Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Ep 4: Unforgotten Now Available to Watch

That was actually a good episode. Best episode yet.

o.supreme wrote:4. *Voice of Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic Park..." ..so...you do eventually plan to have COMBINERS...in your COMBINER WARS series right..(fogs up camera lens).? ---I get this sinking feeling that their "big climax" is going to be a battle between Devastator and Victorion...I hope there will be more to it than that.

"You keep using that word (combiners). I do not think it means what you think it means."

Little "better" than the previous episode thus far. Don't know if it's because of what Sabr pointed out here that I agreed with or just that the plot for the whole thing is moving forward. I'm probably going to sit down after they're all out and watch them together to get a better feel for the episode. Didn't mind Megatron in this one either.

It's up on Youtube for non-US viewers



Seems to come out on youtube every Tuesday 5PM GMT

Took it's sweet time getting there, but this... 'series' finally got a likeable character. Megatron's just so snarky and savvy and clearly doesn't give a shit; I like him so far. He alone made this episode so much better than the others.
Shame there's no explanation why Scrapper, Long Haul and Scavenger were fighting him, though. No throwaway line to explain that? Optimus doesn't wanna know? We just gonna leave 'em there as if they were some training droids or whatever? Okay then, cool. Whatevs.

Just wondering, who is Megatron talking to in te stadium? there is no one there, the bleachers are all empty.

william-james88 wrote:Just wondering, who is Megatron talking to in te stadium? there is no one there, the bleachers are all empty.

Talking of the place being empty, the Constructicons don't appear to be there aside from the start where they're fighting Megatron and the end where they're waking up. Maybe this is all Megatron's delusion.

Kurona wrote:Took it's sweet time getting there, but this... 'series' finally got a likeable character. Megatron's just so snarky and savvy and clearly doesn't give a ****; I like him so far. He alone made this episode so much better than the others.
Shame there's no explanation why Scrapper, Long Haul and Scavenger were fighting him, though. No throwaway line to explain that? Optimus doesn't wanna know? We just gonna leave 'em there as if they were some training droids or whatever? Okay then, cool. Whatevs.

I took it as him training.

I liked that Megatron told Windblade to shut up, in so many words. If only it had worked...

Seems like Megatron is wasting away, nothing to do but spar. He was defeated whenever the prelude episode took place so he's got nothing left.
I don't think the Constructicons can combine yet. Megatron changed his tune real quick once Optimus mentioned Starscream and the Enigma(let's not talk about Windblade's wildly out of place punch). I don't think he cares about Starscream at all though. His hate for SS is just an excuse, a way to hide his ulterior motives. He's gonna turn the Constructicons into Devastator and try to reclaim his former glory.

This show still isn't any better. The animation I think was worse in this episode than it's been all along. Megatron's mouth movements made no sense and didn't fit his words.

Windblade is just.... Ugggghhhh.... So terrible.

Megatron was better acted than anyone so far, but his lines are awful. The writer of this show can't write, at ALL, they should find a new job, because writing isn't for them.

I was so looking forward to this series and so hoping it would be on the quality of G.I.Joe Resolute and it simply isn't even close.

We're halfway through the show and we still have no idea WTF is really going on or why things are the way there are.

So much potential, so crappy.

IDW did a better job and their books are almost as bad as the G1 Marvel garbage....

the frame rate is crap, the lip sync is all over the place and the story as a whole is so choppy it makes no sense.....

...but this episode is the best yet.

Sabrblade wrote:Episode 4 is up - https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_5c5908e732944a2ba306b4fa92e878d7

Just watched it and... surprisingly, this was the first episode I actually liked. Granted, the animation's still horrendous on the character models and the acting's still mediocre. But what made this episode for me was Megatron. His voice was so hokey that it was hilarious! And his dialogue was all over the place, varying from uber serious to so indifferent without a care in the world that the sheer variety and presence to his portrayal, combined with how ludicrously silly his mouth movement was animated, made him really entertaining in a "so bad it's awesome" kind of amusing way. He's instantly become my favorite character in this for how much of a joy he is to watch. More of this, please!

