Mi Pad Soundwave from Hasbro and Xiaomi
Tuesday, April 5th, 2016 8:46AM CDT
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 5th, 2016 @ 8:53am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2016 @ 8:55am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Woo, nice! I wonder if they'll do one in blue. I also wonder if it'll be voyager sized. It looks bigger than a regular deluxe, but it's hard to tell.
One of the videos in the article has him next to MP-10, so check it out.
Posted by joevill on April 5th, 2016 @ 9:22am CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 5th, 2016 @ 9:50am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
Its interesting but the robot is really messy and quite ugly.
Posted by Shuttershock on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Soundwave still transforms into a box, albeit a very flat one.
Its interesting but the robot is really messy and quite ugly.
Yeah, I have to agree. Might just be the color choice, but nothing about it really says 'Soundwave' to me. Maybe Movie Soundwave at a stretch.
Looks like that Year of the Goat Soundwave.
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:20am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:Ravage XK wrote:Soundwave still transforms into a box, albeit a very flat one.
Its interesting but the robot is really messy and quite ugly.
Yeah, I have to agree. Might just be the color choice, but nothing about it really says 'Soundwave' to me. Maybe Movie Soundwave at a stretch.
Looks like that Year of the Goat Soundwave.
Looking at the video, the name soundwave is almost arbitrary. They didnt design the toy with soundwave in mind. The name came after when they were wondering what the most bankable name to sell this communication tech device themed toy would be.
Sabrblade wrote:The bit I find the most interesting about this is that it's being initiated by Hasbro instead of Takara when Takara is the one who previously did the Music Label, Device Label, Mega Drive Megatron, and PlayStation Optimus Prime toys.
It is weird, and it makes this an official toy that Takara has not engineered, which is quite rare.
Posted by Kyleor on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:31am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:38am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Shuttershock wrote:Ravage XK wrote:Soundwave still transforms into a box, albeit a very flat one.
Its interesting but the robot is really messy and quite ugly.
Yeah, I have to agree. Might just be the color choice, but nothing about it really says 'Soundwave' to me. Maybe Movie Soundwave at a stretch.
Looks like that Year of the Goat Soundwave.
Looking at the video, the name soundwave is almost arbitrary. They didnt design the toy with soundwave in mind. The name came after when they were wondering what the most bankable name to sell this communication tech device themed toy would be.Sabrblade wrote:The bit I find the most interesting about this is that it's being initiated by Hasbro instead of Takara when Takara is the one who previously did the Music Label, Device Label, Mega Drive Megatron, and PlayStation Optimus Prime toys.
It is weird, and it makes this an official toy that Takara has not engineered, which is quite rare.
You'd be surprised. A lot transformers are not hasbro engineered. Combiner wars, a lot of generations and and RID and the movie stuff are engineered at hasbro. Some are done with Takara but lately it's been a lot of Hasbro
Posted by shajaki on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:45am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT
Randomhero wrote:You'd be surprised. A lot transformers are not hasbro engineered. Combiner wars, a lot of generations and and RID and the movie stuff are engineered at hasbro. Some are done with Takara but lately it's been a lot of Hasbro
Firstly, your sentences are saying 2 very different things, you maybe out a "not" in the wrong place.
Regardless Takara engineers all Hasbro TF products for the lines you mentioned. This one here is a rare exception. Please show me where you get your info.
Here is an exerpt from a takara engineer about the RID line (which they call "Transformers Advenure):
The Transformers Adventure series came right after the development of the Movie Advanved series (Age of Extinction) and uses a lot of technologies developed during that previous line, as can be seen with TAV 01 Bumblebee. One of the main struggles of the "Advanced Series" was to replicate the rapidity of the transformation seen in the films and thus needing to reduce the amount of steps from one mode to the next while still getting the right look in both modes. We wanted to go back to the G1 era where kids from 30 years ago were fascinated with these toys and the fact that they converted from one mode to the next quickly made for easy play. We wanted to incorporate that speedy transformation and instant playability with the technology we developed in all these years since.
