Listing for IDW Transformers: Lost Light Volume 4, Nick Roche / Josh Burcham Issue 20 Cover Revealed

Fully back on board this train as it reaches its final destination.

Shock me, Jimbo!

PS I don't think Hound's legs make much sense in that cover art.

It's funny how green legs turn purple and orange in a certain light.

All the Autobots here are facing left, so another bunch of characters on another cover could be facing right. Who will they be? My money's on the weather presenters of Oklahoma TV!

Let's all remember the one good thing about these books.




They're ENDING SOON!!!!!

YAY!!!!

snavej wrote:It's funny how green legs turn purple and orange in a certain light.

All the Autobots here are facing left, so another bunch of characters on another cover could be facing right. Who will they be? My money's on the weather presenters of Oklahoma TV!

A suggestion was made...

Anyone in the middle or is it going to be a Mexican standoff?

Okay so after taking a few weeks away from regular posting and purging myself of my negative vibes and outlook, it's time for me to catch up on LL. I stopped reading after Defensor got taken out. Has the story picked up the pace since then? Have some questions been answered?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Okay so after taking a few weeks away from regular posting and purging myself of my negative vibes and outlook, it's time for me to catch up on LL. I stopped reading after Defensor got taken out. Has the story picked up the pace since then? Have some questions been answered?

The pace has picked up, yeah. Disparare pieces are starting to be drawn together in real ways.

I think it's on the cusp of some real answers starting in 18, which should have been out soon if not already but has been IDW'd out to mid-June

ZeroWolf wrote:Anyone in the middle or is it going to be a Mexican standoff?

I think that there will be someone or even something in the middle because part of Ultra Magnus' left arm goes off the page on the 2nd cover and doesn't appear on the 1st cover. Therefore: 3rd cover soon!

snavej wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Anyone in the middle or is it going to be a Mexican standoff?

I think that there will be someone or even something in the middle because part of Ultra Magnus' left arm goes off the page on the 2nd cover and doesn't appear on the 1st cover. Therefore: 3rd cover soon!

I think anticipating plot points/story moments based on covers is a great way to make yourself disappointed later. Remember how Getaway punched Thunderclash off the ship Ozymandias-style?


Me neither

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AVFireblade9472 wrote:So, what do you all think is gonna happen in LL 18?

The grand Architect will show up , snap his fingers, and then Krok, Crankcase, Fulcrum, Misfire, Swerve, Rewind, Rung, Nautica, Nightbeat, Velocity, Whirl, and Roller will all die by turning to rust

So like in IW all the awesome characters

Sorry for the double post, but finished book 5 of MTMTE the other day. Started book 6 but I think I missed something, is this where that dark cybertron story takes place? Someone mentioned it a while back.

But anyways book 5 was a fun read. Some random thoughts.

Book starts with Tailgate finding out he has cybercrosis, pretty fascinating and a bit unexpected to see the topic of dying from old age feature in a transformers comic of all places. Kind of neat that whirl comes up with the solution at the end.

The Luna One and Tyrest plot was kind of bizarre but filled with lots of great moments, good humor, and some twists I certainly didn’t see coming. The ambus is Ultra Magnus, say what? Rung figures it out though. Also Rung has energon sticks. lol

And Tyrest and Pharma, I’m not sure who is more insane. I’m glad they both got what was coming to them.

Star Saber is nuts too.

Whirl and Cyclonus had some good scenes, both action and some sort of understanding to make peace I guess.

And the book finishes with a story called Little Victories a film by Rewind. And now I miss Rewind, I hope he’s back soon.

Yeah dark cybertron takes place in between 5 and 6, it's a good read and helps with the setup for what's going on in the optimus prime series and for what's to come in unicron.

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah dark cybertron takes place in between 5 and 6, it's a good read and helps with the setup for what's going on in the optimus prime series and for what's to come in unicron.

And as ScottyP has said in recent podcast episodes: it's aged really well compared to when it first came out. Definitely give it a try!

ScottyP wrote:

snavej wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Anyone in the middle or is it going to be a Mexican standoff?