There was even a nice continuity callback to the Optimus prelude video.

That said, only three Constructicons appeared, didn't transform (Long Haul was in robot mode while Scrapper and Scavenger were in vehicle mode), and they bizarrely had JG1 Targetmaster/Armada Mini-Con/Prime Bumblebee-like communication beeps. Weird.

Though, Jon Bailey was a little better as Optimus in this one.

TBH in regards to the constructicons the story telling is so bad they could be clones/facsimiles for all we know.

this show doesnt seem to be particularly intrested in explaining WTF is going on half the time.

partholon wrote:...but this episode is the best yet.

Adding a bit of Megatron can go a long way.

william-james88 wrote:

partholon wrote:...but this episode is the best yet.

Adding a bit of Megatron can go a long way.

Quoted for truth. I am biased though, as I worship Megatron.

I liked the episode, like actually liked it. Megatron made the episode for me and I look forward to what he will bring

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I liked the episode, like actually liked it. Megatron made the episode for me and I look forward to what he will bring

Same. Megatron galavanting around in an arena was pretty cool.

Definitely gonna have CW Megatron off the shelf tonight!!

Also pushing myself to the upgrade sets..!!

itscramtastic wrote:Definitely gonna have CW Megatron off the shelf tonight!!

I am assuming in alt mode, since thats the only part that matched the cartoon model

All kidding aside, isnt it odd how in this cartoon, Megatron has a gun barrel in the back and a cannon on his forearm with no treads on his legs... and yet turns into a tank?! Where the hell did those parts come from?! I seriously though he was gonna turn into a gun at the end and was hoping for it with glee. I mean all the gun alt mode bits were there and then he transforms and I just....

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Definitely gonna have CW Megatron off the shelf tonight!!

I am assuming in alt mode, since thats the only part that matched the cartoon model

All kidding aside, isnt it odd how in this cartoon, Megatron has a gun barrel in the back and a cannon on his forearm with no treads on his legs... and yet turns into a tank?! Where the hell did those parts come from?! I seriously though he was gonna turn into a gun at the end and was hoping for it with glee. I mean all the gun alt mode bits were there and then he transforms and I just....*disappointed snip*

He was basically the CW leader Megatron with the X2 Toys kit. I did see the treads on his back though. And I loved it. Just lose all the extra bits while in tank mode. I'm ok with that #PARTSFORMINGSINCE84

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Definitely gonna have CW Megatron off the shelf tonight!!

I am assuming in alt mode, since thats the only part that matched the cartoon model

All kidding aside, isnt it odd how in this cartoon, Megatron has a gun barrel in the back and a cannon on his forearm with no treads on his legs... and yet turns into a tank?! Where the hell did those parts come from?! I seriously though he was gonna turn into a gun at the end and was hoping for it with glee. I mean all the gun alt mode bits were there and then he transforms and I just....*disappointed snip*

He was basically the CW leader Megatron with the X2 Toys kit. And I loved it. Just lose all the extra bits while in tank mode. I'm ok with that #PARTSFORMINGSINCE84

Also, Megatron is entirely* Guido Guidi's work.


*before the animation studio did their thing

Windblade said Starscream and the council was willing to use the enigma... he did suggest extreme caution to be exercised.

Why is Windblade so tall and such a bad ass, seems like she can take anyone! LOL did she just knock Megs on his butt with hardly any effort?

padfoo wrote:Why is Windblade so tall and such a bad ass, seems like she can take anyone! LOL did she just knock Megs on his butt with hardly any effort?

Yep. And with no real provocation other than Meg scoffing at his lifelong arch rival. Life c'mon girl, you were just fighting Optimus a few hours ago and now you're ferociously going after someone who barely slighted him?

I want it to get better, but I kinda want to see how bad it can get too. It plays out like a little kid's fanfic so far. If they get real ridiculous with it I might enjoy that. Not sure it can be saved at this point.

