Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon to Premier May 1st

Wonder what explanation they'll give for primal here? Plus I also wonder if they are going full on beast wars and have primal take on Optimus Prime spark and get his optimal optimus body

He's furry... yet he turns into a rectangle.

It actually says at the bottom of the poster above, that it can be watched on Go90.

Bounti76 wrote:It actually says at the bottom of the poster above, that it can be watched on Go90.

Something interesting to note is that unlike other promotional materials for the new series, like the poster below, neither the post nor the video make any mention of the Go90 streaming service

That poster is actually a few weeks old. My comment was about how the new post from today only mentions their tumblr.

May 1st, A.K.A. May Day.

Nice of them to warn us.

Bronzewolf wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:It actually says at the bottom of the poster above, that it can be watched on Go90.

Something interesting to note is that unlike other promotional materials for the new series, like the poster below, neither the post nor the video make any mention of the Go90 streaming service

That poster is actually a few weeks old. My comment was about how the new post from today only mentions their tumblr.

That makes more sense.

I’m not even going to give this one a chance.

I fear Transformers is dead. The movies are trash, the shows are trash, and the toys are either trash or are good but never make it to retail because stores don't want shelfwarmers. It's starting to feel like 2006 again but with no light in sight.

This one show made you feel like that? Plus we still have the bumblebee movie from the guy who did that kubo movie. No bay in sight for that one. Plus the toys are still doing well, they may not meet your tastes but the franchise is far from dead. In fact we have the war for cybertron toyline coming and the rebooted idw comics after they deal with unicron (which looks epic)

Wow, great to see such positivity in the community.

I'm looking forward to it. My only issue with the previous shows were Menasor's grating voice and Windblade's Anime style grunting and shouting.

Ok Starscream and Overlord could do with better voices but they're not cringeworthy like Menasor.

Judd Nelson is great as Hot Rod. Megatron isn't portrayed as a one dimensional villain.

I like the aesthetic apart from Megatronus looking like Animated Headmaster.

I've enjoyed this a lot more than a lot of the series popular with the fandom like Animated and G1 Season 2.

It's a shame we didn't get more of the Seekers but it was nice to see Sunstorm in a modern cartoon however briefly.

Given how Prime believed Perceptor was worthy of the Matrix, I wouldn't be surprised if the Matrix transformed Perceptor into Primal.

Both characters were portrayed as peaceful scientists.

The third and final installment of Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy of cartoons, Power of the Primes. is just a few short days away. Meaning, of course, we're seeing more and more promotional material across the internet for it. Today's no different as we have (at least part of) a new poster for the series over on the Machinima Instagram page. The poster is being, well, posted regularly in increments, meaning we've only seen a few sections of it, but the rest will probably be revealed by the premiere date.
Even though we've only seen a fraction of the poster, it still offers some exciting new glimpses into the show we haven't seen before, showing off our first look at the Dinobots and Predaking! Check out the pieces of the poster we have currently, and then check back when the series premieres for our official review!

Looks like Megatron is front and center of the poster. I wonder if the reason he is hidden from full view for now is because of something that Hasbro wants to keep secret about him until closer to the series's release date. Like, if maybe this show might go the route of MTMTE and have Megs wearing a symbol on his chest.

Sabrblade wrote:Looks like Megatron is front and center of the poster. I wonder if the reason he is hidden from full view for now is because of something that Hasbro wants to keep secret about him until closer to the series's release date. Like, if maybe this show might go the route of MTMTE and have Megs wearing a symbol on his chest.

Mabee. But I'm thinking(well more hoping )that it might be his new Power of the Primes body . MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think the time has passed for him to get a new potp toy but don't worry, he'll definitely get a new toy later this year/early next year for the war for cybertron toy line ^

Hotconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Looks like Megatron is front and center of the poster. I wonder if the reason he is hidden from full view for now is because of something that Hasbro wants to keep secret about him until closer to the series's release date. Like, if maybe this show might go the route of MTMTE and have Megs wearing a symbol on his chest.

Mabee. But I'm thinking(well more hoping )that it might be his new Power of the Primes body . MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Or they broke the poster up and reveal a piece everyday to countdown to the show?

So, apparently, Snarl's dino mode head was modeled on that of a third-party toy - https://twitter.com/Speed_Freak01/status/988430609008726019

*Deep Beleagured Sigh*

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...Trailer:

beat me to it there Sabrblade. one thing I've got to wonder about this series... its bad. really bad. so why in the holy hand grenades of Antioch to I keep watching it? machinima or masochisinima.

