Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online

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In case you missed the news, we've finally arrived at the final issue of the final chapter of the final part of the Prime Wars trilogy animated series from Machinima - that's right, Power of the Primes has reached its tenth episode, currently available on both streaming service go90 (for US territories) and their official Tumblr page here.

Give it a look, let us know what you think, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub discussion boards!

The final battle between Megatronus and the Transformers leads to unforeseen consequences that will have a startling impact on Cybertron and the entire Transformers universe.

Credit(s): Machinima

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968578)
Posted by Va'al on July 4th, 2018 @ 1:46am CDT

The final battle between Megatronus and the Transformers leads to unforeseen consequences that will have a startling impact on Cybertron and the entire Transformers universe.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968581)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 2:07am CDT

im getting a feeling that this whole thing must have taken place right before the great upgrade when they all became maximals and predacons because of the mention of future generations and primal prime being the new leader or maybe not this whole series never made any canonical sense
and then there's starscream, WTH! :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968588)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:14am CDT

I'll admit that seeing Optimal Optimus and Optimus Prime was kinda neat. This series overall though... ugh. So underwhelming.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968603)
Posted by Randomhero on July 4th, 2018 @ 7:15am CDT

Ultra Markus wrote:im getting a feeling that this whole thing must have taken place right before the great upgrade when they all became maximals and predacons because of the mention of future generations and primal prime being the new leader or maybe not this whole series never made any canonical sense
and then there's starscream, WTH!

It was never intended to be part of any established fiction. G1 or Beast Wars. It’s Generations the series. Don’t try and shoehorn it into any established fiction. Transformers fought, the war ended and this is what happened after.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968634)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT

Optimus Primal in the Beast Wars cartoon was never the same kind of faction-wide leader that Optimus Prime was in the G1 cartoon. He was only the captain of a small unit of Maximals who were the crew members of his ship. The entire Maximal faction on Cybertron was governed by the High Council, presided by the Maximal Elders, who reigned over the governing state known as the Maximal Imperium.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968692)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CDT

This wasnt as bad as the last two seasons/series. I truly wished this story was more fleshed out as this would have been a good way to tell a story with the toys made from Generations/Combiner Wars/Titan Wars. A story like this with the current toy line could have almost been like G1 all over again as the toys made match the show. Instead Hasbro puts their money on RID(Aligned) and now Cyberverse to peddle more 1 step garbage. Oh well....

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968701)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:44pm CDT

Well that 1 step garbage must sell...and hasbro is a business, so going where the money is isn't a bad strategy. Also didn't the rid cast all get toys? So wouldn't that be like g1?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968704)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:03pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Well that 1 step garbage must sell...and hasbro is a business, so going where the money is isn't a bad strategy. Also didn't the rid cast all get toys? So wouldn't that be like g1?

Well who knows...you have some number of actual sales to show it was a bonanza for Hasbro and the Transformers line?? It wasn't that great of a show or toy line. A lot of those figures were on clearance. Only a few notables here and there so I dont see what you're getting at. Hasbro is more than Transformers so saying RID was paramount for the company and the line of Transformers itself is highly dubious. I guess you're a fan of the RID(aligned) series so everyone must cheer lead yaah!!. The show and 97% of the toy line was garbage...yeah I said it.

(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)

So like I was saying...

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968705)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:22pm CDT

I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.

The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.

List:

Combiner Wars

Titans Return

Power of the Primes

so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:

Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)

Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)

Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)

Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)

Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)

Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)

Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die

Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)

Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)

Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)

So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.

Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968708)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:31pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.

The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.