Mr Skram wrote:

padfoo wrote:Why is Windblade so tall and such a bad ass, seems like she can take anyone! LOL did she just knock Megs on his butt with hardly any effort?

Yep. And with no real provocation other than Meg scoffing at his lifelong arch rival. Life c'mon girl, you were just fighting Optimus a few hours ago and now you're ferociously going after someone who barely slighted him?

That's Murderblade for ya.

I absolutely loved this episode. Megatron stole the show and Jason Marnocha's voice for him is just awesome. It's nice to see the plot finally moving along.

You know, I have to say, this was a genuinely good episode. The characters were written well, there was a satisfying plot for only 5 minutes, and Megatron's voice was surprisingly good. What's an improvement is the overall feel of this episode. Unlike the others, this one is actually fun. I loved Megatron's banter, and the ride into the sunset was appropriately awesome! The background music really set the tone in this episode, and hopefully we'll be getting allot more episodes like this!

Tyrannacon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

partholon wrote:...but this episode is the best yet.

Adding a bit of Megatron can go a long way.

Quoted for truth. I am biased though, as I worship Megatron.

All Hail Megatron!

halfshell25 wrote:You know, I have to say, this was a genuinely good episode. The characters were written well, there was a satisfying plot for only 5 minutes, and Megatron's voice was surprisingly good. What's an improvement is the overall feel of this episode. Unlike the others, this one is actually fun. I loved Megatron's banter, and the ride into the sunset was appropriately awesome! The background music really set the tone in this episode, and hopefully we'll be getting allot more episodes like this!

Well written? Did you actually watch it? Nothing about this series is well written.

william-james88 wrote:

partholon wrote:...but this episode is the best yet.

Adding a bit of Megatron can go a long way.

You can always rely on the villain to salvage a garbage show.

I rather like the peak at a "retired" Megatron, who evidently spends all his newfound freetime simply fighting. No writing memoirs or treatises, no grand schemes or traveling the universe, Megs is just DONE and is happy to spend the rest of his days in the arena.

Galactic Prime wrote:This show still isn't any better. The animation I think was worse in this episode than it's been all along. Megatron's mouth movements made no sense and didn't fit his words.

Windblade is just.... Ugggghhhh.... So terrible.

Megatron was better acted than anyone so far, but his lines are awful. The writer of this show can't write, at ALL, they should find a new job, because writing isn't for them.

I was so looking forward to this series and so hoping it would be on the quality of G.I.Joe Resolute and it simply isn't even close.

We're halfway through the show and we still have no idea WTF is really going on or why things are the way there are.

So much potential, so crappy.

IDW did a better job and their books are almost as bad as the G1 Marvel garbage....

You could do better?

partholon wrote:the frame rate is crap, the lip sync is all over the place and the story as a whole is so choppy it makes no sense.....

...but this episode is the best yet.

Let's get this straight first. I enjoy any G1 inspired animation over the kaChintastic TFA etc. I don't like the IDW take on TF though it makes for great entertainment this attempt we are seeing.

Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Second, I was watching the show, all 5 minutes worth. I was not looking at the framerate.

Third. We all knew the story comes in parts, episodic 5 minute parts. Of course it will look disjointed.

Seibertronians, are you excited? The next episode of the Machinima Combiner Wars series is up, and it's good. Like, properly good. But it's still not without it's faults. Let's break it down:

We open with a dusty Colosseum-style arena. We see what is obviously the Constructicons fighting a mysterious figure, which is revealed to be Megatron himself. He beats them all quickly, and demands another challenger.

Our First Look at Megatron

Prime arrives, saying he's not here to fight, along with Windblade, who wonders why they came all the way out to a desolate planet for Megatron.