On the bright side, at least Freddery is going to have more material to work with. The guy managed to take something decidedly mediocre and turn it into one of the best Transformers related things...ever really.

Immortal Starscream wrote:beat me to it there Sabrblade. one thing I've got to wonder about this series... its bad. really bad. so why in the holy hand grenades of Antioch to I keep watching it? machinima or masochisinima.

Well, how else are you going to know exactly what to criticize about it in order to give a proper, educated critique?

Random Thoughts...

1. Yay! they are actually getting this out in time to be current with the release of the toyline its promoting

2. Finally they can afford to get a combining sequence shown.

3. If I didn't know CW & TR were dumpster fires, This, on its own merits, admittedly, does look kind of cool

4. Where the heck is the jungle coming from? Someone must have accessed the Apocrypha known as BM...erroneously so.

5. I am (poorly dubbed Japanese movie) Optimus Primal you'd think by the 3rd time they'd learn about lip flaps, heck EVEN South Park was able to do it better 20 years ago.

6. So....this is all taking place in Unicron's head....Or was that like a *spoiler* for the next toyline (War For Cybertron is centered around the Chaos Bringer...??)

7. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Hasbro DO NOT extend your contract with Machinima for more series...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!! NO!

Sabrblade wrote:

Immortal Starscream wrote:beat me to it there Sabrblade. one thing I've got to wonder about this series... its bad. really bad. so why in the holy hand grenades of Antioch to I keep watching it? machinima or masochisinima.

Well, how else are you going to know exactly what to criticize about it in order to give a proper, educated critique?

On the other hand, does it really deserve a proper educated critique? Do I need to chug a jar of urine and write a long, drawn out review of the unpleasant ammonia tang before I can tell people that drinking pee is a bad idea when basic instinct is enough? Do I need to try tap dancing in a minefield before I can say safely that stepping on explosives sucks when they're expressly designed to blow up people that step on them? Do I need to play Depression Quest myself to come to the conclusion that, yes, it was an indeed depressing quest (and a scam to boot) when the stink that was kicked up by people who shilled for the game in spite of its apparent awfulness is still haunting the internet to this day? Not everything needs or deserves a "proper critique".

So in answer to your question, Immortal Starscream, you might have developed bile fascination.

I will say, from what little I've seen of it, it's not nearly as bad as some have claimed. Not good either, but not the cartoon Khmer Rouge people say it is. The animation ain't great but it's still better than Energon by a country mile. The writing is bad but that's par for the course with Transformers- good TF fiction is the exception rather than the rule. The voice acting ranges from decent to deplorable but again, see the vast majority of TF cartoons.

Black Hat wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Immortal Starscream wrote:beat me to it there Sabrblade. one thing I've got to wonder about this series... its bad. really bad. so why in the holy hand grenades of Antioch to I keep watching it? machinima or masochisinima.

Well, how else are you going to know exactly what to criticize about it in order to give a proper, educated critique?

On the other hand, does it really deserve a proper educated critique?

I'd say just about anything does, since blind hatred just comes off as annoying trolling.

Besides, if people hadn't watched these, no one would know how good of a diamond in the rough Jason Marnocha's Megatron is, which fully deserves all the praises given.

Blind hatred is annoying for sure. Educated guesswork/"I can tell this is gonna suck, I think I'll exercise good judgement" is not the same as blind hate/trolling. In fact, it seems as of late that showing restraint and not going to see something you know you'll hate is a prime target for actual trolls. See poor old James Rolfe and the torrent of abuse he got after saying "This new Ghostbusters movie looks a bit crap, so instead of paying money to see it and getting angry I'm just not going to watch it and preserve my cash and temper".

Of course when it's free to watch it's a bit of a different story, but even so, no point watching something you know is gonna be trash.

Thanks for sharing, Sabr! I'll get that posted shortly.

Black Hat wrote:Blind hatred is annoying for sure. Educated guesswork/"I can tell this is gonna suck, I think I'll exercise good judgement" is not the same as blind hate/trolling. In fact, it seems as of late that showing restraint and not going to see something you know you'll hate is a prime target for actual trolls. See poor old James Rolfe and the torrent of abuse he got after saying "This new Ghostbusters movie looks a bit crap, so instead of paying money to see it and getting angry I'm just not going to watch it and preserve my cash and temper".