I think that there will be someone or even something in the middle because part of Ultra Magnus' left arm goes off the page on the 2nd cover and doesn't appear on the 1st cover. Therefore: 3rd cover soon!

I think anticipating plot points/story moments based on covers is a great way to make yourself disappointed later. Remember how Getaway punched Thunderclash off the ship Ozymandias-style?


Me neither

Doesn't matter to me either way. I gave up on extra covers a while ago.

Ok, thanks folks. I’ll check out Dark cybertron before I continue with book 6.

Also thanks to online retailer Amazon.com and another IDW Publishing comics listing, we have a date for the release of the last collected trade paperback for the ongoing (and soon ending) comics series Transformers: Lost Light.

Collecting issues 19-25, volume 4 will feature the final arc of the series - which may or may not directly tie into the Unicron event as parallel series Optimus Prime will do - and is due for release in February 2019, which means trade readers will have until then to catch up on the end of the universe. Find out more below!

The adventures of Rodimus and the crew of the Lost Light come to a close in this action-packed thriller!

Years ago, the crew of the Lost Light fought a demonic Cybertronian mutant that fed on its victims' souls. Now, Rodimus and Co. are about to discover that the only thing worse than a sparkeater... is an army of sparkeaters! Plus, something is coming. It cannot be stalled. It cannot be avoided. It cannot be reasoned with. As the end of everything draws near, a simple instruction rings out across the universe: prepare, confront, repel. Collects issues #19-25.

Series: Transformers (Book 4)
Paperback: 160 pages
Publisher: IDW Publishing (February 12, 2019)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1684054109
ISBN-13: 978-1684054107
Product Dimensions: 6.6 x 10.2 inches

Courtesy of iTunes and their regular early looks at IDW Publishing comics, we have a three-page preview for the next issue of Transformers: Lost Light, due - if schedules hold - next week! Take a look at the images mirrored below, as we join Rodimus and the rest of the cast in the Afterspark. Or not.

LIGHTS OUT! The “Everlasting Voices” trilogy concludes with an explosion of hope, a grave betrayal... and more answers than you can handle! Events of the last six years build to a frenzy of revelations, casting everything that’s gone before in a new—and deadly—light. No exaggeration, no hyperbole: there has never been a more important issue of Lost Light.

Always appreciate a Fastball Special .. Still not keen on the colour scheme of Rodimus though. I'm sure there are in-story reasons (and by "coincidence", a new toy) but it's just not him. He was always a character that visually popped, black and purple are far too generic within Transformers.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Always appreciate a Fastball Special .. Still not keen on the colour scheme of Rodimus though. I'm sure there are in-story reasons (and by "coincidence", a new toy) but it's just not him. He was always a character that visually popped, black and purple are far too generic within Transformers.

Drift painted him this way to express grief for a fallen friend (Skids) and a promise to kill someone (Getaway).

Nothing at all to do with the promotion an upcoming toyline. Nope, nothing to see here. (/sarcasm)

Actually the only rodimus I've seen in those colours is a third party toy, rodimus unicronus is a different deco that pays far more homage to shattered glass rodimus

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Always appreciate a Fastball Special .. Still not keen on the colour scheme of Rodimus though. I'm sure there are in-story reasons (and by "coincidence", a new toy) but it's just not him. He was always a character that visually popped, black and purple are far too generic within Transformers.

Nobodies forcing you to ignore the past 30+ years of him being red orange and yellow. It’s one continuity and there is no official toy with that deco.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually the only rodimus I've seen in those colours is a third party toy, rodimus unicronus is a different deco that pays far more homage to shattered glass rodimus

Agreed. Although both IDW Rodimus and PotP Rodimus have a lot of black and purple, the decos aren't very similar. IDW Rodimus is primarily purple and blue with some black or dark grey highlights. PotP Rodimus takes after the character's Shattered Glass incarnation, and is mostly black and purple with some light grey highlights.

And then there's the Lemmy mustache...

AlphaBass wrote:Drift painted him this way to express grief for a fallen friend (Skids) and a promise to kill someone (Getaway).

Nothing at all to do with the promotion an upcoming toyline. Nope, nothing to see here. (/sarcasm)

Bless your heart, sarcasm only makes you look smart when you're right. Allow me to help.