List:
Combiner Wars
Menasor (died, resurrected)
Computron (died, resurrected)
Maxima (died, permanent)
Windblade
Optimus Prime
Megatron
Long Haul
Scrapper
Scavenger
Rodimus Prime
Mistress of Flame
Starscream (died)
Victorion
Devastator
Metroplex
Fort Max's face

Titans Return
Trypticon (died, permanent)
Starscream (shown to not have died, then die again)
Perceptor
Windblade
Stormclash
Menasor
Computron
Victorion
Devastator
Megatron
Metroplex (died, permanent)
Emissary
Fort Max
Mistress of Flame (died, permanent)
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Cron (spiritual death of Rodimus Prime)
Overlord
Optimus Prime (died)
Megatronus
seekers (all died, permanent)

Power of the Primes
Megatron (died, permanent)
Windblade
Perceptor
Grimlock
Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus (spiritual death like Rodimus Prime can apply here)
Slug
Swoop
Snarl
Sludge (died, permanent)
Volcanicus (died, permanent thanks to Sludge death)
Computron (died, permanent)
Menasor (died, permanent)
Devastator (died, permanent)
Victorion (died, permanent)
Predaking (died, permanent)
Megatronus (died, permanent)
Solus Prime (died, permanent, twice sort of)
Overlord (died, permanent)
Rodimus Cron/Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron died spiritually)
Emissary
Optimus Prime (resurrected)
Starscream (apparently never died and still won't)

so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:

Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)

Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)

Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)

Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)

Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)

Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)

Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die

Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)

Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)

Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)

So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.

Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!

Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968709)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968711)
Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:45pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)

This thread is anything but pro-Hasbro territory, as for the rest of the site, just ignore them. Express your opinion at will (as long as it doesn't go against the forum rules) and if anyone gives you too much grief, just report the post and let the Mods deal with it.

I cannot stress enough that people are allowed to dislike things and express their opinion, just like people who like stuff can do so, we just have to learn to accept that one person may not agree with another persons opinion, but that doesn't make them right or wrong.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968712)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT

I doubt we'll see any more of this timeline to be honest, given the toylines fresh start (still betting it's another reason IDW choose now to do a reboot) if they go down this road again it will be either pre war or during. Might even be how they'll tell the story of impactor vs mirage. Of course if they do go down that route, please make sure the studio who does it has a bigger budget, and a better writing team.

Also no where did I state I was a fan of rid, I'm more of a comics fan these days. My point was that they wouldn't make one steps if they didn't sell. I mean that's why the titans returns boxsets were scrapped right? Because the ones before didn't sell. I would never want people to cheer lead, as we all have our opinions, it's just when they are presented as fact that I speak out.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968732)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:05pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968747)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 11:53pm CDT

Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great

Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968760)
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:49am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968761)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:57am CDT

Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968775)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:01am CDT

Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968778)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT

Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968796)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 10:13am CDT

Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.

No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.

In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.

ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?

TV show, yes.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968831)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?

....I cannot confirm nor deny....

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968832)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:13pm CDT

Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?

....I cannot confirm nor deny....

You're not at liberty to say, eh?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968833)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?

....I cannot confirm nor deny....
You're not at liberty to say, eh?

LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968834)
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT

So, this is interesting...

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/

With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968835)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT

Bronzewolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!

Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?

....I cannot confirm nor deny....
You're not at liberty to say, eh?

LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.

It's okay, we know if you told us for real you would have to kill us. Top secret stuff and all that confidential jazz.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968840)
Posted by Skritz on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:44pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.

In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.

ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
TV show, yes.

It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968841)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:46pm CDT

Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.

Good thing it isn't.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968842)
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CDT

Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.

"Good" Is all relative, but that's about where I am as well, only one Really Great TF show that really impresses me comes along, about every decade or so.

Transformers (1984)
Beast Wars (1996)
Car Robots (2000)
Prime (2010)

The rest range from good to horrible, but these 4 are really the breakout hits for me. I know some might think Car Robots is an odd choice, but I specifically enjoy it, over Hasbro's RiD dub, and was fortunate enough to see most of it before it aired on US TV in the fall of 2001. It came at a time when I thought we'd never go back to vehicle Transformers, and had some great new designs, as well as a fresh take on some old ones. It's quirky and stands out, but for me in a good way.

The 11 minute format just isn't long enough IMHO to tell a decent action story. Most shows that have gone to this format are the mind-numbing comedies that CN puts out. And , well... if Machinima is any indication, unfortunately we've seen how *well* a short form action series does. I mean, if its going to be on TV, I'm sure Cyberverse will have to have more coherent writers, but I've been wrong before.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1968865)
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:So, this is interesting...

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/

With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?

They have the alternative in their Tumblr site, it's what the rest of the world had to use.