Of course when it's free to watch it's a bit of a different story, but even so, no point watching something you know is gonna be trash.

Sometimes it takes a fair watching to see if something really is good or bad.

Like, Animated looked absolutely terrible in its earliest advertisements, but watching the show revealed it to be really good.

And with Combiner Wars, it took people watching it to see just how bad it was since it was hyped up so much as being really good by its creators and a lot of people were really excited by all of its first looks. But then when Megatron came along, people got hopeful again since he was really good. People kept coming back for him to see if either he could redeem the series by himself or if there would be more good things like him to help make the show better.

In cases like that, it took watching the shows so that we could make our educated guesses for later stuff.

A trailer for the upcoming Machinima Transformers apower of the Primes cartoon has appeared online, specifically from the Machinima YouTube channel. The trailer is pretty brief, but establishes the cast, where we left off in the last show, and some new shots of new characters. It give us our first look at the Dinobots in action, Volcanicus, Predaking, and Optimus Primal, as well as our returning characters Megatron, Overlord, Windblade, Megatronus, and Victorion. You can find the new trailer mirrored below!


The past two installments of the series have gotten heavily mixed reviews from fans, and the short break in between Titans Return and Power of the Primes (just a matter of months), makes some concerned that they didn't have enough time to listen to critique and improve the show more. Though, it does fix one criticism that fans had: it is premiering while the coinciding toy line is still on shelves, something the previous two shows hadn't been able to match.
Power of the Primes premieres May 1st, on Go90 and the Transformers Tumblr page. Make sure to catch the official Seibertron review of the show shortly after each episode airs.

I am jazzed by what looks like cybertronian plant life.... that works out well, I have visualised stuff like that in my fics. .I am eager to see this epsiode.

I still wished Star Saber had won the Power of the primes poll #NotmyPrime

shocksound96 wrote:I still wished Star Saber had won the Power of the primes poll #NotmyPrime

Yeah except it was fixed. These things always have been. I mean come on. Look at the gimmick for the leader class. That might have worked for Star Saber by how would it have would have having a smaller bot turn into a bigger one have worked for Hound, Megatron, Deathsaurus, shockwave and Arcee. Like I said a couple of the others sure but it was always gonna be primal due to the gimmick.

shocksound96 wrote:I still wished Star Saber had won the Power of the primes poll #NotmyPrime

Optimus Primal will Make Cybertron Techno-Organic Again!

Well, at any rate, the show will most definitely be garbage like the other two yet I'm still curious to see what happens, namely because this is the return of Optimus Primal to an animated serie for the first time since the end of Beast Machine in 2000, a whopping EIGHTEEN YEARS AGO! Now obviously this is not the same Primal, different continuity and all, but he's still a character which had not been seen in any incarnation outside of mobile games, tie-in comics, manga or the Beast Wars Uprising stories. Beast Wars haters will forever scorn him but let's not forget that before we got all these new continuities (RiD 2001, Unicron Trilogy, Movies, Aligned, Animated...) he was THE other 'Optimus' of the franchise. Love him or hate him but big bot was the original heir to the namesake of Optimus before the big old truck guy got rebooted.

Even if, admittedly, Star Saber would have been nice too...

Obviously I'm all too aware that Chalk could most likely not return due to the whole Canadian actor stuff which is admittedly a shame but expected. Oh well, this stuff happens. Given they depicted the base form Primal with fur I'm hoping he's shown turning into a gorilla and not the 'space log' at least initially.

That said I'm not sure if I like Hellboy Ron Pearlman in the role based on this clip alone but it could just be from how rushed and low quality if the PotP Cartoon but Perlman's line came off as all off and stilted and if his whole performance is like that it will lack everything which make Primal...well, who he is.

Randomhero wrote:

shocksound96 wrote:I still wished Star Saber had won the Power of the primes poll #NotmyPrime

Yeah except it was fixed. These things always have been. I mean come on. Look at the gimmick for the leader class. That might have worked for Star Saber by how would it have would have having a smaller bot turn into a bigger one have worked for Hound, Megatron, Deathsaurus, shockwave and Arcee. Like I said a couple of the others sure but it was always gonna be primal due to the gimmick.