The inspiration for the toy you didn't name but were alluding to, Rodimus Unicronus, is Shattered Glass Hot Rod as pointed out by many already. He looks like this:


Transformers Convention & Club Exclusives Rodimus Gallery

There is an unofficial toy of this version of Hot Rod. It looks like this:


The same third party made a Lost Light Rodimus. It's an entirely different color scheme:


They're even making an updated version to change the colors to make yet another different version that is, like the first, also not intended to evoke Shattered Glass Hot Rod. That's because they're different things entirely.

Furthermore, the initial look at this dark blue/light blue with purple accents coloration was in July of 2016, so the narrative behind it was likely thought through some time before. While it would have been likely that Hasbro was in initial stages of design work on Leader Rodimus Prime, it's unlikely that redecos had come up by that point.

Is Rodimus' look a possible homage to repaints in general? Very possibly, yes. Was it done to promote a toy that would launch almost two years after the recolor's inception? No, this is implausible and irrational.

Maybe this was overkill, but it struck a nerve. I may have misread your post's tone and you may not have intended for it to be a criticism of the story. If so, my apologies. If it was critical, I'd just say that y'all (the collective in this case and not anyone in particular) are free to not like the book but I'm getting sick of bad hot takes about why you don't.

Don't get disheartened scotty, it's not like their words can actually destroy the legacy of idw continuity.

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Always appreciate a Fastball Special .. Still not keen on the colour scheme of Rodimus though. I'm sure there are in-story reasons (and by "coincidence", a new toy) but it's just not him. He was always a character that visually popped, black and purple are far too generic within Transformers.

Nobodies forcing you to ignore the past 30+ years of him being red orange and yellow. It’s one continuity and there is no official toy with that deco.

I'm neither being forced into anything, nor complaining. I simply said I wasn't keen on the colour scheme. Purple, Black, Blue are very predominant colours within Transformers. There is even one of the new characters in LL (name escapes me) that more or less shares the same palette, to the extent they can be visually confused.
The "leader" should usually be visually distinct within most fiction. Whether he is G1 Red/Yellow/Magenta et al in that respect is neither here nor there.

ZeroWolf wrote:Don't get disheartened scotty, it's not like their words can actually destroy the legacy of idw continuity.

Well said! I'm just, phew, my tolerance for BS went out the window at some point this week. This is why Burn, RP, and Cobotron do the modding and I just manage the database and such

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Always appreciate a Fastball Special .. Still not keen on the colour scheme of Rodimus though. I'm sure there are in-story reasons (and by "coincidence", a new toy) but it's just not him. He was always a character that visually popped, black and purple are far too generic within Transformers.

Nobodies forcing you to ignore the past 30+ years of him being red orange and yellow. It’s one continuity and there is no official toy with that deco.

I'm neither being forced into anything, nor complaining. I simply said I wasn't keen on the colour scheme. Purple, Black, Blue are very predominant colours within Transformers. There is even one of the new characters in LL (name escapes me) that more or less shares the same palette, to the extent they can be visually confused.
The "leader" should usually be visually distinct within most fiction. Whether he is G1 Red/Yellow/Magenta et al in that respect is neither here nor there.

See, this is a well thought out objection!

I don't agree with it, but it's worth a think and that's rad

Anyway I think it's meant to be another device in the story made to show that while Rodimus has a great deal of potential as a leader, he still has a long way to go. Whenever Magnus is in the same room, even outside of the armor he feels like the de facto leader casting a shadow on Rodimus. It wouldn't surprise me to see a return to his red/yellow closer to the end as a tipping point of some part of his arc.

ScottyP wrote:

AlphaBass wrote:Drift painted him this way to express grief for a fallen friend (Skids) and a promise to kill someone (Getaway).

Nothing at all to do with the promotion an upcoming toyline. Nope, nothing to see here. (/sarcasm)

Bless your heart, sarcasm only makes you look smart when you're right. Allow me to help.

This makes you look like a condescending prick.

misfire19d wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

AlphaBass wrote:Drift painted him this way to express grief for a fallen friend (Skids) and a promise to kill someone (Getaway).

