love what Bay just said!
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492063)
Posted by polystyleneman on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:51pm CST
As bad as the first on was, the best thing these guys could do for a Transformers movie is to make sure that another one never happens until an entirely different group of people are responsible for it. It wasn't just bad as a Transformers movie, it was a horrible excuse for any kind of entertainment.
Re: Michael Bay slams Microsoft and HD-DVD (492078)
Posted by Robinson on December 5th, 2007 @ 4:57pm CST
polystyleneman wrote:As bad as the first on was, the best thing these guys could do for a Transformers movie is to make sure that another one never happens until an entirely different group of people are responsible for it. It wasn't just bad as a Transformers movie, it was a horrible excuse for any kind of entertainment.

Many people will agree with that opinion, while I like many others will disagree with it. However that is neither here nor their. But rest assured another one will happen and it will make money and more movies.

Now back to the topic at hand, what are your thoughts on the Format Wars that are going on?
I say its all poppycock!!

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