And geez it's a shitty platform.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1969423)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:37am CDT

Well, this is it. It's the final Tuesday for Machinima's Power of Primes cartoon, and we have just more episode to catch up on before we can cover the Finale that dropped earlier today. The battle for three ancient Transformers relics continues, so read on as we take a closer look at episode 9, Megatronus Unleashed.

(Note: The following review contains spoilers fro the Power of the Primes cartoon and the Prime War trilogy)

We start exactly where 8 left us, with Rodimus Cron having just been upgraded by Unicron, standing at the entrance to the Well of Sparks, having turned against his former ally Megatronus.

Rodimus takes the first shot, and Megatronus kinda just stands there.

Real nail-biting action there, guys. Well done.

This episode also brings the return of one of my personal gripes with the last few episodes of the previous show:

SPLIT FRAMES!!!!

*lightning flashes*

If you read any of my reviews for the previous show, you know these were sloppily put into the series in what felt like a last minute decision. They just suddenly started popping up, and didn't really feel like the flowed well with the rest of the series. The animators/screenwriters apparently decided to bring them back in this show, as they rear their ugly heads once again.
Now, this is not to say that sudden editing/tonal shifts in a show can be a bad thing. It's a slippery slope, yes, but they can sometimes work out. The cinematic shots in a previous episode were one of the biggest highlights from this show for me. They looked really cool, added something to the story, were well executed, and while they weren't there from day one, they were a welcome change. The split frames are none of those things. They feel awkward, give the show bad pacing, and leave room for some strange animation for the character that isn't currently speaking, but is forced on screen anyway.

Aside from the fact that they didn't even bother to animate his mouth, Rodimus' upgraded form suffers from some desperately bad audio mixing. He sounds muffled and distorted, and you can only hear bits and pieces of his dialogue. Between the overly loud music and Rodimus' sound difficulties, it makes this scene, and a majority of scenes after it, difficult to understand.

I don't just want to nitpick, though, so let's get on with the story. Rodimus and Megatronus finally clash, and the pay off for this scene is about as exciting as you'd expect. But, to give the show it's due credit, it is more engaging and action packed than previous episodes, with some really cool imagery thrown in for good measure. The filmography and color palette combine in certain shots to great effect. It's actually one of the most satisfying fight sequences the entire trilogy has produced.

Bane was more understandable than this.

The Autobots are finally released from their pillars of fire as Megatronus is distracted in the battle. They immediately set to work dismantling the Infinity Gauntl-sorry, the relic machine. Optimus Primal works on the Matrix of Leadership, and discovers it's calling to him. He removes it from the machine as the rest of the relics are released. This, of course, sets the target of both Megatronus and Rodimus on Primal, as they both want it for themselves. Grimlock and Windblade get blown away off the machine, and Grimlock wonders how they're alive. Windblade explains it's because Megatronus is getting weaker, although they've been shot by Megatronus several times before with no damage, so this revelation doesn't land with the power that the screenwriters I think intended. It would have been nice to see this shown in some way, make his blasters start to fizz out, make him look physically tired, etc.

Megatronus charges up a super attack as Solus begs him to stop, even though all the relics have been detached from the frame, so it isn't clear how she's still being powered. Just as the blast is about to hit the heroes, Optimus Primal uses the Matrix to protect them. Despite this, Megatronus continues the barrage in frustration. The Matrix has chosen Primal, however, and starts to transform him. For some reason, a shot of Perceptor is overlaid through this entire shot, and it's not really clear why. He's not exactly important to this scene or Primal's transformation. Or, at least, not more important than any other cast member. It doesn't help that Perceptor doesn't change his facial expression through the entire shot.

Isn't it nice to have this emotionless face slapped on top of what should be an emotional, vital scene?

The Matrix turns Primal into Optimal Optimus, fully connecting him to his Power of The Primes toy. Almost immediately he gets tackled by Rodimus Cron, who beats him to the ground. This is the second awkwardly long punching sequence in the series, where a character who should be able to at least fight back against whoever is beating them up, just get repeatedly punched in the same 1-2 motion. It gets to be strange and could have been solved by quicker editing.