Nothing at all to do with the promotion an upcoming toyline. Nope, nothing to see here. (/sarcasm)

Bless your heart, sarcasm only makes you look smart when you're right. Allow me to help.

This makes you look like a condescending prick.

Not necessary. I agree that it was a condescending comment, but it was directed at AlphaBass. If AlphaBass has a problem with it, they can work it out between them. And if you absolutely feel the need to let Scotty know how you feel, either do it without name-calling, or do it in a PM.

Let us not resort to name calling, please. Thanks much for the defense, but I don't want to start any (more) wars on here

Scotty - my point was more business related, in how toylines can sometimes dictate the direction of a story. My flippant comment was more for that
, but I should have made it more clear, and while Rodimus isn't the best example, I will take my re-education of Lauren Hillimus Prime gladly.

As far as LL's story, which seems to touch a nerve on here, I don't feel the same zeal since Dying of the Light. My post wasn't intended to be directly critical of the story, but I will admit to not being a fan of it. Can I believe that Roddy, ever the hotheaded irrational leader would change his color scheme so drastically? It fits with his character, certainly. But it seemed over the top, even for him (to me at least). And I'd been waiting for that one moment to draw me back in, (like Prime's return in DC, which made me go back and read the Shadowplay trilogy, or Megatron's return in DOTL), and stuff like focusing on a handful of the crew (Anode is as likable as a hammer to the face) and the Protectobots taking (seemingly) an L pushed me further away. Or Getaway's transformation after witnessing the horrors of slaughterhouse. JMO.

I know some don't share the same opinion, and that's great. It's what makes these discussions interesting. Just feel like LL is missing something.

We have two new pieces of cover art from IDW Publishing's comic series Transformers: Lost Light to share with you all, thanks to Previews World and their updated listings. For issue #20 (-5 to the end), Jack Lawrence (and unnamed colourist - Come ON) takes on both a regular variant and the retailer incentive covers, and we get to see not one, but two rematches between some of the most passionately thought about characters in the series so far: Rodimus vs Getaway, and Cyclonus vs Star Saber.

Take a look, read the solicit, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub.

(W) James Roberts (A) Casey Coller (CA) Jack Lawrence
Rodimus vs. Getaway! Finally!
In Shops: Jul 11, 2018

In other Transformers: Lost Light news today, we have directly from IDW Publishing the full preview for this week's issue of the ongoing series, as we enter the final chapter in the Everlasting Voices story arc - ready to dive into its final story arc with the next issue, as the world ends.

Take a look at the opening pages below, and head back to Seibertron.com after its release for our regular comics review and discussion. It's bound to be a long, big one, too. Trust us.

Transformers: Lost Light #18
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a)
LIGHTS OUT! The “Everlasting Voices” trilogy concludes with an explosion of hope, a grave betrayal… and more answers than you can handle! Events of the last six years build to a frenzy of revelations, casting everything that’s gone before in a new—and deadly—light. No exaggeration, no hyperbole: there has never been a more important issue of Lost Light.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Leads directly into the biggest story in the history of the Lost Light!
Cover A: Jack Lawrence
Cover B: Alex Milne
Cover RI: Alex Milne Black & White

huh, I wasn't notified about this. Looking forward to the end of this arc and then the finale.

The newly released cover images finally made it click in my head that the issue with Rodimus vs Getaway and (hopefully) Cyclonus vs Star Saber round 2, yes this issue, is being done by Casey Coller.

I like 95% of IDW's artists a lot, they do a great job. Coller may be on the top of the heap for me, easily up there with Milne as someone I know isn't going to disappoint. Can't wait to see his version of Star Saber!

O love Nautica. I love her as much as I love the ways Lost Light finds rediculous things to say in context But god is she terrifying sometimes. Primus help anyone if dhe decided to go Evil.

And they were just talkimg about laser fingers on the Podcast too...

There's no time for her to go evil now

ZeroWolf wrote:There's no time for her to go evil now

Not saying she even smwould, just saying she managed to bluff a half dozen (admittedly stupid) Decepticons with the old finger gun trick. What could she do if she really wanted to?