There are a ton of other statements like this on their site detailing the engineering process.
Posted by Microraptor on April 5th, 2016 @ 11:10am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on April 5th, 2016 @ 11:49am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:You'd be surprised. A lot transformers are not hasbro engineered. Combiner wars, a lot of generations and and RID and the movie stuff are engineered at hasbro. Some are done with Takara but lately it's been a lot of Hasbro
Firstly, your sentences are saying 2 very different things, you maybe out a "not" in the wrong place.
Regardless Takara engineers all Hasbro TF products for the lines you mentioned. This one here is a rare exception. Please show me where you get your info.
Here is an exerpt from a takara engineer about the RID line (which they call "Transformers Advenure):The Transformers Adventure series came right after the development of the Movie Advanved series (Age of Extinction) and uses a lot of technologies developed during that previous line, as can be seen with TAV 01 Bumblebee. One of the main struggles of the "Advanced Series" was to replicate the rapidity of the transformation seen in the films and thus needing to reduce the amount of steps from one mode to the next while still getting the right look in both modes. We wanted to go back to the G1 era where kids from 30 years ago were fascinated with these toys and the fact that they converted from one mode to the next quickly made for easy play. We wanted to incorporate that speedy transformation and instant playability with the technology we developed in all these years since.
There are a ton of other statements like this on their site detailing the engineering process.
I apologize, I meant to say a lot are engineered by hasbro. And there are. Just look up on the tfwiki and you'll see a lot of hasbro enployees designed a lot of figures. Almost all of animated was designed by hasbros team and there are videos all over online with interviews of hasbro employees and the figures they've been credited. There is even an entire bonus segment on Age of Extinction and Harris design team creating a grimlock figure. Yes, Takara does do designs too but they are not the soul designers of Tranformers.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2016 @ 11:54am CDT
Designing =/= engineering. The typical formula for TF toys is that Hasbro designs the toys while Takara engineers them. In the case of this Soundwave, however, Hasbro engineered it instead of Takara. That's what's unusual about it.Randomhero wrote:I apologize, I meant to say a lot are engineered by hasbro. And there are. Just look up on the tfwiki and you'll see a lot of hasbro enployees designed a lot of figures. Almost all of animated was designed by hasbros team and there are videos all over online with interviews of hasbro employees and the figures they've been credited. There is even an entire bonus segment on Age of Extinction and Harris design team creating a grimlock figure. Yes, Takara does do designs too but they are not the soul designers of Tranformers.
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2016 @ 12:02pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
I apologize, I meant to say a lot are engineered by hasbro. And there are. Just look up on the tfwiki and you'll see a lot of hasbro enployees designed a lot of figures. Almost all of animated was designed by hasbros team and there are videos all over online with interviews of hasbro employees and the figures they've been credited. There is even an entire bonus segment on Age of Extinction and Harris design team creating a grimlock figure. Yes, Takara does do designs too but they are not the soul designers of Tranformers.
You are confusing design and engineering. Ever since Beast Wars, Hasbro has designed the majority of their transformers. But, they then send the designs of the bot and alt modes and Takara figures out the engineering on how to get from one mode to the other. Both companies have desingers, Hasbro is about how the figure looks and Takara is about the engineering for how it transforms. Takara has engineered the transformation for absolutely every single RID and Gnerations toy of last year, no question, even the 3 step RID toys.
So now knowing this, you may udnerstand what I was saying all along:
It is odd to see that for this Mi Pad Soundwave, the engineering was handled by hasbro and not Takara.
Posted by Noideaforaname on April 5th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CDT
Still, after feeling like the brand's stagnating on its own self-references, this is a nice little change of pace. Would be cool to see it get a release over here, too.
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CDT
Do we really consider the backpack, gun, and shield as parts forming? Just seems like removable accessories integrated into the alt mode like we've seen since Beast Wars. Without those three parts we still have a full robot. And is it just me or does that backpack resemble Laserbeak? I wonder if that was scrapped from the original design?