I doubt it was rigged solely because Warden hate Beast Wars and the gimmick may have been chosen later in development. The gimmick scream Star Saber and clearly he was the guy Hasbro thought would win. It make no sense to rig the poll for Primal.

Randomhero wrote:

shocksound96 wrote:I still wished Star Saber had won the Power of the primes poll #NotmyPrime

Yeah except it was fixed. These things always have been. I mean come on. Look at the gimmick for the leader class. That might have worked for Star Saber by how would it have would have having a smaller bot turn into a bigger one have worked for Hound, Megatron, Deathsaurus, shockwave and Arcee. Like I said a couple of the others sure but it was always gonna be primal due to the gimmick.

While the gimmick may have been set in stone, I doubt Hasbro were expecting Primal to win since it is known that Warden and his team don't think that highly of Beast Wars. If anything, they were probably anticipating Star Saber or Deathsaurus to win, the latter due to how they seemed to force "Unknown Evil" into the final round as a wildcard.

Oh come on. I dont mean to sound like a conspiracy person but the fan votes have never been real. Windblade was chosen way before hand because they wanted to push female transformers in the media and it was never gonna be a male decepticon or decepticon for that matter because they wouldn’t have been able to promote a decepticon like Windblade. Same with Victorion.

Randomhero wrote:Oh come on. I dont mean to sound like a conspiracy person but the fan votes have never been real. Windblade was chosen way before hand because they wanted to push female transformers in the media and it was never gonna be a male decepticon or decepticon for that matter because they wouldn’t have been able to promote a decepticon like Windblade. Same with Victorion.

Which is why Primal winning is so goddamn weird because the current Hasbro team don't really like Beast Wars that much.

Skritz wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Oh come on. I dont mean to sound like a conspiracy person but the fan votes have never been real. Windblade was chosen way before hand because they wanted to push female transformers in the media and it was never gonna be a male decepticon or decepticon for that matter because they wouldn’t have been able to promote a decepticon like Windblade. Same with Victorion.

Which is why Primal winning is so goddamn weird because the current Hasbro team don't really like Beast Wars that much.

Because his name is Optimus. I would wager that had something to do with it.

I'm not so sure, man, simply because with Hasbro constantly moving toward a 'unified brand' that it would seem weird to keep around a guy like Primal around. They'd go "but the kiddies would be confused by two Optimus". Corporate suits think everyone is a moron.

UNLESS! And hear me on this: unless this Optimus Primal is, somehow, a reborn/reincarnated Optimus Prime in a callback to the original Beast Wars story. You see, before the show existed, the early BW material had made it a direct sequel to Generation 1 and Primal was just a renamed Optimus Prime.

Actually I can see people voting that way, I would have, having more female bots would be more interesting besides designs will have been done to some degree as we know the full life cycle of a figure is two years so the ones that didn't win will have been put away for a rainy day still one thing that bugs me about fan polling is why we have to jump to conclusions and say votes are rigged? So what that we got some more girls? So what that primal won? End of the day we got more TFs that people can buy if they like them.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I can see people voting that way, I would have, having more female bots would be more interesting besides designs will have been done to some degree as we know the full life cycle of a figure is two years so the ones that didn't win will have been put away for a rainy day still one thing that bugs me about fan polling is why we have to jump to conclusions and say votes are rigged? So what that we got some more girls? So what that primal won? End of the day we got more TFs that people can buy if they like them.

TBH, for all the fan polling they've done, I've always picked the female bots pretty much because I thought they would be more interesting. I also Voted originally for Arcee to be the new prime.

But I can see with the choices given at the beginning of the fan polls, why people would think it was supposed to be rigged.

Look at back in the day when Matty Collector did their fan poll. We know that one was rigged because Toy Guru closed to poll a couple days early, because the character he didn't want was close to winning over the character he did want. At least the Hasbro team didn't try that.

I would say, the gimmick does seem perfect for Star Sabre, and I'm surprised they didn't make him for this run for that reason, unless they really were pushing for him and decided not to make him out of Spite for the fans.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I can see people voting that way, I would have, having more female bots would be more interesting besides designs will have been done to some degree as we know the full life cycle of a figure is two years so the ones that didn't win will have been put away for a rainy day still one thing that bugs me about fan polling is why we have to jump to conclusions and say votes are rigged? So what that we got some more girls? So what that primal won? End of the day we got more TFs that people can buy if they like them.