Primal finally throws Rodimus off of him, but Rodimus recovers, and the battle continues into the next episode.

Can you imagine trying to explain this screenshot to someone who hasn't seen any TF show since Beast Wars?

As the series (and the trilogy) gets in to it's final moments, it feels a bit like they're trying to throw in everything they were mandated to but couldn't fit in prior. The inclusion of Megatronus' apparent grand scheme doesn't really fit, especially with the events of the previous shows. Megatronus' different attack moves are, and have been, a highlight. It gives a nice creative piece in the show, and it's honestly fun to see everything this Transformer god can do. The imagery of the Megatronus/Rodimus fight is great, as well. The pacing felt especially bad in this episode, however, and it's sad to see that the majority of it could have been solved by simple editing. As far as the actually concept of the show goes, while I can see it being a potentially controversial choice to have Optimus Primal to step into the Prime position to some, I personally have no problem with it, and enjoy just the ridiculousness of the mash up of some of these characters. We'll see how it all wraps up with the last episode!

If you haven't seen this episode yet, you can find it on the Go90 platform. Go check it out and then come back and tell me what you thought of it in the comments below. Do you agree or disagree? Please let me know! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you soon when I take a crack at the finale!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1969425)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:49am CDT

Almost caught up now Bronze :-)

just one left! Then you're freeeeeeee...

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1969438)
Posted by BumbleDouche on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:04am CDT

I love these reviews, but this show (and its predecessors) are such a convoluted, nonsensical mess that it's impossible to do anything but laugh, they really deserve more ridicule.
I mean, G1 & even the exalted Beast Wars had their moments with goofy scripts, exposition or plotlines, but the "nostalgia goggles" allow us to ignore all but the most obvious missteps in storytelling... This show, on the other hand, acts as if it *wants* incoherent drivel & craptastic fight sequences to be their defining legacy for future generations lol

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970256)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 11th, 2018 @ 2:57am CDT

Since it has been stated that Verizon is pulling the plug on Go90.com (and supposedly the app) many fans have been wondering where they can watch Power Of The Primes. The answer is that Power Of The Primes is now on Machinima's YouTube Channel. If you would like a playlist of all the current episodes, click here. All 10 episodes are in full HD for your viewing pleasure. Machinima's YouTube also hosts Titans Return while Hasbro's YouTube channel hosts Combiner Wars. It appears that the Prime Wars Tumblr page still works for Power Of The Primes fans that don't want to use YouTube. Enjoy!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970301)
Posted by joevill on July 11th, 2018 @ 8:37am CDT

Wow! This is good to know thanks!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970325)
Posted by YoungPrime on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:15am CDT

Not supporting that mess since all they need is are clicks and not our opinions to be able to make this mockery.

Any news on the Geewun Redun version?

Now that first one was entertaining.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970337)
Posted by o.supreme on July 11th, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT

So, I just wonder if the Target Exclusive of the BB movie (most likely a March 2019 release)will contain TR & PotP as *extras*, or if Hasbro would be bold enough to release the whole Prime wars Trilogy on its own Blu Ray.

I know one person who marathoned the whole *roghly* 4.5 hour experience. I'm admitting up front, I'm not going to do it, but I wonder if anyone else would take such a dare... :twisted:

*update* ok for those of you who like "Deep Hurting" (points if you get the reference). As stated above, All of CW is available on Hasbro's Youtube Channel, and all of TR & PotP is available on Machinima's Youtube Channel.

All 8 Chapters of CW total 45 minutes 16 seconds. If you happen to have the Target Exclusive TLK Blu Ray, you can save yourself a minute of precious time, and get a proper movie-like end credit sequence by watching it in this format (44 Minuets 5 seconds)

TR Runs 116 Minutes 55 seconds, and PotP runs 108 minutes 33 seconds (basically a full length movie each).

If you wanted to watch all content in one shot it would be a total of 4 Hours 30 Minuets and 44 seconds. Basically like watching two slightly longer than normal films, or, interestingly enough, like watching 13 episodes of your average-length Transformers series.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970618)
Posted by o.supreme on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CDT

Sabr- I think you are going to have fun with the new Youtube CC's I just watched episode 10 of PotP with them on to showyou it was.