Become the true emperor of destruction...I mean...empress of destruction. I do hope all these new characters appear in the new continuity

Wingblade, given the unnatural push HasTak is making to push her into all media, is practically a certainty in the new continuity. I doubt any other new character, other than Drift maybe, will survive the leap.

Don't be too sure, nautica got a toy afterall.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wingblade, given the unnatural push HasTak is making to push her into all media, is practically a certainty in the new continuity. I doubt any other new character, other than Drift maybe, will survive the leap.

Oh BS. If it’s a popular character they’ll return. It’s a new continuity of G1 and that roster just grows and grows thanks to IDW and new toys coming out. Characters like Xaaron, rack and ruin, Impactor all made their transition from the UK made their way into the current ara of transformers and characters like Nautica, Rung, Tarn, Roller, Tappet, Turmoil and Mistress of Flame will make their way too.

Not right away but eventually the fan favorite characters IDW created will show up.

This new continuity will be two things:

Radically different or a soft reboot to G1 with the 84 toyline being the focus like everything these days. Crash landing on earth, a small group of humans discovering them and making friends and fighting the Decepticons who are evil because they’re written to be evil.

It’s the thing now. Reboot it to the status quo because it’s safe

Actually it happened with DW as well as characters like the Fallen, who jumped into other media.

If they have a toy, they have a better chance of survival.

Randomhero wrote: a soft reboot to G1 with the 84 toyline being the focus like everything these days. Crash landing on earth, a small group of humans discovering them and making friends and fighting the Decepticons who are evil because they’re written to be evil.

Addressing the Elephant in the room, but when has this actually happened, post-1984???

Dream Wave, perhaps? Outside of that, which I haven't read so wouldn't know, No cartoon or comic I've seen has ever reused the 1984 framework. IDW certainly didn't, nor did Beast Wars/Machines and the cartoons that followed them. I see a lot of chatter decrying this as a certainty, but I don't know where the basis for it stems from?

Transformers isn't really in the same boat as say, He-Man. Wherein the 2002 cartoon & toys predominantly relied on appealing to the nostalgia of it's original fanbase. Mattel realised too late, that to exclusively fixate on the old fans is a liability to your future success IE The show and toyline were soon cancelled and other than a single comic, He-Man hasn't been onscreen and/or relevant to pop culture in 15/16 years.

I didn't think the recent DC heman series was that bad. Also didn't Animated start with the bits crash landing on earth, befriending humans and fighting evil cons? And the same with Prime?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If they have a toy, they have a better chance of survival.

Randomhero wrote: a soft reboot to G1 with the 84 toyline being the focus like everything these days. Crash landing on earth, a small group of humans discovering them and making friends and fighting the Decepticons who are evil because they’re written to be evil.

Addressing the Elephant in the room, but when has this actually happened, post-1984???

Dream Wave, perhaps? Outside of that, which I haven't read so wouldn't know, No cartoon or comic I've seen has ever reused the 1984 framework. IDW certainly didn't, nor did Beast Wars/Machines and the cartoons that followed them. I see a lot of chatter decrying this as a certainty, but I don't know where the basis for it stems from?

Transformers isn't really in the same boat as say, He-Man. Wherein the 2002 cartoon & toys predominantly relied on appealing to the nostalgia of it's original fanbase. Mattel realised too late, that to exclusively fixate on the old fans is a liability to your future success IE The show and toyline were soon cancelled and other than a single comic, He-Man hasn't been onscreen and/or relevant to pop culture in 15/16 years.

IDW did do it though. Just last year with retconning hearts of steel. Transformers crashing on earth and fighting. Granted it was all the machinations if shockwave but it’s still happened

Armada did it too. The cartoon and comics had the minicons crash on earth and starting the war there.

Devils due did it too with their Transformers VS G.I. Joe series

And don’t forget about animated. That was the start too. Crashing on earth

Also you should probably go back and watch beast wars. It opens with the maximals and predacons fighting in orbit and crashing on earth lol

Also beast machines revealed they also crashed when they came home

Edit: oh! Don’t forget RID that also dealt with a ship crash landing on earth releasing a bunch of Decepticons

ZeroWolf wrote:I didn't think the recent DC heman series was that bad. Also didn't Animated start with the bits crash landing on earth, befriending humans and fighting evil cons? And the same with Prime?