Well it’s not even jumping to conclusion. Just look at the time frame of the voting. Windblade was done and 4 months later she’s in the comics. Dark Cybertron was produced during the voting process. They said that Dark a Cybertron even was produced almost a year before it was released. That’s why it has different artists than the regular ones. They were working on the current issues.

Same with Victorion. That voting happened in the spring and once she was announced a couple weeks later a preview for the Combinder Hunters came out. That’s pretty convienient timing considering the amount of time it takes for comics to be produced. Usually it’s 2-3 months before release.

Look how important how both those characters have been integrated in the comics and RID with windblade. They were never gonna have a decepticon in that role and in IDW. There was never gonna be a decepticon who could have filled the role she has in the comics. 3 comics with her name and centered around her and becoming leader of Cybertron.

Like I said I don’t like sound skeptic and such it man I don’t believe the fan contests are anything to boost fan morale

Randomhero wrote:Like I said I don’t like sound skeptic and such it man I don’t believe the fan contests are anything to boost fan morale

I'm not going to try to argue that the 2013 and 2015 polls weren't rigged, but I find it very hard to believe that Hasbro rigged the vote in favor of Primal, considering Warden's hatred of BW and Hasbro's obvious pushing of Deathsaurus.

I think pretty much every fan poll was rigged except for the Titan one in 2016 (for 2017's Titan) there were only 3 choices, and the votes were overwhelmingly for Trypticon (Rightfully so, and this coming from someone who's favorite character is Omega Supreme)...Unlike the results of that poll, have the results (meaning the percentages), been revealed for all the others been made public? If not that would be a good indication.

But as for this series, in my random comments on the previous page, I was not pleased with the random forrest on Cybertron, but someone pointed out on another forum, that those scenes may take place on Eukaris (considering Dinobots, Predacons etc...), which would make sense. I hope this is so. Also would make sense, they are looking for *Primal* on Eukaris.

For as bad as the prior 2 have been, I really enjoyed that trailer, especially Overlord and the combining Dinobots

It all looks promising, but man, the way Primal talks just reminds me of all the bad things these shows offered. Just so blocky. Open-shut-open-shut-open-shut. Hardly any shape to it at all. Looks like a dubbed anime.

Bronzewolf wrote:It all looks promising, but man, the way Primal talks just reminds me of all the bad things these shows offered. Just so blocky. Open-shut-open-shut-open-shut. Hardly any shape to it at all. Looks like a dubbed anime.

It took me a while but I know why this single sentence of Perlman as Primal had bugged me. It's not so much the different voice as the way the whole thing is said: so blocky, choppy and simplistic in tone. Lifeless. Now do keep in mind that I'm aware this is not the same Optimus Primal and that I'm all too aware that changing the voice for a character in this franchise is hardly new. However, it seems that upon a more serious analysis that if all the lines he say will be this stilted, the core of the character will be lost.

Primal, in general, a much more 'casual' leader than any incarnation of Optimus Prime short of the young and unproven Animated Optimus. His lines were generally full of intonation, emotion ranging from a general pleasantness (when in a good mood) to irritation and clearly holding back his pure annoyance (usually at Rattrap's whining). This choppy, stilted and pause-heavy and almost robotic sentence just doesn't sound Optimus Primal. It's not the voice which bug me, it's the way he intone his sentences.

In general, Perlman has a good range and he'd be very well suited to voice Optimus Primal but the impression I get out of this is that the voice actors weren't given any goddamn clue on how to properly voice the character and are just reading off the script with no context.

It's like the voice director said "Okay, Mr. Perlman, I want you to say this line... as BORED as you can possibly sound! Great idea, right?"

The terrible voice direction is, once again, hurting the performance of someone who SHOULD have been quite good in the role. Granted it's just one line for now. I also suspect these Machinima models don't quite have the range of even the old season 1 Beast Wars models who coult still show emotion and expression. Yes, even a guy with a half mouthplate like Primal.

Now he look so bored that, combined with the phoned in voice acting, he look more like a Mass Effect Andromeda character. But that's, of course. a general issue with Machinima's Transformers series.

The trailer for the sequel to two bull turd shows is also a bunch of bull turd?

Color me brown and surprised

Deadput wrote:The trailer for the sequel to two bull turd shows is also a bunch of bull turd?

Color me brown and surprised

I know right, who would have guessed?