They translated Optimal as "Optimum", Rodimus Cron as "Rodimus Crime", and the best one yet, Requiem Blaster as "Red Wheel blaster" :lol:

...

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970619)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 12th, 2018 @ 3:23pm CDT

Rodimus Crime...so that must be the rodimus of the reality where they are mob bosses who rule over a criminal empire

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970634)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 12th, 2018 @ 4:20pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:Sabr- I think you are going to have fun with the new Youtube CC's I just watched episode 10 of PotP with them on to showyou it was.

They translated Optimal as "Optimum", Rodimus Cron as "Rodimus Crime", and the best one yet, Requiem Blaster as "Red Wheel blaster" ...

YouTube CCs are rarely professional quality anyway. They're typically machine-produced, ridden with errors just like that.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1970823)
Posted by bluecatcinema on July 13th, 2018 @ 1:46pm CDT

"Rodimus Crime"... That's actually pretty catchy.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1972971)
Posted by Starscream is lord on July 21st, 2018 @ 11:17am CDT

It wasn't that good, but it wasn't that bad.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1972991)
Posted by Starscream is lord on July 21st, 2018 @ 2:07pm CDT

How they leave us hanging like that. :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1973009)
Posted by Burn on July 21st, 2018 @ 4:43pm CDT

Longlive Roddie wrote:How they leave us hanging like that.

I took the liberty of merging your thread and you're incredibly short comment into the main POTP Cartoon discussion.

Please be careful of where you post, and don't make threads for one line comments that can fit into existing threads. I have better things to do with my life than sweep up around here.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975176)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 29th, 2018 @ 7:19pm CDT

After a slight delay through the SDCC madness, we have reached the final episode of the entire Machinima Prime Trilogy of cartoons. It's been over two years in the making, and it's finally come time to take a look at the culmination of all those previous episodes. It's been a wild ride from start to finish, with a few ups and certainly a few downs. We are getting a bit ahead of ourselves, though, because we have one more episode to look at before the entire series draws to a close. Let's do that now, and make sure to read to the very end for more of my final thoughts on the entire trilogy. Join me as I break down, in our final Prime Trilogy review ever, The 10th epsiode:

Saga's End

Strap yourselves in, it's going to be a long one.
(The following review contains spoilers for the Prime Wars trilogy. There are A LOT this week. Proceed...on your way to oblivion.)

The episode picks up where the last left off, with Rodimus, with his newly upgraded form, in a heated battle with Optimal Optimus at the Well of Sparks.
Megatronus turns his attention towards the main cast, and turns the requiem blaster towards Megatron. At the last moment, out of nowhere, as Megatron is about to be blown to bits, Predaking drops from the ceiling on to Megatronus.

Preda-ex-machina

Predaking demands to know where the Engima of Combination is, but he never explains why. Megatronus engages him, and it gives a moment for Windblade and Grimlock to help Optimal Optimus. They hold Rodimus down as Optimal removes the Matrix of Chaos from within him.
As we switch back to watch Megatronus battle Predaking some more, we get a strange point-of-view shot from Predaking's perspective. It's a neat concept, but it doesn't come across very well, as we only see Predaking's arms for a split second, and everything else in the several-second long shot looks like a mistakenly placed empty frame. I even had to watch the scene a few times to make sure that's what they were trying to get at.

Heart Stopping Action!!!

We also get flashbacks to the first episode of the entire trilogy, when Windblade sliced through Menasor like butter, as Megatronus just tears Predaking's head clean off with little to no struggle in the next scene. You know, this giant combiner that was winning in a fight against Volcanicus just a bit ago. Him.

FATALITY

He then chucks Predaking's decapitated head at Megatron, who responds with an "Oh Shit", which is really strange in my opinion, to hear from Megatron's mouth.

I haven't really addressed the swearing that has really more or less suddenly appeared in this portion of the Trilogy, with "Ass"s and "Damn"s scattered all through the past 10 episodes, so I'll share my thoughts now. While I am 100% behind a more adult or mature focused Transformers show, this series seems to think that making Megatron say "You're starting to piss me off" several times is the way to do it, instead of a darker setting or more complex story lines. The words feel even stranger to hear because, as I said, none of the other seasons really had swearing this bad or frequent. It seems like the show runners sprinkled some curse words here and there this season as a cheap and easy way to make the series seem more "Adult".