Too bad it's being made for Chinese crowd funding, it's going to be tricky to get one of these cheap if at all.
Emerje
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 5th, 2016 @ 2:30pm CDT
IMO, a lot of that would be fixed if he were metallic blue. The combination of metallic blue with that black chestplate would do a lot to make him feel like Soundwave.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 5th, 2016 @ 5:41pm CDT
EDIT: Actually watching the video and not just looking at the pictures, I'm now happy. The screen is glossy as it can be! Me wants!
Posted by Unicron Magnus on April 5th, 2016 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by triKlops on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:53am CDT
But if the middle men jack up the price too much, it will be a reluctant pass.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on April 6th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
Posted by Whifflefire on April 7th, 2016 @ 3:24pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 10th, 2016 @ 9:09am CDT
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FXiaomi-x-Hasbro%20...%20SwmtJXV8Jr%3C%2Fa%3E%3F
Posted by Zeedust on June 25th, 2016 @ 3:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Woo, nice! I wonder if they'll do one in blue. I also wonder if it'll be voyager sized. It looks bigger than a regular deluxe, but it's hard to tell.
One of the videos in the article has him next to MP-10, so check it out.
For those among us who don't have an MP-10, can you put that in perspective for us?
Posted by Bumblebee21 on June 25th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Woo, nice! I wonder if they'll do one in blue. I also wonder if it'll be voyager sized. It looks bigger than a regular deluxe, but it's hard to tell.
One of the videos in the article has him next to MP-10, so check it out.
For those among us who don't have an MP-10, can you put that in perspective for us?
Do you have a rotf leader Optimus prime. Mp-10 is an inch or two shorter than that if it helps
Posted by william-james88 on June 25th, 2016 @ 7:30pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 25th, 2016 @ 9:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:There might have been some confusion. This toy is voyager size.
Thank you.
Posted by Doc bot on July 4th, 2016 @ 7:48am CDT
My wife freaked out when she first saw it. She thought I had cracked my iPad screen.
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 7:54am CDT
Doc bot wrote:Just got mine in. He's pretty awesome. Packaged just like a tablet would be since he's sized exactly like the Mi Pad he's based on. Despite looking delicate, he's pretty robust. Feels engineered as a Hasbro product and not a Takara product. I find higher end Takara TFs can be pretty delicate and have had many things break off over the years.
My wife freaked out when she first saw it. She thought I had cracked my iPad screen.
Where did you get it, e-bay? If you take some pictures to show us as different angles and give a few words on it, I could make it a news article
Posted by Doc bot on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:08am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:13am CDT
Doc bot wrote:I bought him off eBay for $60 shipped. Got him in around a week from China which was impressive. I'll post some pics I took while unboxing him after I resize them down some.
Just in case you didnt know, you could upload the pics to an image sharing site (I use photobucket.com) and they will give you a link to insert them on these boards, so you dont have to do any resizing.
Posted by Doc bot on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:10am CDT
I can take some better photos later along with the lazerbeak part and guns. I just took these quickly for unboxing fun.
Posted by Doc bot on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
Lazerbeak needs a bit of imagination to interpret. He attaches to Soundwave's back as wings.
Here's a group shot from the Soundwave family reunion.
Finally, here he is compared to a normal iPad. Looks just like a normal tablet with a cracked screen.
Posted by Va'al on July 4th, 2016 @ 3:50pm CDT
Doc bot wrote:Here are a few rough pics I took while unboxing the MiPad2 Soundwave I just got in from China. Pretty impressive engineering since he's so thin. Packaged just like an electronic gadget rather than a toy which is pretty cool. I imagine this might even be the same packaging as the real tablet. Since his back is bare, it comes in a gold colored sleeve that initially makes him look more like the real thing. The instructions are in a cool Decepticon shaped book with 30 steps (he needs them all).