Windblade Watches from the Bleachers

Her City-speaker ability is again mentioned, this time by Megatron, driving that point home. Megs also mentioned how he's a big fan of her work (the killing part, that is). He rushes Prime, and Optimus has to engage the former Decepticon leader, with some of the usual mixed-in dialogue about how Prime "is nothing without the war", so on and so forth. It's actually very intriguing, as it points out interesting parts of Prime not previously divulged. This is one of my favorite parts of the series so far.

Just Like the Old Days

Prime has a flashback mid-conversation to the Black-and-white scene we saw in some of the Trailers for the series, when Megatron tells Prime to pull the trigger, and end it. Megs then catches him off-guard with a massive blow. Windblade comes in to try and save him, but Optimus is already back up and fighting.

Float Like A Fireflight, sting like a Bumblebee

The group talks about the Enigma of Combination for a bit, and Megatron learns that the Council is in possession of it.

Then comes one of the strangest and most out of place scenes in the entire series so far.

Windblade rather randomly and unprovoked walks up and sucker-punches Megatron to the ground. She tells him "Enough." (even though Megatron had already stopped fighting for a good few minutes, and he was making no motions to start again) and that Prime's "telling the truth", (even though Megatron hadn't shown any sign of doubt in what Optimus was saying. Heck, he didn't even have time to before he was suddenly beat to the ground.) She then proceeds to deliver almost the exact same line that Prime had just said, not only once but twice, one after another. And the times she says it sound so similar in tone that it almost seems like they accidentally put two takes of the same line in. Not only does she say it, but she says it in front of the constructicons! She literally puts the entirety of Cybertron singlehandedly in danger by saying basically straight to a combiner the one secret combiners shouldn't know! The Constructicons of course transmit this new info to probably all other combiners right away. This scene simply doesn't make sense. It's actually confusing. It's kind of a train wreck, and drags the whole episode down.

Megatron decides to be a part of the team, and the exit the arena. The old Decepticon leader decides to make fun of Prime's old catch phrase, and gives the order to Transform and roll out. The delivery (and Windblade's reaction to it) seem very out of place, especially after that last scene. It would have been better if it was delivered if Megatron had said "I've waited years to say this: Transform and roll out!" or something of the like.

And There They go, off into the Sunset. Headed for Cybertron


So some final thoughts. This is a fairly good episode, but the main problem was the pacing. It's been a problem through the series I haven't touched on yet, but in this episode it's absolutely unavoidable. It rears its ugly head with every change of Pace, feeling, tension, or drama.

Voice acting is good in this one. I'm getting used to Windblade, Prime's good, and Megatron's actor gives a great performance, though I wouldn't peg it as Megatron. Speaking of Megs, one thing of note is that this iteration of the character lacks his arm cannon, even though the designs of the characters seem to be heavily based on G1.

The Animation is especially great in this one. It's surprisingly smooth and fluid and looks really really good. Again, there's the mouth movement issues, but I feel we're going to have to move pass those.

One point that I feel hasn't been touched upon enough is the fact that this is the first time it's referenced or shown that a combiner is actually multiple bots. It seems strange, because up until now it's been implied combiners are one, not many. This really hasn't been explained, and I'd like to know the rules.

So, you've read my opinion, make your own by watching it on Go90, and then share in the comments. Is there anything I missed? Tell us!

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

Megatron did have his cannon but it was int he final scene just before they transformed and rolled out, I guess he took it off to fight hand to hand in the arena.

Kurona wrote:It's up on Youtube for some non-US viewers



Seems to come out on youtube every Tuesday 5PM GMT

Thanks for the link. Being in Japan, this isn't available for me, so I worked some Google search magic to find a third party solution, ahem.

Btw, could some people help me please? Which countries does the YouTube link work in? Does it work on both mobile and/or "desktop"?

I can confirm that it doesn't work for me on Android and PS3 in Japan, using both mobile and desktop user agents. I suspect that it's probably just Japan and China that it doesn't work in, as Takara owns the rights in those territories?