This isn't to say I'm against swearing at all, either. Far from it. I think it can actually be used to punctuate emotional moments and make a character's personality distinct. But you can understand my suspicion that this series' use of it wasn't exactly for storytelling purposes.

GIVE ME YOUR FACEEEEE

Solus Prime, still flickering into existence using power from the Well of Sparks, makes the projection of herself gigantic, and picks Megatronus up and out of the battle with Megatron. She envelops him, dragging him down into the well, causing a column of new sparks to launch out in to the universe from the well, which Perceptor remarks will create the next generation of Transformers.

The heroes' problems aren't over yet, as the Matrix of Chaos, while having been removed from Hot Rod, is still searching for a new host. It finds Megatron, who was one of it's bearers in the past, and starts to be enchanted by the evil object. As he tried to fight it, he realises that the only way to stop it from just going and finding another host is to destroy it completely - Megatron included. Optimal Optimus readies the Requiem Blaster, and aims it at Megatron. As the realization falls over all of the cast that this is what must be done, they say their final goodbyes and thank yous to the former Decepticon leader.

As Megatron raises the Matrix of Chaos, Optimal Optimus primes the Requiem Blaster, and fires. Megatron is vaporized.

One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. But until then there must be no tears, no regrets. Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine.

Perceptor analyses the ground in front of him, and confirms that while the Matrix took the majority of the force, no trace of Megatron remained.

But the cast doesn't have much time to morn, as the one and only Optimus Prime crawls out of the Well of Sparks, because this cartoon isn't in the business of breaking new ground. Yes, of course the precious Autobot leader has to come back to life, and, on top of that, of course he has to upstage the death of the character that led the team through the majority of the trilogy. The show had successfully created a touching, emotional, impactful moment with the death of Megatron, and totally ruined it by saving Optimus Prime. Even if he had waited a beat or two longer to crawl out of the Well, it would have not only allowed time for Megatron's death to reach it's full emotional potential, but it would have made Prime's reveal more impactful.

IT'S ALIVE

Prime explains that he was reanimated through some confusingly illogical process regarding his connection to the Matrix of Leadership. But he says that everyone else who was killed by Megatronus can't be brought back to life.

After the dust settled, we see Prime and Optimal in what appears to be the Sanctorum again. Optimal promises Prime that he'll return the Matrix, but Optimus refuses. Instead they wrap up the character arcs in a not-so-tidy fashion. Windblade has become the city speaker for all titans in the universe, along with Emissary, while Hot Rod is still recovering. Grimlock has gone to morn Sludge with his fellow dinobots, and Perceptor is now the guardian of the Enigma and the Requiem Blaster.

EXPOSITIONNNNNNNN

And, as the two Primes continue to walk away, lurking in the shadows is the one who started it all, Starscream.

*Roundabout by Yes plays*

And on that bombshell, it's time to end.

That's it. This over two year long saga has come to a close. Looking back on it, was it really that bad? Was it really that disappointing? Did it deserve the hate it received? Well...I personally think so. This show started and ended with consistent problems, ones I've harped on, sometimes painfully so, before. Blocky, generic mouth movements, stiff animation to the point only one character (in a shot of many) was moving at a time, the occasional bad voice take, editing, etc. And while many, admittedly, were improved upon with each consecutive season, I think they dedicated too much of their increased budget on celebrity cast members than what was needed to fix the flaws, and new ones began to pop up. Continuity problems, notably, were one that severely impacted this season's first half of episodes. Characters being thrown one direction, and waking up in the complete opposite direction, for example. And, as an interesting side note, with the death of this show comes the death of it's host streaming service, Go90, as it's parent company announced it would be shutting down the platform tomorrow.