The DC Helman series was a wonderful mess that I enjoyed until I got so confused by stuff happening I gave up.

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If they have a toy, they have a better chance of survival.

Randomhero wrote: a soft reboot to G1 with the 84 toyline being the focus like everything these days. Crash landing on earth, a small group of humans discovering them and making friends and fighting the Decepticons who are evil because they’re written to be evil.

Addressing the Elephant in the room, but when has this actually happened, post-1984???

Dream Wave, perhaps? Outside of that, which I haven't read so wouldn't know, No cartoon or comic I've seen has ever reused the 1984 framework. IDW certainly didn't, nor did Beast Wars/Machines and the cartoons that followed them. I see a lot of chatter decrying this as a certainty, but I don't know where the basis for it stems from?

Transformers isn't really in the same boat as say, He-Man. Wherein the 2002 cartoon & toys predominantly relied on appealing to the nostalgia of it's original fanbase. Mattel realised too late, that to exclusively fixate on the old fans is a liability to your future success IE The show and toyline were soon cancelled and other than a single comic, He-Man hasn't been onscreen and/or relevant to pop culture in 15/16 years.

IDW did do it though. Just last year with retconning hearts of steel. Transformers crashing on earth and fighting. Granted it was all the machinations if shockwave but it’s still happened

Armada did it too. The cartoon and comics had the minicons crash on earth and starting the war there.

Devils due did it too with their Transformers VS G.I. Joe series

And don’t forget about animated. That was the start too. Crashing on earth

Also you should probably go back and watch beast wars. It opens with the maximals and predacons fighting in orbit and crashing on earth lol

Also beast machines revealed they also crashed when they came home

Edit: oh! Don’t forget RID that also dealt with a ship crash landing on earth releasing a bunch of Decepticons

Moral of this story: Cybertronians are TERRIBLE Pilots.

Flashwave wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If they have a toy, they have a better chance of survival.

Randomhero wrote: a soft reboot to G1 with the 84 toyline being the focus like everything these days. Crash landing on earth, a small group of humans discovering them and making friends and fighting the Decepticons who are evil because they’re written to be evil.

Addressing the Elephant in the room, but when has this actually happened, post-1984???

Dream Wave, perhaps? Outside of that, which I haven't read so wouldn't know, No cartoon or comic I've seen has ever reused the 1984 framework. IDW certainly didn't, nor did Beast Wars/Machines and the cartoons that followed them. I see a lot of chatter decrying this as a certainty, but I don't know where the basis for it stems from?

Transformers isn't really in the same boat as say, He-Man. Wherein the 2002 cartoon & toys predominantly relied on appealing to the nostalgia of it's original fanbase. Mattel realised too late, that to exclusively fixate on the old fans is a liability to your future success IE The show and toyline were soon cancelled and other than a single comic, He-Man hasn't been onscreen and/or relevant to pop culture in 15/16 years.

IDW did do it though. Just last year with retconning hearts of steel. Transformers crashing on earth and fighting. Granted it was all the machinations if shockwave but it’s still happened

Armada did it too. The cartoon and comics had the minicons crash on earth and starting the war there.

Devils due did it too with their Transformers VS G.I. Joe series

And don’t forget about animated. That was the start too. Crashing on earth

Also you should probably go back and watch beast wars. It opens with the maximals and predacons fighting in orbit and crashing on earth lol

Also beast machines revealed they also crashed when they came home

Edit: oh! Don’t forget RID that also dealt with a ship crash landing on earth releasing a bunch of Decepticons

Moral of this story: Cybertronians are TERRIBLE Pilots.

Movies too! The ark crashed on the moon in dark of the moon!

And megatron crashed on earth in the first movie. Only series where I think no one crashed was the first rid and prime.

ZeroWolf wrote:And megatron crashed on earth in the first movie. Only series where I think no one crashed was the first rid and prime.

Scourges commando crew in RID I think and Wheeljack in prime. Though those arnt things that kicked off the series as a theme