I can take some better photos later along with the lazerbeak part and guns. I just took these quickly for unboxing fun. Articulation is awfully limited by his unusual transformation.
Lazerbeak needs a bit of imagination to interpret. He attaches to Soundwave's back as wings.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 4th, 2016 @ 4:10pm CDT
Dammit, why doesn't it come in blue?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2016 @ 5:28pm CDT
It might be meant to be Movieverse Soundwave, who was mostly silver.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I do want this and I'll get it, but ...
Dammit, why doesn't it come in blue?
Posted by dragons on July 4th, 2016 @ 6:30pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:17pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:18pm CDT
I wonder what are the chances of Hasbro importing this over here (or at least it popping up somewhere)? I'm guessing the Mi Pad license puts a hole in that idea, but boy if this isn't one of the more interesting TF products in recent years thanks to not being a slavish homage.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:19pm CDT
The head design still looks enough like Soundwave, and most like the Movieverse version than other versions.william-james88 wrote:If you watch the video in the first post they state that the name was given to this product after it was designed. They chose to call it soundwave because it was a communication device. Nothing more.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 4th, 2016 @ 8:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:If you watch the video in the first post they state that the name was given to this product after it was designed. They chose to call it soundwave because it was a communication device. Nothing more.
Well, they said "Soundwave would be the most suitable name for this product" which doesn't necessarily mean that name came after it was designed.
It's head is Soundwavy, albeit in a Prime-esque, abstract sort of way. It's chest also invokes Soundwave.
And it comes with a little Ratbat guy integrated in it's design.
So it has to have been modeled after Soundwave. At least a little bit.
Posted by Cobotron on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:05pm CDT
Posted by Doc bot on July 4th, 2016 @ 9:55pm CDT
Overall articulation isn't great, but he does have ratcheting hips and knees along with ankle swivels so can stand solidly.
Posted by william-james88 on July 4th, 2016 @ 10:11pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:william-james88 wrote:If you watch the video in the first post they state that the name was given to this product after it was designed. They chose to call it soundwave because it was a communication device. Nothing more.
Well, they said "Soundwave would be the most suitable name for this product" which doesn't necessarily mean that name came after it was designed.
That means there were options and that was the best one. It most definitely means that the name was secondary to the product.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 4th, 2016 @ 10:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:william-james88 wrote:If you watch the video in the first post they state that the name was given to this product after it was designed. They chose to call it soundwave because it was a communication device. Nothing more.
Well, they said "Soundwave would be the most suitable name for this product" which doesn't necessarily mean that name came after it was designed.
That means there were options and that was the best one. It most definitely means that the name was secondary to the product.
Gotta disagree there. It doesn't give any sense about when the name was chosen. Just that they had "this product" in mind - a transforming mi pad.
And it comes with a very Ratbatish minion. And the head too. Those things didn't have to be designed that way.
Seems to me that they chose a name, possibly with a preliminary design, and went from there. There didn't need to be a Ratbat. I'd probably agree with your interpretation if it wasn't for the presence of a minion. There's no reason to include that other than to tie it in with Soundwave. And it's a part of it's overall design - not an accessory that could be tossed in.
Posted by Starsaber468 on July 4th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:25am CDT
Doc bot wrote:I think one of the neatest parts of his transformation is his head. It's made of 3 slices that cobble together so that he can remain thin in tablet mode. He looses all articulation, but it's pretty cool.
Freaky. Don't get too many transformations that, by all rights, should actually kill the Bot in question.
(morbidly curious if there are any mechanical details inside the head slices, like brain modules or the backs of the eyeballs; doesn't look like it though)
Posted by Doc bot on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:43am CDT
(morbidly curious if there are any mechanical details inside the head slices, like brain modules or the backs of the eyeballs; doesn't look like it though)
No brain bits that I can see. That's a missed opportunity.
Noticed that Lazerbeak/Ratbat's "face" is the USB charge port. It would have been super cool if a real cable could be plugged in.