The plot as a concept was enjoyable, with many characters that we've never seen interact in Transformers media before thrown together. It was a fun thing to see, Overlord fight with the Mistress of Flame, Optimal Optimus fighting basically what was Nemesis Rodimus Prime.
To be fair, the show started with a disadvantage, premiering right as it's "Tie in" toy line was coming off the shelves, with the second season following the same unfortunate pattern. And while this could be written off as another fault of the show runners, or Machinima, I think that was a slight of Hasbro's part. Out of the creators' control.

Art was one of the absolute highlights of the show

Positives for me looking at the entire series as a whole were the art style/color palette, and the score. I've talked about both before, and, aside from the animation at times, it was a very pretty show to look at. It was at it's best when it cuts to a sweeping open shot of the universe, or a building with many colored lights. It felt very futuristic and modern, and I think they nailed the aesthetic they were looking for. I honestly think it's one of my favorite /looking/ Transformers shows of all time. The character models and designs are great, and, if they had been animated better and given better lines, most characters would also be some of the best iterations we've seen. As it sits, only one character from the trilogy holds that title in my mind...

It was that smile. That damned smile.

Megatron. Probably the most universally praised part of the entire three seasons. As such, I won't dwell very long. Perfectly capturing what a post-war Megatron would be, the show runners, character designers, and voice actor, Jason Marnocha, killed it. With a ridiculous amount of personality and wit, he is, hands down, one of the best new interpretations of Megatron we have ever seen.

And, ultimately, I think he's so good, that that's how the show will be remembered. Not for it's terrible pacing, or emotional moments that didn't really land, or Slug disappearing randomly. I think it was a show that started out with a disadvantage and hype it couldn't live up to (what show really could live up to "The Game of Thrones of animation) and, through a series of missteps, became fatally flawed. Despite a few diamonds in the rough here or there, I think, at risk of sounding like a fanboy keyboard warrior, but as a Transformers fan, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

And that's it. Thank you so much for not only reading this review of the finale of Power of the Primes, but all of my reviews over the past 2 years. I really can't express enough how thankful I am for your support of them, your memes based off them, or your discourse (whether you agreed or disagreed with me). I hope you enjoyed reading them as much as I enjoyed writing them. They were a lot of fun, and I loved writing comedy-based pieces to share with you guys. Stay tuned for some more Seibertron articles looking back on the Machinima cartoon courtesy of myself and William James 88 in the coming weeks. Thank you again!!!

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975202)
Posted by fenrir72 on July 29th, 2018 @ 8:29pm CDT

I wonder what would have happened if HB hired Ron Friedman or Simon Furman to have scripted the trilogy.

Overall, not a gut wrenching your raped my childhood moment. It could have been better is all.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975219)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 29th, 2018 @ 9:43pm CDT

It’s the Energon of our era. Mistakes were made (to the MAX) and hopefully soon we’ll revive more quality content. I feel that everything bad about this shitty trilogy was because of the rushiness and lack of caring from Hasbro, also hiring people completely unfamiliar with TF lore. It’s time to move beyond the concept of the 13. Transformers is strong when it has creative background to go off of, now there’s no new content, just endless homages.

Just an idea; but Hasbro should give us a once-or-twice a year animated film much like DC does. Mature films that hold over adult fans, ACTUAL maturity beyond just saying bad words.

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975225)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 29th, 2018 @ 10:23pm CDT

I wonder if the next series will follow old man primal and his grandson cheetor going to defeat Starscream in Egypt...

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975233)
Posted by Silverwing on July 29th, 2018 @ 10:57pm CDT

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wonder if the next series will follow old man primal and his grandson cheetor going to defeat Starscream in Egypt...

Will Starscream be possessing Optimus Prime's body from the neck down?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975235)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 29th, 2018 @ 11:03pm CDT

Silverwing wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wonder if the next series will follow old man primal and his grandson cheetor going to defeat Starscream in Egypt...

Will Starscream be possessing Optimus Prime's body from the neck down?

Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 10 'Saga's End' Now Online (1975236)
Posted by Silverwing on July 29th, 2018 @ 11:08pm CDT

Sigma Magnus wrote:
Silverwing wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wonder if the next series will follow old man primal and his grandson cheetor going to defeat Starscream in Egypt...

Will Starscream be possessing Optimus Prime's body from the neck down?