Anyway, did anyone think that Megatron appeared like King Robert talking to Ned Stark from the first season of GOT? I expected Megs to say "All I want to do is leave Cybertron and the Decepticons and go out and (deleted), (deleted) and drink. To hell with them all, Prime!"

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

That Bot wrote:I think he/she said we're wrong.

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Now, reality check. This show doesn't have the budget of like...any CGI based movie like that put out by Pixar. So expect less than Pixar level quality.

Pretty sure no one here in their right mind is expecting Pixar quality animation.

You did read the posts I was referring to? Frame rate etc etc are all part of the package in a CGI flick. Whether it be BW Prime or Adventure. Just sit down, watch and be entertained is the gist of my post. Not counting the frame rate or how "limited" the lip synch etc etc. Storywise, the show is just starting, lot's more to know like those movie serials Spielberg and Lucas grew up on.

Framerate is a very legitimate thing to argue about when it's slow to the point of being distracting and detrimental to the product. We're not meticulously counting every frame of each second; the frames are so few in number we can literally see them. That's not a good sign.

As for the story 'just starting', the series is about halfway through.

And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.

But there's only like, 8 episodes. If we're one episode in... there's only two episodes.

Kurona wrote:

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:And I think the point of a lot of peoples' complaints here is that they sat down, watched, and expected to be entertained... but weren't.

Given we're only 25ish minutes in of what is essentially a new series ... it's really only been one full first episode.

People set their expectations too high.

But there's only like, 8 episodes. If we're one episode in... there's only two episodes.

Nothing wrong with your maths skills then.

Fellow Seibertronians, in the wake of the release of Combiner Wars Episode 4 just yesterday; Machinima's Youtube Channel has put out a promotional Top Ten Combiner Wars characters video, as can be viewed below.



Most notable about this is that due to not actually having ten characters yet to make a full top ten list out of, the list includes Devastator and Victorion; hence giving us never-before-seen clips of future episodes, including Victorion landing on a structure and Devastator facing off against Megatron. Take a look and tell us what you think!

I really enjoyed Megatron's snarky attitude. I didn't even mind the voice. It seemed like a fusion of Frank Welker and Steve Blum.

Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

Kurona wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.

Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this

No one cringd at this top 10 list

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/

Bronzewolf wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

It's also very confused on continuity. Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1, yet the guys here give the G1 Cartoon backstory.

When do they say he was created by the council in episode 1? They mention he was loyal to them in later episodes, but I wasn't aware they said he was created by them.

Must have remembered wrong... in any case, it seems the intention is that they were created by the council, hence why they'd be loyal in the first place and why Menasor would know.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Computron was shown to be created by the council in Episode 1

I didnt catch that.

Bronzewolf wrote:Oof that was just a cringe-fest, wasn't it?

Top Ten lists like this usually are...

I take personal offense to this

No one cringd at this top 10 list

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... des/34952/

Hey now... I said like this. Your top ten lists are great

This... This top-ten characters video is a complete and utter joke! There are literally only eleven characters in this who have any dialogue, and of those eleven, four of them (all the female ones, sadly) are newer ones whom the average G1 Joe wouldn't know of offhand due to their having been made in recent years. And of those four, of course the Mistress of Flame gets omitted for her not being a fighter in this (being a boring politician instead) and having no actual name (just a title), while Windblade's being the central protagonist requires her inclusion, and Victorion's being a more-special-than-special Combiner also requires her own inclusion, which leaves Maxima to be included by mere process of elimination and the need to round out the total to ten. Thus, this video is less of an actual "top-ten" and more of "these seven 1980s G1 characters in the order we remember them from least to most, plus three of the four new girls tossed in for marketing and numbering reasons."

Also, boo to putting Optimus at the #1 spot. For once, Megatron totally deserved that spot.

And they talked about Megatron turning into a gun in this video when mere moments later they show footage from episode 4 of him turning into a tank! Ugh.

Now I know what to do next time Sabr ticks me off, I'll just send him that video in a PM.

He's been nice to me so far though, so I might never get the chance